Please stop assuming women with lower salaries are un- or under-educated

[Anonymous]

It is a judgmental area. Some of us work from home for big bucks, but wear t-shirts. It would go right over someone's head here, because they would rather judge what someone is wearing (say, if they are out and about in between working). The "shallowness" parallels OP's post.

It's simply a judgmental area. Lots of people here lose out that way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"When I tell people I have to stay at home b/c daycare is too expensive, they say things like "I could never afford to stay at home." As a teacher, I can't afford to work! After paying for daycare for 2 plus all of the other things that go with me working (gas, another car to get to work, car insurance, clothing, etc) I would probably not even break even. But I have the same number of years of education as all of my lawyers friends. I knew I would never earn a big salary as a teacher but the world needs good teachers. I don't think we need any more lawyers though. "

Based on your poor writing skills, I hope you indeed are not a teacher. I find it very difficult to believe that you have the same amount of education as a lawyer admitted to practice in the U.S.A.

She made one typo on an anonymous message board. What's your problem?

[Anonymous]

We need some sort of Godwin's Law for calling out typo's on a board. Unless the debate is about grammar/spelling, doing so ranks right up there with the pettiest tactic when attempting to engaging in intelligent discourse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"When I tell people I have to stay at home b/c daycare is too expensive, they say things like "I could never afford to stay at home." As a teacher, I can't afford to work! After paying for daycare for 2 plus all of the other things that go with me working (gas, another car to get to work, car insurance, clothing, etc) I would probably not even break even. But I have the same number of years of education as all of my lawyers friends. I knew I would never earn a big salary as a teacher but the world needs good teachers. I don't think we need any more lawyers though. "

Based on your poor writing skills, I hope you indeed are not a teacher. I find it very difficult to believe that you have the same amount of education as a lawyer admitted to practice in the U.S.A.

She made one typo on an anonymous message board. What's your problem?

She's the same woman from the bra-strap thread that looked down on a woman for having children at the age of 25. I can smell her a mile away. The stench is overwhelming.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Based on your poor writing skills, I hope you indeed are not a teacher. I find it very difficult to believe that you have the same amount of education as a lawyer admitted to practice in the U.S.A.

Yeah, because the legal profession is so discerning and exclusive! Too fucking funny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"When I tell people I have to stay at home b/c daycare is too expensive, they say things like "I could never afford to stay at home." As a teacher, I can't afford to work! After paying for daycare for 2 plus all of the other things that go with me working (gas, another car to get to work, car insurance, clothing, etc) I would probably not even break even. But I have the same number of years of education as all of my lawyers friends. I knew I would never earn a big salary as a teacher but the world needs good teachers. I don't think we need any more lawyers though. "

Based on your poor writing skills, I hope you indeed are not a teacher. I find it very difficult to believe that you have the same amount of education as a lawyer admitted to practice in the U.S.A.

Based on your callous response, I hope you indeed are not a therapist. I find it very difficult to believe that you have the same level of empathy as a therapist admitted to practice in the U.S.A.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We need some sort of Godwin's Law for calling out typo's on a board. Unless the debate is about grammar/spelling, doing so ranks right up there with the pettiest tactic when attempting to engaging in intelligent discourse.

I just love you for bringing up Godwin's Law. It's a favorite of mine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Based on your poor writing skills, I hope you indeed are not a teacher. I find it very difficult to believe that you have the same amount of education as a lawyer admitted to practice in the U.S.A.

Yeah, because the legal profession is so discerning and exclusive! Too fucking funny.

I move we make PhDs the standard for "highly educated" on this board. I don't think a single additional year of grad/professional school in a not-necessarily-scholarly subject offers most lawyers a lot of legitimate bragging rights, here.

[Anonymous]

Single year beyond a Masters, that is...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you can't afford childcare, you can't afford childcare.

It doesn't mean you're uneducated, just not very practical lol.

