ECNL moving to school year part 2

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Anonymous wrote:So….will mls next 2 announce they are going SY? GA did….

I think the suspicion now is both MLSN 1 and 2 will announce SY soon but still close to a coin toss chance if I had to guess

If that screenshot is real (it is real by the way), there is no way they come back in a few weeks and say "Sorry for the long wait and massive confusion for our member clubs, but we're not changing anything even though that will be hugely problematic for you as a partner club".

They are obviously debating what and how much to change. So there will 100% be a change in their current BY system. No doubt about that now, but to what extent is the question. Possible scenarios:

1- Total change to SY across the board (still seems unlikely to me but maybe not)
2- Partial SY change (just the P2P clubs at MLSN1 and MLSN2).
3- Just MLSN2 changes to SY
4- Enhanced biobanding allowing Q4 SY players to play 'down'.
5- ? Something else ?

6. All mlsn platforms go 8/1 for the 27/28 season and announce end of summer 26. I don’t see the advantage of changing a year later, but I’ve heard this from multiple people over the past 2 months.

Interesting. That is not power move at all. If true, it means they were unprepared for this, had to change course/strategy and are now going to lame duck an entire year while everyone else acclimates.

"announce end of summer 26". They just posted that they are reviewing this now and how important it is for their member clubs in the 26/27 season. I know they are slow but waiting well over a year (from the messaging they just put out) to make an announcement seems far fetched even for them. There is no way they let their member clubs hang without a decision in the next two months. And once the member clubs know, it will get out so they might as well announce...

Its almost like they dont plan to change from BY.

What messaging are you referring to? The likely fake screenshot posted to reddit?

Yes, that screenshot. It is definitely not fake.

If they don't plan on changing from BY (which is completely fine) then they need to just come out and tell their own damn member clubs who have no clue what is going on or what is going to happen. You don't see how that might be a problem?

There was a parent created screenshot just like the reddit one for both SOCAL and GA last year. Both ended uo being fakes. The track record is not good.

I don't know about those, although the info in them turned out to be true.

For this one, the screenshot itself is 100% real, it is from the app and hasn't been messed with outside of IOS editing of the personal info. The message itself could be fake. Though it would be pretty strange to fake a message that doesn't say much more than we are still working on a decision.

They were partially true and it was a 50/50 bet. Doesn't change the fact they they were fakes.

I think you are just bitter as hell bc you have a July player.

Bitter because someone is creating fake documents?

Check yourself in the mirror. You don’t know for sure these are fake, but you clearly want to undermine any information with the faintest insinuation that MLSN might go BY. Likely because your kid is in the Q2-July range.

I think theres a very good chance that you created them all.

I’m not crafty enough for that and unlike you I have a life.

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Anonymous wrote:So….will mls next 2 announce they are going SY? GA did….

I think the suspicion now is both MLSN 1 and 2 will announce SY soon but still close to a coin toss chance if I had to guess

If that screenshot is real (it is real by the way), there is no way they come back in a few weeks and say "Sorry for the long wait and massive confusion for our member clubs, but we're not changing anything even though that will be hugely problematic for you as a partner club".

They are obviously debating what and how much to change. So there will 100% be a change in their current BY system. No doubt about that now, but to what extent is the question. Possible scenarios:

1- Total change to SY across the board (still seems unlikely to me but maybe not)
2- Partial SY change (just the P2P clubs at MLSN1 and MLSN2).
3- Just MLSN2 changes to SY
4- Enhanced biobanding allowing Q4 SY players to play 'down'.
5- ? Something else ?

6. All mlsn platforms go 8/1 for the 27/28 season and announce end of summer 26. I don’t see the advantage of changing a year later, but I’ve heard this from multiple people over the past 2 months.

Interesting. That is not power move at all. If true, it means they were unprepared for this, had to change course/strategy and are now going to lame duck an entire year while everyone else acclimates.

"announce end of summer 26". They just posted that they are reviewing this now and how important it is for their member clubs in the 26/27 season. I know they are slow but waiting well over a year (from the messaging they just put out) to make an announcement seems far fetched even for them. There is no way they let their member clubs hang without a decision in the next two months. And once the member clubs know, it will get out so they might as well announce...

Its almost like they dont plan to change from BY.

What messaging are you referring to? The likely fake screenshot posted to reddit?

Yes, that screenshot. It is definitely not fake.

