Thinking of becoming a vegan

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think there’s one poster here who is recycling old anti-vegan stereotypes and put downs from the 90’s.

Oh look, another insufferable vegan

said another insufferable boomer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have been vegan for 25 years. Its easier now than ever to be vegan. Make sure to take a vitamin b12 supplement - that's the only vitamin that you can't get from a vegan diet.

B12 only comes from animals, at least the kind that is readily absorbed by humans. There is. I such thing as being a healthy vegan. Animal products are essential for human life. You can survive without them, but you cannot thrive.

BS. Good grief, where do I start?

These animals are vegan, actually. B12 is a bacteria and animals get it because they eat bacteria in dirt. We absolutely do not need to eat an animal to get it. Animal products are not essential for human life. In fact animal products are the cause of a lot of human disease, not to mention the poisoning we get when exposed to ecoli or salmonella, to name a few, due to our manufacturing enterprise. Even our vegetables are contaminated with that from meat farming.

Read a book.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know many vegans and they all end up with health issues or struggle with constant illness. They struggled with low energy, lost muscle, or broken bones. You can be a healthy vegetarian and eat vegan 80-90% of the time but if you allow your body some real protein (not fake protein shakes) and B12 from the actual source (not supplements), you will feel so much better.

You want us to get our B12 from dirt? Because that is the source. The animal isn't the source.

[Anonymous]

There's a lot of people here who just don't understand anything about food. We are socially conditioned to eat meat, but that is it only. We are not obligated, nor do we require meat or animal products- and because of that we don't understand that being a vegetarian or vegan is really the healthier way to eat, the most humane, and the most environmentally sound. Period.

[Anonymous]

Go cold turkey on animal products.

Check out The Exam Room podcast, the Diet for a New America and Food Revolution books and docuseries by John and Ocean Robbins (their father/grandfather founded Baskin Robbins), the books and other materials out there by the Esselstyn family and Dr. Neal Barnard, Dr. Joel Fuhrman.

There is so much online for free to help make the change to a plant based lifestyle, and nearly everything you might have heard over your lifetime about eating vegan has now been proven wrong so don’t listen to the experts here telling you it isn’t healthy - it is the single healthiest way of eating available to humans and all the science supports that.

Ditch ultra processed foods - don’t be a fat unhealthy vegan, in other words. Learn to prepare and eat whole plant foods - whole grains, legumes, veggies especially dark leafy greens, fruits especially berries, nuts and seeds. Ditch sugar and also sugar substitutes including stevia - they are bad for gut health. Ditch vegetable and seed oils, stick with extra virgin olive (fruit) oil.

I’ve been making this transition myself and am feeling better than I have in a long time. On the occasions when I have backslid, I feel immediately the negative effect in my body if consuming animal products and sugary foods - as you age you can’t tolerate this stuff as much because it really drives inflammation and damages gut health.

It’s taken some work both mental and learning to cook again because I was raised on a low fiber, low vegetable diet like many Americans and while I could cook well I’ve had to learn a whole new repertoire of meals. But wow vegetables are really fantastic and once your palate readjusts after you ditch processed foods and refined sugars, there is so much flavor and sweetness to be found in fruits and vegetables alike.

We were meant to eat mostly plants, our dentition and gut are designed for it. Yes we can consume animal products, but when they dominate the diet it causes many health issues especially later in life. It’s also terrible for the planet and if you have kids or any younger people in your life that you love, you should at very least cut way back on consumption of animal products.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's a lot of people here who just don't understand anything about food. We are socially conditioned to eat meat, but that is it only. We are not obligated, nor do we require meat or animal products- and because of that we don't understand that being a vegetarian or vegan is really the healthier way to eat, the most humane, and the most environmentally sound. Period.

Lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Go cold turkey on animal products.

Check out The Exam Room podcast, the Diet for a New America and Food Revolution books and docuseries by John and Ocean Robbins (their father/grandfather founded Baskin Robbins), the books and other materials out there by the Esselstyn family and Dr. Neal Barnard, Dr. Joel Fuhrman.

There is so much online for free to help make the change to a plant based lifestyle, and nearly everything you might have heard over your lifetime about eating vegan has now been proven wrong so don’t listen to the experts here telling you it isn’t healthy - it is the single healthiest way of eating available to humans and all the science supports that.

Ditch ultra processed foods - don’t be a fat unhealthy vegan, in other words. Learn to prepare and eat whole plant foods - whole grains, legumes, veggies especially dark leafy greens, fruits especially berries, nuts and seeds. Ditch sugar and also sugar substitutes including stevia - they are bad for gut health. Ditch vegetable and seed oils, stick with extra virgin olive (fruit) oil.

I’ve been making this transition myself and am feeling better than I have in a long time. On the occasions when I have backslid, I feel immediately the negative effect in my body if consuming animal products and sugary foods - as you age you can’t tolerate this stuff as much because it really drives inflammation and damages gut health.

It’s taken some work both mental and learning to cook again because I was raised on a low fiber, low vegetable diet like many Americans and while I could cook well I’ve had to learn a whole new repertoire of meals. But wow vegetables are really fantastic and once your palate readjusts after you ditch processed foods and refined sugars, there is so much flavor and sweetness to be found in fruits and vegetables alike.