When I tell people I have to stay at home b/c daycare is too expensive, they say things like "I could never afford to stay at home." As a teacher, I can't afford to work! After paying for daycare for 2 plus all of the other things that go with me working (gas, another car to get to work, car insurance, clothing, etc) I would probably not even break even. But I have the same number of years of education as all of my lawyers friends. I knew I would never earn a big salary as a teacher but the world needs good teachers. I don't think we need any more lawyers though.

I posted this. I have two years of graduate school plus 30+ credits beyond that. So, yes, I do have the same number of years of education as my friends who are lawyers. Teachers are required to have their Master's degree or equivalent within a certain number of years after beginning their teaching career. I believe it is within 5 years. I earned my Master's before I started teaching but I still have to take courses in order to keep my certification current. Teachers are also only usually reimbursed 50% of the cost of the courses they have to take for continuing education. Many teachers I know go from work to their graduate classes.

[Anonymous]

This thread started out with a legitimate point by the OP, even if she did overstate it a bit. It has now devolved into one of the most inane discussions we have had in awhile. What about lawyers with LLMs? Do they count? Should we respect teachers more because they have continuing ed requirements (just like lawyers and accountants)? What about an M.D.? Are doctors smart because grad school is four years instead of three? Or is medicine not sufficiently scholarly? Are lawyers just like plumbers? If so, is reading The Federalist Papers in order to make your case on constitutional grounds equivalent to reading a Kohler installation manual? If I have a Ph.D. in ancient languages, does that somehow make me smarter than a Supreme Court Justice or a brain surgeon?

OP, no one should assume anyone is smart or not smart, educated or uneducated, based on where she went to school, what she does now, how much money she makes, or how many letters are after her name. I haven't even seen the thread about which you were complaining, but it sounds like there are, in fact, some very stupid people on DCUM who just like to feel better about themselves by convincing themselves they are so much better than others. Next time I'm in continuing ed class, I'll try to remember to feel smug about how it makes me so special instead of being bored like I normally am. Oy.

[Anonymous]

"When I tell people I have to stay at home b/c daycare is too expensive, they say things like "I could never afford to stay at home." As a teacher, I can't afford to work! After paying for daycare for 2 plus all of the other things that go with me working (gas, another car to get to work, car insurance, clothing, etc) I would probably not even break even. But I have the same number of years of education as all of my lawyers friends. I knew I would never earn a big salary as a teacher but the world needs good teachers. I don't think we need any more lawyers though."

But you are NOT a teacher, good or otherwise, you opted out of the workforce because you have someone else to foot the bills.

[Anonymous]

I don't care how valuable your occupation is to society, it's just plain shortsighted to train yourself for a career that doesn't allow you to pay childcare and work. Either have fewer kids or increase your earning potential. Otherwise, what's the point of being a highly educated but unable to work mom?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't care how valuable your occupation is to society, it's just plain shortsighted to train yourself for a career that doesn't allow you to pay childcare and work. Either have fewer kids or increase your earning potential. Otherwise, what's the point of being a highly educated but unable to work mom?

Work before you have kids, work after your kids go to school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My sister (who is a SAHM) told me last year that it was a "shame" that I was "wasting my intelligence" in my chosen career. I'm a social worker, I have a master's from a great school, and my work is challenging, and yes, actually intellectually demanding! Just because a job doesn't pay big bucks doesn't mean that it is not a mentally challenging endeavor. Thanks for the thread, OP!

As a fellow SWer with advanced degrees and licenses, I couldn't agree more! Our line of work is intellectually, emotionally, and sometimes physically challenging despite the low salaries.

I think social workers, like teachers, go into the field truly motivated out of love of the profession. This is true of other professions and career choices, but our line of works does not offer (usually) other options to move into $100, 000/yr or more positions if we decide to change jobs. We are fully aware that while we won't be making the big bucks, we are able to contribute positively to our society by making changes in the world that improve others' lives.

I left the law to pursue social work and, while some people were stunned, I cannot tell you how many people came up to me to express their outright envy. They wanted to get out also! I never made a lot of money as a lawyer (government) but I am making a very low salary right now. However, I am much happier.