What is Kenyon College like -- looking for actual and recent experiences...

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Anonymous wrote:My impression is that the SLACs are where the athletes and the NARPs can frolic freely together.


Not necessarily. Friend of mine had a son at Williams who said the athlete / rich kid / woke kid / "everyone else" cliques didn't mix much.



so four cliques? jock, rich, woke, and remainder?


I think it’s basically two. Athletes are often from well to do backgrounds so there is a natural overlap with jock and rich. (Some would argue the point of athletics is to attract full pay rich kids.) This woke nonsense has exacerbated the natural divergence between goal oriented athletes and creative/intellectual/dissolute NARPs. Now the NARPs can’t even be reasoned with. My DS at Kenyon is really far from a traditional jock although he plays a sport. But he does find a lot of these NARPs are truly abnormal people- shockingly so. His estimate is about half of them are really off the deep end. I’m happy his social life is centered around the sports/Greek kids (who overlap heavily). This generation may just be a little stranger than previous ones. Raised on iPhones, Covid, the rise of transgenderism/BLM, etc.


I don't even know what this means.


Imagine two boys. One has purple hair, is committed to social justice, enjoys drugs, writes poetry, plays the flute, and considers himself non-binary. Another one plays lacrosse, has a closet full of vineyard vines, enjoys beer and aspires to run a hedge fund. What I’m suggesting is a social paradigm that can be semi-accurately described as a tension between these two extreme poles.


The hedge fund-aspiring vineyard vines kid never does cocaine. Never. It's the poet-flautist who enjoys drugs, see.


Wokeness is to a large extent a reincarnation of 1960s counter culture (led by the same hero, Herbert Marcuse, who preached sexual liberation). So yeah I think the woke kids are the ones messing around with drugs primarily.
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We looked at Kenyon and were very impressed with the programs and the campus itself. The athletic facilities are top-notch for a D3 school, and they opened a gorgeous, brant new library. They also received a large donation that will cover new housing. I would have gone there in a heartbeat, but our daughter decided it was bit too remote compared with her other options.
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Anonymous wrote:We looked at Kenyon and were very impressed with the programs and the campus itself. The athletic facilities are top-notch for a D3 school, and they opened a gorgeous, brant new library. They also received a large donation that will cover new housing. I would have gone there in a heartbeat, but our daughter decided it was bit too remote compared with her other options.


Yes the $100 million gift for dorms is equivalent to a 20 pct increase in the endowment. The endowment itself has grown significantly in past 5 years due to fundraising. The school is in a much better financial position than it has ever been.
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Anonymous wrote:My kid is not at Kenyon, but I have spent time on campus and my kid is a D3 athlete. Kenyon is a beautiful campus with spectacular athletic facilities. Good luck to your child and you MIL should keep her mouth shut.

Agree. SLAC are nothing like a public high school! Really stupid thing to “wonder”.


Many SLACs are similar--very similar--to prep boarding schools and may resemble to a lesser extent good private day schools.


Similar in what way? My kids graduated from or currently attend three different private day schools in the DMV, all generally deemed as "Big 3" by DCUM. The oldest two went on to a NESCAC college. Neither has found it to "resemble" their high school other than in being a relatively small school where it is easy to get to know their classmates. Both have found their college classes to be more demanding and neither is bored in the least.


Was thinking mostly of the elite New England prep boarding schools (HADES for example) and elite NYC private day schools. (Know of several dozen kids who experienced this from those schools.)



Interesting. My DCs attended an NYC private day schools and have friends, either from camp or their day school, who attended NE boarding schools. When they are hanging out, I'm not hearing them say, "oh, it's just like HS." Some of them acknowledge that the rigor prepared them for school, but not the social scene.

It's not the 1980s.


What does this mean ????
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My kid chose Kenyon b/c it was the "best" academic school that "recruited" him to play his sport. No top tier NESCAC did, and Swarthmore and Haverford could not guarantee him admission based on his pre-read. So admittedly Kenyon was his Plan B, but his experience, education, and the strength of the alumni network has catapulted him to a strata only thought was possible in dreams....
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Anonymous wrote:My impression is that the SLACs are where the athletes and the NARPs can frolic freely together.


Not necessarily. Friend of mine had a son at Williams who said the athlete / rich kid / woke kid / "everyone else" cliques didn't mix much.



so four cliques? jock, rich, woke, and remainder?


