MCPS Giving out As?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The highest unweighted grade is a 4.0 so obviously the poster means weighted.

MCPS essentially has a 5-point scale because most classes are at the honors level or higher (the top GPA must be very close to a 5.0- maybe a 4.9 with required non-weighted classes, but more realistically around a 4.85) so that is not actually surprising. In my kid's high school 41% have a weighted 4.0 or above. Of those, 19% have a 4.51 and above. The percentage of students who go to 4-year colleges is very similar to the number who have a 4.0 weighted and above (38%).

Yes, today a 4.0W is like a solid B average when I was a kid.

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Anonymous wrote:If a student can get a 79 in one quarter and 89 in the other and still get an A, that is 100% grade inflation. You all should be worried because if your kid gets a B, it looks really really bad to the college admissions officer who is evaluating their transcript. A B in an MCPS school is like a C in the nearby private schools. Just sayin.

Sorry that would be a B and this is an extreme and unlikely example.

As a teacher, it is very common for a student to get an 89.5 (or just above) one quarter and therefore earn an A, and then get a very low B, sometimes even a 79.5 and therefore have an A on the transcript.

I don't know what colleges think about Bs on transcripts from MCPS schools, but students earning As on transcripts that mathematically were not As, is very common.

+1. All you have to do is look at the profiles mcps high schools send colleges to see how rampant grade inflation has become. Over 50% of students have a 4.0 or better. If you have any Bs you are literally in the bottom half of the class.

Share a link, not of a magnet program but an entire high school that has 50 percent with 4.0.

As requested
https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/high-schools/r-w/woottonhs/uploadedfiles/counseling/school_profile__wootton_high_2017-2018.pdf

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If a student can get a 79 in one quarter and 89 in the other and still get an A, that is 100% grade inflation. You all should be worried because if your kid gets a B, it looks really really bad to the college admissions officer who is evaluating their transcript. A B in an MCPS school is like a C in the nearby private schools. Just sayin.

Sorry that would be a B and this is an extreme and unlikely example.

As a teacher, it is very common for a student to get an 89.5 (or just above) one quarter and therefore earn an A, and then get a very low B, sometimes even a 79.5 and therefore have an A on the transcript.

I don't know what colleges think about Bs on transcripts from MCPS schools, but students earning As on transcripts that mathematically were not As, is very common.

+1. All you have to do is look at the profiles mcps high schools send colleges to see how rampant grade inflation has become. Over 50% of students have a 4.0 or better. If you have any Bs you are literally in the bottom half of the class.

Share a link, not of a magnet program but an entire high school that has 50 percent with 4.0.

As requested
https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/high-schools/r-w/woottonhs/uploadedfiles/counseling/school_profile__wootton_high_2017-2018.pdf

Um, that shows 45% have an unweighted GPA between 3.51 and 4.0. Far cry from 50% at 4.0.

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Anonymous wrote:If a student can get a 79 in one quarter and 89 in the other and still get an A, that is 100% grade inflation. You all should be worried because if your kid gets a B, it looks really really bad to the college admissions officer who is evaluating their transcript. A B in an MCPS school is like a C in the nearby private schools. Just sayin.

Sorry that would be a B and this is an extreme and unlikely example.

As a teacher, it is very common for a student to get an 89.5 (or just above) one quarter and therefore earn an A, and then get a very low B, sometimes even a 79.5 and therefore have an A on the transcript.

I don't know what colleges think about Bs on transcripts from MCPS schools, but students earning As on transcripts that mathematically were not As, is very common.

+1. All you have to do is look at the profiles mcps high schools send colleges to see how rampant grade inflation has become. Over 50% of students have a 4.0 or better. If you have any Bs you are literally in the bottom half of the class.

Share a link, not of a magnet program but an entire high school that has 50 percent with 4.0.

As requested
https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/high-schools/r-w/woottonhs/uploadedfiles/counseling/school_profile__wootton_high_2017-2018.pdf

Um, that shows 45% have an unweighted GPA between 3.51 and 4.0. Far cry from 50% at 4.0.

Stop messing up my false narrative

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If a student can get a 79 in one quarter and 89 in the other and still get an A, that is 100% grade inflation. You all should be worried because if your kid gets a B, it looks really really bad to the college admissions officer who is evaluating their transcript. A B in an MCPS school is like a C in the nearby private schools. Just sayin.

Sorry that would be a B and this is an extreme and unlikely example.

As a teacher, it is very common for a student to get an 89.5 (or just above) one quarter and therefore earn an A, and then get a very low B, sometimes even a 79.5 and therefore have an A on the transcript.

I don't know what colleges think about Bs on transcripts from MCPS schools, but students earning As on transcripts that mathematically were not As, is very common.

+1. All you have to do is look at the profiles mcps high schools send colleges to see how rampant grade inflation has become. Over 50% of students have a 4.0 or better. If you have any Bs you are literally in the bottom half of the class.

Share a link, not of a magnet program but an entire high school that has 50 percent with 4.0.

