Hilaria Baldwin - At it again

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I barely knew anything about this woman before other than some fleeting info on a celebrity news piece...I am familiar with the Baldwin brothers just through the years, and, lately, his SNL impressions of Trump (which I liked!) Anyway, I'm a youngish boomer, about Alec's age) so I'm looking at this maybe from a different perspective. I just do not see a story here and I feel that the original tweet and subsequent investigation created a story where there was none. Intrigued and not currently working, and bored from not doing my usual things, I delved into the pieces and "video evidence."

I don't think this woman, Hilaria, conned anyone. The Spanish culture lives largely in her home, very similarly to a lot of my family and friends who are Jewish. Why isn't this the same thing? We all grew up speaking two or three languages, English, Hebrew, and Yiddish- yet most of us have had never been to Israel until adults or at all. My family has a mild accent, and family members in New York really do, yet do not live in Israel. My family calls me by a different name, and many of my friends, who are not Israeli, and not Eastern European, had full-on Jewish weddings with food and drink and language and dress and custom. They've named their kids Hebrew names. They have Judaica artwork all over their houses. Some have visited Israel, some have not. Some have friends and family who live there, some do not.

Additionally, I know many families who have grandparents and great grandparents from Quebec. They also have French names, call their elders Mame and Pepe, and pepper their speech with various French words, and lot of art and food, despite NEVER HAVING LIVED THERE.
Have you watch any television in the last 20 years? What about Italians? RHONJ? I watched one season. For people who never lived in Italy, they sure spoke a lot of Italian,
discussed Italian food, family culture and mannerisms, and had houses filled with marble flooring and Tuscan kitchens.

I went to college with Greek friends who lived an exact lifestyle depicted in My Big Fat Greek wedding with only having great grandparents, or further down the line- great great grandparents, as the only people ever having lived in Greece.

On the one hand, people claim to want to embrace open borders, globalization, and the proverbial melting pot, but when people do, they are called out for cultural appropriation. Why? Being Spanish isn't a race. It doesn't even have to be an ethnicity. It's a country, and a language, with a culture. Isn't that what we are going for?

Look at their wedding. They both embraced a Spanish theme with both of their families there. If she were trying to convey a lie, (and what is the lie anyway?)would she be able to do that in front of her whole family? The wedding announcement had zero info that is untrue. Nothing was ever misappropriated. This family has embraced a Spanish culture for a lot of reasons pertaining to what she's embraced, or chosen, as a member of her family, looking at her father's resume and academic background, and that's that. Her parents felt comfortable enough to actually move there as young retirees. That didn't happen on a whim. Hilaria's Spanish is on par with native speakers. Their kids have Spanish names. Nothing wrong with it. DNA doesn't inform culture.

Nothing this Hilaria/Hillary has been featured in insinuates any lying, and I've taken a good look at the requisite videos, Hola article, her Mom's clip, everything. It seems that various people took out of context items and crocheted them into something that isn't with a pretty accusatory outcome...and it looks like online bullying, unfortunately, which is something I do know about having taught middle and high school. This is nothing less than that and it's very alarming.

Furthermore, there seems to be years worth of bullying regarding her supposed "gold digging " and motives for marrying. I guess that goes with the territory of marrying a celebrity. I'm pretty sure their days look no different than yours, they just have more money to handle it. Sorry! If I were a gold digger, I doubt I would proceed to have 5 kids with a man 25+ years my senior. She loves him. I also notice that her high school friends speak highly of her, no one is calling her out. They are only clarifying questions. Come on. Find something else to hate- maybe that she looks that good after baby#5. I will never look that good, and it's been 35 years since I had a baby.

In summary, stop this "meshuga" bull$#!++, says this woman who can speak Yiddish fairly well, yet holds 0% DNA in anything allowing me to. I wish this family well. Move on.





“I barely know anything about her” - here is a dissertation on the situation and history.


I guess this is where comprehension comes into play and just exactly how most of these people create stories where there isn't one.
Read, if you only would:

I barely knew anything about this woman before other than some fleeting info on a celebrity news piece...

Intrigued and not currently working, and bored from not doing my usual things, I delved into the pieces and "video evidence.


Pretty sure I indicated what most people here have, that she's not really on anyone's radar. For the record, I am in my 60s, so I could give zero crap about babies, her parenting advice, back to body yoga...pretty sure I mentioned that,too.
Then, I mentioned that I did start to read all the stuff, watched the videos, etc., after this erupted- out of sheer curiosity and this endless and pointless thread based upon nothing. The result is my opinion. You might not even recognize a dissertation, sweetheart.

Your issue? Zero attention span, reduced only to small items of text, tweets, and retweets, with opinion, not fact, guiding your entire critical thinking ( or lack thereof) with which you draw conclusions- as you did with my post and most certainly with this story.

What you are good at is trolling only, which very often has terrible consequences for those you decide to make your victims. Grow the f---- up.



