Reporting Someone For Residency Fraud- FCPS

[Anonymous]

Our school principal in FCPS let a teacher use a friend’s address to enroll her kid, even though the teacher and kid lived in Woodbridge. One of several unethical things this principal did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know why you need two factor authentication for everything now? Because of people like this mom.

You know why you have to show up with an armful of documents to enroll your kid? Because of people like this mom.

It is stealing and it is wrong and we all pay for it through the taxes for the school, through the people who have to manage all this paperwork and authentication of documents.

There’s right and there is wrong. This isn’t a Jean Valjean situation. She’s taking advantage. It disgusts me how many people don’t care. Letting everything go is how you end up with a crap, every man for himself society.

Turn her in OP.

I suspect that many who ars saying mind your own business are also committing residency fraud.

It is pretty wide spread at our high school, and is contributing to it getting rezoned.

Well I’m not. We live in a desirable MCPS school cluster, and are currently in a huge boundary study that affects half of Montgomery County… and I would never report any child. I don’t want that on my conscience, no matter what the parent has done in the workplace.

Find another punishment that better fits the crime.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCPS likely will not care. I would still report her. She will find out it is you though, as you will be brought to court to testify.

If I'm being honest, when I taught at a school with lots of out of district students, admin looked more closely at the residency of troublemaking kids. If they were not a problem, people turned the other way. I'm good with that. They're just trying to get a good education.

Especially if they have an IEP and they are pulling resources from the school.

But this is happening everywhere. The attendance office in FCPS can’t possibly investigate them all and would need 20 more people to make a dent in it.

No. It is not that hard to check their documentation if it is red flagged by someone.

Teachers may also suggest that a student might need to be checked.

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I am a teacher and I’ve had kids investigated and it takes months to investigate and prove and eventually send them a letter that they are removed from FCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCPS likely will not care. I would still report her. She will find out it is you though, as you will be brought to court to testify.

If I'm being honest, when I taught at a school with lots of out of district students, admin looked more closely at the residency of troublemaking kids. If they were not a problem, people turned the other way. I'm good with that. They're just trying to get a good education.

If they are maryland or DC residdnts, they are not paying a dime into taxes to your school.

They are part of the reason why you have 35 student classes in your high school, and not enough money in the budget to pay you teachers a fair wage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know why you need two factor authentication for everything now? Because of people like this mom.

You know why you have to show up with an armful of documents to enroll your kid? Because of people like this mom.

It is stealing and it is wrong and we all pay for it through the taxes for the school, through the people who have to manage all this paperwork and authentication of documents.

There’s right and there is wrong. This isn’t a Jean Valjean situation. She’s taking advantage. It disgusts me how many people don’t care. Letting everything go is how you end up with a crap, every man for himself society.

Turn her in OP.

I suspect that many who ars saying mind your own business are also committing residency fraud.

It is pretty wide spread at our high school, and is contributing to it getting rezoned.

I agree; residency fraud is likely more widespread than believed.

A couple of years ago, a friend who was renting her house went to register her child for kindergarten and the school secretary asked, "how do you know "the Smiths" because their child goes here and they live at your address." She found out her landlord was using her address to send her children (or maybe grandchildren) to our elementary school. While trick-or-treating one year, an older neighbor a street over told us he only lives in our neighborhood so he can send his grandkids to our school pyramid. We're one of the HS that will likely be rezoned. They need to do residency checks before rezoing.

That sounds like West Springfield High School.

There are likely dozens of students falsifying residency to attend WSHS. I would go out on a limb to say that if WSHS checked and enforced residency, they could open up enough spots to close the Rolling Valley split feeder without rezoning Hunt Valley into a split feeder.

It is a very open secret and no one wants to tattle on people because they feel guilty about making kids change schools, even though the end result is going to be their own kids being forced to change schools from the pyramid they purchased their home in.

A full residency check should be required of any school being considered for rezoning, as step one of the rezoning process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCPS likely will not care. I would still report her. She will find out it is you though, as you will be brought to court to testify.

