New TJ principal announced

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Anonymous wrote:I am hopeful that the new principal can keep the low stress environment without abandoning rigor.

For a change, the new principal has STEM background. Merit is back, beginning with the new principal.


Bonitatibus has a computer science background.

Maybe for a change you can try to post something truthful?



She has a what?

It says she graduated from indiana university of pennsylvania in communications education.

Nothing about computer science, english or math. I'm not saying you need a degree to teach those subjects at the high school level but just saying you have a background in computer science doesn't make it so.

I think she is perfectly well qualified to be a principal of a base school but TJ needs a principal that understands gifted education and why it is not a waste of taxpayer money like so many on DCUM seem to think.



If you can say that he “has a STEM background”, then you can say that about her as well.

Both studied STEM in college; both went directly into teaching; both taught math in the past.

He did more STEM in college but that doesn’t mean she did zero.


Does a college student who takes a required distributional course in "physics for poets" count as studying STEM in college by your definition?


She did enough to be qualified to teach math and has mentioned her background in computer science in college.

Is she the STEMiest person out there? No. But she does have a “STEM background” if we are considering his background to be a “STEM background” (AKA studied and taught STEM topics decades ago).


Looks like you are having a hard time accepting it. But FCPS is letting her go due to poor performance.


They didn’t let her go. She received a promotion.

I have no problem with the transition - Mukai sounds great. I just hate liars.

Moved to a back office role, no one hears about or cares. Just glad TJ is turning the corner with qualified leadership.



Bonitatibus is qualified.



She has lost the confidence of the students, the faculty and the parents. She could no longer be effective in her role. She chose political alignment with the FCPS board over the mission of the school.


#fakenews She was a great principal who did great things for TJ and the county.


She facilitated a push to change admission standards that discriminated against asians.
Asians constituted the overwhelming majority of her students and families.
The asians at at TJ either hate her or hate their own race.


Fake news from RWNJ trolls.

No discrimination.

Many Asian people, including TJ students and alum, support the change.


It's so laughable really. I mean the school is majority Asian. Asian enrollment is at a historic high and the largest beneficiaries of the change were again Asians.


Asians are the only racial group[ thaty saw a decline in admissions.


You mean, Asian students from affluent families.

The Asian students from low-income families saw the biggest increase in representation.


When you data scrape subsets of data to find a subset that supports your argument, you have a weak argument.
We measure racial discrimination along racial lines and you are using a subset of a racial group that has seen an increase.
The racial group that saw the largest increase were white students.
The only group that saw a decrease were asian students.
This was by design.


Since we are talking about the analysis in the court case — the justices called out the low-income students as highest beneficiaries — the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students also saw huge increases in representation.

If we also look at actual enrollment and yield, we see that white students didn’t have the largest increase, even though they make up the plurality. They just aren’t as interested in TJ - lower application and acceptance rates.


Circuit court judges are not called justices.
They were looking for reasons to avoid acknowledging the racial discrimination.

When you analyze racial discrimination, you look at the racial group, you don't pore over the data until you find some subset of that discriminated group that did better than average.

If we are talking about racial discrimination in admissions, we look at admissions data, not matriculation data.


Again, the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students saw huge increases in representation.

Before the change, the admission rate for black students was 25% of the admission rate for Asian students. Then, went up to 75% after the change. Still less than the 80% guideline.

The disparate impact for black students has lessened significantly but still remains after the change.

So by your explanation this admissions change is nothing but racial percentage manipulation.


No, the admissions change was about opening up TJ to all middle schools.

You were the one who posted about the racial manipulation that happened with the admissions change. But when you're called out, you start lying, claiming it's about opening it to middle schools—when it was always open. Then you start blaming the top four middle school students as rich kids. All your posts are repeat this BS.


We have been discussing many different aspects of the admissions change and you are misrepresenting what was said.

Discrimination:
**The current admissions process does not discriminate against Asian students.
**The old admissions process did present disparate impact for black students when you compared the admissions rate for those kids vs. Asian kids (25% is far below the 80% guideline).

Admissions process:
**The feeder schools have significantly more wealthy families than the MSs which had zero representation before the change.
**The old admissions process presented many hurdles that made it more difficult for kids from lower-income families to navigate and successfully compete.
**The number and rate of kids admitted to the pool (and TJ) was generally lower for kids who attended MSs with higher FRE %s.
**For the class of 2024, there was less than 1% of the admitted class who came from lower-income families.
**The current process allocates a handful of seats to all MSs so that there is a higher chance that kids from MSs with high FRE % will be admitted, increasing representation from kids across the county.



Discrimination:
**The current process was a result of a race focused conversation about racial representation at TJ. If there is discriminatory intent behind the change then you don't analyze it the same way.
**Academic ability is not equally distributed between races. The 80% guideline is not relevant here. You should not see the 80% rule invoked in any of the opinions.

Admissions process:
**Academic ability is not evenly distributed geographically
**Removing the $100 application fee was a great idea. Removing the test was not.
**Academic ability is not evenly distributed economically.
**The current process allocates 450 out of 550 seats based on geography.