So, the problem here may actually be that while you are parroting the "short attention span" sound byte she wants to be parroted, you are pretty inaccurate in saying that false conclusions were drawn based on extrapolations of phrases from tweets and texts. It's more like when Donald Trump says something and then says "no, I didn't" and lots of people just believe him because they want to.

I've followed her for a few years actually. I was taken with her claim of curing her own eating disorder through mindfulness and got her book, followed her Instagram, and listened to her podcasts. It became clear to me very early on she was still very disordered (both related to food and especially exercise) but I kept following/listening because I saw some of myself there (wanting to be better but not being better). But then it was pretty easy to also see she wasn't inconsistent just there so this thread was not much of a surprise. Her own words, written and during podcasts, are plenty damning that she was either trying to be someone else or really wanted to be and often just said what she wished was true vs. what is actually true. It might take an attention span and actually listening to recorded interviews to hear it but it's not subtle.

You don't have to approve of how others are dealing with the information or the glee that some seem to get from it. But don't parrot the attention span line and expect to change any minds that way.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hilaria's mother was not a "professor at Harvard Medical School." She supervised a few residents at Mass General. My mother-in-law knew her.


Whaaa?????


I had heard something along these lines as well but can’t remember the course so didn’t post it.


Oh my God. This just keeps getting stranger. And as I saw another comment - the grifter doesn’t fall far from the tree. She LEARNED this type of behavior. And here I was thinking maybe she was like seriously abused, maybe she was just not the way I think of. Holy shit.


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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What have we learned here-

People do not understand the difference between ethnicity, culture, and race. Very few people even understand what cultural appropriation actually is, so they have no idea when they see it. This story is not an example, in any way, of cultural appropriation. We already know that so many people do not understand history and the ramifications of not knowing it.

Social media is not current affairs. Social media is not reality- it is a tool. Tools can be productive or dangerous.

When a lack of education becomes dangerous, it's time to stop. What is happening here is dangerous.


+1
Lordy...I only follow my teen daughter on Instagram and I have FB...no other social media account. First time I’m witnessing anything like this pile on online, is this common behavior?






Hilaria exploits her own children which doesn't sit well with good mothers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hilaria's mother was not a "professor at Harvard Medical School." She supervised a few residents at Mass General. My mother-in-law knew her.


Whaaa?????


I had heard something along these lines as well but can’t remember the course so didn’t post it.


Oh my God. This just keeps getting stranger. And as I saw another comment - the grifter doesn’t fall far from the tree. She LEARNED this type of behavior. And here I was thinking maybe she was like seriously abused, maybe she was just not the way I think of. Holy shit.


Kathryn Hayward, MD co-founded and developed International Integrators because she loves to collaborate with others who share her vision for global integrative health. She brings to International Integrators her experience in the practice of conventional medicine as a primary care internist, and in integrative health, as well as her connection to the natural world. Kathryn marvels at the power of collective, conscious action on the part of like-minded individuals to manifest change, and loves contributing to that action.

"Kathryn changed my life. She taught me a new way to see the world and a new way to see myself. Kathryn empowers you to take control of your own fate, and to create the life you want." ~ testimonial

https://internationalintegrators.org/kathryn-hayward/


They are ALL looney toons
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What have we learned here-

People do not understand the difference between ethnicity, culture, and race. Very few people even understand what cultural appropriation actually is, so they have no idea when they see it. This story is not an example, in any way, of cultural appropriation. We already know that so many people do not understand history and the ramifications of not knowing it.

Social media is not current affairs. Social media is not reality- it is a tool. Tools can be productive or dangerous.

When a lack of education becomes dangerous, it's time to stop. What is happening here is dangerous.


+1
Lordy...I only follow my teen daughter on Instagram and I have FB...no other social media account. First time I’m witnessing anything like this pile on online, is this common behavior?






Hilaria exploits her own children which doesn't sit well with good mothers.


+10000000
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I barely knew anything about this woman before other than some fleeting info on a celebrity news piece...I am familiar with the Baldwin brothers just through the years, and, lately, his SNL impressions of Trump (which I liked!) Anyway, I'm a youngish boomer, about Alec's age) so I'm looking at this maybe from a different perspective. I just do not see a story here and I feel that the original tweet and subsequent investigation created a story where there was none. Intrigued and not currently working, and bored from not doing my usual things, I delved into the pieces and "video evidence."

I don't think this woman, Hilaria, conned anyone. The Spanish culture lives largely in her home, very similarly to a lot of my family and friends who are Jewish. Why isn't this the same thing? We all grew up speaking two or three languages, English, Hebrew, and Yiddish- yet most of us have had never been to Israel until adults or at all. My family has a mild accent, and family members in New York really do, yet do not live in Israel. My family calls me by a different name, and many of my friends, who are not Israeli, and not Eastern European, had full-on Jewish weddings with food and drink and language and dress and custom. They've named their kids Hebrew names. They have Judaica artwork all over their houses. Some have visited Israel, some have not. Some have friends and family who live there, some do not.


Er....do any of your non-Jewish friends had Jewish weddings? Pretended to be Jewish? Said, in Israel WE do things differently?

I am struck by how you aren't able to see a difference between someone living a true heritage vs. an invented one.