We were meant to eat mostly plants, our dentition and gut are designed for it. Yes we can consume animal products, but when they dominate the diet it causes many health issues especially later in life. It’s also terrible for the planet and if you have kids or any younger people in your life that you love, you should at very least cut way back on consumption of animal products.

Animals are bad for the planet. Haha!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Be prepared to lose a lot of muscle

False.

There is a huge contingent of vegan bodybuilders.

You just need to be smart and balance your meals.

Watch the twins study on Netflix. One woman lost 6.5 lbs of muscle in 8 weeks. Even though they tried hard to make you think a vegan lifestyle is superior, it failed miserably

That's because neither of them followed the diet correctly. Which you would know if you actually watched the special.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Be prepared to lose a lot of muscle

False.

There is a huge contingent of vegan bodybuilders.

You just need to be smart and balance your meals.

Watch the twins study on Netflix. One woman lost 6.5 lbs of muscle in 8 weeks. Even though they tried hard to make you think a vegan lifestyle is superior, it failed miserably

That's because neither of them followed the diet correctly. Which you would know if you actually watched the special.

Haha! I am well aware of their excuses. There were a lot of twins they did not feature on the documentary. They picked the best cases to make their point and the vegan diet still looked terrible. They all lost muscle mass except one who basically stayed the same.
They also left processed carbs in the omnivores diet to stack the deck against them. If they would have removed those, the meat eaters would have absolutely destroyed them.

[Anonymous]

Imagine thinking that animals are bad for the planet. Wow!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Imagine thinking that animals are bad for the planet. Wow!

Are you being funny? Because there is not even a glancingly educated person who isn't aware of the impact of factory farming, especially beef, on climate change, waterways, and water usage. I am not a vegan, and you don't have to do anything about it, but don't be deliberately stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Go cold turkey on animal products.

Check out The Exam Room podcast, the Diet for a New America and Food Revolution books and docuseries by John and Ocean Robbins (their father/grandfather founded Baskin Robbins), the books and other materials out there by the Esselstyn family and Dr. Neal Barnard, Dr. Joel Fuhrman.

There is so much online for free to help make the change to a plant based lifestyle, and nearly everything you might have heard over your lifetime about eating vegan has now been proven wrong so don’t listen to the experts here telling you it isn’t healthy - it is the single healthiest way of eating available to humans and all the science supports that.

Ditch ultra processed foods - don’t be a fat unhealthy vegan, in other words. Learn to prepare and eat whole plant foods - whole grains, legumes, veggies especially dark leafy greens, fruits especially berries, nuts and seeds. Ditch sugar and also sugar substitutes including stevia - they are bad for gut health. Ditch vegetable and seed oils, stick with extra virgin olive (fruit) oil.

I’ve been making this transition myself and am feeling better than I have in a long time. On the occasions when I have backslid, I feel immediately the negative effect in my body if consuming animal products and sugary foods - as you age you can’t tolerate this stuff as much because it really drives inflammation and damages gut health.

It’s taken some work both mental and learning to cook again because I was raised on a low fiber, low vegetable diet like many Americans and while I could cook well I’ve had to learn a whole new repertoire of meals. But wow vegetables are really fantastic and once your palate readjusts after you ditch processed foods and refined sugars, there is so much flavor and sweetness to be found in fruits and vegetables alike.

We were meant to eat mostly plants, our dentition and gut are designed for it. Yes we can consume animal products, but when they dominate the diet it causes many health issues especially later in life. It’s also terrible for the planet and if you have kids or any younger people in your life that you love, you should at very least cut way back on consumption of animal products.

Animals are bad for the planet. Haha!

Yes, livestock animals are bad for the planet in the numbers currently being raised and slaughtered yearly.

The total mammalian biomass of Earth is:

36% humans
60% livestock
4% wild animals

Fewer than half as many wild animals as were present when I was born in 1970. Four times as many humans since then, and skyrocketing numbers of livestock raised in the most unhealthy unsustainable ways to feed the human addiction to animal flesh and dairy, which poisons our bodies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Being a vegan is about not wanting to eat animals, not about health and fitness. It is an incredibly unhealthy diet. If you believe eating animals is cruel then go for it, if you are doing it to get healthy, good luck!

If cruelty is the key reason, then you need to be consistent in life. I met vegans who were cruel with other people.

Ok, but are they slaughtering other people? How is this relevant to the topic?

^meant “to other people”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Check out all the YouTube influencers that used to be vegan and then switched to the carnivore diet. While I don't think the carnivore diet is ideal, I think it says something that these people felt so much better when adding meat back to their diet that they decided to switch to only eating meat. Just stick to a balanced diet and try to buy your meat from sustainable and humane sources.

Just because they gave up because they don't get how to do it doesn't mean it's correct. There's a huge keto influencer push, that's all. Heart disease awaits,you just won't see that on IG probably, they"ll lose an audience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Being a vegan is about not wanting to eat animals, not about health and fitness. It is an incredibly unhealthy diet. If you believe eating animals is cruel then go for it, if you are doing it to get healthy, good luck!

If cruelty is the key reason, then you need to be consistent in life. I met vegans who were cruel with other people.

Ok, but are they slaughtering other people? How is this relevant to the topic?

Again, not relevant to topic nor does it make sense

^meant “to other people”