San Francisco is imploding

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much of San Francisco’s housing problem was caused by unregulated foreign money in real estate. We need to stop selling our country to other countries and non-citizens.

Do you really think that a passed-out drug addict lying on the sidewalk would be all that much better off with a roof over his head? Any apartment you put him in would be a filthy wreck within a month. SF has a drug and crime problem that dwarfs other issues like a housing shortage.

But San Francisco actually has a far lower crime rate than many other cities - same with residents with substance abuse problems.

San Francisco has many problems to be solved - but one issue it does NOT have is being a uniquely unsafe city when it comes to crime rates. That doesn't mean that San Francisco shouldn't address the crime in the city that his harming residents - but it's false to suggest that San Francisco's problems are 'because of crime'.

There's also foreign purchasing in San Fran that probably is driving up housing costs - but you can say the same about NYC, LA, Miami, and Chicago. And if this is your grievance - what level of government do you propose will solve it...and what is the constituency of politicians who will support solving it>

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much of San Francisco’s housing problem was caused by unregulated foreign money in real estate. We need to stop selling our country to other countries and non-citizens.

Do you really think that a passed-out drug addict lying on the sidewalk would be all that much better off with a roof over his head? Any apartment you put him in would be a filthy wreck within a month. SF has a drug and crime problem that dwarfs other issues like a housing shortage.

But San Francisco actually has a far lower crime rate than many other cities - same with residents with substance abuse problems.

San Francisco has many problems to be solved - but one issue it does NOT have is being a uniquely unsafe city when it comes to crime rates. That doesn't mean that San Francisco shouldn't address the crime in the city that his harming residents - but it's false to suggest that San Francisco's problems are 'because of crime'.

There's also foreign purchasing in San Fran that probably is driving up housing costs - but you can say the same about NYC, LA, Miami, and Chicago. And if this is your grievance - what level of government do you propose will solve it...and what is the constituency of politicians who will support solving it>

I don’t buy your assertions about lower crime rates and drug usage. The last two reports I heard from people who visited within the last couple of months: one had his car broken into on his first night in the city, and the other said the whole place smelled like weed and there were homeless people everywhere. I’d love to offer you a firsthand account but I see no need to go back there ever again.

[Anonymous]

There have also been two high profile attacks in the last week in SF.

One was Bob Lee... the tech executive who was stabbed and killed in a "nice" part of SF. Killer has not been caught.

The other was a former fire commissioner who was attacked by a man with a crow bar in front of his mother's home fracturing his skull and causing him to be hospitalized. This was also a "nice" are in SF. Suspect apprehended.

The randomness of these attacks is alarming.

My brother moved away from SF about 10 years ago. He saw it beginning to deteriorate and it's only gotten worse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much of San Francisco’s housing problem was caused by unregulated foreign money in real estate. We need to stop selling our country to other countries and non-citizens.

Do you really think that a passed-out drug addict lying on the sidewalk would be all that much better off with a roof over his head? Any apartment you put him in would be a filthy wreck within a month. SF has a drug and crime problem that dwarfs other issues like a housing shortage.

But San Francisco actually has a far lower crime rate than many other cities - same with residents with substance abuse problems.

San Francisco has many problems to be solved - but one issue it does NOT have is being a uniquely unsafe city when it comes to crime rates. That doesn't mean that San Francisco shouldn't address the crime in the city that his harming residents - but it's false to suggest that San Francisco's problems are 'because of crime'.

There's also foreign purchasing in San Fran that probably is driving up housing costs - but you can say the same about NYC, LA, Miami, and Chicago. And if this is your grievance - what level of government do you propose will solve it...and what is the constituency of politicians who will support solving it>

When you stop arresting people that commit crime (e.g. people who walk into walgreens take a whole bunch of stuff and simply walk out), of course your rate of crime appears to be 'lower'. There are many ways to manipulate crime stats. But the fact that whole foods had to close in my not like a year due to outrageous levels of theft and safety issues speaks volumes. Now residents are left with a food desert.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much of San Francisco’s housing problem was caused by unregulated foreign money in real estate. We need to stop selling our country to other countries and non-citizens.