That is why the current majority of TJ students now (under new admission) is still coming from certain wealthy area, and the farms number is also still very low (at 12%).
I don't have a say if you are still mad because you are expecting 0% farms (aka your ideology that poor smart student does not exist).


I was a poor smart student. I went to a school full of poor smart students.
The entire school was selected based on the results of a single exam.
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Anonymous wrote:I am hopeful that the new principal can keep the low stress environment without abandoning rigor.

For a change, the new principal has STEM background. Merit is back, beginning with the new principal.


Bonitatibus has a computer science background.

Maybe for a change you can try to post something truthful?



She has a what?

It says she graduated from indiana university of pennsylvania in communications education.

Nothing about computer science, english or math. I'm not saying you need a degree to teach those subjects at the high school level but just saying you have a background in computer science doesn't make it so.

I think she is perfectly well qualified to be a principal of a base school but TJ needs a principal that understands gifted education and why it is not a waste of taxpayer money like so many on DCUM seem to think.



If you can say that he “has a STEM background”, then you can say that about her as well.

Both studied STEM in college; both went directly into teaching; both taught math in the past.

He did more STEM in college but that doesn’t mean she did zero.


Does a college student who takes a required distributional course in "physics for poets" count as studying STEM in college by your definition?


She did enough to be qualified to teach math and has mentioned her background in computer science in college.

Is she the STEMiest person out there? No. But she does have a “STEM background” if we are considering his background to be a “STEM background” (AKA studied and taught STEM topics decades ago).


Looks like you are having a hard time accepting it. But FCPS is letting her go due to poor performance.


They didn’t let her go. She received a promotion.

I have no problem with the transition - Mukai sounds great. I just hate liars.

Moved to a back office role, no one hears about or cares. Just glad TJ is turning the corner with qualified leadership.



Bonitatibus is qualified.



She has lost the confidence of the students, the faculty and the parents. She could no longer be effective in her role. She chose political alignment with the FCPS board over the mission of the school.


#fakenews She was a great principal who did great things for TJ and the county.


She facilitated a push to change admission standards that discriminated against asians.
Asians constituted the overwhelming majority of her students and families.
The asians at at TJ either hate her or hate their own race.


Fake news from RWNJ trolls.

No discrimination.

Many Asian people, including TJ students and alum, support the change.


It's so laughable really. I mean the school is majority Asian. Asian enrollment is at a historic high and the largest beneficiaries of the change were again Asians.


Asians are the only racial group[ thaty saw a decline in admissions.


You mean, Asian students from affluent families.

The Asian students from low-income families saw the biggest increase in representation.


When you data scrape subsets of data to find a subset that supports your argument, you have a weak argument.
We measure racial discrimination along racial lines and you are using a subset of a racial group that has seen an increase.
The racial group that saw the largest increase were white students.
The only group that saw a decrease were asian students.
This was by design.


Since we are talking about the analysis in the court case — the justices called out the low-income students as highest beneficiaries — the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students also saw huge increases in representation.

If we also look at actual enrollment and yield, we see that white students didn’t have the largest increase, even though they make up the plurality. They just aren’t as interested in TJ - lower application and acceptance rates.


Circuit court judges are not called justices.
They were looking for reasons to avoid acknowledging the racial discrimination.

When you analyze racial discrimination, you look at the racial group, you don't pore over the data until you find some subset of that discriminated group that did better than average.

If we are talking about racial discrimination in admissions, we look at admissions data, not matriculation data.


Again, the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students saw huge increases in representation.

Before the change, the admission rate for black students was 25% of the admission rate for Asian students. Then, went up to 75% after the change. Still less than the 80% guideline.

The disparate impact for black students has lessened significantly but still remains after the change.

So by your explanation this admissions change is nothing but racial percentage manipulation.


No, the admissions change was about opening up TJ to all middle schools.

You were the one who posted about the racial manipulation that happened with the admissions change. But when you're called out, you start lying, claiming it's about opening it to middle schools—when it was always open. Then you start blaming the top four middle school students as rich kids. All your posts are repeat this BS.


We have been discussing many different aspects of the admissions change and you are misrepresenting what was said.

Discrimination:
**The current admissions process does not discriminate against Asian students.
**The old admissions process did present disparate impact for black students when you compared the admissions rate for those kids vs. Asian kids (25% is far below the 80% guideline).

Admissions process:
**The feeder schools have significantly more wealthy families than the MSs which had zero representation before the change.
**The old admissions process presented many hurdles that made it more difficult for kids from lower-income families to navigate and successfully compete.
**The number and rate of kids admitted to the pool (and TJ) was generally lower for kids who attended MSs with higher FRE %s.
**For the class of 2024, there was less than 1% of the admitted class who came from lower-income families.
**The current process allocates a handful of seats to all MSs so that there is a higher chance that kids from MSs with high FRE % will be admitted, increasing representation from kids across the county.



Discrimination:
**The current process was a result of a race focused conversation about racial representation at TJ. If there is discriminatory intent behind the change then you don't analyze it the same way.
**Academic ability is not equally distributed between races. The 80% guideline is not relevant here. You should not see the 80% rule invoked in any of the opinions.

