"They bought those presents with the child support I pay, so . . .

[Anonymous]

Stop trying to make divorced make sense.

[Anonymous]

This seems like something Kevin Costner, Nick Cannon, or Elon Musk would say to one of his various children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Say whatever makes the kid feel loved by both parents. Ie: Mom/dad and I worked together to make sure you have the best possible Christmas!

This. Set aside the absurdity of what your ex is telling the kids and try to make this about making them feel loved by both of their parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This seems like something Kevin Costner, Nick Cannon, or Elon Musk would say to one of his various children.

Or Britney spears. I legit celebrated the end of her child support obligations.

I knew her kids would start talking to her again. Their dad is a talentless lazy leach.

Halle Berry can also say this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:really they're from me."

How do you respond to this?

You don’t

[Anonymous]

Child support is for the essential needs of the child (food, shelter, clothing, health insurance coverage, work-related childcare if applicable, some educational fees, etc - it's all noted on the damn child support calculator form) and does NOT include things like Christmas presents, full stop. Your ex is an absolute jacka$$.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Child support is for the essential needs of the child (food, shelter, clothing, health insurance coverage, work-related childcare if applicable, some educational fees, etc - it's all noted on the damn child support calculator form) and does NOT include things like Christmas presents, full stop. Your ex is an absolute jacka$$.

Kevin Costner pays $63,209 per month in child support.

"Essential needs" my butt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Child support is for the essential needs of the child (food, shelter, clothing, health insurance coverage, work-related childcare if applicable, some educational fees, etc - it's all noted on the damn child support calculator form) and does NOT include things like Christmas presents, full stop. Your ex is an absolute jacka$$.

Kevin Costner pays $63,209 per month in child support.

"Essential needs" my butt.

I guess you are incapable of using your brain, PP? Sure, let's use a filthy rich celebrity as an example. Child support is calculated based on the amount of overnights the child spends with each parent, **each parent's income**, and the costs of the essential needs of the child. For a child of extremely wealthy parents - yes, the cost of shelter is significantly more expensive, for example. So is food and clothing. Come on, now. You can be butthurt that the essential needs of a child whose parents are wildly rich are a lot higher than the average person, but that's the reality.
And this example does not apply to the *vast majority* of average divorced parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Child support is for the essential needs of the child (food, shelter, clothing, health insurance coverage, work-related childcare if applicable, some educational fees, etc - it's all noted on the damn child support calculator form) and does NOT include things like Christmas presents, full stop. Your ex is an absolute jacka$$.

Kevin Costner pays $63,209 per month in child support.

"Essential needs" my butt.

I guess you are incapable of using your brain, PP? Sure, let's use a filthy rich celebrity as an example. Child support is calculated based on the amount of overnights the child spends with each parent, **each parent's income**, and the costs of the essential needs of the child. For a child of extremely wealthy parents - yes, the cost of shelter is significantly more expensive, for example. So is food and clothing. Come on, now. You can be butthurt that the essential needs of a child whose parents are wildly rich are a lot higher than the average person, but that's the reality.
And this example does not apply to the *vast majority* of average divorced parents.

OP: This does not apply to the kid in question but I am having trouble understanding how Kevin Costner’s kids NEED different clothing or food than mine or this kid.

I can maybe understand that in the case where a custody agreement means that kids need to be close to both parents and one parent lives in a very expensive neighborhood the kids might need to live close so their housing might need to be higher.

However, I would also argue that if Costner told his kids this instead of sending someone to the store to buy some presents he could put his own name on, he would be the AH.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Child support is for the essential needs of the child (food, shelter, clothing, health insurance coverage, work-related childcare if applicable, some educational fees, etc - it's all noted on the damn child support calculator form) and does NOT include things like Christmas presents, full stop. Your ex is an absolute jacka$$.

Kevin Costner pays $63,209 per month in child support.

"Essential needs" my butt.

I guess you are incapable of using your brain, PP? Sure, let's use a filthy rich celebrity as an example. Child support is calculated based on the amount of overnights the child spends with each parent, **each parent's income**, and the costs of the essential needs of the child. For a child of extremely wealthy parents - yes, the cost of shelter is significantly more expensive, for example. So is food and clothing. Come on, now. You can be butthurt that the essential needs of a child whose parents are wildly rich are a lot higher than the average person, but that's the reality.
And this example does not apply to the *vast majority* of average divorced parents.

OP: This does not apply to the kid in question but I am having trouble understanding how Kevin Costner’s kids NEED different clothing or food than mine or this kid.