Do you really think that a passed-out drug addict lying on the sidewalk would be all that much better off with a roof over his head? Any apartment you put him in would be a filthy wreck within a month. SF has a drug and crime problem that dwarfs other issues like a housing shortage.

Yes they would. You are a cruel and ignorant person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much of San Francisco’s housing problem was caused by unregulated foreign money in real estate. We need to stop selling our country to other countries and non-citizens.

Do you really think that a passed-out drug addict lying on the sidewalk would be all that much better off with a roof over his head? Any apartment you put him in would be a filthy wreck within a month. SF has a drug and crime problem that dwarfs other issues like a housing shortage.

But San Francisco actually has a far lower crime rate than many other cities - same with residents with substance abuse problems.

San Francisco has many problems to be solved - but one issue it does NOT have is being a uniquely unsafe city when it comes to crime rates. That doesn't mean that San Francisco shouldn't address the crime in the city that his harming residents - but it's false to suggest that San Francisco's problems are 'because of crime'.

There's also foreign purchasing in San Fran that probably is driving up housing costs - but you can say the same about NYC, LA, Miami, and Chicago. And if this is your grievance - what level of government do you propose will solve it...and what is the constituency of politicians who will support solving it>

I don’t buy your assertions about lower crime rates and drug usage. The last two reports I heard from people who visited within the last couple of months: one had his car broken into on his first night in the city, and the other said the whole place smelled like weed and there were homeless people everywhere. I’d love to offer you a firsthand account but I see no need to go back there ever again.

Yes we know that you don’t believe in math but facts are facts. San Francisco has one of the safest metro areas in the country. Rural counties are far more dangerous than San Francisco. The only reason why people feel otherwise is due to right wing lies and propaganda. Data and facts show the true picture tjat rural areas are far more dangerous than big city regions.

Deaths from selected external causes* per 100K population, 2020
Big Horn county, MT: 168.4
Calhoun County, MS: 161.5
Phillips County, AR: 138.7

San Francisco-Oakland Metropolitan Area: 16.9

Source: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
*Of the 997 counties for which the CDC reported mortality rates for 2020. All external causes except accidental poisoning, intentional self-harm, falls, complications of medical and surgical care and sequelae of external causes of morbidity and mortality

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-06-07/is-new-york-city-more-dangerous-than-rural-america

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much of San Francisco’s housing problem was caused by unregulated foreign money in real estate. We need to stop selling our country to other countries and non-citizens.

Do you really think that a passed-out drug addict lying on the sidewalk would be all that much better off with a roof over his head? Any apartment you put him in would be a filthy wreck within a month. SF has a drug and crime problem that dwarfs other issues like a housing shortage.

But San Francisco actually has a far lower crime rate than many other cities - same with residents with substance abuse problems.

San Francisco has many problems to be solved - but one issue it does NOT have is being a uniquely unsafe city when it comes to crime rates. That doesn't mean that San Francisco shouldn't address the crime in the city that his harming residents - but it's false to suggest that San Francisco's problems are 'because of crime'.

There's also foreign purchasing in San Fran that probably is driving up housing costs - but you can say the same about NYC, LA, Miami, and Chicago. And if this is your grievance - what level of government do you propose will solve it...and what is the constituency of politicians who will support solving it>

When you stop arresting people that commit crime (e.g. people who walk into walgreens take a whole bunch of stuff and simply walk out), of course your rate of crime appears to be 'lower'. There are many ways to manipulate crime stats. But the fact that whole foods had to close in my not like a year due to outrageous levels of theft and safety issues speaks volumes. Now residents are left with a food desert.

Wrong. You can’t hide statistical death rates by not arresting people. Death rates are far higher in rural right wing areas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The rest of the country needs to send SF money for taking the entire country’s homeless populations.
Those vagrants weren’t born in CA. SF needs to start shipping them back to the heartland or wherever they come from.

