Hilaria Baldwin - At it again

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m glad that she’s being called out in this, even though she’s in massive denial and won’t ever admit to sketchy behavior- because our culture celebrates celebrities to a ridiculous degree, & lying celebrities in particular seem to get a pass. It’s not okay for her to receive income, endorsements, fame, & professional opportunities based on a heritage & cultural background that is completely untrue. She’s a liar, pure and simple, & the harm is that she turned herself into a brown-skinned minority immigrant woman knowing full-well that she lived a life of extraordinary privilege as a white American. She portrayed herself as an exotic Spaniard, mostly pregnant and in her underwear, while real Spanish women in this country, the real immigrants, didn’t have the chance to take it on and off, and for sure never had the opportunities that she did.

It’s disgusting behavior because she used her extraordinary privilege to appropriate a lineage and heritage that was never hers to claim. It is deceitful on a grand scale, & she deserves the shame.

Stop following these people and just live your life! She is being called out today...maybe not for the same thing but..it will be somebody else next week or next month. We don't know these people just their persona and so the outrage when their true selves are exposed. Stop idolizing these people...they are flawed humans just like the rest of us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I barely knew anything about this woman before other than some fleeting info on a celebrity news piece...I am familiar with the Baldwin brothers just through the years, and, lately, his SNL impressions of Trump (which I liked!) Anyway, I'm a youngish boomer, about Alec's age) so I'm looking at this maybe from a different perspective. I just do not see a story here and I feel that the original tweet and subsequent investigation created a story where there was none. Intrigued and not currently working, and bored from not doing my usual things, I delved into the pieces and "video evidence."

I don't think this woman, Hilaria, conned anyone. The Spanish culture lives largely in her home, very similarly to a lot of my family and friends who are Jewish. Why isn't this the same thing? We all grew up speaking two or three languages, English, Hebrew, and Yiddish- yet most of us have had never been to Israel until adults or at all. My family has a mild accent, and family members in New York really do, yet do not live in Israel. My family calls me by a different name, and many of my friends, who are not Israeli, and not Eastern European, had full-on Jewish weddings with food and drink and language and dress and custom. They've named their kids Hebrew names. They have Judaica artwork all over their houses. Some have visited Israel, some have not. Some have friends and family who live there, some do not.

Additionally, I know many families who have grandparents and great grandparents from Quebec. They also have French names, call their elders Mame and Pepe, and pepper their speech with various French words, and lot of art and food, despite NEVER HAVING LIVED THERE.
Have you watch any television in the last 20 years? What about Italians? RHONJ? I watched one season. For people who never lived in Italy, they sure spoke a lot of Italian,
discussed Italian food, family culture and mannerisms, and had houses filled with marble flooring and Tuscan kitchens.

I went to college with Greek friends who lived an exact lifestyle depicted in My Big Fat Greek wedding with only having great grandparents, or further down the line- great great grandparents, as the only people ever having lived in Greece.

On the one hand, people claim to want to embrace open borders, globalization, and the proverbial melting pot, but when people do, they are called out for cultural appropriation. Why? Being Spanish isn't a race. It doesn't even have to be an ethnicity. It's a country, and a language, with a culture. Isn't that what we are going for?

Look at their wedding. They both embraced a Spanish theme with both of their families there. If she were trying to convey a lie, (and what is the lie anyway?)would she be able to do that in front of her whole family? The wedding announcement had zero info that is untrue. Nothing was ever misappropriated. This family has embraced a Spanish culture for a lot of reasons pertaining to what she's embraced, or chosen, as a member of her family, looking at her father's resume and academic background, and that's that. Her parents felt comfortable enough to actually move there as young retirees. That didn't happen on a whim. Hilaria's Spanish is on par with native speakers. Their kids have Spanish names. Nothing wrong with it. DNA doesn't inform culture.

Nothing this Hilaria/Hillary has been featured in insinuates any lying, and I've taken a good look at the requisite videos, Hola article, her Mom's clip, everything. It seems that various people took out of context items and crocheted them into something that isn't with a pretty accusatory outcome...and it looks like online bullying, unfortunately, which is something I do know about having taught middle and high school. This is nothing less than that and it's very alarming.

Furthermore, there seems to be years worth of bullying regarding her supposed "gold digging " and motives for marrying. I guess that goes with the territory of marrying a celebrity. I'm pretty sure their days look no different than yours, they just have more money to handle it. Sorry! If I were a gold digger, I doubt I would proceed to have 5 kids with a man 25+ years my senior. She loves him. I also notice that her high school friends speak highly of her, no one is calling her out. They are only clarifying questions. Come on. Find something else to hate- maybe that she looks that good after baby#5. I will never look that good, and it's been 35 years since I had a baby.

In summary, stop this "meshuga" bull$#!++, says this woman who can speak Yiddish fairly well, yet holds 0% DNA in anything allowing me to. I wish this family well. Move on.