I think it’s basically two. Athletes are often from well to do backgrounds so there is a natural overlap with jock and rich. (Some would argue the point of athletics is to attract full pay rich kids.) This woke nonsense has exacerbated the natural divergence between goal oriented athletes and creative/intellectual/dissolute NARPs. Now the NARPs can’t even be reasoned with. My DS at Kenyon is really far from a traditional jock although he plays a sport. But he does find a lot of these NARPs are truly abnormal people- shockingly so. His estimate is about half of them are really off the deep end. I’m happy his social life is centered around the sports/Greek kids (who overlap heavily). This generation may just be a little stranger than previous ones. Raised on iPhones, Covid, the rise of transgenderism/BLM, etc.


I don't even know what this means.


Imagine two boys. One has purple hair, is committed to social justice, enjoys drugs, writes poetry, plays the flute, and considers himself non-binary. Another one plays lacrosse, has a closet full of vineyard vines, enjoys beer and aspires to run a hedge fund. What I’m suggesting is a social paradigm that can be semi-accurately described as a tension between these two extreme poles.


The hedge fund-aspiring vineyard vines kid never does cocaine. Never. It's the poet-flautist who enjoys drugs, see.


Wokeness is to a large extent a reincarnation of 1960s counter culture (led by the same hero, Herbert Marcuse, who preached sexual liberation). So yeah I think the woke kids are the ones messing around with drugs primarily.


You didn’t learn to reason at a LAC, did you?
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Anonymous wrote:My kid is not at Kenyon, but I have spent time on campus and my kid is a D3 athlete. Kenyon is a beautiful campus with spectacular athletic facilities. Good luck to your child and you MIL should keep her mouth shut.

Agree. SLAC are nothing like a public high school! Really stupid thing to “wonder”.


Many SLACs are similar--very similar--to prep boarding schools and may resemble to a lesser extent good private day schools.


Similar in what way? My kids graduated from or currently attend three different private day schools in the DMV, all generally deemed as "Big 3" by DCUM. The oldest two went on to a NESCAC college. Neither has found it to "resemble" their high school other than in being a relatively small school where it is easy to get to know their classmates. Both have found their college classes to be more demanding and neither is bored in the least.


Was thinking mostly of the elite New England prep boarding schools (HADES for example) and elite NYC private day schools. (Know of several dozen kids who experienced this from those schools.)



Interesting. My DCs attended an NYC private day schools and have friends, either from camp or their day school, who attended NE boarding schools. When they are hanging out, I'm not hearing them say, "oh, it's just like HS." Some of them acknowledge that the rigor prepared them for school, but not the social scene.

It's not the 1980s.


What does this mean ????


It's not the 1980s - these schools are much more diverse than they were in the 1980s and the student bodies are not comprised of HADES grads.
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Anonymous wrote:My kid is not at Kenyon, but I have spent time on campus and my kid is a D3 athlete. Kenyon is a beautiful campus with spectacular athletic facilities. Good luck to your child and you MIL should keep her mouth shut.

Agree. SLAC are nothing like a public high school! Really stupid thing to “wonder”.


Many SLACs are similar--very similar--to prep boarding schools and may resemble to a lesser extent good private day schools.


Similar in what way? My kids graduated from or currently attend three different private day schools in the DMV, all generally deemed as "Big 3" by DCUM. The oldest two went on to a NESCAC college. Neither has found it to "resemble" their high school other than in being a relatively small school where it is easy to get to know their classmates. Both have found their college classes to be more demanding and neither is bored in the least.


Was thinking mostly of the elite New England prep boarding schools (HADES for example) and elite NYC private day schools. (Know of several dozen kids who experienced this from those schools.)



Interesting. My DCs attended an NYC private day schools and have friends, either from camp or their day school, who attended NE boarding schools. When they are hanging out, I'm not hearing them say, "oh, it's just like HS." Some of them acknowledge that the rigor prepared them for school, but not the social scene.

It's not the 1980s.


What does this mean ????


It's not the 1980s - these schools are much more diverse than they were in the 1980s and the student bodies are not comprised of HADES grads.


*overwhelmingly comprised
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My impression is that the SLACs are where the athletes and the NARPs can frolic freely together.


Not necessarily. Friend of mine had a son at Williams who said the athlete / rich kid / woke kid / "everyone else" cliques didn't mix much.



so four cliques? jock, rich, woke, and remainder?


