Household manager?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not all the nannies can be trained. We tried to have a driving nanny/household manager combo, and it's a disaster. The families she worked for before had little kids; we have teenagers who need to be driven places. She forgets the schedule, calls me at work weekly to ask, can't estimate how long things take, and never takes initiative. The only thing she's OK with is grocery shopping, but then she shops for herself, too, so it takes longer. I can believe that she's good with babies, where little is asked of her in terms of planning and execution, but as a household manager, she is of little help. My mental load just doubled, and I need to find someone else. Oh, we pay $25 cash for 4-5 hours a day, and then all the holidays, sick leave, and pay when we don't need her.

Why would you think a nanny could be a good manager?

Because she took the job, where I clearly described the requirements, I trusted her judgment and was wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would never have a Household Manager, that is so low-rent. My Majordomo handles all those pesky details, plus acts as my personal assistant and event planner.

hahahaha

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was a household manager for 12 years and have been recruiting, screening, and placing them with families for 6+ years through my agency.

It depends if this will be a nanny/household manager hybrid role or strictly household manager, but in general the duties encompass everything to keep the home running and organized outside of actual deep cleaning (which is housekeepers/cleaning lady duties). Typical duties includes:
Errands
Organizational tasks (cleaning out fridge, pantry, closets, storage)
Booking appointments
Managing routine home and car maintanence
Groceries/stocking household items
Meal prep
Planning and booking (vacations, kids activities, vendors, contractors, etc)
Seasonal tasks (Christmas cards, gift shopping, wrapping, decorating, making sure kids have seasonally appropriate gear)
Vets/grooming appts/feeding/walking pets
Sorting and donating clothes/toys
Managing family/school calendars
Packing lunches/laying out clothes for the next day
Generally putting things back in their places
Laundry

Can you provide more details? I am trying to see what exactly each task includes. For example, laundry: does it include folding, hanging, ironing, dry cleaning drop off pick ups, putting sheets on the beds?

Meal prep -- did you cook all meals for the family?
Laying out clothes - I presume this is for children only? Or were you to prepare the outfits for the adults?
Cleaning out fridge, pantry, closets, storage - why these tasks were not done by cleaning lady/crew?

Thank you!

You know, do a little of your own work. PP wrote a 14 point list and you want her to expand? I guess this is why you need a household manager...

Thank you for your helpful response and thank you for taking the time to answer the question that was not addressed to you.

[Anonymous]

Everyone with a deadbeat or work addict husband needs one!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They are not the same. A housekeeper just cleans. A manager manages all house maintenance, pays house- related bills, orders groceries, supplies. Etc. They would schedule and manage the housekeeper, nanny, landscaping etc.

You mean like Mrs. Hughes from Downton Abbey?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Everyone with a deadbeat or work addict husband needs one!

Or anyone with an ultra controling wife.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was a household manager for 12 years and have been recruiting, screening, and placing them with families for 6+ years through my agency.
Ed
It depends if this will be a nanny/household manager hybrid role or strictly household manager, but in general the duties encompass everything to keep the home running and organized outside of actual deep cleaning (which is housekeepers/cleaning lady duties). Typical duties includes:
Errands
Organizational tasks (cleaning out fridge, pantry, closets, storage)
Booking appointments
Managing routine home and car maintanence
Groceries/stocking household items
Meal prep
Planning and booking (vacations, kids activities, vendors, contractors, etc)
Seasonal tasks (Christmas cards, gift shopping, wrapping, decorating, making sure kids have seasonally appropriate gear)
Vets/grooming appts/feeding/walking pets
Sorting and donating clothes/toys
Managing family/school calendars
Packing lunches/laying out clothes for the next day
Generally putting things back in their places
Laundry

Can you provide more details? I am trying to see what exactly each task includes. For example, laundry: does it include folding, hanging, ironing, dry cleaning drop off pick ups, putting sheets on the beds?

Meal prep -- did you cook all meals for the family?
Laying out clothes - I presume this is for children only? Or were you to prepare the outfits for the adults?
Cleaning out fridge, pantry, closets, storage - why these tasks were not done by cleaning lady/crew?

Thank you!

You know, do a little of your own work. PP wrote a 14 point list and you want her to expand? I guess this is why you need a household manager...

Thank you for your helpful response and thank you for taking the time to answer the question that was not addressed to you.

Happy to help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not all the nannies can be trained. We tried to have a driving nanny/household manager combo, and it's a disaster. The families she worked for before had little kids; we have teenagers who need to be driven places. She forgets the schedule, calls me at work weekly to ask, can't estimate how long things take, and never takes initiative. The only thing she's OK with is grocery shopping, but then she shops for herself, too, so it takes longer. I can believe that she's good with babies, where little is asked of her in terms of planning and execution, but as a household manager, she is of little help. My mental load just doubled, and I need to find someone else. Oh, we pay $25 cash for 4-5 hours a day, and then all the holidays, sick leave, and pay when we don't need her.

Why would you think a nanny could be a good manager?

Because she took the job, where I clearly described the requirements, I trusted her judgment and was wrong.

Low income workers usually have to take whatever they can get.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'll do this job for $100k or more a year. Where do you find these jobs?

I’m a SAHM and you’d have to pay me considerably more. It’s a grind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll do this job for $100k or more a year. Where do you find these jobs?

I’m a SAHM and you’d have to pay me considerably more. It’s a grind.

I worked full-time while raising kids and did everything listed in the bullet point. My kids are grown now and there is no amount of money that would entice me to do that job for a stranger. Doing everything for just adults is enough. Some of you are just lazy.

[Anonymous]

I think I do 90% on this list (dh does errands, dishes and everyone does their own laundry), plus I work f/t and I make 145k—-after a PhD and 20 yrs in my field! Damn. I would love to have a “household manager” myself.

It also reminds me how much in our supposedly equal” marriage my spouse doesn’t do. Like, I’m getting everyone their Xmas presents right now (his family too); booked all the plane tickets, cars; air bnbs; etc. I manage all our finances, bills, home care and my own car care. I deal with insurance/medical bills and reimbursement; shopping for housebound goods; lawn care, taxes, most of the cooking, and weekly tidying of the entire house. I deal with all our mail, make all the vet/dental/seminal appointments. I am the only one who gets on the school websites to check grades and homework and email teachers. . I do all our entertaining. I work more hours at an office (he’s remote) and I’m so freaking tired.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love that people pay this, and think a SAHM is worthless.

Delivery fees on Ubereats also cost a lot; that doesn't mean people couldn't do it themselves if they wanted. They're paying for convenience. SAHM may not be worthless, but it certainly isn't worth half.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll do this job for $100k or more a year. Where do you find these jobs?

I’m a SAHM and you’d have to pay me considerably more. It’s a grind.

Your whole financial life is taken care of by someone else's grind, of course you would say that.

[Anonymous]

so no one has done this? Is it worth it our nanny basically does this now but she only does drop off at school in the morning we are trying to figure out what to do w/ the extra hours

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:are these real numbers? I pay our nanny 21/hour and was looking to see if it make sense to have her find another nanny job or to hire a household manager, if they are trulky 150k-300k a year I might just train her lol

That is appalling low. We pay our housekepers twice that! I'd def pay people more when it comes to childcare. You don't want an angry, disgruntled employee in charge of your kids.