A lot of them are foreign born. Can we deport them too? That would rock.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much of San Francisco’s housing problem was caused by unregulated foreign money in real estate. We need to stop selling our country to other countries and non-citizens.

Do you really think that a passed-out drug addict lying on the sidewalk would be all that much better off with a roof over his head? Any apartment you put him in would be a filthy wreck within a month. SF has a drug and crime problem that dwarfs other issues like a housing shortage.

But San Francisco actually has a far lower crime rate than many other cities - same with residents with substance abuse problems.

San Francisco has many problems to be solved - but one issue it does NOT have is being a uniquely unsafe city when it comes to crime rates. That doesn't mean that San Francisco shouldn't address the crime in the city that his harming residents - but it's false to suggest that San Francisco's problems are 'because of crime'.

There's also foreign purchasing in San Fran that probably is driving up housing costs - but you can say the same about NYC, LA, Miami, and Chicago. And if this is your grievance - what level of government do you propose will solve it...and what is the constituency of politicians who will support solving it>

When you stop arresting people that commit crime (e.g. people who walk into walgreens take a whole bunch of stuff and simply walk out), of course your rate of crime appears to be 'lower'. There are many ways to manipulate crime stats. But the fact that whole foods had to close in my not like a year due to outrageous levels of theft and safety issues speaks volumes. Now residents are left with a food desert.

Wrong. You can’t hide statistical death rates by not arresting people. Death rates are far higher in rural right wing areas.

Death rates are only one indicator of crime.

The crime you’re ignoring are things like theft and car break ins. They have become rampant in SF, and they are not victimless crimes. The police don’t even bother to come out, so they go severely underreported on any official statistics.

This is the day to day stuff that contributes to the sense of lawlessness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much of San Francisco’s housing problem was caused by unregulated foreign money in real estate. We need to stop selling our country to other countries and non-citizens.

Do you really think that a passed-out drug addict lying on the sidewalk would be all that much better off with a roof over his head? Any apartment you put him in would be a filthy wreck within a month. SF has a drug and crime problem that dwarfs other issues like a housing shortage.

Yes they would. You are a cruel and ignorant person.

No, not cruel and ignorant, just not into enabling behavior that destroys people and communities.

I do agree that the passed-out junkie should have a roof over his head. In jail. It might just save his life.

[Anonymous]

"Crime is worse than the data shows," Charles "Cully" Stimson, Heritage Foundation senior legal fellow and former prosecutor in San Francisco, told Fox News Digital.

"People do not report these crimes because when you have a DA who's pro criminal and not going to enforce the law, the cops aren't going to go out and arrest somebody when they know the case is going to be no papered."

The first problem, according to Stimson, was the election of a Soros-backed D.A. with a reputation as soft of crime.

Stimson was referring to former San Francisco District Attorney George Gascón, who served in that role from January 2011 until October 2019. Stimson argued that Gascón's term ushered in a new era of rising crime in San Francisco, which had been experiencing nearly two decades of tumbling crime rates at the same time as many other major cities across the country.

Stimson argued that as Gascón's policies started to take hold in the city, crime started to rise around 2015 and 2016. The city's residents got no reprieve from the problem when Gascón left office, thanks to similar policies of former District Attorney Chesa Boudin from January 2020 until he was recalled in July 2022.

"Those policies include not prosecuting any misdemeanors, watering down most felonies to misdemeanors, not asking for long prison sentences even for people who are convicted of the worst crimes, never asking for bail," Stimson said.

Citing FBI and Justice Department data, Stimson pointed out that in the five years before Gascón took office in 2011, there were 757 reported rapes, an average of 151 per year, in San Francisco. But in Gascón's last five years in office, the city had a total of 1,731 reported rapes, or 346 per year.

"You always know with rape … the number of people actually raped is much higher than the number of people who report that they were raped," Stimson said.