If they don't plan on changing from BY (which is completely fine) then they need to just come out and tell their own damn member clubs who have no clue what is going on or what is going to happen. You don't see how that might be a problem?

There was a parent created screenshot just like the reddit one for both SOCAL and GA last year. Both ended uo being fakes. The track record is not good.

I don't know about those, although the info in them turned out to be true.

For this one, the screenshot itself is 100% real, it is from the app and hasn't been messed with outside of IOS editing of the personal info. The message itself could be fake. Though it would be pretty strange to fake a message that doesn't say much more than we are still working on a decision.

They were partially true and it was a 50/50 bet. Doesn't change the fact they they were fakes.

I think you are just bitter as hell bc you have a July player.

Bitter because someone is creating fake documents?

Check yourself in the mirror. You don’t know for sure these are fake, but you clearly want to undermine any information with the faintest insinuation that MLSN might go BY. Likely because your kid is in the Q2-July range.

I think theres a very good chance that you created them all.

I’m not crafty enough for that and unlike you I have a life.

You camp on this thread all day long trying to dictate what you think is right and wrong. I wouldn't put it past someone like that to make fake screenshots.

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Anonymous wrote:So….will mls next 2 announce they are going SY? GA did….

I think the suspicion now is both MLSN 1 and 2 will announce SY soon but still close to a coin toss chance if I had to guess

If that screenshot is real (it is real by the way), there is no way they come back in a few weeks and say "Sorry for the long wait and massive confusion for our member clubs, but we're not changing anything even though that will be hugely problematic for you as a partner club".

They are obviously debating what and how much to change. So there will 100% be a change in their current BY system. No doubt about that now, but to what extent is the question. Possible scenarios:

1- Total change to SY across the board (still seems unlikely to me but maybe not)
2- Partial SY change (just the P2P clubs at MLSN1 and MLSN2).
3- Just MLSN2 changes to SY
4- Enhanced biobanding allowing Q4 SY players to play 'down'.
5- ? Something else ?

6. All mlsn platforms go 8/1 for the 27/28 season and announce end of summer 26. I don’t see the advantage of changing a year later, but I’ve heard this from multiple people over the past 2 months.

Interesting. That is not power move at all. If true, it means they were unprepared for this, had to change course/strategy and are now going to lame duck an entire year while everyone else acclimates.

"announce end of summer 26". They just posted that they are reviewing this now and how important it is for their member clubs in the 26/27 season. I know they are slow but waiting well over a year (from the messaging they just put out) to make an announcement seems far fetched even for them. There is no way they let their member clubs hang without a decision in the next two months. And once the member clubs know, it will get out so they might as well announce...

Its almost like they dont plan to change from BY.

What messaging are you referring to? The likely fake screenshot posted to reddit?

Yes, that screenshot. It is definitely not fake.

If they don't plan on changing from BY (which is completely fine) then they need to just come out and tell their own damn member clubs who have no clue what is going on or what is going to happen. You don't see how that might be a problem?

I dont see the problem. Eventually MLS Next will need to release its 2026/27 season rules. When they do this everything will be clear. Until then or if they release a statement, BY.

Ok, that will certainly make their member clubs feel good. All of whom are telling parents all kinds of different things because they don't know what is going to happen! The 26/27 rules won't come out until August... Great way to run an organization.

Doesnt this tell you that they intend to stay BY?

If they intend to stay BY why not just come out and say it? Then no guessing is needed. Their own clubs don't know. Should they all just base their tryout season plans on guesses and tea-leaves?

Not saying anything clearly means something is up. It would take 10 seconds to put out an official message that they are staying BY. Then their clubs all know and can plan accordingly.

I'm good friends with the director and an MLSN2 club. The rest of the club is USYS and going to SY. His main competitors in the small-city market are ECRL and NPL. He is pulling his hair out because he has to field questions about this from parents constantly and has heard absolutely nothing from MLSN. How is he going to recruit players over from his competitors if he doesn't even know what the age brackets will be? It is a shit show. But that is cool, I'll just tell him he needs to read between the lines and figure it out for himself.

Likely MLSN is just slow to announce and just waits for prompts from clubs to pile up and/or they were thinking BY all along until complaints from clubs started piling up.

This.

I’m hoping we don’t get announcement that there is no change for 26/27 but they will continue to monitor and make a decision about 27/28 later.

I’m hoping they don’t overthink this change, should be a no brainer to simplify what’s in the best combined interest for them and their clubs.

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Anonymous wrote:So….will mls next 2 announce they are going SY? GA did….

