Percent of students who live in boundary....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is Jackson Reed only 55% in-boundary? Are the out of boundary students coming in because they lotteried into a feeder school? Or are they lotterying in to JR for high school? Wondering because JR is over subscribed.

Yes it is the feeder school OOB kids continuing on. They should get rid of it and the school would not be oversubscribed.

Wasn't MacArthur supposed to provide relief to JR?

It will, but it will take time. This is the first year Hardy students didn't have the option to attend JR. Deal was 85% IB last year while Hardy was 61%, so I suspect JR will have a higher IB % as time goes on.

Some interesting trends:

Deal's IB % has been steadily climbing, from 74% in SY19-20 to 85% in SY24-25.

Hardy's IB % climbed rapidly and then more slowly from 46% in SY19-20 to 65% in SY23-24, then dropped a bit to 61% in SY24-25.

JR's IB % has bounced around between 61-67% from SY19-20 through SY24-25. 61% in SY24-25.

Where did you get those numbers from?

https://edscape.dc.gov/page/enrollments-dcps-boundary-00

The dashboard shows boundary participation rate, but if you download the spreadsheet at the bottom you can also get the % IB numbers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm excited to see how the the new Eastern principal, coming from Banneker with IB experience, will enhance the IB program at Eastern. My older child (now at an application HS) get lots of messaging during our IB MS time about programs at Eastern and as an 8th grader, info about applying to the EPIC program. I also have a 6th grader and am keeping an eye on how the IB program grows at Eastern in the next few years.

It sounds like Eastern may be doing a better job with EH than its other feeders (maybe proximity?), because there is no messaging like this at ours. If they are messaging at EH solely due to the IB aspect, that seems very misguided/mistaking the cart for the horse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm excited to see how the the new Eastern principal, coming from Banneker with IB experience, will enhance the IB program at Eastern. My older child (now at an application HS) get lots of messaging during our IB MS time about programs at Eastern and as an 8th grader, info about applying to the EPIC program. I also have a 6th grader and am keeping an eye on how the IB program grows at Eastern in the next few years.

It sounds like Eastern may be doing a better job with EH than its other feeders (maybe proximity?), because there is no messaging like this at ours. If they are messaging at EH solely due to the IB aspect, that seems very misguided/mistaking the cart for the horse.

I'm the PP and we're not at EH, we're at Jefferson.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm excited to see how the the new Eastern principal, coming from Banneker with IB experience, will enhance the IB program at Eastern. My older child (now at an application HS) get lots of messaging during our IB MS time about programs at Eastern and as an 8th grader, info about applying to the EPIC program. I also have a 6th grader and am keeping an eye on how the IB program grows at Eastern in the next few years.

It sounds like Eastern may be doing a better job with EH than its other feeders (maybe proximity?), because there is no messaging like this at ours. If they are messaging at EH solely due to the IB aspect, that seems very misguided/mistaking the cart for the horse.

I'm the PP and we're not at EH, we're at Jefferson.

Sorry misunderstood the IB reference above and thought you were talking about a MS IB program, which would be EH. Fascinating my kid has gotten basically no messaging re: Eastern at SH. I think it's basically understood that the overwhelming majority of students go elsewhere. That is, some kids obviously go to Eastern, but it's not even always the most popular destination. For example, 3 years ago, more kids went to McKinley than Eastern. For last year's class, my understanding is that more kids/equal number of kids are heading to Duke as Eastern.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm excited to see how the the new Eastern principal, coming from Banneker with IB experience, will enhance the IB program at Eastern. My older child (now at an application HS) get lots of messaging during our IB MS time about programs at Eastern and as an 8th grader, info about applying to the EPIC program. I also have a 6th grader and am keeping an eye on how the IB program grows at Eastern in the next few years.

It sounds like Eastern may be doing a better job with EH than its other feeders (maybe proximity?), because there is no messaging like this at ours. If they are messaging at EH solely due to the IB aspect, that seems very misguided/mistaking the cart for the horse.

I'm the PP and we're not at EH, we're at Jefferson.

Sorry misunderstood the IB reference above and thought you were talking about a MS IB program, which would be EH. Fascinating my kid has gotten basically no messaging re: Eastern at SH. I think it's basically understood that the overwhelming majority of students go elsewhere. That is, some kids obviously go to Eastern, but it's not even always the most popular destination. For example, 3 years ago, more kids went to McKinley than Eastern. For last year's class, my understanding is that more kids/equal number of kids are heading to Duke as Eastern.

This is probably true, as the students at EH and Eastern overlap on the practice fields, sometimes EH kids join Eastern's band, and last year the geometry students in 8th grade went over to Eastern for class. I have met the new principal at Eastern, and he seems to be interested in building connections with all of the feeder communities, so hopefully he spends time building strong relationships wiht SH and Jefferson as well this year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is Jackson Reed only 55% in-boundary? Are the out of boundary students coming in because they lotteried into a feeder school? Or are they lotterying in to JR for high school? Wondering because JR is over subscribed.

Yes it is the feeder school OOB kids continuing on. They should get rid of it and the school would not be oversubscribed.

They should not get rid of it. It’s silly to make kids change schools after being part of a community for years.

(I’m an in-bounds JR parent, so my kid would stay there either way.)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is Jackson Reed only 55% in-boundary? Are the out of boundary students coming in because they lotteried into a feeder school? Or are they lotterying in to JR for high school? Wondering because JR is over subscribed.

Yes it is the feeder school OOB kids continuing on. They should get rid of it and the school would not be oversubscribed.

