PG County is far safer than DC. It had 118 murders in 2023. DC had 274. And PG County has around 300,000 more people. |
DC crime was really bad in 2023, but we can acknowledge that without misrepresenting the statistics. The number of murders in DC for 2023 was higher than in Baltimore, but the per capita homicide rate was lower. DC is bad, but still not Baltimore-level bad. |
Point taken. The numbers in DC are more in total, but less per capita. But not by much. Also, Baltimore’s murder rate has been trending down over the past several years, while DC’s has almost tripled over the past 10 years. DC Murders - 103 in 2013, 160 in 2018, 274 in 2023 Baltimore Murders - 233 in 2013, 309 in 2018, 262 in 2023 DC has had an outrageous jump in crime over the past 5 and 10 years. And unlike Baltimore DC has an extremely expensive housing market. At a certain point the market is going to reflect the crime rate, just like it did in the early 1990s when you could buy a row home in Columbia Heights for $75,000. |
You are describing the costs of maintenance and taxes, which all home owners pay, without comparing with single home ownership. I regularly hear people plan to spend this much on homeownership on average. |
Only terminally online helicopter parents are worried about living in a city that has by far the highest crime rate out of any capital city in the Western World? That’s an incredibly nihilistic outlook. |
+1 the PP was clearly posting from some rich area of DC where they think all DC parents don't have to worry about crime just because they, personally, aren't impacted by crime in their safe haven bubble. |
The condo fees are in addition to taxes! So you are paying an extra $2000 a month just for maintenance, which is $24,000 a year on top of property taxes which could be another $15000 a year. So that's approaching $40,000 and this still does not include insurance etc. |
Who cares about the higher number of murders if it’s the same group of youth gangs getting each other killed. The more the merrier in my view. It leaves the city with the better people |
Oh then I'll stop caring when the bullets fly by my house where my children sleep and neighbors ducked for cover. Didn't realize I should be celebrating the gunshots! |
This is literally the reason that the people I know left Hill East. Cowering in their home while a drive-by shooting happened (after a spate of other nearby violent crime) was the straw that broke the camel's back. Add to it the fact that it's not very walkable and the schools are terrible, and I don't know why anyone would want to live there. People are waking up. |
Plus being represented by a council member who thinks violent crime is just part of "city living". |
+2 It's either that or their oldest kid is under age 6 so they don't understand that the crime means you can't send your 7+ old kids to roam around with friends. Sure you can push your stroller around the less safe areas, but it's a world of difference when your kids can't run around the neighborhood with friends like second graders in safe neighborhoods can. We left DC in part due to rising crime. Our once-safe neighborhood was no longer safe and our kids could no longer roam around with friends. |
Which neighborhood did you leave ? |
If that's the attitude, they will pretty soon not have any city living! |
Think of it as spring cleaning. |