I think the suspicion now is both MLSN 1 and 2 will announce SY soon but still close to a coin toss chance if I had to guess

If that screenshot is real (it is real by the way), there is no way they come back in a few weeks and say "Sorry for the long wait and massive confusion for our member clubs, but we're not changing anything even though that will be hugely problematic for you as a partner club".

They are obviously debating what and how much to change. So there will 100% be a change in their current BY system. No doubt about that now, but to what extent is the question. Possible scenarios:

1- Total change to SY across the board (still seems unlikely to me but maybe not)
2- Partial SY change (just the P2P clubs at MLSN1 and MLSN2).
3- Just MLSN2 changes to SY
4- Enhanced biobanding allowing Q4 SY players to play 'down'.
5- ? Something else ?

6. All mlsn platforms go 8/1 for the 27/28 season and announce end of summer 26. I don’t see the advantage of changing a year later, but I’ve heard this from multiple people over the past 2 months.

Interesting. That is not power move at all. If true, it means they were unprepared for this, had to change course/strategy and are now going to lame duck an entire year while everyone else acclimates.

"announce end of summer 26". They just posted that they are reviewing this now and how important it is for their member clubs in the 26/27 season. I know they are slow but waiting well over a year (from the messaging they just put out) to make an announcement seems far fetched even for them. There is no way they let their member clubs hang without a decision in the next two months. And once the member clubs know, it will get out so they might as well announce...

Its almost like they dont plan to change from BY.

What messaging are you referring to? The likely fake screenshot posted to reddit?

Yes, that screenshot. It is definitely not fake.

If they don't plan on changing from BY (which is completely fine) then they need to just come out and tell their own damn member clubs who have no clue what is going on or what is going to happen. You don't see how that might be a problem?

I dont see the problem. Eventually MLS Next will need to release its 2026/27 season rules. When they do this everything will be clear. Until then or if they release a statement, BY.

Ok, that will certainly make their member clubs feel good. All of whom are telling parents all kinds of different things because they don't know what is going to happen! The 26/27 rules won't come out until August... Great way to run an organization.

Doesnt this tell you that they intend to stay BY?

If they intend to stay BY why not just come out and say it? Then no guessing is needed. Their own clubs don't know. Should they all just base their tryout season plans on guesses and tea-leaves?

Not saying anything clearly means something is up. It would take 10 seconds to put out an official message that they are staying BY. Then their clubs all know and can plan accordingly.

I'm good friends with the director and an MLSN2 club. The rest of the club is USYS and going to SY. His main competitors in the small-city market are ECRL and NPL. He is pulling his hair out because he has to field questions about this from parents constantly and has heard absolutely nothing from MLSN. How is he going to recruit players over from his competitors if he doesn't even know what the age brackets will be? It is a shit show. But that is cool, I'll just tell him he needs to read between the lines and figure it out for himself.

Likely MLSN is just slow to announce and just waits for prompts from clubs to pile up and/or they were thinking BY all along until complaints from clubs started piling up.

This.

I’m hoping we don’t get announcement that there is no change for 26/27 but they will continue to monitor and make a decision about 27/28 later.

I’m hoping they don’t overthink this change, should be a no brainer to simplify what’s in the best combined interest for them and their clubs.

I hope they stay BY to maintain international Academy relevance and integrity.

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Anonymous wrote:So….will mls next 2 announce they are going SY? GA did….

I think the suspicion now is both MLSN 1 and 2 will announce SY soon but still close to a coin toss chance if I had to guess

If that screenshot is real (it is real by the way), there is no way they come back in a few weeks and say "Sorry for the long wait and massive confusion for our member clubs, but we're not changing anything even though that will be hugely problematic for you as a partner club".

They are obviously debating what and how much to change. So there will 100% be a change in their current BY system. No doubt about that now, but to what extent is the question. Possible scenarios:

1- Total change to SY across the board (still seems unlikely to me but maybe not)
2- Partial SY change (just the P2P clubs at MLSN1 and MLSN2).
3- Just MLSN2 changes to SY
4- Enhanced biobanding allowing Q4 SY players to play 'down'.
5- ? Something else ?

6. All mlsn platforms go 8/1 for the 27/28 season and announce end of summer 26. I don’t see the advantage of changing a year later, but I’ve heard this from multiple people over the past 2 months.

Interesting. That is not power move at all. If true, it means they were unprepared for this, had to change course/strategy and are now going to lame duck an entire year while everyone else acclimates.