I think it’s basically two. Athletes are often from well to do backgrounds so there is a natural overlap with jock and rich. (Some would argue the point of athletics is to attract full pay rich kids.) This woke nonsense has exacerbated the natural divergence between goal oriented athletes and creative/intellectual/dissolute NARPs. Now the NARPs can’t even be reasoned with. My DS at Kenyon is really far from a traditional jock although he plays a sport. But he does find a lot of these NARPs are truly abnormal people- shockingly so. His estimate is about half of them are really off the deep end. I’m happy his social life is centered around the sports/Greek kids (who overlap heavily). This generation may just be a little stranger than previous ones. Raised on iPhones, Covid, the rise of transgenderism/BLM, etc.


I don't even know what this means.


Imagine two boys. One has purple hair, is committed to social justice, enjoys drugs, writes poetry, plays the flute, and considers himself non-binary. Another one plays lacrosse, has a closet full of vineyard vines, enjoys beer and aspires to run a hedge fund. What I’m suggesting is a social paradigm that can be semi-accurately described as a tension between these two extreme poles.


The hedge fund-aspiring vineyard vines kid never does cocaine. Never. It's the poet-flautist who enjoys drugs, see.


Wokeness is to a large extent a reincarnation of 1960s counter culture (led by the same hero, Herbert Marcuse, who preached sexual liberation). So yeah I think the woke kids are the ones messing around with drugs primarily.


You didn’t learn to reason at a LAC, did you?


No, an Ivy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My kid chose Kenyon b/c it was the "best" academic school that "recruited" him to play his sport. No top tier NESCAC did, and Swarthmore and Haverford could not guarantee him admission based on his pre-read. So admittedly Kenyon was his Plan B, but his experience, education, and the strength of the alumni network has catapulted him to a strata only thought was possible in dreams....


Business?
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Anonymous wrote:My impression is that the SLACs are where the athletes and the NARPs can frolic freely together.


Not necessarily. Friend of mine had a son at Williams who said the athlete / rich kid / woke kid / "everyone else" cliques didn't mix much.



so four cliques? jock, rich, woke, and remainder?


I think it’s basically two. Athletes are often from well to do backgrounds so there is a natural overlap with jock and rich. (Some would argue the point of athletics is to attract full pay rich kids.) This woke nonsense has exacerbated the natural divergence between goal oriented athletes and creative/intellectual/dissolute NARPs. Now the NARPs can’t even be reasoned with. My DS at Kenyon is really far from a traditional jock although he plays a sport. But he does find a lot of these NARPs are truly abnormal people- shockingly so. His estimate is about half of them are really off the deep end. I’m happy his social life is centered around the sports/Greek kids (who overlap heavily). This generation may just be a little stranger than previous ones. Raised on iPhones, Covid, the rise of transgenderism/BLM, etc.


I don't even know what this means.


Imagine two boys. One has purple hair, is committed to social justice, enjoys drugs, writes poetry, plays the flute, and considers himself non-binary. Another one plays lacrosse, has a closet full of vineyard vines, enjoys beer and aspires to run a hedge fund. What I’m suggesting is a social paradigm that can be semi-accurately described as a tension between these two extreme poles.


The hedge fund-aspiring vineyard vines kid never does cocaine. Never. It's the poet-flautist who enjoys drugs, see.


Wokeness is to a large extent a reincarnation of 1960s counter culture (led by the same hero, Herbert Marcuse, who preached sexual liberation). So yeah I think the woke kids are the ones messing around with drugs primarily.


You didn’t learn to reason at a LAC, did you?


No, an Ivy.

Cornell?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My impression is that the SLACs are where the athletes and the NARPs can frolic freely together.


Not necessarily. Friend of mine had a son at Williams who said the athlete / rich kid / woke kid / "everyone else" cliques didn't mix much.



so four cliques? jock, rich, woke, and remainder?


I think it’s basically two. Athletes are often from well to do backgrounds so there is a natural overlap with jock and rich. (Some would argue the point of athletics is to attract full pay rich kids.) This woke nonsense has exacerbated the natural divergence between goal oriented athletes and creative/intellectual/dissolute NARPs. Now the NARPs can’t even be reasoned with. My DS at Kenyon is really far from a traditional jock although he plays a sport. But he does find a lot of these NARPs are truly abnormal people- shockingly so. His estimate is about half of them are really off the deep end. I’m happy his social life is centered around the sports/Greek kids (who overlap heavily). This generation may just be a little stranger than previous ones. Raised on iPhones, Covid, the rise of transgenderism/BLM, etc.


I don't even know what this means.