Admissions process:
**Academic ability is not evenly distributed geographically
**Removing the $100 application fee was a great idea. Removing the test was not.
**Academic ability is not evenly distributed economically.
**The current process allocates 450 out of 550 seats based on geography.


An education circles. This is considered a best practice for selection to elite programs like TJ.


Education circles are woke AF and think their mission is social justice instead of actual education.



Educators want to educate ALL kids and lift up the kids who need extra help.

That's why "woke educators" like the E3 Alliance are pushing to get MORE kids into advanced math.



The education departments offering PhDs in education are woke AF and view their mission as social justice not actual education.

I'm sure there are some educators somewhere tghat actually believe in education but they are not the ones teaching education at the graduate levels.
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Anonymous wrote:I am hopeful that the new principal can keep the low stress environment without abandoning rigor.

For a change, the new principal has STEM background. Merit is back, beginning with the new principal.


Bonitatibus has a computer science background.

Maybe for a change you can try to post something truthful?



She has a what?

It says she graduated from indiana university of pennsylvania in communications education.

Nothing about computer science, english or math. I'm not saying you need a degree to teach those subjects at the high school level but just saying you have a background in computer science doesn't make it so.

I think she is perfectly well qualified to be a principal of a base school but TJ needs a principal that understands gifted education and why it is not a waste of taxpayer money like so many on DCUM seem to think.



If you can say that he “has a STEM background”, then you can say that about her as well.

Both studied STEM in college; both went directly into teaching; both taught math in the past.

He did more STEM in college but that doesn’t mean she did zero.


Does a college student who takes a required distributional course in "physics for poets" count as studying STEM in college by your definition?


She did enough to be qualified to teach math and has mentioned her background in computer science in college.

Is she the STEMiest person out there? No. But she does have a “STEM background” if we are considering his background to be a “STEM background” (AKA studied and taught STEM topics decades ago).


Looks like you are having a hard time accepting it. But FCPS is letting her go due to poor performance.


They didn’t let her go. She received a promotion.

I have no problem with the transition - Mukai sounds great. I just hate liars.

Moved to a back office role, no one hears about or cares. Just glad TJ is turning the corner with qualified leadership.



Bonitatibus is qualified.



She has lost the confidence of the students, the faculty and the parents. She could no longer be effective in her role. She chose political alignment with the FCPS board over the mission of the school.


#fakenews She was a great principal who did great things for TJ and the county.


She facilitated a push to change admission standards that discriminated against asians.
Asians constituted the overwhelming majority of her students and families.
The asians at at TJ either hate her or hate their own race.


Fake news from RWNJ trolls.

No discrimination.

Many Asian people, including TJ students and alum, support the change.


It's so laughable really. I mean the school is majority Asian. Asian enrollment is at a historic high and the largest beneficiaries of the change were again Asians.


Asians are the only racial group[ thaty saw a decline in admissions.


You mean, Asian students from affluent families.

The Asian students from low-income families saw the biggest increase in representation.


When you data scrape subsets of data to find a subset that supports your argument, you have a weak argument.
We measure racial discrimination along racial lines and you are using a subset of a racial group that has seen an increase.
The racial group that saw the largest increase were white students.
The only group that saw a decrease were asian students.
This was by design.


Since we are talking about the analysis in the court case — the justices called out the low-income students as highest beneficiaries — the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students also saw huge increases in representation.

If we also look at actual enrollment and yield, we see that white students didn’t have the largest increase, even though they make up the plurality. They just aren’t as interested in TJ - lower application and acceptance rates.


Circuit court judges are not called justices.
They were looking for reasons to avoid acknowledging the racial discrimination.

When you analyze racial discrimination, you look at the racial group, you don't pore over the data until you find some subset of that discriminated group that did better than average.

If we are talking about racial discrimination in admissions, we look at admissions data, not matriculation data.


Again, the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students saw huge increases in representation.

Before the change, the admission rate for black students was 25% of the admission rate for Asian students. Then, went up to 75% after the change. Still less than the 80% guideline.

The disparate impact for black students has lessened significantly but still remains after the change.

So by your explanation this admissions change is nothing but racial percentage manipulation.


No, the admissions change was about opening up TJ to all middle schools.

You were the one who posted about the racial manipulation that happened with the admissions change. But when you're called out, you start lying, claiming it's about opening it to middle schools—when it was always open. Then you start blaming the top four middle school students as rich kids. All your posts are repeat this BS.


We have been discussing many different aspects of the admissions change and you are misrepresenting what was said.

Discrimination:
**The current admissions process does not discriminate against Asian students.
**The old admissions process did present disparate impact for black students when you compared the admissions rate for those kids vs. Asian kids (25% is far below the 80% guideline).