"announce end of summer 26". They just posted that they are reviewing this now and how important it is for their member clubs in the 26/27 season. I know they are slow but waiting well over a year (from the messaging they just put out) to make an announcement seems far fetched even for them. There is no way they let their member clubs hang without a decision in the next two months. And once the member clubs know, it will get out so they might as well announce...

Its almost like they dont plan to change from BY.

What messaging are you referring to? The likely fake screenshot posted to reddit?

Yes, that screenshot. It is definitely not fake.

If they don't plan on changing from BY (which is completely fine) then they need to just come out and tell their own damn member clubs who have no clue what is going on or what is going to happen. You don't see how that might be a problem?

I dont see the problem. Eventually MLS Next will need to release its 2026/27 season rules. When they do this everything will be clear. Until then or if they release a statement, BY.

Ok, that will certainly make their member clubs feel good. All of whom are telling parents all kinds of different things because they don't know what is going to happen! The 26/27 rules won't come out until August... Great way to run an organization.

Doesnt this tell you that they intend to stay BY?

If they intend to stay BY why not just come out and say it? Then no guessing is needed. Their own clubs don't know. Should they all just base their tryout season plans on guesses and tea-leaves?

Not saying anything clearly means something is up. It would take 10 seconds to put out an official message that they are staying BY. Then their clubs all know and can plan accordingly.

I'm good friends with the director and an MLSN2 club. The rest of the club is USYS and going to SY. His main competitors in the small-city market are ECRL and NPL. He is pulling his hair out because he has to field questions about this from parents constantly and has heard absolutely nothing from MLSN. How is he going to recruit players over from his competitors if he doesn't even know what the age brackets will be? It is a shit show. But that is cool, I'll just tell him he needs to read between the lines and figure it out for himself.

Likely MLSN is just slow to announce and just waits for prompts from clubs to pile up and/or they were thinking BY all along until complaints from clubs started piling up.

This.

I’m hoping we don’t get announcement that there is no change for 26/27 but they will continue to monitor and make a decision about 27/28 later.

I’m hoping they don’t overthink this change, should be a no brainer to simplify what’s in the best combined interest for them and their clubs.

Well too late for that. They've already 'overthunk' this. From my personal perspective, I would love to know for my family. Our son has a very long commute to play MLSN, and we share that two other families on his team to make it work. He is a fall birthday (one of 4, none in our carpool), and if they change to SY and he is likely going to be moved down, I'd love to start planning/thinking about what we would do without our carpool for practices and games. There are no ECNL options for us. This stuff actually impacts people. I don't know what they're waiting for but, and I feel like I'm beating a dead horse, MLSN absolutely sucks at communications.

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It’s not just mlsn, this entire process has been frustrating. US Soccer should have just made a decision and communicated it last November to start 26/27. Instead, we got information leaking out over the last 8 months. Many people don’t know what is happening even if their league has communicated a decision because so many conflicting statements have been communicated.

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Anonymous wrote:So….will mls next 2 announce they are going SY? GA did….

I think the suspicion now is both MLSN 1 and 2 will announce SY soon but still close to a coin toss chance if I had to guess

If that screenshot is real (it is real by the way), there is no way they come back in a few weeks and say "Sorry for the long wait and massive confusion for our member clubs, but we're not changing anything even though that will be hugely problematic for you as a partner club".

They are obviously debating what and how much to change. So there will 100% be a change in their current BY system. No doubt about that now, but to what extent is the question. Possible scenarios:

1- Total change to SY across the board (still seems unlikely to me but maybe not)
2- Partial SY change (just the P2P clubs at MLSN1 and MLSN2).
3- Just MLSN2 changes to SY
4- Enhanced biobanding allowing Q4 SY players to play 'down'.
5- ? Something else ?

6. All mlsn platforms go 8/1 for the 27/28 season and announce end of summer 26. I don’t see the advantage of changing a year later, but I’ve heard this from multiple people over the past 2 months.

Interesting. That is not power move at all. If true, it means they were unprepared for this, had to change course/strategy and are now going to lame duck an entire year while everyone else acclimates.

"announce end of summer 26". They just posted that they are reviewing this now and how important it is for their member clubs in the 26/27 season. I know they are slow but waiting well over a year (from the messaging they just put out) to make an announcement seems far fetched even for them. There is no way they let their member clubs hang without a decision in the next two months. And once the member clubs know, it will get out so they might as well announce...

