2024 Lottery Results

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So if your lottery number says #4, and you have in boundary preference, does that mean you are 4th on the list of those with in boundary preference, or are you 4th among all current applicants (and 1-3 are potentially sibling attending preference)?

Your waitlist number is always your overall number on the waitlist. There is not a separate waitlist for kids with preferences. You are fourth in line for the school.

However, your IB preference likely helped you get such a high number, jumping you past OOB students with better lottery draws but no preference.

And yes, it's possible the one or more of the 3 kids on the list above yours are both IB and sibling preferences. But they also might just be IB preference. Or just sibling preference. That part is not possible to know but also doesn't change anything for you. You're fourth on the list and unless you get bumped due to a student gaining a new preference (usually sibling preference due to a sibling being given an offer or admitted to the school), you are fourth in line for an offer. Congrats -- those are decent odds at the vast majority of schools (there are some who wont even make that many offers, but most will at least go to 4 on their waitlist).

No. There is an order to the preferences. If the person ranked #4 has IB but not sibling preference, the only people above them would have either IB with sibling enrolled, IB with sibling offered, or just IB. They would not have OOB sibling. The only exception is if it's a dual language school, where sibling and IB preference are in reverse order.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So if your lottery number says #4, and you have in boundary preference, does that mean you are 4th on the list of those with in boundary preference, or are you 4th among all current applicants (and 1-3 are potentially sibling attending preference)?

Your waitlist number is always your overall number on the waitlist. There is not a separate waitlist for kids with preferences. You are fourth in line for the school.

However, your IB preference likely helped you get such a high number, jumping you past OOB students with better lottery draws but no preference.

And yes, it's possible the one or more of the 3 kids on the list above yours are both IB and sibling preferences. But they also might just be IB preference. Or just sibling preference. That part is not possible to know but also doesn't change anything for you. You're fourth on the list and unless you get bumped due to a student gaining a new preference (usually sibling preference due to a sibling being given an offer or admitted to the school), you are fourth in line for an offer. Congrats -- those are decent odds at the vast majority of schools (there are some who wont even make that many offers, but most will at least go to 4 on their waitlist).

Thanks for the breakdown. Unfortunately, I think this school is in the slim minority of schools that rarely make offers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Are you in bounds for one of those Hill schools for kindergarten? If not, I would take the spot you got at Peabody or try for LT

nah, we're in bound for Miner. Which, honestly, seems totally fine despite allllll the drama. (But not trying to get into that here.)

Main concern of ours is the feeling (rumor?) that a lot of families bail after K at Peabody. Is that founded? Or just nonsense? We're local so all these schools are easy bike ride, no issue there. Just wanna give the kiddo the most stable path possible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So if your lottery number says #4, and you have in boundary preference, does that mean you are 4th on the list of those with in boundary preference, or are you 4th among all current applicants (and 1-3 are potentially sibling attending preference)?

Your waitlist number is always your overall number on the waitlist. There is not a separate waitlist for kids with preferences. You are fourth in line for the school.

However, your IB preference likely helped you get such a high number, jumping you past OOB students with better lottery draws but no preference.

And yes, it's possible the one or more of the 3 kids on the list above yours are both IB and sibling preferences. But they also might just be IB preference. Or just sibling preference. That part is not possible to know but also doesn't change anything for you. You're fourth on the list and unless you get bumped due to a student gaining a new preference (usually sibling preference due to a sibling being given an offer or admitted to the school), you are fourth in line for an offer. Congrats -- those are decent odds at the vast majority of schools (there are some who wont even make that many offers, but most will at least go to 4 on their waitlist).

No. There is an order to the preferences. If the person ranked #4 has IB but not sibling preference, the only people above them would have either IB with sibling enrolled, IB with sibling offered, or just IB. They would not have OOB sibling. The only exception is if it's a dual language school, where sibling and IB preference are in reverse order.