Admissions process:
**The feeder schools have significantly more wealthy families than the MSs which had zero representation before the change.
**The old admissions process presented many hurdles that made it more difficult for kids from lower-income families to navigate and successfully compete.
**The number and rate of kids admitted to the pool (and TJ) was generally lower for kids who attended MSs with higher FRE %s.
**For the class of 2024, there was less than 1% of the admitted class who came from lower-income families.
**The current process allocates a handful of seats to all MSs so that there is a higher chance that kids from MSs with high FRE % will be admitted, increasing representation from kids across the county.



Discrimination:
**The current process was a result of a race focused conversation about racial representation at TJ. If there is discriminatory intent behind the change then you don't analyze it the same way.
**Academic ability is not equally distributed between races. The 80% guideline is not relevant here. You should not see the 80% rule invoked in any of the opinions.

Admissions process:
**Academic ability is not evenly distributed geographically
**Removing the $100 application fee was a great idea. Removing the test was not.
**Academic ability is not evenly distributed economically.
**The current process allocates 450 out of 550 seats based on geography.


That is why the current majority of TJ students now (under new admission) is still coming from certain wealthy area, and the farms number is also still very low (at 12%).
I don't have a say if you are still mad because you are expecting 0% farms (aka your ideology that poor smart student does not exist).


I was a poor smart student. I went to a school full of poor smart students.
The entire school was selected based on the results of a single exam.

but what about racial diversity? did the exam also pick the most deserving from each racial group among the applicants?
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Anonymous wrote:I am hopeful that the new principal can keep the low stress environment without abandoning rigor.

For a change, the new principal has STEM background. Merit is back, beginning with the new principal.


Bonitatibus has a computer science background.

Maybe for a change you can try to post something truthful?



She has a what?

It says she graduated from indiana university of pennsylvania in communications education.

Nothing about computer science, english or math. I'm not saying you need a degree to teach those subjects at the high school level but just saying you have a background in computer science doesn't make it so.

I think she is perfectly well qualified to be a principal of a base school but TJ needs a principal that understands gifted education and why it is not a waste of taxpayer money like so many on DCUM seem to think.



If you can say that he “has a STEM background”, then you can say that about her as well.

Both studied STEM in college; both went directly into teaching; both taught math in the past.

He did more STEM in college but that doesn’t mean she did zero.


Does a college student who takes a required distributional course in "physics for poets" count as studying STEM in college by your definition?


She did enough to be qualified to teach math and has mentioned her background in computer science in college.

Is she the STEMiest person out there? No. But she does have a “STEM background” if we are considering his background to be a “STEM background” (AKA studied and taught STEM topics decades ago).


Looks like you are having a hard time accepting it. But FCPS is letting her go due to poor performance.


They didn’t let her go. She received a promotion.

I have no problem with the transition - Mukai sounds great. I just hate liars.

Moved to a back office role, no one hears about or cares. Just glad TJ is turning the corner with qualified leadership.



Bonitatibus is qualified.



She has lost the confidence of the students, the faculty and the parents. She could no longer be effective in her role. She chose political alignment with the FCPS board over the mission of the school.


#fakenews She was a great principal who did great things for TJ and the county.


She facilitated a push to change admission standards that discriminated against asians.
Asians constituted the overwhelming majority of her students and families.
The asians at at TJ either hate her or hate their own race.


Fake news from RWNJ trolls.

No discrimination.

Many Asian people, including TJ students and alum, support the change.


It's so laughable really. I mean the school is majority Asian. Asian enrollment is at a historic high and the largest beneficiaries of the change were again Asians.


Asians are the only racial group[ thaty saw a decline in admissions.


You mean, Asian students from affluent families.

The Asian students from low-income families saw the biggest increase in representation.


When you data scrape subsets of data to find a subset that supports your argument, you have a weak argument.
We measure racial discrimination along racial lines and you are using a subset of a racial group that has seen an increase.
The racial group that saw the largest increase were white students.
The only group that saw a decrease were asian students.
This was by design.


Since we are talking about the analysis in the court case — the justices called out the low-income students as highest beneficiaries — the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students also saw huge increases in representation.

If we also look at actual enrollment and yield, we see that white students didn’t have the largest increase, even though they make up the plurality. They just aren’t as interested in TJ - lower application and acceptance rates.


Circuit court judges are not called justices.
They were looking for reasons to avoid acknowledging the racial discrimination.

When you analyze racial discrimination, you look at the racial group, you don't pore over the data until you find some subset of that discriminated group that did better than average.

If we are talking about racial discrimination in admissions, we look at admissions data, not matriculation data.


Again, the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students saw huge increases in representation.

Before the change, the admission rate for black students was 25% of the admission rate for Asian students. Then, went up to 75% after the change. Still less than the 80% guideline.

The disparate impact for black students has lessened significantly but still remains after the change.

So by your explanation this admissions change is nothing but racial percentage manipulation.


No, the admissions change was about opening up TJ to all middle schools.

You were the one who posted about the racial manipulation that happened with the admissions change. But when you're called out, you start lying, claiming it's about opening it to middle schools—when it was always open. Then you start blaming the top four middle school students as rich kids. All your posts are repeat this BS.


We have been discussing many different aspects of the admissions change and you are misrepresenting what was said.