Its almost like they dont plan to change from BY.

What messaging are you referring to? The likely fake screenshot posted to reddit?

Yes, that screenshot. It is definitely not fake.

If they don't plan on changing from BY (which is completely fine) then they need to just come out and tell their own damn member clubs who have no clue what is going on or what is going to happen. You don't see how that might be a problem?

I dont see the problem. Eventually MLS Next will need to release its 2026/27 season rules. When they do this everything will be clear. Until then or if they release a statement, BY.

Ok, that will certainly make their member clubs feel good. All of whom are telling parents all kinds of different things because they don't know what is going to happen! The 26/27 rules won't come out until August... Great way to run an organization.

Doesnt this tell you that they intend to stay BY?

If they intend to stay BY why not just come out and say it? Then no guessing is needed. Their own clubs don't know. Should they all just base their tryout season plans on guesses and tea-leaves?

Not saying anything clearly means something is up. It would take 10 seconds to put out an official message that they are staying BY. Then their clubs all know and can plan accordingly.

I'm good friends with the director and an MLSN2 club. The rest of the club is USYS and going to SY. His main competitors in the small-city market are ECRL and NPL. He is pulling his hair out because he has to field questions about this from parents constantly and has heard absolutely nothing from MLSN. How is he going to recruit players over from his competitors if he doesn't even know what the age brackets will be? It is a shit show. But that is cool, I'll just tell him he needs to read between the lines and figure it out for himself.

Likely MLSN is just slow to announce and just waits for prompts from clubs to pile up and/or they were thinking BY all along until complaints from clubs started piling up.

This.

I’m hoping we don’t get announcement that there is no change for 26/27 but they will continue to monitor and make a decision about 27/28 later.

I’m hoping they don’t overthink this change, should be a no brainer to simplify what’s in the best combined interest for them and their clubs.

I hope they stay BY to maintain international Academy relevance and integrity.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not just mlsn, this entire process has been frustrating. US Soccer should have just made a decision and communicated it last November to start 26/27. Instead, we got information leaking out over the last 8 months. Many people don’t know what is happening even if their league has communicated a decision because so many conflicting statements have been communicated.

It really started with USSF limp-dicking their decision. Very poor leadership but that is par for the course here.

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Anonymous wrote:So….will mls next 2 announce they are going SY? GA did….

I think the suspicion now is both MLSN 1 and 2 will announce SY soon but still close to a coin toss chance if I had to guess

If that screenshot is real (it is real by the way), there is no way they come back in a few weeks and say "Sorry for the long wait and massive confusion for our member clubs, but we're not changing anything even though that will be hugely problematic for you as a partner club".

They are obviously debating what and how much to change. So there will 100% be a change in their current BY system. No doubt about that now, but to what extent is the question. Possible scenarios:

1- Total change to SY across the board (still seems unlikely to me but maybe not)
2- Partial SY change (just the P2P clubs at MLSN1 and MLSN2).
3- Just MLSN2 changes to SY
4- Enhanced biobanding allowing Q4 SY players to play 'down'.
5- ? Something else ?

6. All mlsn platforms go 8/1 for the 27/28 season and announce end of summer 26. I don’t see the advantage of changing a year later, but I’ve heard this from multiple people over the past 2 months.

Interesting. That is not power move at all. If true, it means they were unprepared for this, had to change course/strategy and are now going to lame duck an entire year while everyone else acclimates.

"announce end of summer 26". They just posted that they are reviewing this now and how important it is for their member clubs in the 26/27 season. I know they are slow but waiting well over a year (from the messaging they just put out) to make an announcement seems far fetched even for them. There is no way they let their member clubs hang without a decision in the next two months. And once the member clubs know, it will get out so they might as well announce...

Its almost like they dont plan to change from BY.

What messaging are you referring to? The likely fake screenshot posted to reddit?

Yes, that screenshot. It is definitely not fake.

If they don't plan on changing from BY (which is completely fine) then they need to just come out and tell their own damn member clubs who have no clue what is going on or what is going to happen. You don't see how that might be a problem?

I dont see the problem. Eventually MLS Next will need to release its 2026/27 season rules. When they do this everything will be clear. Until then or if they release a statement, BY.

Ok, that will certainly make their member clubs feel good. All of whom are telling parents all kinds of different things because they don't know what is going to happen! The 26/27 rules won't come out until August... Great way to run an organization.

Doesnt this tell you that they intend to stay BY?