Imagine two boys. One has purple hair, is committed to social justice, enjoys drugs, writes poetry, plays the flute, and considers himself non-binary. Another one plays lacrosse, has a closet full of vineyard vines, enjoys beer and aspires to run a hedge fund. What I’m suggesting is a social paradigm that can be semi-accurately described as a tension between these two extreme poles.


The hedge fund-aspiring vineyard vines kid never does cocaine. Never. It's the poet-flautist who enjoys drugs, see.


Wokeness is to a large extent a reincarnation of 1960s counter culture (led by the same hero, Herbert Marcuse, who preached sexual liberation). So yeah I think the woke kids are the ones messing around with drugs primarily.


You didn’t learn to reason at a LAC, did you?


No, an Ivy.

Cornell?


ew, no
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Anonymous wrote:My impression is that the SLACs are where the athletes and the NARPs can frolic freely together.


Not necessarily. Friend of mine had a son at Williams who said the athlete / rich kid / woke kid / "everyone else" cliques didn't mix much.



so four cliques? jock, rich, woke, and remainder?


I think it’s basically two. Athletes are often from well to do backgrounds so there is a natural overlap with jock and rich. (Some would argue the point of athletics is to attract full pay rich kids.) This woke nonsense has exacerbated the natural divergence between goal oriented athletes and creative/intellectual/dissolute NARPs. Now the NARPs can’t even be reasoned with. My DS at Kenyon is really far from a traditional jock although he plays a sport. But he does find a lot of these NARPs are truly abnormal people- shockingly so. His estimate is about half of them are really off the deep end. I’m happy his social life is centered around the sports/Greek kids (who overlap heavily). This generation may just be a little stranger than previous ones. Raised on iPhones, Covid, the rise of transgenderism/BLM, etc.


I don't even know what this means.


Imagine two boys. One has purple hair, is committed to social justice, enjoys drugs, writes poetry, plays the flute, and considers himself non-binary. Another one plays lacrosse, has a closet full of vineyard vines, enjoys beer and aspires to run a hedge fund. What I’m suggesting is a social paradigm that can be semi-accurately described as a tension between these two extreme poles.


The hedge fund-aspiring vineyard vines kid never does cocaine. Never. It's the poet-flautist who enjoys drugs, see.


Wokeness is to a large extent a reincarnation of 1960s counter culture (led by the same hero, Herbert Marcuse, who preached sexual liberation). So yeah I think the woke kids are the ones messing around with drugs primarily.


You didn’t learn to reason at a LAC, did you?


A few anti-"woke" influencers have mentioned Marcuse lately, always in terms simplistic enough to fit a tidy agenda. My guess is PP read about Marcuse in somebody's substack, or the equivalent.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My kid chose Kenyon b/c it was the "best" academic school that "recruited" him to play his sport. No top tier NESCAC did, and Swarthmore and Haverford could not guarantee him admission based on his pre-read. So admittedly Kenyon was his Plan B, but his experience, education, and the strength of the alumni network has catapulted him to a strata only thought was possible in dreams....


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Kenyon sounds extremely underrated
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My impression is that the SLACs are where the athletes and the NARPs can frolic freely together.


Not necessarily. Friend of mine had a son at Williams who said the athlete / rich kid / woke kid / "everyone else" cliques didn't mix much.



so four cliques? jock, rich, woke, and remainder?


I think it’s basically two. Athletes are often from well to do backgrounds so there is a natural overlap with jock and rich. (Some would argue the point of athletics is to attract full pay rich kids.) This woke nonsense has exacerbated the natural divergence between goal oriented athletes and creative/intellectual/dissolute NARPs. Now the NARPs can’t even be reasoned with. My DS at Kenyon is really far from a traditional jock although he plays a sport. But he does find a lot of these NARPs are truly abnormal people- shockingly so. His estimate is about half of them are really off the deep end. I’m happy his social life is centered around the sports/Greek kids (who overlap heavily). This generation may just be a little stranger than previous ones. Raised on iPhones, Covid, the rise of transgenderism/BLM, etc.


I don't even know what this means.


Imagine two boys. One has purple hair, is committed to social justice, enjoys drugs, writes poetry, plays the flute, and considers himself non-binary. Another one plays lacrosse, has a closet full of vineyard vines, enjoys beer and aspires to run a hedge fund. What I’m suggesting is a social paradigm that can be semi-accurately described as a tension between these two extreme poles.


are these my two options????? god help us.


The PP lives in a cartoon of their own making.
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