Discrimination:
**The current admissions process does not discriminate against Asian students.
**The old admissions process did present disparate impact for black students when you compared the admissions rate for those kids vs. Asian kids (25% is far below the 80% guideline).

Admissions process:
**The feeder schools have significantly more wealthy families than the MSs which had zero representation before the change.
**The old admissions process presented many hurdles that made it more difficult for kids from lower-income families to navigate and successfully compete.
**The number and rate of kids admitted to the pool (and TJ) was generally lower for kids who attended MSs with higher FRE %s.
**For the class of 2024, there was less than 1% of the admitted class who came from lower-income families.
**The current process allocates a handful of seats to all MSs so that there is a higher chance that kids from MSs with high FRE % will be admitted, increasing representation from kids across the county.



Discrimination:
**The current process was a result of a race focused conversation about racial representation at TJ. If there is discriminatory intent behind the change then you don't analyze it the same way.
**Academic ability is not equally distributed between races. The 80% guideline is not relevant here. You should not see the 80% rule invoked in any of the opinions.

Admissions process:
**Academic ability is not evenly distributed geographically
**Removing the $100 application fee was a great idea. Removing the test was not.
**Academic ability is not evenly distributed economically.
**The current process allocates 450 out of 550 seats based on geography.


That is why the current majority of TJ students now (under new admission) is still coming from certain wealthy area, and the farms number is also still very low (at 12%).
I don't have a say if you are still mad because you are expecting 0% farms (aka your ideology that poor smart student does not exist).


I was a poor smart student. I went to a school full of poor smart students.
The entire school was selected based on the results of a single exam.

but what about racial diversity? did the exam also pick the most deserving from each racial group among the applicants?


Admissions is based on a single test score.

We have heated discussions about the pros and cons of a pure merit based process and one pro is that a black kid at an ivy that went to stuyvesant gets instant credibility.
This came up when a woman talked about the racism she encountered at harvard and people treated her like she was an affirmative action admit util one day she wore her stuyvesant sweatshirt and instatly people treated her different.

Imagine getting into harvard and people not respecting you until they find out you went to styuvvesant. Nobody gives a fck if you wet to andover but if you went to stuy, then you're legit.
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I hear there is no way to get into stuyvesant based on skin color and lowest level math, whereas those factors can get an admission into TJ. Why?
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Anonymous wrote:I hear there is no way to get into stuyvesant based on skin color and lowest level math, whereas those factors can get an admission into TJ. Why?


Stuyvesant remains focused on merit. TJ capitulated to left-wing politicians who wanted to hand out TJ seats like party favors all across the region.
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TJ may be turning a corner. They recently replaced the principal. Hopefully, more positive changes are in the works.
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Anonymous wrote:I hear there is no way to get into stuyvesant based on skin color and lowest level math, whereas those factors can get an admission into TJ. Why?


Liar. It's a race-blind process.
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It's only blind if one chooses to close their eyes.
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Anonymous wrote:I am hopeful that the new principal can keep the low stress environment without abandoning rigor.

For a change, the new principal has STEM background. Merit is back, beginning with the new principal.


Bonitatibus has a computer science background.

Maybe for a change you can try to post something truthful?



She has a what?

It says she graduated from indiana university of pennsylvania in communications education.

Nothing about computer science, english or math. I'm not saying you need a degree to teach those subjects at the high school level but just saying you have a background in computer science doesn't make it so.

I think she is perfectly well qualified to be a principal of a base school but TJ needs a principal that understands gifted education and why it is not a waste of taxpayer money like so many on DCUM seem to think.



If you can say that he “has a STEM background”, then you can say that about her as well.

Both studied STEM in college; both went directly into teaching; both taught math in the past.

He did more STEM in college but that doesn’t mean she did zero.


Does a college student who takes a required distributional course in "physics for poets" count as studying STEM in college by your definition?


She did enough to be qualified to teach math and has mentioned her background in computer science in college.

Is she the STEMiest person out there? No. But she does have a “STEM background” if we are considering his background to be a “STEM background” (AKA studied and taught STEM topics decades ago).


Looks like you are having a hard time accepting it. But FCPS is letting her go due to poor performance.


They didn’t let her go. She received a promotion.

I have no problem with the transition - Mukai sounds great. I just hate liars.

Moved to a back office role, no one hears about or cares. Just glad TJ is turning the corner with qualified leadership.



Bonitatibus is qualified.



She has lost the confidence of the students, the faculty and the parents. She could no longer be effective in her role. She chose political alignment with the FCPS board over the mission of the school.


#fakenews She was a great principal who did great things for TJ and the county.


She facilitated a push to change admission standards that discriminated against asians.
Asians constituted the overwhelming majority of her students and families.
The asians at at TJ either hate her or hate their own race.


Fake news from RWNJ trolls.

No discrimination.

Many Asian people, including TJ students and alum, support the change.


It's so laughable really. I mean the school is majority Asian. Asian enrollment is at a historic high and the largest beneficiaries of the change were again Asians.


Asians are the only racial group[ thaty saw a decline in admissions.