If they intend to stay BY why not just come out and say it? Then no guessing is needed. Their own clubs don't know. Should they all just base their tryout season plans on guesses and tea-leaves?

Not saying anything clearly means something is up. It would take 10 seconds to put out an official message that they are staying BY. Then their clubs all know and can plan accordingly.

I'm good friends with the director and an MLSN2 club. The rest of the club is USYS and going to SY. His main competitors in the small-city market are ECRL and NPL. He is pulling his hair out because he has to field questions about this from parents constantly and has heard absolutely nothing from MLSN. How is he going to recruit players over from his competitors if he doesn't even know what the age brackets will be? It is a shit show. But that is cool, I'll just tell him he needs to read between the lines and figure it out for himself.

Likely MLSN is just slow to announce and just waits for prompts from clubs to pile up and/or they were thinking BY all along until complaints from clubs started piling up.

This.

I’m hoping we don’t get announcement that there is no change for 26/27 but they will continue to monitor and make a decision about 27/28 later.

I’m hoping they don’t overthink this change, should be a no brainer to simplify what’s in the best combined interest for them and their clubs.

I hope they stay BY to maintain international Academy relevance and integrity.

Right! that way US can have even more integrity than England and Germany, who do not use Jan 1. And when MLSN plays all those international matches and sells all those players…

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Anonymous wrote:So….will mls next 2 announce they are going SY? GA did….

I think the suspicion now is both MLSN 1 and 2 will announce SY soon but still close to a coin toss chance if I had to guess

If that screenshot is real (it is real by the way), there is no way they come back in a few weeks and say "Sorry for the long wait and massive confusion for our member clubs, but we're not changing anything even though that will be hugely problematic for you as a partner club".

They are obviously debating what and how much to change. So there will 100% be a change in their current BY system. No doubt about that now, but to what extent is the question. Possible scenarios:

1- Total change to SY across the board (still seems unlikely to me but maybe not)
2- Partial SY change (just the P2P clubs at MLSN1 and MLSN2).
3- Just MLSN2 changes to SY
4- Enhanced biobanding allowing Q4 SY players to play 'down'.
5- ? Something else ?

6. All mlsn platforms go 8/1 for the 27/28 season and announce end of summer 26. I don’t see the advantage of changing a year later, but I’ve heard this from multiple people over the past 2 months.

Interesting. That is not power move at all. If true, it means they were unprepared for this, had to change course/strategy and are now going to lame duck an entire year while everyone else acclimates.

"announce end of summer 26". They just posted that they are reviewing this now and how important it is for their member clubs in the 26/27 season. I know they are slow but waiting well over a year (from the messaging they just put out) to make an announcement seems far fetched even for them. There is no way they let their member clubs hang without a decision in the next two months. And once the member clubs know, it will get out so they might as well announce...

Its almost like they dont plan to change from BY.

What messaging are you referring to? The likely fake screenshot posted to reddit?

Yes, that screenshot. It is definitely not fake.

If they don't plan on changing from BY (which is completely fine) then they need to just come out and tell their own damn member clubs who have no clue what is going on or what is going to happen. You don't see how that might be a problem?

I dont see the problem. Eventually MLS Next will need to release its 2026/27 season rules. When they do this everything will be clear. Until then or if they release a statement, BY.

Ok, that will certainly make their member clubs feel good. All of whom are telling parents all kinds of different things because they don't know what is going to happen! The 26/27 rules won't come out until August... Great way to run an organization.

Doesnt this tell you that they intend to stay BY?

If they intend to stay BY why not just come out and say it? Then no guessing is needed. Their own clubs don't know. Should they all just base their tryout season plans on guesses and tea-leaves?

Not saying anything clearly means something is up. It would take 10 seconds to put out an official message that they are staying BY. Then their clubs all know and can plan accordingly.

I'm good friends with the director and an MLSN2 club. The rest of the club is USYS and going to SY. His main competitors in the small-city market are ECRL and NPL. He is pulling his hair out because he has to field questions about this from parents constantly and has heard absolutely nothing from MLSN. How is he going to recruit players over from his competitors if he doesn't even know what the age brackets will be? It is a shit show. But that is cool, I'll just tell him he needs to read between the lines and figure it out for himself.

Likely MLSN is just slow to announce and just waits for prompts from clubs to pile up and/or they were thinking BY all along until complaints from clubs started piling up.

This.

I’m hoping we don’t get announcement that there is no change for 26/27 but they will continue to monitor and make a decision about 27/28 later.