“I barely know anything about her” - here is a dissertation on the situation and history.

I guess this is where comprehension comes into play and just exactly how most of these people create stories where there isn't one.
Read, if you only would:

I barely knew anything about this woman before other than some fleeting info on a celebrity news piece...

Intrigued and not currently working, and bored from not doing my usual things, I delved into the pieces and "video evidence.


Pretty sure I indicated what most people here have, that she's not really on anyone's radar. For the record, I am in my 60s, so I could give zero crap about babies, her parenting advice, back to body yoga...pretty sure I mentioned that,too.
Then, I mentioned that I did start to read all the stuff, watched the videos, etc., after this erupted- out of sheer curiosity and this endless and pointless thread based upon nothing. The result is my opinion. You might not even recognize a dissertation, sweetheart.

Your issue? Zero attention span, reduced only to small items of text, tweets, and retweets, with opinion, not fact, guiding your entire critical thinking ( or lack thereof) with which you draw conclusions- as you did with my post and most certainly with this story.

What you are good at is trolling only, which very often has terrible consequences for those you decide to make your victims. Grow the f---- up.

Always really strange when someone considers a person who is responsible for their problems as "victims." Let's hope this doesn't become a defense for more people who fraud and cheat in the world.

It wasn't their fault! It's the angry mob's fault!

GAH

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I’m glad that she’s being called out in this, even though she’s in massive denial and won’t ever admit to sketchy behavior- because our culture celebrates celebrities to a ridiculous degree, & lying celebrities in particular seem to get a pass. It’s not okay for her to receive income, endorsements, fame, & professional opportunities based on a heritage & cultural background that is completely untrue. She’s a liar, pure and simple, & the harm is that she turned herself into a brown-skinned minority immigrant woman knowing full-well that she lived a life of extraordinary privilege as a white American. She portrayed herself as an exotic Spaniard, mostly pregnant and in her underwear, while real Spanish women in this country, the real immigrants, didn’t have the chance to take it on and off, and for sure never had the opportunities that she did.

It’s disgusting behavior because she used her extraordinary privilege to appropriate a lineage and heritage that was never hers to claim. It is deceitful on a grand scale, & she deserves the shame.

You do know that Spain is a European country with mostly white people, right?

DP, here, but agree and to what end? Trying to seem slightly more interesting on Insta is hardly this extraordinary con of historic proportion (didn't some PP analogize it to Madoff? ). Frankly, I think the incredible attention to this is way more due to discomfort* about her attention-seeking and "taking it off" as PP puts it--and success from these activities--than anything approximating "cultural appropriation."

*I wouldn't quite call it jealousy, though that's in the mix too...

I'm very jealous that I can't/won't fabricate a make believe image of myself to get an older rich guy, personally. Spot on!

[Anonymous]

It's clear that both East Coast and West Coast PR for the Baldwins are on this feed. I'm out, it's gotten a bit thick. It started out with an emphasis on integrity and truth but now the paid shills are here and there is no point to continue following, not at this site.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I’m glad that she’s being called out in this, even though she’s in massive denial and won’t ever admit to sketchy behavior- because our culture celebrates celebrities to a ridiculous degree, & lying celebrities in particular seem to get a pass. It’s not okay for her to receive income, endorsements, fame, & professional opportunities based on a heritage & cultural background that is completely untrue. She’s a liar, pure and simple, & the harm is that she turned herself into a brown-skinned minority immigrant woman knowing full-well that she lived a life of extraordinary privilege as a white American. She portrayed herself as an exotic Spaniard, mostly pregnant and in her underwear, while real Spanish women in this country, the real immigrants, didn’t have the chance to take it on and off, and for sure never had the opportunities that she did.

It’s disgusting behavior because she used her extraordinary privilege to appropriate a lineage and heritage that was never hers to claim. It is deceitful on a grand scale, & she deserves the shame.

You do know that Spain is a European country with mostly white people, right?

DP, here, but agree and to what end? Trying to seem slightly more interesting on Insta is hardly this extraordinary con of historic proportion (didn't some PP analogize it to Madoff? ). Frankly, I think the incredible attention to this is way more due to discomfort* about her attention-seeking and "taking it off" as PP puts it--and success from these activities--than anything approximating "cultural appropriation."

*I wouldn't quite call it jealousy, though that's in the mix too...

I'm very jealous that I can't/won't fabricate a make believe image of myself to get an older rich guy, personally. Spot on!

+1

Insane.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IMDB says she was born in Mallorca,Spain??

It says born in Boston.

It was changed yesterday. Till Monday it said Spain.