You mean, Asian students from affluent families.

The Asian students from low-income families saw the biggest increase in representation.


When you data scrape subsets of data to find a subset that supports your argument, you have a weak argument.
We measure racial discrimination along racial lines and you are using a subset of a racial group that has seen an increase.
The racial group that saw the largest increase were white students.
The only group that saw a decrease were asian students.
This was by design.


Since we are talking about the analysis in the court case — the justices called out the low-income students as highest beneficiaries — the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students also saw huge increases in representation.

If we also look at actual enrollment and yield, we see that white students didn’t have the largest increase, even though they make up the plurality. They just aren’t as interested in TJ - lower application and acceptance rates.


Circuit court judges are not called justices.
They were looking for reasons to avoid acknowledging the racial discrimination.

When you analyze racial discrimination, you look at the racial group, you don't pore over the data until you find some subset of that discriminated group that did better than average.

If we are talking about racial discrimination in admissions, we look at admissions data, not matriculation data.


Again, the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students saw huge increases in representation.

Before the change, the admission rate for black students was 25% of the admission rate for Asian students. Then, went up to 75% after the change. Still less than the 80% guideline.

The disparate impact for black students has lessened significantly but still remains after the change.

So by your explanation this admissions change is nothing but racial percentage manipulation.


No, the admissions change was about opening up TJ to all middle schools.

You were the one who posted about the racial manipulation that happened with the admissions change. But when you're called out, you start lying, claiming it's about opening it to middle schools—when it was always open. Then you start blaming the top four middle school students as rich kids. All your posts are repeat this BS.


We have been discussing many different aspects of the admissions change and you are misrepresenting what was said.

Discrimination:
**The current admissions process does not discriminate against Asian students.
**The old admissions process did present disparate impact for black students when you compared the admissions rate for those kids vs. Asian kids (25% is far below the 80% guideline).

Admissions process:
**The feeder schools have significantly more wealthy families than the MSs which had zero representation before the change.
**The old admissions process presented many hurdles that made it more difficult for kids from lower-income families to navigate and successfully compete.
**The number and rate of kids admitted to the pool (and TJ) was generally lower for kids who attended MSs with higher FRE %s.
**For the class of 2024, there was less than 1% of the admitted class who came from lower-income families.
**The current process allocates a handful of seats to all MSs so that there is a higher chance that kids from MSs with high FRE % will be admitted, increasing representation from kids across the county.



Discrimination:
**The current process was a result of a race focused conversation about racial representation at TJ. If there is discriminatory intent behind the change then you don't analyze it the same way.
**Academic ability is not equally distributed between races. The 80% guideline is not relevant here. You should not see the 80% rule invoked in any of the opinions.

Admissions process:
**Academic ability is not evenly distributed geographically
**Removing the $100 application fee was a great idea. Removing the test was not.
**Academic ability is not evenly distributed economically.
**The current process allocates 450 out of 550 seats based on geography.


That is why the current majority of TJ students now (under new admission) is still coming from certain wealthy area, and the farms number is also still very low (at 12%).
I don't have a say if you are still mad because you are expecting 0% farms (aka your ideology that poor smart student does not exist).


I was a poor smart student. I went to a school full of poor smart students.
The entire school was selected based on the results of a single exam.

but what about racial diversity? did the exam also pick the most deserving from each racial group among the applicants?


It was called "merit". A foreign concept to you, apparently. The diversity/DEI initiatives at TJ have not gone well.
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Anonymous wrote:It's only blind if one chooses to close their eyes.


It's race blind, period.

Stop spreading lies.
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Anonymous wrote:It's only blind if one chooses to close their eyes.


It's race blind, period.

Stop spreading lies.

why do you bring race into every discussion?
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Anonymous wrote:I am hopeful that the new principal can keep the low stress environment without abandoning rigor.

For a change, the new principal has STEM background. Merit is back, beginning with the new principal.


Bonitatibus has a computer science background.

Maybe for a change you can try to post something truthful?



She has a what?

It says she graduated from indiana university of pennsylvania in communications education.

Nothing about computer science, english or math. I'm not saying you need a degree to teach those subjects at the high school level but just saying you have a background in computer science doesn't make it so.

I think she is perfectly well qualified to be a principal of a base school but TJ needs a principal that understands gifted education and why it is not a waste of taxpayer money like so many on DCUM seem to think.



If you can say that he “has a STEM background”, then you can say that about her as well.

Both studied STEM in college; both went directly into teaching; both taught math in the past.

He did more STEM in college but that doesn’t mean she did zero.


Does a college student who takes a required distributional course in "physics for poets" count as studying STEM in college by your definition?


She did enough to be qualified to teach math and has mentioned her background in computer science in college.

Is she the STEMiest person out there? No. But she does have a “STEM background” if we are considering his background to be a “STEM background” (AKA studied and taught STEM topics decades ago).


Looks like you are having a hard time accepting it. But FCPS is letting her go due to poor performance.


They didn’t let her go. She received a promotion.

I have no problem with the transition - Mukai sounds great. I just hate liars.