He also pointed to aggravated assaults, which, in the five years before Gascón's tenure, tallied up to 11,921 reported incidents, or 2,384 per year. In the last five years of Gascón's term, that number jumped to 13,070, or 2,614 per year.

Such policies continued under the watch of Boudin, producing crime numbers that continued to hover well over pre-2011 rates.

San Francisco's crime issues did not stop with violent crime. The city has also had a surge of retail thefts that have forced many businesses to close their doors in recent years.

"Gascón and Boudin refused to prosecute retail thefts," Stimson said, citing a policy in which retails thefts under $1,000 went unprosecuted.

"You've seen the videos of people just engaging in the five-finger discount, walking into Target, walking into Nordstrom Rack … and just walking out during daylight with $950 worth of stuff," Stimson said. "They refused to prosecute any of that."

The lack of any serious threat of prosecution led many city residents and businesses to stop reporting the crimes altogether, a reality that has resulted in what is likely a vast undercount of such crimes in available statistics, he claimed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much of San Francisco’s housing problem was caused by unregulated foreign money in real estate. We need to stop selling our country to other countries and non-citizens.

Do you really think that a passed-out drug addict lying on the sidewalk would be all that much better off with a roof over his head? Any apartment you put him in would be a filthy wreck within a month. SF has a drug and crime problem that dwarfs other issues like a housing shortage.

But San Francisco actually has a far lower crime rate than many other cities - same with residents with substance abuse problems.

San Francisco has many problems to be solved - but one issue it does NOT have is being a uniquely unsafe city when it comes to crime rates. That doesn't mean that San Francisco shouldn't address the crime in the city that his harming residents - but it's false to suggest that San Francisco's problems are 'because of crime'.

There's also foreign purchasing in San Fran that probably is driving up housing costs - but you can say the same about NYC, LA, Miami, and Chicago. And if this is your grievance - what level of government do you propose will solve it...and what is the constituency of politicians who will support solving it>

I don’t buy your assertions about lower crime rates and drug usage. The last two reports I heard from people who visited within the last couple of months: one had his car broken into on his first night in the city, and the other said the whole place smelled like weed and there were homeless people everywhere. I’d love to offer you a firsthand account but I see no need to go back there ever again.

Yes we know that you don’t believe in math but facts are facts. San Francisco has one of the safest metro areas in the country. Rural counties are far more dangerous than San Francisco. The only reason why people feel otherwise is due to right wing lies and propaganda. Data and facts show the true picture tjat rural areas are far more dangerous than big city regions.

Deaths from selected external causes* per 100K population, 2020
Big Horn county, MT: 168.4
Calhoun County, MS: 161.5
Phillips County, AR: 138.7

San Francisco-Oakland Metropolitan Area: 16.9

Source: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
*Of the 997 counties for which the CDC reported mortality rates for 2020. All external causes except accidental poisoning, intentional self-harm, falls, complications of medical and surgical care and sequelae of external causes of morbidity and mortality

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-06-07/is-new-york-city-more-dangerous-than-rural-america

There is a reason businesses are leaving.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

"Crime is worse than the data shows," Charles "Cully" Stimson, Heritage Foundation senior legal fellow and former prosecutor in San Francisco, told Fox News Digital.

"People do not report these crimes because when you have a DA who's pro criminal and not going to enforce the law, the cops aren't going to go out and arrest somebody when they know the case is going to be no papered."

The first problem, according to Stimson, was the election of a Soros-backed D.A. with a reputation as soft of crime.

Stimson was referring to former San Francisco District Attorney George Gascón, who served in that role from January 2011 until October 2019. Stimson argued that Gascón's term ushered in a new era of rising crime in San Francisco, which had been experiencing nearly two decades of tumbling crime rates at the same time as many other major cities across the country.