I’m hoping they don’t overthink this change, should be a no brainer to simplify what’s in the best combined interest for them and their clubs.

I hope they stay BY to maintain international Academy relevance and integrity.

Right! that way US can have even more integrity than England and Germany, who do not use Jan 1. And when MLSN plays all those international matches and sells all those players…

Both England and Germany Acadmies use BY groupings

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Anonymous wrote:So….will mls next 2 announce they are going SY? GA did….

I think the suspicion now is both MLSN 1 and 2 will announce SY soon but still close to a coin toss chance if I had to guess

If that screenshot is real (it is real by the way), there is no way they come back in a few weeks and say "Sorry for the long wait and massive confusion for our member clubs, but we're not changing anything even though that will be hugely problematic for you as a partner club".

They are obviously debating what and how much to change. So there will 100% be a change in their current BY system. No doubt about that now, but to what extent is the question. Possible scenarios:

1- Total change to SY across the board (still seems unlikely to me but maybe not)
2- Partial SY change (just the P2P clubs at MLSN1 and MLSN2).
3- Just MLSN2 changes to SY
4- Enhanced biobanding allowing Q4 SY players to play 'down'.
5- ? Something else ?

6. All mlsn platforms go 8/1 for the 27/28 season and announce end of summer 26. I don’t see the advantage of changing a year later, but I’ve heard this from multiple people over the past 2 months.

Interesting. That is not power move at all. If true, it means they were unprepared for this, had to change course/strategy and are now going to lame duck an entire year while everyone else acclimates.

"announce end of summer 26". They just posted that they are reviewing this now and how important it is for their member clubs in the 26/27 season. I know they are slow but waiting well over a year (from the messaging they just put out) to make an announcement seems far fetched even for them. There is no way they let their member clubs hang without a decision in the next two months. And once the member clubs know, it will get out so they might as well announce...

Its almost like they dont plan to change from BY.

What messaging are you referring to? The likely fake screenshot posted to reddit?

Yes, that screenshot. It is definitely not fake.

If they don't plan on changing from BY (which is completely fine) then they need to just come out and tell their own damn member clubs who have no clue what is going on or what is going to happen. You don't see how that might be a problem?

I dont see the problem. Eventually MLS Next will need to release its 2026/27 season rules. When they do this everything will be clear. Until then or if they release a statement, BY.

Ok, that will certainly make their member clubs feel good. All of whom are telling parents all kinds of different things because they don't know what is going to happen! The 26/27 rules won't come out until August... Great way to run an organization.

Doesnt this tell you that they intend to stay BY?

If they intend to stay BY why not just come out and say it? Then no guessing is needed. Their own clubs don't know. Should they all just base their tryout season plans on guesses and tea-leaves?

Not saying anything clearly means something is up. It would take 10 seconds to put out an official message that they are staying BY. Then their clubs all know and can plan accordingly.

I'm good friends with the director and an MLSN2 club. The rest of the club is USYS and going to SY. His main competitors in the small-city market are ECRL and NPL. He is pulling his hair out because he has to field questions about this from parents constantly and has heard absolutely nothing from MLSN. How is he going to recruit players over from his competitors if he doesn't even know what the age brackets will be? It is a shit show. But that is cool, I'll just tell him he needs to read between the lines and figure it out for himself.

Likely MLSN is just slow to announce and just waits for prompts from clubs to pile up and/or they were thinking BY all along until complaints from clubs started piling up.

This.

I’m hoping we don’t get announcement that there is no change for 26/27 but they will continue to monitor and make a decision about 27/28 later.

I’m hoping they don’t overthink this change, should be a no brainer to simplify what’s in the best combined interest for them and their clubs.

I hope they stay BY to maintain international Academy relevance and integrity.

Right! that way US can have even more integrity than England and Germany, who do not use Jan 1. And when MLSN plays all those international matches and sells all those players…

Both England and Germany Acadmies use BY groupings

Lol. No.

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Anonymous wrote:So….will mls next 2 announce they are going SY? GA did….

I think the suspicion now is both MLSN 1 and 2 will announce SY soon but still close to a coin toss chance if I had to guess

If that screenshot is real (it is real by the way), there is no way they come back in a few weeks and say "Sorry for the long wait and massive confusion for our member clubs, but we're not changing anything even though that will be hugely problematic for you as a partner club".