If I'm being honest, when I taught at a school with lots of out of district students, admin looked more closely at the residency of troublemaking kids. If they were not a problem, people turned the other way. I'm good with that. They're just trying to get a good education.

Especially if they have an IEP and they are pulling resources from the school.

But this is happening everywhere. The attendance office in FCPS can’t possibly investigate them all and would need 20 more people to make a dent in it.

Residency fraud is a hot button issue, and enforcing residency is very popular. They could field a volunteer group in the hundreds to help with this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Turn her in. Whether or not you like her is irrelevant. I wish people would be more vigilant about this. Classes are hugely overcrowded and it's not Fairfax residents' responsibility to provide education for kids who live out of district unless there's some kind of approved alternate placement. If someone wants their kids to attend FCPS they need to move to Fairfax or pay the tuition.
That said, FCPS won't do anything about it. Reid has made it clear she doesn't care about residency fraud.

I agree she should be turned in for breaking the rules, but I’m not sure how it would help with this. If a school loses 30 students for any reason, they lose a staffing position and a teacher gets destaffed, they don’t just get smaller classes.

When the classes are hitting 35+ students at the high school, they would not lose teachers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know why you need two factor authentication for everything now? Because of people like this mom.

You know why you have to show up with an armful of documents to enroll your kid? Because of people like this mom.

It is stealing and it is wrong and we all pay for it through the taxes for the school, through the people who have to manage all this paperwork and authentication of documents.

There’s right and there is wrong. This isn’t a Jean Valjean situation. She’s taking advantage. It disgusts me how many people don’t care. Letting everything go is how you end up with a crap, every man for himself society.

Turn her in OP.

I suspect that many who ars saying mind your own business are also committing residency fraud.

It is pretty wide spread at our high school, and is contributing to it getting rezoned.

Well I’m not. We live in a desirable MCPS school cluster, and are currently in a huge boundary study that affects half of Montgomery County… and I would never report any child. I don’t want that on my conscience, no matter what the parent has done in the workplace.

Find another punishment that better fits the crime.

If you are MCPS in MARYLAND, you are not a Virginia resident or a Fairfax County residdnt, or someone who pays a dime in state or local taxes to support our schools

You have no voice in this topic and should not be contributing to this thread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow. This is more wide spread than I thought. Two random moms told me this year that they live far outside of FcpS but still bring their kids in. There is a lot of fraud. Where do you turn it in?

What address do they use to do it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's a 500 page thread here about rezoning, which FCPS is pursuing in part because some schools are overcrowded. It's probably hard to know this with certainty, but it seems quite likely some of that overcrowding in some places is due to residency fraud.

Absolutely this should be reported. Non-residents taking up space in schools paid for by county residents directly harms FCPS students by contributing to overcrowding.

There are actually two 500 page threads in the rezoning, from just the past few months.

The moderator closed the first thread when it hit 500 pages.

The 2nd 500 page thread will be closed soon, and another 3rd rezoning thread started, which will also hit 500 pages in a few weeks or months.

Rezoning and the impact that residency fraud has on schools facing rezoning is a VERY hot button topic in FCPS.

[Anonymous]

If a school nurse or secretary works for the school but lives far out in Manassas, are they allowed to use FcPS schools since they are a worker?

[Anonymous]

So a family will rent or live in McLean and get their kid established in the school district, then they eventually move out beyond Fairfax County but don’t report the move. They just keep driving the kid in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If a school nurse or secretary works for the school but lives far out in Manassas, are they allowed to use FcPS schools since they are a worker?

Yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So a family will rent or live in McLean and get their kid established in the school district, then they eventually move out beyond Fairfax County but don’t report the move. They just keep driving the kid in.

This is how it happens

[Anonymous]

It needs to be reported. If the school or district fails to address it, they should be exposed. There are some people who pay the out of county tuition. Let’s celebrate the honest citizens and not enable the thieves.