Spin Off - Do a Kids’ Parents Political Views Impact You Allowing A Friendship?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We do not encourage friendships with parents who work to support Trump. 1) I would not have felt that way about Romney, McCain, even Bush. Trump is different - he is dangerous. 2) If parents privately support Trump and vote for Trump, that's fine. I can't encourage a friendship with people who are actively working to make our country worse and are dismantling our democracy.

I'm not sure that's the right line to draw, but it's the one that feels fairest to me to the (potentially awesome) kids who unfortunately ended up with parents that are choosing a bad path in voting for Trump. It's not the kids fault, and perhaps exposure to my kids and family will help normalize them.

That seems to be a contradiction.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would imagine my kids' friends' mothers do not know I am a Republican. Why would this ever come up in conversation?

Then your friends aren't black or gay; or if they are we know you're a republican and we're just nice to you but not close.

Also - your kids tell my kids who you vote for.

What on earth? Many African Americans support Trump. Many LGBTQ support Trump. You really do love in a bubble.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If your family supports Trump, our children cannot be friends (at least not outside of school hours). The parents can try to “corner” me, but I will not relent and I will tell them why the relationship is a nonstarter.

This goes beyond supporting a political candidate. If you support Trump, you’re ok with too many things (racism, sexism, rape) that I cannot accept. I will question your judgement and your morality, so I cannot trust my children around you and your children.

This is the liberal way. If you disagree with me, you are my enemy. Racism, sexism, rape, oh my!

To be clear, are you saying that in your opinion people should embrace those who openly tell you they are racist? Sexist? OK with rapists in power? Or do you disagree that these are correct descriptions of Trump?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If your family supports Trump, our children cannot be friends (at least not outside of school hours). The parents can try to “corner” me, but I will not relent and I will tell them why the relationship is a nonstarter.

This goes beyond supporting a political candidate. If you support Trump, you’re ok with too many things (racism, sexism, rape) that I cannot accept. I will question your judgement and your morality, so I cannot trust my children around you and your children.

This is the liberal way. If you disagree with me, you are my enemy. Racism, sexism, rape, oh my!

To be clear, are you saying that in your opinion people should embrace those who openly tell you they are racist? Sexist? OK with rapists in power? Or do you disagree that these are correct descriptions of Trump?

And you don’t think that people can support a presidential candidate for reasons completely unrelated to those things? Like maybe they prefer his substantive policies? Should they vote for someone whose politics are completely different than their own just because some Liberals have tried to brand Trump a sexist and a racist (which he is not)?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If your family supports Trump, our children cannot be friends (at least not outside of school hours). The parents can try to “corner” me, but I will not relent and I will tell them why the relationship is a nonstarter.

This goes beyond supporting a political candidate. If you support Trump, you’re ok with too many things (racism, sexism, rape) that I cannot accept. I will question your judgement and your morality, so I cannot trust my children around you and your children.

This is the liberal way. If you disagree with me, you are my enemy. Racism, sexism, rape, oh my!

To be clear, are you saying that in your opinion people should embrace those who openly tell you they are racist? Sexist? OK with rapists in power? Or do you disagree that these are correct descriptions of Trump?

And you don’t think that people can support a presidential candidate for reasons completely unrelated to those things? Like maybe they prefer his substantive policies? Should they vote for someone whose politics are completely different than their own just because some Liberals have tried to brand Trump a sexist and a racist (which he is not)?

^^By the way, did you vote for Clinton? Because that guy was a real sexual predator.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If your family supports Trump, our children cannot be friends (at least not outside of school hours). The parents can try to “corner” me, but I will not relent and I will tell them why the relationship is a nonstarter.

This goes beyond supporting a political candidate. If you support Trump, you’re ok with too many things (racism, sexism, rape) that I cannot accept. I will question your judgement and your morality, so I cannot trust my children around you and your children.

This is the liberal way. If you disagree with me, you are my enemy. Racism, sexism, rape, oh my!

To be clear, are you saying that in your opinion people should embrace those who openly tell you they are racist? Sexist? OK with rapists in power? Or do you disagree that these are correct descriptions of Trump?

And you don’t think that people can support a presidential candidate for reasons completely unrelated to those things? Like maybe they prefer his substantive policies? Should they vote for someone whose politics are completely different than their own just because some Liberals have tried to brand Trump a sexist and a racist (which he is not)?

I'm asking for clarification of your comment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I normally run a quick LinkedIn check on the parents. Work directly for certain republicans and no. I ignore or tell them no. Work for those I align with. Welcome with open arms. I won’t tolerate my children being influenced by those with narrow views.

Wow! Are you part of the book banning crowd or the Robin Hood crowd? Either way YOU are the problem with polarization in society.

[Anonymous]

We live far away from DC in a mostly politically liberal community outside of Portland. I don’t check parents’ backgrounds unless I have a reason to- like offhanded racist comments from a kid or casually dropping a really uninclusive comment about a school event. And then I Google the crap out of the parents.

A girl was being a real jerk to my kid and her mom kept making weird comments at school pickup. I finally looked up the family and they are a former tobacco lobbyist and a current Republican lobbyist and someone who runs a shady super PAC. No idea how they ended up out here.

it gave me good reason to tell my DD that she didn’t have to work extra hard to have neutral interactions with the mean girl and could just avoid her.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If your family supports Trump, our children cannot be friends (at least not outside of school hours). The parents can try to “corner” me, but I will not relent and I will tell them why the relationship is a nonstarter.