They should not get rid of it. It’s silly to make kids change schools after being part of a community for years.

(I’m an in-bounds JR parent, so my kid would stay there either way.)

Tons of kids in DC change school when starting middle or high school.

Yes, they should get rid of it in ward 3 if there is already a severe overcrowding issues and schools are straining.

And no, I’m not a ward 3 parent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is Jackson Reed only 55% in-boundary? Are the out of boundary students coming in because they lotteried into a feeder school? Or are they lotterying in to JR for high school? Wondering because JR is over subscribed.

Yes it is the feeder school OOB kids continuing on. They should get rid of it and the school would not be oversubscribed.

They should not get rid of it. It’s silly to make kids change schools after being part of a community for years.

(I’m an in-bounds JR parent, so my kid would stay there either way.)

It’s also silly — and dangerous, and bad for the overall learning environment — to exceed a building’s physical capabilities by cramming too many kids into it, to the point where trailers are needed. When that happens, they need to start paring things back, and the out-of-boundary kids should be drawing the short straw.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is Jackson Reed only 55% in-boundary? Are the out of boundary students coming in because they lotteried into a feeder school? Or are they lotterying in to JR for high school? Wondering because JR is over subscribed.

Yes it is the feeder school OOB kids continuing on. They should get rid of it and the school would not be oversubscribed.

They should not get rid of it. It’s silly to make kids change schools after being part of a community for years.

(I’m an in-bounds JR parent, so my kid would stay there either way.)

It’s also silly — and dangerous, and bad for the overall learning environment — to exceed a building’s physical capabilities by cramming too many kids into it, to the point where trailers are needed. When that happens, they need to start paring things back, and the out-of-boundary kids should be drawing the short straw.

Or maybe they can all just deal with it and no one has to draw the short straw.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Why is Jackson Reed only 55% in-boundary? Are the out of boundary students coming in because they lotteried into a feeder school? Or are they lotterying in to JR for high school? Wondering because JR is over subscribed.

Yes it is the feeder school OOB kids continuing on. They should get rid of it and the school would not be oversubscribed.

They should not get rid of it. It’s silly to make kids change schools after being part of a community for years.

(I’m an in-bounds JR parent, so my kid would stay there either way.)

It’s also silly — and dangerous, and bad for the overall learning environment — to exceed a building’s physical capabilities by cramming too many kids into it, to the point where trailers are needed. When that happens, they need to start paring things back, and the out-of-boundary kids should be drawing the short straw.

Or maybe they can all just deal with it and no one has to draw the short straw.

Do you realize our major ramifications with schools that are over capacity and over-enrolled correct?

Not enough classrooms. Not enough seats.
Very large class sizes
Teachers overwhelmed with too many students and can’t help individual needs
Increase behavior issues
Increase fights in the hallway
Crazy early and late lunchtime due to limited seating for lunch

Many more ramifications , but these come to the top of my mind

[Anonymous]

DCPS already DID deal with it by building out a whole new high school for one of the JR feeders.

Once JR is fully feeding only from Deal (SY28-29), you'll have around 250-320 students per grade (based on last 5 years of data on # of students who move on from Deal to JR). So 1,000 - 1,300 in a facility with capacity for 1,600.

There's no need to exclude OOB students with feeder rights.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DCPS already DID deal with it by building out a whole new high school for one of the JR feeders.

Once JR is fully feeding only from Deal (SY28-29), you'll have around 250-320 students per grade (based on last 5 years of data on # of students who move on from Deal to JR). So 1,000 - 1,300 in a facility with capacity for 1,600.

There's no need to exclude OOB students with feeder rights.

Well there’s no capacity need. The school would get a lot better in terms of test performance if it only had Ward 3 students in it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCPS already DID deal with it by building out a whole new high school for one of the JR feeders.

Once JR is fully feeding only from Deal (SY28-29), you'll have around 250-320 students per grade (based on last 5 years of data on # of students who move on from Deal to JR). So 1,000 - 1,300 in a facility with capacity for 1,600.

There's no need to exclude OOB students with feeder rights.

Well there’s no capacity need. The school would get a lot better in terms of test performance if it only had Ward 3 students in it.

What a weird take.

The OOB students at JR:
- Have been learning in Ward 3 schools since at least late elementary
- Have invested parents with the awareness and know-how to lottery into Ward 3 schools early AND the commitment to commuting for schools for years

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DCPS already DID deal with it by building out a whole new high school for one of the JR feeders.

Once JR is fully feeding only from Deal (SY28-29), you'll have around 250-320 students per grade (based on last 5 years of data on # of students who move on from Deal to JR). So 1,000 - 1,300 in a facility with capacity for 1,600.

There's no need to exclude OOB students with feeder rights.

Well this does not help current families at all so…..

And basically, Hardy families got screwed over having to go to MA which is a nightmare to get to and limited in academic, EC, and sports offerings.

If they did not do OOB feeder rights, JR could accommodate all IB ward 3 families.

But we know that the priority of DCPS was not ward 3 families. It is to get more OOB families in ward 3 schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCPS already DID deal with it by building out a whole new high school for one of the JR feeders.

Once JR is fully feeding only from Deal (SY28-29), you'll have around 250-320 students per grade (based on last 5 years of data on # of students who move on from Deal to JR). So 1,000 - 1,300 in a facility with capacity for 1,600.

There's no need to exclude OOB students with feeder rights.

Well there’s no capacity need. The school would get a lot better in terms of test performance if it only had Ward 3 students in it.

Why do you care what the overall test scores are if your kid’s test scores are good?