[Anonymous]

two days ago her IMDB said born in Mallorca.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m glad that she’s being called out in this, even though she’s in massive denial and won’t ever admit to sketchy behavior- because our culture celebrates celebrities to a ridiculous degree, & lying celebrities in particular seem to get a pass. It’s not okay for her to receive income, endorsements, fame, & professional opportunities based on a heritage & cultural background that is completely untrue. She’s a liar, pure and simple, & the harm is that she turned herself into a brown-skinned minority immigrant woman knowing full-well that she lived a life of extraordinary privilege as a white American. She portrayed herself as an exotic Spaniard, mostly pregnant and in her underwear, while real Spanish women in this country, the real immigrants, didn’t have the chance to take it on and off, and for sure never had the opportunities that she did.

It’s disgusting behavior because she used her extraordinary privilege to appropriate a lineage and heritage that was never hers to claim. It is deceitful on a grand scale, & she deserves the shame.

BARE FOOT, in underwear, and pregnant.

[Anonymous]

Many videos- too many..

No Spanish accent. Not a bit. Not a slip, not an inflection, either. No where does this woman actually say anything that people say she said or did.

Look them up, it isn't hard. Today.com and Mom Brain.

There's literally no story here, it's being created. More than 280 pp of pure fiction and hate for someone who does not need to be taking up your time. There are people dying in the world, a government crisis, people starving because they've lost their jobs, no health care, world pandemic. This is an issue this week? And why does this 30 something woman take up this much space in your head? Learn to source material, learn to think, stop-just stop the piling on. The only thing concocted here is the story written about a non-story. One tweet should not have the power to take a person down.

I think this thread should be closed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:two days ago her IMDB said born in Mallorca.

She does not write that. There's info that is generated from many sources that she has nothing to do with. She corrected it.

Even her wedding announcement did not say that.

[Anonymous]

Yes, of course I know that Spain is a part of Europe; Spanish actress Elsa Pataky is flat out gorgeous, has blond hair & blue eyes, & legit Spanish heritage. My point in my remarks regarding Ms Baldwin is that she deliberately turned herself, via black hair dye, fake tan, & groucho marx eyebrows, into the stereotypical “Spanish” woman, much like what a white girl from Boston would do if she wanted to make believe she was Spanish.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m glad that she’s being called out in this, even though she’s in massive denial and won’t ever admit to sketchy behavior- because our culture celebrates celebrities to a ridiculous degree, & lying celebrities in particular seem to get a pass. It’s not okay for her to receive income, endorsements, fame, & professional opportunities based on a heritage & cultural background that is completely untrue. She’s a liar, pure and simple, & the harm is that she turned herself into a brown-skinned minority immigrant woman knowing full-well that she lived a life of extraordinary privilege as a white American. She portrayed herself as an exotic Spaniard, mostly pregnant and in her underwear, while real Spanish women in this country, the real immigrants, didn’t have the chance to take it on and off, and for sure never had the opportunities that she did.

It’s disgusting behavior because she used her extraordinary privilege to appropriate a lineage and heritage that was never hers to claim. It is deceitful on a grand scale, & she deserves the shame.

Stop following these people and just live your life! She is being called out today...maybe not for the same thing but..it will be somebody else next week or next month. We don't know these people just their persona and so the outrage when their true selves are exposed. Stop idolizing these people...they are flawed humans just like the rest of us.

We shouldn’t idolize them. But they aren’t like the rest of us though, are they. They aren’t relatable to us regular folk, at all, even though they try to be. I can’t jet off to a warm tropical island on a whim during a pandemic, I don’t have help raising my kids and keeping my house, I couldn’t get away with lying about who I was for a decade. Somehow, they seem to get away with way more than the rest of us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I barely knew anything about this woman before other than some fleeting info on a celebrity news piece...I am familiar with the Baldwin brothers just through the years, and, lately, his SNL impressions of Trump (which I liked!) Anyway, I'm a youngish boomer, about Alec's age) so I'm looking at this maybe from a different perspective. I just do not see a story here and I feel that the original tweet and subsequent investigation created a story where there was none. Intrigued and not currently working, and bored from not doing my usual things, I delved into the pieces and "video evidence."

I don't think this woman, Hilaria, conned anyone. The Spanish culture lives largely in her home, very similarly to a lot of my family and friends who are Jewish. Why isn't this the same thing? We all grew up speaking two or three languages, English, Hebrew, and Yiddish- yet most of us have had never been to Israel until adults or at all. My family has a mild accent, and family members in New York really do, yet do not live in Israel. My family calls me by a different name, and many of my friends, who are not Israeli, and not Eastern European, had full-on Jewish weddings with food and drink and language and dress and custom. They've named their kids Hebrew names. They have Judaica artwork all over their houses. Some have visited Israel, some have not. Some have friends and family who live there, some do not.