As requested
https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/high-schools/r-w/woottonhs/uploadedfiles/counseling/school_profile__wootton_high_2017-2018.pdf

Um, that shows 45% have an unweighted GPA between 3.51 and 4.0. Far cry from 50% at 4.0.

The other pp was referring to weighted GPA apparently

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If a student can get a 79 in one quarter and 89 in the other and still get an A, that is 100% grade inflation. You all should be worried because if your kid gets a B, it looks really really bad to the college admissions officer who is evaluating their transcript. A B in an MCPS school is like a C in the nearby private schools. Just sayin.

Sorry that would be a B and this is an extreme and unlikely example.

As a teacher, it is very common for a student to get an 89.5 (or just above) one quarter and therefore earn an A, and then get a very low B, sometimes even a 79.5 and therefore have an A on the transcript.

I don't know what colleges think about Bs on transcripts from MCPS schools, but students earning As on transcripts that mathematically were not As, is very common.

+1. All you have to do is look at the profiles mcps high schools send colleges to see how rampant grade inflation has become. Over 50% of students have a 4.0 or better. If you have any Bs you are literally in the bottom half of the class.

Share a link, not of a magnet program but an entire high school that has 50 percent with 4.0.

As requested
https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/high-schools/r-w/woottonhs/uploadedfiles/counseling/school_profile__wootton_high_2017-2018.pdf

Um, that shows 45% have an unweighted GPA between 3.51 and 4.0. Far cry from 50% at 4.0.

The other pp was referring to weighted GPA apparently

Based on the data from the link, the approx average unweighted GPA is [b]3.36 = B+[b]

The math: calculate the average unweighted GPA by multiplying the midpoint of each GPA range by the % of the 2018 class in the range and then sum the products.

[Anonymous]

A thread from the College Forum inspired me to look our local high school's profile. I knew grade inflation was happening but it's interesting to see the big difference in just a few years.

2019: Unweighted GPA percentage 3.51-4.0, 41%; Weighted GPA 4.51 and above 21%
https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/contentassets/e23b5ffcd58a4899b487ae7fea097727/bcchs-school-and-ib-profile-final-2019.pdf

2023: Unweighted GPA percentage 3.51-4.0, 57%; Weighted GPA 4.51 and above 36%
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tbbHyRUgAbwf86_7H4NHawP_PCpP-ODu/view

Interesting also that the way they report the SAT differs between the two profiles with the 2019 profile stating that 211/505 scored 1250 or higher while the 2023 profile states the composite mean as 1159.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No. My 11th grader is working so hard right now. She takes several AP classes and the amount of work is surprising. Her honors math class is challenging as well. All of her A’s are earned.

DD 11th grader has an unweighted 3.9 and doesn't seem to work hard at it. Obviously I love DD but those grades are not due to her brilliance. I suspect teachers handing out grades or cheating.

I have a 10th grader with a 4.0 and I know that he has figured out how to work the system - a system that is easy to hack. Since an A one quarter and a B the next equals an A for the semester, he knows that if he gets all A's in the first quarter he can take his foot of the gas in Q2. He also knows that when his A is solid he doesn't have to worry about handing in every homework assignment because they are not weighted very heavily. We have a lot of conversations about making sure he understands the content but life is about figuring out how to maximize results so I can't really fault him.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No. My 11th grader is working so hard right now. She takes several AP classes and the amount of work is surprising. Her honors math class is challenging as well. All of her A’s are earned.

DD 11th grader has an unweighted 3.9 and doesn't seem to work hard at it. Obviously I love DD but those grades are not due to her brilliance. I suspect teachers handing out grades or cheating.

I have a 10th grader with a 4.0 and I know that he has figured out how to work the system - a system that is easy to hack. Since an A one quarter and a B the next equals an A for the semester, he knows that if he gets all A's in the first quarter he can take his foot of the gas in Q2. He also knows that when his A is solid he doesn't have to worry about handing in every homework assignment because they are not weighted very heavily. We have a lot of conversations about making sure he understands the content but life is about figuring out how to maximize results so I can't really fault him.

Years ago there used to be semester exams to exactly deal with this issue. I can't remember the actual weighting of the exam, but we need to bring them back.

[Anonymous]

Honestly, it's up to parents if you want your kids' grades to mean anything since the teachers hands are tied. We allow our kid one "regrade" per class per quarter. We tell them we prefer if it's zero. They need to earn the A.

They don't get any reward for getting straight A's.

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Anonymous wrote:If a student can get a 79 in one quarter and 89 in the other and still get an A, that is 100% grade inflation. You all should be worried because if your kid gets a B, it looks really really bad to the college admissions officer who is evaluating their transcript. A B in an MCPS school is like a C in the nearby private schools. Just sayin.

Sorry that would be a B and this is an extreme and unlikely example.

As a teacher, it is very common for a student to get an 89.5 (or just above) one quarter and therefore earn an A, and then get a very low B, sometimes even a 79.5 and therefore have an A on the transcript.