This goes beyond supporting a political candidate. If you support Trump, you’re ok with too many things (racism, sexism, rape) that I cannot accept. I will question your judgement and your morality, so I cannot trust my children around you and your children.

This is the liberal way. If you disagree with me, you are my enemy. Racism, sexism, rape, oh my!

To be clear, are you saying that in your opinion people should embrace those who openly tell you they are racist? Sexist? OK with rapists in power? Or do you disagree that these are correct descriptions of Trump?

And you don’t think that people can support a presidential candidate for reasons completely unrelated to those things? Like maybe they prefer his substantive policies? Should they vote for someone whose politics are completely different than their own just because some Liberals have tried to brand Trump a sexist and a racist (which he is not)?

I'm asking for clarification of your comment.

I’m a DP. But if you want my opinion, the points you raised are not particularly relevant in a presidential election. They weren’t relevant when the Republicans impeached Clinton, and they’re not relevant now. We have bigger problems in this country than the invented ones you are desperately hanging onto. How about you engage on real issues, not woke fantasies.

[Anonymous]

I am comfortable with my children being around Republicans. That's not a problem for me. We have policy differences, but have the same end goal in mind. McCain, Kaisich, Romney, fine. When they ran I wasn't going to vote for them, but they had policy positions I could argue against.

However, that's not who is running that party right now, and I'd be concerned having my kid play with the kids of Trump supporters. The parents are okay with so many things that aren't just a difference of policy. They might not be advocating for racism, sexism, anti-LGBTQ, assault, and just a true dislike of people in general...but they aren't discouraging it either. I don't want that messaging around my kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am comfortable with my children being around Republicans. That's not a problem for me. We have policy differences, but have the same end goal in mind. McCain, Kaisich, Romney, fine. When they ran I wasn't going to vote for them, but they had policy positions I could argue against.

However, that's not who is running that party right now, and I'd be concerned having my kid play with the kids of Trump supporters. The parents are okay with so many things that aren't just a difference of policy. They might not be advocating for racism, sexism, anti-LGBTQ, assault, and just a true dislike of people in general...but they aren't discouraging it either. I don't want that messaging around my kids.

You are intolerant.

[Anonymous]

This thread is why many in our country are registered as closet Democrats but vote Republican.

[Anonymous]

The intolerance in this thread particularly when it comes to young children is unbelievable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If your family supports Trump, our children cannot be friends (at least not outside of school hours). The parents can try to “corner” me, but I will not relent and I will tell them why the relationship is a nonstarter.

This goes beyond supporting a political candidate. If you support Trump, you’re ok with too many things (racism, sexism, rape) that I cannot accept. I will question your judgement and your morality, so I cannot trust my children around you and your children.

This is the liberal way. If you disagree with me, you are my enemy. Racism, sexism, rape, oh my!

To be clear, are you saying that in your opinion people should embrace those who openly tell you they are racist? Sexist? OK with rapists in power? Or do you disagree that these are correct descriptions of Trump?

And you don’t think that people can support a presidential candidate for reasons completely unrelated to those things? Like maybe they prefer his substantive policies? Should they vote for someone whose politics are completely different than their own just because some Liberals have tried to brand Trump a sexist and a racist (which he is not)?

I should have noted I'm an NP, only the immediately prior question is mine.

So, I see, you don't believe he committed any of these acts and that none of his policies lean this way eihter. Taht does clarify where you are coming from, and I suppose I just wish you would do better research.

As to your question of me, yes, I do believe people may choose to overlook a person's character and vote for their policies, but I also think there is a definite limit to that for me. Throughout history we have judged candidates both on their policies and on their character. The entire attack on Hilary Clinton was character based, and many voters have said had they known about the affairs they would not have voted for Bill. Throughout history, candidates have withdrawn from races because of questions of moral turpitude and national security risk skeletons on the closet that were revealed. Trump has had so much of this baggage from the start that he was never an appropriate candidate in my opinion, no matter what his policies may have been, and then he proved to me by his behavior in office that I was correct. As it happens, I also disagree with his policies (to the extent he is able to articulate any; mostly they have to be extrapolated from past practices and from what his backers say).

I do believe that the character of the person in office, especially their trustworthiness and sanity, is much more important than the policies they campaign on, because we all know that there is a Congress to deal with, and checks and balances in government, before anyone makes any major policies changes. But a person of poor character, who does not believe in those checks and balances, is dangerous and can do a lot of damage. So yes, when we vote we are, and we must be, taking into account the person, not just the policies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If your family supports Trump, our children cannot be friends (at least not outside of school hours). The parents can try to “corner” me, but I will not relent and I will tell them why the relationship is a nonstarter.

This goes beyond supporting a political candidate. If you support Trump, you’re ok with too many things (racism, sexism, rape) that I cannot accept. I will question your judgement and your morality, so I cannot trust my children around you and your children.

So close minded. Way to raise your kids in a vacuum. Exposure to a diversity of views is good for all of us.

Exposure to homophobia would be damaging to my kid, as a kid of gay parents. I know she's going to see it in the world, and I'm preparing her for that, but I don't need to invite it into my home and I won't apologize for that. Sorry your kid can't have friends b/c you're a bigot.

Homophobia? Give me a break. It’s not 1955 anymore.