Want 99% assurance your lost child will be okay? Have him/her run to a lady

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I believe that most male abductors are known to the family. So in the situation you described, which is potential abduction by a stranger, the statistics may not bear out.

Yes but pedophiles and abductors are opportunists. If they should be so "lucky" as to have a child come to them for help, the results are rater.... predictable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nobody has ever been hurt or abused by a woman.

I hope this is a bad joke.
I was abused by a woman.

And most of the people that abduct babies are women.

which is why i gave my infant the instructions to roll his carriage over to a man if he couldn't see me.

We're talking about children. Children (not babies) are abducted primarily by men. You play your game, and I'll play mine, but mine has better odds.

[Anonymous]

All of you who are jumping on the 17 yo skier - are you skiers? I skied for many years. I am also a back country camper/backpacker. Conditions on the slopes can be quite primitive and sometimes isolating. Not to mention fing freezing! If I saw a little kid lost in a snowbank/wooded area there is NO way I would leave them up there while I tried to find help. The skier absolutely did the right thing. Have you ever seen the signs "tonight this mountain will be as cold and lonely as it was 5,000 years ago.... DO NOT SKI ALONE".

Skiing is a VERY different situation than a dept. store or other "civilized" area.

How does a parent accidentally lose a kid on a ski slope??????

[Anonymous]

So, if your child got lost, few of you would tell him/her to approach a man - quite possibly a father - with young children?

[Anonymous]

I wouldn't. I will use "find a mommy" knowing that my very young child might find a woman even if she is without children. "Find a daddy" might likewise translate into "find any man" and I would prefer she approach a woman. Most men are perfectly safe and helpful just as most women are, but we're talking about keeping the message here and playing the safety odds. It's easier to remember one simple slogan and it's safer for your child to approach a woman. In no way do I distrust most men nor will I teach my child to fear men, but it's safer for your child to approach a female when they are approaching a stranger.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, if your child got lost, few of you would tell him/her to approach a man - quite possibly a father - with young children?

No, but that's because it might take my kid 10 times as long to find a father with kids. It's life. You see more women with kids (at amusement parks, aquariums, the mall, etc) then men.

As for expecting the 17 year old to leave the kid there, I don't think that's what they meant. I would expect the 17 year old to simply start shouting for help and stay with the kid, not take him down another hill. No one suggested just leaving the kid.

[Anonymous]

I would hardly call this 99% assurance. Most abuse comes from people known to the child. Also, not all abuse by strangers happens when they find a child wandering around.

I would bet the stranger who happens to also be an abuser/pedophile finding a lost child is already less than 1% of abuse scenarios.

You can't always protect your kids, but no one wants to accept that. I speak from personal experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nobody has ever been hurt or abused by a woman.

I hope this is a bad joke.
I was abused by a woman.

And most of the people that abduct babies are women.

which is why i gave my infant the instructions to roll his carriage over to a man if he couldn't see me.

We're talking about children. Children (not babies) are abducted primarily by men. You play your game, and I'll play mine, but mine has better odds.

You're such a jerk!
My point was that bad people can come with a penis or a vagina.
It doesn't matter the gender or the sex.

[Anonymous]

I remember an episode of Criminal Minds where the dad used his son to kidnap women...
Scary!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nobody has ever been hurt or abused by a woman.

I hope this is a bad joke.
I was abused by a woman.

And most of the people that abduct babies are women.

which is why i gave my infant the instructions to roll his carriage over to a man if he couldn't see me.

We're talking about children. Children (not babies) are abducted primarily by men. You play your game, and I'll play mine, but mine has better odds.

You're such a jerk!
My point was that bad people can come with a penis or a vagina.
It doesn't matter the gender or the sex.

Let me ask you this. You need to ask directions driving down the street. Who are you flagging down for directions? Have you thought about whether you're doing any profiling in the process? Do you think you randomly choose?

It actually does matter the gender (I'm not sure how sex is different from gender, but that's another matter). I also am not having my child go over to a teenager. Is that unfair to the wonderful, mature teens out there? Maybe, but I'm just trying to give quick instructions to a kid. And my husband and I are okay with this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nobody has ever been hurt or abused by a woman.

I hope this is a bad joke.
I was abused by a woman.

And most of the people that abduct babies are women.

which is why i gave my infant the instructions to roll his carriage over to a man if he couldn't see me.

We're talking about children. Children (not babies) are abducted primarily by men. You play your game, and I'll play mine, but mine has better odds.

You're such a jerk!
My point was that bad people can come with a penis or a vagina.
It doesn't matter the gender or the sex.

Let me ask you this. You need to ask directions driving down the street. Who are you flagging down for directions? Have you thought about whether you're doing any profiling in the process? Do you think you randomly choose?

It actually does matter the gender (I'm not sure how sex is different from gender, but that's another matter). I also am not having my child go over to a teenager. Is that unfair to the wonderful, mature teens out there? Maybe, but I'm just trying to give quick instructions to a kid. And my husband and I are okay with this.

I just hope your child is not the one abused by the person you promised them would be a "safe choice".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I remember an episode of Criminal Minds where the dad used his son to kidnap women...
Scary!

OMG!

No wonder the divorce rate is so high and men cheat on their spouses!

What is wrong with you women?

Remember the thread about women freaking out b/c they didn't want their husbands to take their little girls into the men's room? ignorant, ignorant, ignorant!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, if your child got lost, few of you would tell him/her to approach a man - quite possibly a father - with young children?

No, but that's because it might take my kid 10 times as long to find a father with kids. It's life. You see more women with kids (at amusement parks, aquariums, the mall, etc) then men.

As for expecting the 17 year old to leave the kid there, I don't think that's what they meant. I would expect the 17 year old to simply start shouting for help and stay with the kid, not take him down another hill. No one suggested just leaving the kid.

Please

In this area, your child's more likely to flag down a drag queen.

[Anonymous]

wow, this thread has taken some odd turns. I also tell my kids to "find a mommy" and if they can't, to find a grandma (in their minds, an "older" woman). Since I had kids, I keep an eye out on little kids I see who look like they might be lost or need help or whose parents aren't keeping an eye on them (that's not a judgment, I know how easy it is to look away for a second and suddenly you have no clue where your kid is).

[Anonymous]

Can you imagine, you find a scared, cold, lost 4 YO alone on a ski slope.... and you LEAVE them there to go down the mt to tell patrol. I think the reaction you would get would be, 'What the HELL were you thinking to leave a lost little kid alone up there? Why didn't you bring them down with you????"

Personally I'd like to be able to live with myself after a situation like this. Leaving a little kid and hoping they can be found again and will be OK when help gets there is not something I'd want on me.... I'd rather bring them down and take the chance that some accusatory nut job is going to accuse me of being a kidnapper. Ridiculous.