Stimson argued that as Gascón's policies started to take hold in the city, crime started to rise around 2015 and 2016. The city's residents got no reprieve from the problem when Gascón left office, thanks to similar policies of former District Attorney Chesa Boudin from January 2020 until he was recalled in July 2022.

"Those policies include not prosecuting any misdemeanors, watering down most felonies to misdemeanors, not asking for long prison sentences even for people who are convicted of the worst crimes, never asking for bail," Stimson said.

Citing FBI and Justice Department data, Stimson pointed out that in the five years before Gascón took office in 2011, there were 757 reported rapes, an average of 151 per year, in San Francisco. But in Gascón's last five years in office, the city had a total of 1,731 reported rapes, or 346 per year.

"You always know with rape … the number of people actually raped is much higher than the number of people who report that they were raped," Stimson said.

He also pointed to aggravated assaults, which, in the five years before Gascón's tenure, tallied up to 11,921 reported incidents, or 2,384 per year. In the last five years of Gascón's term, that number jumped to 13,070, or 2,614 per year.

Such policies continued under the watch of Boudin, producing crime numbers that continued to hover well over pre-2011 rates.

San Francisco's crime issues did not stop with violent crime. The city has also had a surge of retail thefts that have forced many businesses to close their doors in recent years.

"Gascón and Boudin refused to prosecute retail thefts," Stimson said, citing a policy in which retails thefts under $1,000 went unprosecuted.

"You've seen the videos of people just engaging in the five-finger discount, walking into Target, walking into Nordstrom Rack … and just walking out during daylight with $950 worth of stuff," Stimson said. "They refused to prosecute any of that."

The lack of any serious threat of prosecution led many city residents and businesses to stop reporting the crimes altogether, a reality that has resulted in what is likely a vast undercount of such crimes in available statistics, he claimed.

lol, sure

[Anonymous]

Quality of life there gas deteriorated. No amount of gaslighting can change that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much of San Francisco’s housing problem was caused by unregulated foreign money in real estate. We need to stop selling our country to other countries and non-citizens.

Do you really think that a passed-out drug addict lying on the sidewalk would be all that much better off with a roof over his head? Any apartment you put him in would be a filthy wreck within a month. SF has a drug and crime problem that dwarfs other issues like a housing shortage.

But San Francisco actually has a far lower crime rate than many other cities - same with residents with substance abuse problems.

San Francisco has many problems to be solved - but one issue it does NOT have is being a uniquely unsafe city when it comes to crime rates. That doesn't mean that San Francisco shouldn't address the crime in the city that his harming residents - but it's false to suggest that San Francisco's problems are 'because of crime'.

There's also foreign purchasing in San Fran that probably is driving up housing costs - but you can say the same about NYC, LA, Miami, and Chicago. And if this is your grievance - what level of government do you propose will solve it...and what is the constituency of politicians who will support solving it>

When you stop arresting people that commit crime (e.g. people who walk into walgreens take a whole bunch of stuff and simply walk out), of course your rate of crime appears to be 'lower'. There are many ways to manipulate crime stats. But the fact that whole foods had to close in my not like a year due to outrageous levels of theft and safety issues speaks volumes. Now residents are left with a food desert.

Wrong. You can’t hide statistical death rates by not arresting people. Death rates are far higher in rural right wing areas.

Death rates are only one indicator of crime.

The crime you’re ignoring are things like theft and car break ins. They have become rampant in SF, and they are not victimless crimes. The police don’t even bother to come out, so they go severely underreported on any official statistics.

This is the day to day stuff that contributes to the sense of lawlessness.

Look at how the conservatives contort themselves to argue their BS! Move those goalposts!

I thought we were discussing actual crime but now it’s all about a “sense of lawlessness” that is the main problem? Facts be damned! How can anyone define or measure your vague “sense” in the first place? Yep, you may die a violent death in Montana but we should really be focused on San Fran and the fuzzy gut feelings of random internet person who hates democrats. They can’t prove it or show any evidence but they are certain that it’s happening because their friend told them. Or Tucker.