You have the order wrong, PP had it right. The order of preference at this dual language school is IB w/ sibling, sibling attending, sibling offered, IB, any of which could be ahead of an IB preference on the waitlist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:here are our results for our 4 year old. she's in AppleTree-LP right now (which we love)


RANK SCHOOL NAME PREFERENCES STATUS Status Definitions NEXT STEPS
1 School-Within-School Waitlisted - #50
2 Maury Elementary School Waitlisted - #79
3 Ludlow-Taylor Elementary School Waitlisted - #19
4 Brent Elementary School Waitlisted - #54
5 Peabody Elementary School Match (enrollment pending)


I think we'll stay w/AppleTree-LP and roll again next year? Peabody is tempting but Watkins doesn't seem popular? Ludlow Taylor also tempting, assuming at 19 we'd have a shot

I would submit a post-lottery application at JOW and Payne. Maybe Tyler too but I think you'd only have a shot at English track and I don't know about it. Apple Tree has no feed so I would not want to get stuck waiting to strike gold for next year or later. You need an elementary school.

JOW will be a tricky couple years in their swing space but then your kid would spend 1st-5th at their brand new campus, and I think you'll see a lot of buy in once that opens too. They have a could core group of parents and the PTA gets better every year. It's not a perfect school but definitely about to be on the upswing.

Payne is solid. Not great, not terrible. But I'd rather be in PK4 at Payne, knowing I could stay there for K/1st/2nd, than at Apple Tree with no plan.

And if you wind up at either of these schools, you can lottery again next year and hope you get a better spot with the expansion for K that often happens. Plenty of kids on the Hill wind up jumping schools for PK4 and again for K or 1st -- at that age it doesn't matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:here are our results for our 4 year old. she's in AppleTree-LP right now (which we love)


RANK SCHOOL NAME PREFERENCES STATUS Status Definitions NEXT STEPS
1 School-Within-School Waitlisted - #50
2 Maury Elementary School Waitlisted - #79
3 Ludlow-Taylor Elementary School Waitlisted - #19
4 Brent Elementary School Waitlisted - #54
5 Peabody Elementary School Match (enrollment pending)


I think we'll stay w/AppleTree-LP and roll again next year? Peabody is tempting but Watkins doesn't seem popular? Ludlow Taylor also tempting, assuming at 19 we'd have a shot

I would submit a post-lottery application at JOW and Payne. Maybe Tyler too but I think you'd only have a shot at English track and I don't know about it. Apple Tree has no feed so I would not want to get stuck waiting to strike gold for next year or later. You need an elementary school.

JOW will be a tricky couple years in their swing space but then your kid would spend 1st-5th at their brand new campus, and I think you'll see a lot of buy in once that opens too. They have a could core group of parents and the PTA gets better every year. It's not a perfect school but definitely about to be on the upswing.

Payne is solid. Not great, not terrible. But I'd rather be in PK4 at Payne, knowing I could stay there for K/1st/2nd, than at Apple Tree with no plan.

And if you wind up at either of these schools, you can lottery again next year and hope you get a better spot with the expansion for K that often happens. Plenty of kids on the Hill wind up jumping schools for PK4 and again for K or 1st -- at that age it doesn't matter.

Tyler/Chisolm is all Spanish now, depending on if you want that. Payne rarely makes it to OOB kids in ECE that are not siblings, so you could put it on there, but it may not be realistic. Although as somebody who has been there for multiple kids for many years, I can say it is a school you could stay at. JO Wilson is about to do a renovation/swing space which is a good thing, but will impact commute for a bit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:waitlisted #125 at yu ying Pk3 ahahahhaaa

that's ok, i wasn't really sold on the drive and am very skeptical the new building will be ready, but wanted to give little one a shot at a second language. got into my second choice, will be able to walk the little one to school this year and we can see how things go.

YY admin has been open with current families that the new building will not be ready when school starts in Fall 2024.

interesting, I wonder if they scaled back the lottery pool to fit the current facility, then? I think they were slated to have 75 lottery seats but they did not have enough classrooms if the new facility was not ready. they were insisting at the open house I went to that it was totally going to be complete.

also my little one is right above the age cutoff, so it's going to be complete crapshoot (ha) if they'll be fully potty-trained w/o accidents by the time school starts. YY was also clear that kids needed to be fully potty trained, they don't have the staff to support stragglers.

