What schools are better than the lower Ivies?

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Anonymous wrote:Most kids who are given the choice choose UCLA, Cal, and Michigan over Cornell.

This. My kid at least committed to Michigan rather than wait for Cornell and Dartmouth (and other top schools). Obviously we don't know whether he would have gotten into those ivies but he was adamant that he preferred Michigan. Ann Arbor seemed like a lot more fun than Ithaca or Hanover for one thing.

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None. Ivy carries prestige that sticks with you for life. "He went to an Ivy League school." People are impressed, forever.

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CMU for engineering, cs, drama and undergrad business

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:None. Ivy carries prestige that sticks with you for life. "He went to an Ivy League school." People are impressed, forever.

Nothing impressive about this. What they have done after college is what matters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:None. Ivy carries prestige that sticks with you for life. "He went to an Ivy League school." People are impressed, forever.

Engineers don't care about this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most kids who are given the choice choose UCLA, Cal, and Michigan over Cornell.

Of course many non-wealthy students will choose an inexpensive in-state public option over a private college with $65k tuition.

77% of Cal students get in-state California tuition ($12k),
52% of Michigan students get in-state tuition ($17k).

Cornell tuition is $65k (or $44k tuition for about 15% of NYS residents in the endowed colleges).

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most kids who are given the choice choose UCLA, Cal, and Michigan over Cornell.

Of course many non-wealthy students will choose an inexpensive in-state public option over a private college with $65k tuition.

77% of Cal students get in-state California tuition ($12k),
52% of Michigan students get in-state tuition ($17k).

Cornell tuition is $65k (or $44k tuition for about 15% of NYS residents in the endowed colleges).

+1 Most kids who are not instate at Michigan or Cal will choose Cornell. Particularly on the East Coast.

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The lower ivies 🙄🙄

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Anonymous wrote:None. Ivy carries prestige that sticks with you for life. "He went to an Ivy League school." People are impressed, forever.

Less so than before.

Harvard for the name, though not the undergraduate education.

Princeton and Yale for the names and prestige, and for the academic rigor.

Columbia for the rigor of the core curriculum.

Penn for Wharton, if you majored in business as an undergraduate.

Cornell for engineering, if you travel in those circles.

Brown and Dartmouth - no real advantage over scores of other schools like Duke, Northwestern, Chicago, Washington U, Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, and Pomona. Brown might be at a disadvantage given the widespread perception that the wealthy can buy admission there.

[Anonymous]

If your kid, or you, are choosing a college based on how impressed other people will be with your child for the rest of their life, you need to take a really hard look at how you've raised your child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Aside from Stanford, MIT, Duke, Caltech, which schools do you consider better than the "lower ivies" (Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell)?

Its hard to say better or worse but Vanderbilt, Rice, CMU, Amherst, Northwestern and Hopkins are their peer institutions.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Aside from Stanford, MIT, Duke, Caltech, which schools do you consider better than the "lower ivies" (Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell)?

Its hard to say better or worse but Vanderbilt, Rice, CMU, Amherst, Northwestern and Hopkins are their peer institutions.

This is so random. Amherst is always mentioned in the same breath as Williams, Swarthmore and Bowdoin, the other top SLACs. This list makes zero sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If your kid, or you, are choosing a college based on how impressed other people will be with your child for the rest of their life, you need to take a really hard look at how you've raised your child.

+1 and if your child underdelivers in the workplace and people know where they graduated from, it will go worse for them.

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Anonymous wrote:If your kid, or you, are choosing a college based on how impressed other people will be with your child for the rest of their life, you need to take a really hard look at how you've raised your child.

To be fair, most 17-18 year olds can't predict how their college experience is going to be so going to schools with large endowments and high achieving peers isn't a bad strategy. You get good resources and competitive environment.

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Anonymous wrote:None. Ivy carries prestige that sticks with you for life. "He went to an Ivy League school." People are impressed, forever.

Who are these people? Because I am not impressed one bit. It's not what I value.