Additionally, I know many families who have grandparents and great grandparents from Quebec. They also have French names, call their elders Mame and Pepe, and pepper their speech with various French words, and lot of art and food, despite NEVER HAVING LIVED THERE.
Have you watch any television in the last 20 years? What about Italians? RHONJ? I watched one season. For people who never lived in Italy, they sure spoke a lot of Italian,
discussed Italian food, family culture and mannerisms, and had houses filled with marble flooring and Tuscan kitchens.

I went to college with Greek friends who lived an exact lifestyle depicted in My Big Fat Greek wedding with only having great grandparents, or further down the line- great great grandparents, as the only people ever having lived in Greece.

On the one hand, people claim to want to embrace open borders, globalization, and the proverbial melting pot, but when people do, they are called out for cultural appropriation. Why? Being Spanish isn't a race. It doesn't even have to be an ethnicity. It's a country, and a language, with a culture. Isn't that what we are going for?

Look at their wedding. They both embraced a Spanish theme with both of their families there. If she were trying to convey a lie, (and what is the lie anyway?)would she be able to do that in front of her whole family? The wedding announcement had zero info that is untrue. Nothing was ever misappropriated. This family has embraced a Spanish culture for a lot of reasons pertaining to what she's embraced, or chosen, as a member of her family, looking at her father's resume and academic background, and that's that. Her parents felt comfortable enough to actually move there as young retirees. That didn't happen on a whim. Hilaria's Spanish is on par with native speakers. Their kids have Spanish names. Nothing wrong with it. DNA doesn't inform culture.

Nothing this Hilaria/Hillary has been featured in insinuates any lying, and I've taken a good look at the requisite videos, Hola article, her Mom's clip, everything. It seems that various people took out of context items and crocheted them into something that isn't with a pretty accusatory outcome...and it looks like online bullying, unfortunately, which is something I do know about having taught middle and high school. This is nothing less than that and it's very alarming.

Furthermore, there seems to be years worth of bullying regarding her supposed "gold digging " and motives for marrying. I guess that goes with the territory of marrying a celebrity. I'm pretty sure their days look no different than yours, they just have more money to handle it. Sorry! If I were a gold digger, I doubt I would proceed to have 5 kids with a man 25+ years my senior. She loves him. I also notice that her high school friends speak highly of her, no one is calling her out. They are only clarifying questions. Come on. Find something else to hate- maybe that she looks that good after baby#5. I will never look that good, and it's been 35 years since I had a baby.

In summary, stop this "meshuga" bull$#!++, says this woman who can speak Yiddish fairly well, yet holds 0% DNA in anything allowing me to. I wish this family well. Move on.

“I barely know anything about her” - here is a dissertation on the situation and history.

I guess this is where comprehension comes into play and just exactly how most of these people create stories where there isn't one.
Read, if you only would:

I barely knew anything about this woman before other than some fleeting info on a celebrity news piece...

Intrigued and not currently working, and bored from not doing my usual things, I delved into the pieces and "video evidence.


Pretty sure I indicated what most people here have, that she's not really on anyone's radar. For the record, I am in my 60s, so I could give zero crap about babies, her parenting advice, back to body yoga...pretty sure I mentioned that,too.
Then, I mentioned that I did start to read all the stuff, watched the videos, etc., after this erupted- out of sheer curiosity and this endless and pointless thread based upon nothing. The result is my opinion. You might not even recognize a dissertation, sweetheart.

Your issue? Zero attention span, reduced only to small items of text, tweets, and retweets, with opinion, not fact, guiding your entire critical thinking ( or lack thereof) with which you draw conclusions- as you did with my post and most certainly with this story.

What you are good at is trolling only, which very often has terrible consequences for those you decide to make your victims. Grow the f---- up.

Always really strange when someone considers a person who is responsible for their problems as "victims." Let's hope this doesn't become a defense for more people who fraud and cheat in the world.

It wasn't their fault! It's the angry mob's fault!

GAH

You sound like Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:two days ago her IMDB said born in Mallorca.

She does not write that. There's info that is generated from many sources that she has nothing to do with. She corrected it.

Even her wedding announcement did not say that.

Whelp her profile with CAA said she was born in Spain, Alec has said she was born in Spain and she said she was born in Spain. Read the thread and you’ll find all the cites.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Many videos- too many..

No Spanish accent. Not a bit. Not a slip, not an inflection, either. No where does this woman actually say anything that people say she said or did.

Look them up, it isn't hard. Today.com and Mom Brain.

There's literally no story here, it's being created. More than 280 pp of pure fiction and hate for someone who does not need to be taking up your time. There are people dying in the world, a government crisis, people starving because they've lost their jobs, no health care, world pandemic. This is an issue this week? And why does this 30 something woman take up this much space in your head? Learn to source material, learn to think, stop-just stop the piling on. The only thing concocted here is the story written about a non-story. One tweet should not have the power to take a person down.

I think this thread should be closed.

What do you care what any of us spend our time on??