[Anonymous]

Hill person: if you're happy at Appletree and would be willing to go to Miner for K, just sit tight and see if you get offered a spot at L-T sometime before count day. All these suggestions and machinations by other people to find you a match seem to be ignoring that you feel good about your current and potential next year sure thing option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Rising ninth grader. Walls did not interview, Banneker rejected after interview, dismal numbers on the lottery-based schools.

Not even on the wait-list after an interview...That's just wrong!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rising ninth grader. Walls did not interview, Banneker rejected after interview, dismal numbers on the lottery-based schools.

Not even on the wait-list after an interview...That's just wrong!

Yeah I agree with this - they should put every kid they interview on the waitlist, even if it means that on a practical level, there's no change. On the other hand, maybe having the closure now is helpful?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Are you in bounds for one of those Hill schools for kindergarten? If not, I would take the spot you got at Peabody or try for LT

nah, we're in bound for Miner. Which, honestly, seems totally fine despite allllll the drama. (But not trying to get into that here.)

Main concern of ours is the feeling (rumor?) that a lot of families bail after K at Peabody. Is that founded? Or just nonsense? We're local so all these schools are easy bike ride, no issue there. Just wanna give the kiddo the most stable path possible.

Yes it is founded, but there are families that stick around for Watkins. It's not like everyone leaves, and there will be Hill families at Watkins. But a lower percentage than at the other schools you lotteried for.

But yes, you'll see families leave after Peabody. One factor is that due to the cluster's weird elongated zone, a decent number of families zoned for the cluster get proximity preference for LT after K when their IB becomes Watkins, because LT is a lot closer to the Peabody end of the zone than the Watkins end. That's a no-brainer for most families -- LT is closer plus considered a better school. So you see some families peel off for that. Others will get offers in K for other schools when school rosters expand and take them. Others bail for private and were really only in it for the free PK at a small school that's just ECE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:waitlisted #125 at yu ying Pk3 ahahahhaaa

that's ok, i wasn't really sold on the drive and am very skeptical the new building will be ready, but wanted to give little one a shot at a second language. got into my second choice, will be able to walk the little one to school this year and we can see how things go.

YY admin has been open with current families that the new building will not be ready when school starts in Fall 2024.

interesting, I wonder if they scaled back the lottery pool to fit the current facility, then? I think they were slated to have 75 lottery seats but they did not have enough classrooms if the new facility was not ready. they were insisting at the open house I went to that it was totally going to be complete.

also my little one is right above the age cutoff, so it's going to be complete crapshoot (ha) if they'll be fully potty-trained w/o accidents by the time school starts. YY was also clear that kids needed to be fully potty trained, they don't have the staff to support stragglers.

I ee on the MSDC site they say it will be open but i live three blocks away and nothing is even close. I can't imagine they will be at Kirov in 5 months,

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:here are our results for our 4 year old. she's in AppleTree-LP right now (which we love)


RANK SCHOOL NAME PREFERENCES STATUS Status Definitions NEXT STEPS
1 School-Within-School Waitlisted - #50
2 Maury Elementary School Waitlisted - #79
3 Ludlow-Taylor Elementary School Waitlisted - #19
4 Brent Elementary School Waitlisted - #54
5 Peabody Elementary School Match (enrollment pending)


I think we'll stay w/AppleTree-LP and roll again next year? Peabody is tempting but Watkins doesn't seem popular? Ludlow Taylor also tempting, assuming at 19 we'd have a shot

Definitely not guaranteed, but based on the past several years' waitlist movement data, eventually getting an offer at #19 is possible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Rising ninth grader. Walls did not interview, Banneker rejected after interview, dismal numbers on the lottery-based schools.

Same here on all accounts. The only bright side is we're renting, so we can move out of the city.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Are you in bounds for one of those Hill schools for kindergarten? If not, I would take the spot you got at Peabody or try for LT

nah, we're in bound for Miner. Which, honestly, seems totally fine despite allllll the drama. (But not trying to get into that here.)

Main concern of ours is the feeling (rumor?) that a lot of families bail after K at Peabody. Is that founded? Or just nonsense? We're local so all these schools are easy bike ride, no issue there. Just wanna give the kiddo the most stable path possible.

More families stay in the Peabody/Watkins feeder than stay in Miner. Plus you get access to Stuart Hobson.