I don't know what colleges think about Bs on transcripts from MCPS schools, but students earning As on transcripts that mathematically were not As, is very common.

+1. All you have to do is look at the profiles mcps high schools send colleges to see how rampant grade inflation has become. Over 50% of students have a 4.0 or better. If you have any Bs you are literally in the bottom half of the class.

Share a link, not of a magnet program but an entire high school that has 50 percent with 4.0.

As requested
https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/high-schools/r-w/woottonhs/uploadedfiles/counseling/school_profile__wootton_high_2017-2018.pdf

Um, that shows 45% have an unweighted GPA between 3.51 and 4.0. Far cry from 50% at 4.0.

16% 4.51 and above; 34% 4.01-4.5

16+34= 50% at 4.01 and above

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, it's up to parents if you want your kids' grades to mean anything since the teachers hands are tied. We allow our kid one "regrade" per class per quarter. We tell them we prefer if it's zero. They need to earn the A.

They don't get any reward for getting straight A's.

Do you micromanage their assignments?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No. My 11th grader is working so hard right now. She takes several AP classes and the amount of work is surprising. Her honors math class is challenging as well. All of her A’s are earned.

DD 11th grader has an unweighted 3.9 and doesn't seem to work hard at it. Obviously I love DD but those grades are not due to her brilliance. I suspect teachers handing out grades or cheating.

I have a 10th grader with a 4.0 and I know that he has figured out how to work the system - a system that is easy to hack. Since an A one quarter and a B the next equals an A for the semester, he knows that if he gets all A's in the first quarter he can take his foot of the gas in Q2. He also knows that when his A is solid he doesn't have to worry about handing in every homework assignment because they are not weighted very heavily. We have a lot of conversations about making sure he understands the content but life is about figuring out how to maximize results so I can't really fault him.

Years ago there used to be semester exams to exactly deal with this issue. I can't remember the actual weighting of the exam, but we need to bring them back.

I'm the pp and I totally agree. I'm thankful that this kid has to at least study for an take AP exams because otherwise they will be totally unprepared for college. Bring back final exams!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If a student can get a 79 in one quarter and 89 in the other and still get an A, that is 100% grade inflation. You all should be worried because if your kid gets a B, it looks really really bad to the college admissions officer who is evaluating their transcript. A B in an MCPS school is like a C in the nearby private schools. Just sayin.

Sorry that would be a B and this is an extreme and unlikely example.

As a teacher, it is very common for a student to get an 89.5 (or just above) one quarter and therefore earn an A, and then get a very low B, sometimes even a 79.5 and therefore have an A on the transcript.

I don't know what colleges think about Bs on transcripts from MCPS schools, but students earning As on transcripts that mathematically were not As, is very common.

+1. All you have to do is look at the profiles mcps high schools send colleges to see how rampant grade inflation has become. Over 50% of students have a 4.0 or better. If you have any Bs you are literally in the bottom half of the class.

Share a link, not of a magnet program but an entire high school that has 50 percent with 4.0.

As requested
https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/high-schools/r-w/woottonhs/uploadedfiles/counseling/school_profile__wootton_high_2017-2018.pdf

Um, that shows 45% have an unweighted GPA between 3.51 and 4.0. Far cry from 50% at 4.0.

16% 4.51 and above; 34% 4.01-4.5

16+34= 50% at 4.01 and above

You’re looking at the wrong numbers. The claim was about unweighted GPA.

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Anonymous wrote:If a student can get a 79 in one quarter and 89 in the other and still get an A, that is 100% grade inflation. You all should be worried because if your kid gets a B, it looks really really bad to the college admissions officer who is evaluating their transcript. A B in an MCPS school is like a C in the nearby private schools. Just sayin.

Sorry that would be a B and this is an extreme and unlikely example.

As a teacher, it is very common for a student to get an 89.5 (or just above) one quarter and therefore earn an A, and then get a very low B, sometimes even a 79.5 and therefore have an A on the transcript.

I don't know what colleges think about Bs on transcripts from MCPS schools, but students earning As on transcripts that mathematically were not As, is very common.

+1. All you have to do is look at the profiles mcps high schools send colleges to see how rampant grade inflation has become. Over 50% of students have a 4.0 or better. If you have any Bs you are literally in the bottom half of the class.

Share a link, not of a magnet program but an entire high school that has 50 percent with 4.0.

As requested
https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/high-schools/r-w/woottonhs/uploadedfiles/counseling/school_profile__wootton_high_2017-2018.pdf

Um, that shows 45% have an unweighted GPA between 3.51 and 4.0. Far cry from 50% at 4.0.

16% 4.51 and above; 34% 4.01-4.5

16+34= 50% at 4.01 and above

You’re looking at the wrong numbers. The claim was about unweighted GPA.

The claim was 50% have a 4.0 or better. You can’t have better with an unweighted GPA. Unless I’m missing the part where they claim unweighted