Moved to a back office role, no one hears about or cares. Just glad TJ is turning the corner with qualified leadership.



Bonitatibus is qualified.



She has lost the confidence of the students, the faculty and the parents. She could no longer be effective in her role. She chose political alignment with the FCPS board over the mission of the school.


#fakenews She was a great principal who did great things for TJ and the county.


She facilitated a push to change admission standards that discriminated against asians.
Asians constituted the overwhelming majority of her students and families.
The asians at at TJ either hate her or hate their own race.


Fake news from RWNJ trolls.

No discrimination.

Many Asian people, including TJ students and alum, support the change.


It's so laughable really. I mean the school is majority Asian. Asian enrollment is at a historic high and the largest beneficiaries of the change were again Asians.


Asians are the only racial group[ thaty saw a decline in admissions.


You mean, Asian students from affluent families.

The Asian students from low-income families saw the biggest increase in representation.


When you data scrape subsets of data to find a subset that supports your argument, you have a weak argument.
We measure racial discrimination along racial lines and you are using a subset of a racial group that has seen an increase.
The racial group that saw the largest increase were white students.
The only group that saw a decrease were asian students.
This was by design.


Since we are talking about the analysis in the court case — the justices called out the low-income students as highest beneficiaries — the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students also saw huge increases in representation.

If we also look at actual enrollment and yield, we see that white students didn’t have the largest increase, even though they make up the plurality. They just aren’t as interested in TJ - lower application and acceptance rates.


Circuit court judges are not called justices.
They were looking for reasons to avoid acknowledging the racial discrimination.

When you analyze racial discrimination, you look at the racial group, you don't pore over the data until you find some subset of that discriminated group that did better than average.

If we are talking about racial discrimination in admissions, we look at admissions data, not matriculation data.


Again, the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students saw huge increases in representation.

Before the change, the admission rate for black students was 25% of the admission rate for Asian students. Then, went up to 75% after the change. Still less than the 80% guideline.

The disparate impact for black students has lessened significantly but still remains after the change.

So by your explanation this admissions change is nothing but racial percentage manipulation.


No, the admissions change was about opening up TJ to all middle schools.

You were the one who posted about the racial manipulation that happened with the admissions change. But when you're called out, you start lying, claiming it's about opening it to middle schools—when it was always open. Then you start blaming the top four middle school students as rich kids. All your posts are repeat this BS.


We have been discussing many different aspects of the admissions change and you are misrepresenting what was said.

Discrimination:
**The current admissions process does not discriminate against Asian students.
**The old admissions process did present disparate impact for black students when you compared the admissions rate for those kids vs. Asian kids (25% is far below the 80% guideline).

Admissions process:
**The feeder schools have significantly more wealthy families than the MSs which had zero representation before the change.
**The old admissions process presented many hurdles that made it more difficult for kids from lower-income families to navigate and successfully compete.
**The number and rate of kids admitted to the pool (and TJ) was generally lower for kids who attended MSs with higher FRE %s.
**For the class of 2024, there was less than 1% of the admitted class who came from lower-income families.
**The current process allocates a handful of seats to all MSs so that there is a higher chance that kids from MSs with high FRE % will be admitted, increasing representation from kids across the county.



Discrimination:
**The current process was a result of a race focused conversation about racial representation at TJ. If there is discriminatory intent behind the change then you don't analyze it the same way.
**Academic ability is not equally distributed between races. The 80% guideline is not relevant here. You should not see the 80% rule invoked in any of the opinions.

Admissions process:
**Academic ability is not evenly distributed geographically
**Removing the $100 application fee was a great idea. Removing the test was not.
**Academic ability is not evenly distributed economically.
**The current process allocates 450 out of 550 seats based on geography.


That is why the current majority of TJ students now (under new admission) is still coming from certain wealthy area, and the farms number is also still very low (at 12%).
I don't have a say if you are still mad because you are expecting 0% farms (aka your ideology that poor smart student does not exist).


I was a poor smart student. I went to a school full of poor smart students.
The entire school was selected based on the results of a single exam.

but what about racial diversity? did the exam also pick the most deserving from each racial group among the applicants?


It was called "merit". A foreign concept to you, apparently. The diversity/DEI initiatives at TJ have not gone well.

Of course, DEI was a trend and TJ admissions got caught up in that. But trends come and go.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's only blind if one chooses to close their eyes.


It's race blind, period.

Stop spreading lies.

why do you bring race into every discussion?


The PP lied and said that "skin color" is one of the "factors can get an admission into TJ".

Republicans are lying POSs.
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Anonymous wrote:I am hopeful that the new principal can keep the low stress environment without abandoning rigor.

For a change, the new principal has STEM background. Merit is back, beginning with the new principal.


Bonitatibus has a computer science background.

Maybe for a change you can try to post something truthful?



She has a what?

It says she graduated from indiana university of pennsylvania in communications education.

Nothing about computer science, english or math. I'm not saying you need a degree to teach those subjects at the high school level but just saying you have a background in computer science doesn't make it so.