Yes, this. I am Indian American, born and raised in the US, but I’ve lived in India for a year and a half. Even so - I do not say, “In India, WE eat this”. I would say that about America but not India. I also lived in the UK for years but would not say, “In the UK, we do this”. I would always say “they”.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I barely knew anything about this woman before other than some fleeting info on a celebrity news piece...I am familiar with the Baldwin brothers just through the years, and, lately, his SNL impressions of Trump (which I liked!) Anyway, I'm a youngish boomer, about Alec's age) so I'm looking at this maybe from a different perspective. I just do not see a story here and I feel that the original tweet and subsequent investigation created a story where there was none. Intrigued and not currently working, and bored from not doing my usual things, I delved into the pieces and "video evidence."

I don't think this woman, Hilaria, conned anyone. The Spanish culture lives largely in her home, very similarly to a lot of my family and friends who are Jewish. Why isn't this the same thing? We all grew up speaking two or three languages, English, Hebrew, and Yiddish- yet most of us have had never been to Israel until adults or at all. My family has a mild accent, and family members in New York really do, yet do not live in Israel. My family calls me by a different name, and many of my friends, who are not Israeli, and not Eastern European, had full-on Jewish weddings with food and drink and language and dress and custom. They've named their kids Hebrew names. They have Judaica artwork all over their houses. Some have visited Israel, some have not. Some have friends and family who live there, some do not.


Er....do any of your non-Jewish friends had Jewish weddings? Pretended to be Jewish? Said, in Israel WE do things differently?

I am struck by how you aren't able to see a difference between someone living a true heritage vs. an invented one.


Yes, this. I am Indian American, born and raised in the US, but I’ve lived in India for a year and a half. Even so - I do not say, “In India, WE eat this”. I would say that about America but not India. I also lived in the UK for years but would not say, “In the UK, we do this”. I would always say “they”.


That is because you have integrity, unlike Hilary or Alec
Anonymous
The "short attention span" bit is so insulting. First she lies, and then when you notice the lie, she makes a thinly veiled insult at your intelligence. I really doubt that is working with many people. Most of us will take stock of our lives and realize something like, gee, I don't think I would have been able to achieve academic and career success if this were true. So I'm pretty sure that my eyes and ears are not deceiving me and she definitely said and did these things, and I don't lack for attention span. And to the extent that my focus could use improvement, I would choose to expend it on better knowing the life and times of Hilaria Baldwin. The basic facts are quite clear-- she feigned an accent and lied about her background and she is choosing not to tell the truth. Not sure why I should be like, oh that's cool, I'll accept that lie.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:C'mon. There's a difference between me clinging to/admiring/enjoying/reliving with my elders aspects of my inherited culture and pretending I lived half time in Ireland and have an Irish accent. How do you Yanks say "Liar" again?


Hilaria.


Her new name is "hiLIARia."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What have we learned here-

People do not understand the difference between ethnicity, culture, and race. Very few people even understand what cultural appropriation actually is, so they have no idea when they see it. This story is not an example, in any way, of cultural appropriation. We already know that so many people do not understand history and the ramifications of not knowing it.

Social media is not current affairs. Social media is not reality- it is a tool. Tools can be productive or dangerous.

When a lack of education becomes dangerous, it's time to stop. What is happening here is dangerous.


+1
Lordy...I only follow my teen daughter on Instagram and I have FB...no other social media account. First time I’m witnessing anything like this pile on online, is this common behavior?


+2 This pile on / hysteria is ridiculous and frivolous.


And yet...here you are piling on and bumping the thread.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hilaria's mother was not a "professor at Harvard Medical School." She supervised a few residents at Mass General. My mother-in-law knew her.


Whaaa?????


In defense of the mother, my husband was at Beth Israel when we lived in Boston and did the same and everyone who supervised residents was called associate professor at Harvard. Her mom was a legit doctor with a career.
Anonymous
New to this thread. I read Katie Rosman's piece in the NYT where Hilaria tries to redeem herself. I love how Rosman just puts the quotes and facts out there knowing how they will come off.

Hilaria def has some sort of personality disorder. Nothing is her fault. Everyone is to blame or stupid if they don't understand her and her 'boundaries'. Gaslighting to the max.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hilaria's mother was not a "professor at Harvard Medical School." She supervised a few residents at Mass General. My mother-in-law knew her.


Whaaa?????


In defense of the mother, my husband was at Beth Israel when we lived in Boston and did the same and everyone who supervised residents was called associate professor at Harvard. Her mom was a legit doctor with a career.


It doesn't appear that the parents are contributing to this scandal. At least they haven't fooled us, the public.
Anonymous
Accent comes and goes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKqewOptQU8
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hilaria's mother was not a "professor at Harvard Medical School." She supervised a few residents at Mass General. My mother-in-law knew her.


Whaaa?????


In defense of the mother, my husband was at Beth Israel when we lived in Boston and did the same and everyone who supervised residents was called associate professor at Harvard. Her mom was a legit doctor with a career.


Agree with this
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