I can maybe understand that in the case where a custody agreement means that kids need to be close to both parents and one parent lives in a very expensive neighborhood the kids might need to live close so their housing might need to be higher.

However, I would also argue that if Costner told his kids this instead of sending someone to the store to buy some presents he could put his own name on, he would be the AH.

Costner has a staff to do those things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Child support is for the essential needs of the child (food, shelter, clothing, health insurance coverage, work-related childcare if applicable, some educational fees, etc - it's all noted on the damn child support calculator form) and does NOT include things like Christmas presents, full stop. Your ex is an absolute jacka$$.

Child support includes everything including presents. It is his portion of the expenses I. Your home. Stop pretending Itis your income when it’s not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Child support is for the essential needs of the child (food, shelter, clothing, health insurance coverage, work-related childcare if applicable, some educational fees, etc - it's all noted on the damn child support calculator form) and does NOT include things like Christmas presents, full stop. Your ex is an absolute jacka$$.

Child support includes everything including presents. It is his portion of the expenses I. Your home. Stop pretending Itis your income when it’s not.

Lawyer-wrong

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Child support is for the essential needs of the child (food, shelter, clothing, health insurance coverage, work-related childcare if applicable, some educational fees, etc - it's all noted on the damn child support calculator form) and does NOT include things like Christmas presents, full stop. Your ex is an absolute jacka$$.

Kevin Costner pays $63,209 per month in child support.

"Essential needs" my butt.

I guess you are incapable of using your brain, PP? Sure, let's use a filthy rich celebrity as an example. Child support is calculated based on the amount of overnights the child spends with each parent, **each parent's income**, and the costs of the essential needs of the child. For a child of extremely wealthy parents - yes, the cost of shelter is significantly more expensive, for example. So is food and clothing. Come on, now. You can be butthurt that the essential needs of a child whose parents are wildly rich are a lot higher than the average person, but that's the reality.
And this example does not apply to the *vast majority* of average divorced parents.

OP: This does not apply to the kid in question but I am having trouble understanding how Kevin Costner’s kids NEED different clothing or food than mine or this kid.

I can maybe understand that in the case where a custody agreement means that kids need to be close to both parents and one parent lives in a very expensive neighborhood the kids might need to live close so their housing might need to be higher.

However, I would also argue that if Costner told his kids this instead of sending someone to the store to buy some presents he could put his own name on, he would be the AH.

Costner has a staff to do those things.

Hence my “and send someone to the store”. My point is that in the situations mentioned here, the noncustodial parent can still afford to send a present that they picked out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Child support is for the essential needs of the child (food, shelter, clothing, health insurance coverage, work-related childcare if applicable, some educational fees, etc - it's all noted on the damn child support calculator form) and does NOT include things like Christmas presents, full stop. Your ex is an absolute jacka$$.

Kevin Costner pays $63,209 per month in child support.

"Essential needs" my butt.

I guess you are incapable of using your brain, PP? Sure, let's use a filthy rich celebrity as an example. Child support is calculated based on the amount of overnights the child spends with each parent, **each parent's income**, and the costs of the essential needs of the child. For a child of extremely wealthy parents - yes, the cost of shelter is significantly more expensive, for example. So is food and clothing. Come on, now. You can be butthurt that the essential needs of a child whose parents are wildly rich are a lot higher than the average person, but that's the reality.
And this example does not apply to the *vast majority* of average divorced parents.

OP: This does not apply to the kid in question but I am having trouble understanding how Kevin Costner’s kids NEED different clothing or food than mine or this kid.

I can maybe understand that in the case where a custody agreement means that kids need to be close to both parents and one parent lives in a very expensive neighborhood the kids might need to live close so their housing might need to be higher.

However, I would also argue that if Costner told his kids this instead of sending someone to the store to buy some presents he could put his own name on, he would be the AH.

Costner has a staff to do those things.

Hence my “and send someone to the store”. My point is that in the situations mentioned here, the noncustodial parent can still afford to send a present that they picked out.

Not all nap can after child support, alimony and extras.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Child support is for the essential needs of the child (food, shelter, clothing, health insurance coverage, work-related childcare if applicable, some educational fees, etc - it's all noted on the damn child support calculator form) and does NOT include things like Christmas presents, full stop. Your ex is an absolute jacka$$.

Child support includes everything including presents. It is his portion of the expenses I. Your home. Stop pretending Itis your income when it’s not.

Lawyer-wrong

Child support covers all needs from the paying parent. Both parents need to contribute.