I think she is perfectly well qualified to be a principal of a base school but TJ needs a principal that understands gifted education and why it is not a waste of taxpayer money like so many on DCUM seem to think.



If you can say that he “has a STEM background”, then you can say that about her as well.

Both studied STEM in college; both went directly into teaching; both taught math in the past.

He did more STEM in college but that doesn’t mean she did zero.


Does a college student who takes a required distributional course in "physics for poets" count as studying STEM in college by your definition?


She did enough to be qualified to teach math and has mentioned her background in computer science in college.

Is she the STEMiest person out there? No. But she does have a “STEM background” if we are considering his background to be a “STEM background” (AKA studied and taught STEM topics decades ago).


Looks like you are having a hard time accepting it. But FCPS is letting her go due to poor performance.


They didn’t let her go. She received a promotion.

I have no problem with the transition - Mukai sounds great. I just hate liars.

Moved to a back office role, no one hears about or cares. Just glad TJ is turning the corner with qualified leadership.



Bonitatibus is qualified.



She has lost the confidence of the students, the faculty and the parents. She could no longer be effective in her role. She chose political alignment with the FCPS board over the mission of the school.


#fakenews She was a great principal who did great things for TJ and the county.


She facilitated a push to change admission standards that discriminated against asians.
Asians constituted the overwhelming majority of her students and families.
The asians at at TJ either hate her or hate their own race.


Fake news from RWNJ trolls.

No discrimination.

Many Asian people, including TJ students and alum, support the change.


It's so laughable really. I mean the school is majority Asian. Asian enrollment is at a historic high and the largest beneficiaries of the change were again Asians.


Asians are the only racial group[ thaty saw a decline in admissions.


You mean, Asian students from affluent families.

The Asian students from low-income families saw the biggest increase in representation.


When you data scrape subsets of data to find a subset that supports your argument, you have a weak argument.
We measure racial discrimination along racial lines and you are using a subset of a racial group that has seen an increase.
The racial group that saw the largest increase were white students.
The only group that saw a decrease were asian students.
This was by design.


Since we are talking about the analysis in the court case — the justices called out the low-income students as highest beneficiaries — the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students also saw huge increases in representation.

If we also look at actual enrollment and yield, we see that white students didn’t have the largest increase, even though they make up the plurality. They just aren’t as interested in TJ - lower application and acceptance rates.


Circuit court judges are not called justices.
They were looking for reasons to avoid acknowledging the racial discrimination.

When you analyze racial discrimination, you look at the racial group, you don't pore over the data until you find some subset of that discriminated group that did better than average.

If we are talking about racial discrimination in admissions, we look at admissions data, not matriculation data.


Again, the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students saw huge increases in representation.

Before the change, the admission rate for black students was 25% of the admission rate for Asian students. Then, went up to 75% after the change. Still less than the 80% guideline.

The disparate impact for black students has lessened significantly but still remains after the change.

So by your explanation this admissions change is nothing but racial percentage manipulation.


No, the admissions change was about opening up TJ to all middle schools.

You were the one who posted about the racial manipulation that happened with the admissions change. But when you're called out, you start lying, claiming it's about opening it to middle schools—when it was always open. Then you start blaming the top four middle school students as rich kids. All your posts are repeat this BS.


We have been discussing many different aspects of the admissions change and you are misrepresenting what was said.

Discrimination:
**The current admissions process does not discriminate against Asian students.
**The old admissions process did present disparate impact for black students when you compared the admissions rate for those kids vs. Asian kids (25% is far below the 80% guideline).

Admissions process:
**The feeder schools have significantly more wealthy families than the MSs which had zero representation before the change.
**The old admissions process presented many hurdles that made it more difficult for kids from lower-income families to navigate and successfully compete.
**The number and rate of kids admitted to the pool (and TJ) was generally lower for kids who attended MSs with higher FRE %s.
**For the class of 2024, there was less than 1% of the admitted class who came from lower-income families.
**The current process allocates a handful of seats to all MSs so that there is a higher chance that kids from MSs with high FRE % will be admitted, increasing representation from kids across the county.



Discrimination:
**The current process was a result of a race focused conversation about racial representation at TJ. If there is discriminatory intent behind the change then you don't analyze it the same way.
**Academic ability is not equally distributed between races. The 80% guideline is not relevant here. You should not see the 80% rule invoked in any of the opinions.

Admissions process:
**Academic ability is not evenly distributed geographically
**Removing the $100 application fee was a great idea. Removing the test was not.
**Academic ability is not evenly distributed economically.
**The current process allocates 450 out of 550 seats based on geography.


An education circles. This is considered a best practice for selection to elite programs like TJ.


Education circles are woke AF and think their mission is social justice instead of actual education.



Educators want to educate ALL kids and lift up the kids who need extra help.

That's why "woke educators" like the E3 Alliance are pushing to get MORE kids into advanced math.



The education departments offering PhDs in education are woke AF and view their mission as social justice not actual education.

I'm sure there are some educators somewhere tghat actually believe in education but they are not the ones teaching education at the graduate levels.


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