They are obviously debating what and how much to change. So there will 100% be a change in their current BY system. No doubt about that now, but to what extent is the question. Possible scenarios:

1- Total change to SY across the board (still seems unlikely to me but maybe not)
2- Partial SY change (just the P2P clubs at MLSN1 and MLSN2).
3- Just MLSN2 changes to SY
4- Enhanced biobanding allowing Q4 SY players to play 'down'.
5- ? Something else ?

6. All mlsn platforms go 8/1 for the 27/28 season and announce end of summer 26. I don’t see the advantage of changing a year later, but I’ve heard this from multiple people over the past 2 months.

Interesting. That is not power move at all. If true, it means they were unprepared for this, had to change course/strategy and are now going to lame duck an entire year while everyone else acclimates.

"announce end of summer 26". They just posted that they are reviewing this now and how important it is for their member clubs in the 26/27 season. I know they are slow but waiting well over a year (from the messaging they just put out) to make an announcement seems far fetched even for them. There is no way they let their member clubs hang without a decision in the next two months. And once the member clubs know, it will get out so they might as well announce...

Its almost like they dont plan to change from BY.

What messaging are you referring to? The likely fake screenshot posted to reddit?

Yes, that screenshot. It is definitely not fake.

If they don't plan on changing from BY (which is completely fine) then they need to just come out and tell their own damn member clubs who have no clue what is going on or what is going to happen. You don't see how that might be a problem?

I dont see the problem. Eventually MLS Next will need to release its 2026/27 season rules. When they do this everything will be clear. Until then or if they release a statement, BY.

Ok, that will certainly make their member clubs feel good. All of whom are telling parents all kinds of different things because they don't know what is going to happen! The 26/27 rules won't come out until August... Great way to run an organization.

Doesnt this tell you that they intend to stay BY?

If they intend to stay BY why not just come out and say it? Then no guessing is needed. Their own clubs don't know. Should they all just base their tryout season plans on guesses and tea-leaves?

Not saying anything clearly means something is up. It would take 10 seconds to put out an official message that they are staying BY. Then their clubs all know and can plan accordingly.

I'm good friends with the director and an MLSN2 club. The rest of the club is USYS and going to SY. His main competitors in the small-city market are ECRL and NPL. He is pulling his hair out because he has to field questions about this from parents constantly and has heard absolutely nothing from MLSN. How is he going to recruit players over from his competitors if he doesn't even know what the age brackets will be? It is a shit show. But that is cool, I'll just tell him he needs to read between the lines and figure it out for himself.

Likely MLSN is just slow to announce and just waits for prompts from clubs to pile up and/or they were thinking BY all along until complaints from clubs started piling up.

This.

I’m hoping we don’t get announcement that there is no change for 26/27 but they will continue to monitor and make a decision about 27/28 later.

I’m hoping they don’t overthink this change, should be a no brainer to simplify what’s in the best combined interest for them and their clubs.

I hope they stay BY to maintain international Academy relevance and integrity.

Right! that way US can have even more integrity than England and Germany, who do not use Jan 1. And when MLSN plays all those international matches and sells all those players…

Both England and Germany Acadmies use BY groupings

Lol. No.

Lol yes
https://www.bvb.de/de/en/teams/football/youth/academy/youth-teams.html

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Anonymous wrote:So….will mls next 2 announce they are going SY? GA did….

I think the suspicion now is both MLSN 1 and 2 will announce SY soon but still close to a coin toss chance if I had to guess

If that screenshot is real (it is real by the way), there is no way they come back in a few weeks and say "Sorry for the long wait and massive confusion for our member clubs, but we're not changing anything even though that will be hugely problematic for you as a partner club".

They are obviously debating what and how much to change. So there will 100% be a change in their current BY system. No doubt about that now, but to what extent is the question. Possible scenarios:

1- Total change to SY across the board (still seems unlikely to me but maybe not)
2- Partial SY change (just the P2P clubs at MLSN1 and MLSN2).
3- Just MLSN2 changes to SY
4- Enhanced biobanding allowing Q4 SY players to play 'down'.
5- ? Something else ?

6. All mlsn platforms go 8/1 for the 27/28 season and announce end of summer 26. I don’t see the advantage of changing a year later, but I’ve heard this from multiple people over the past 2 months.

Interesting. That is not power move at all. If true, it means they were unprepared for this, had to change course/strategy and are now going to lame duck an entire year while everyone else acclimates.

"announce end of summer 26". They just posted that they are reviewing this now and how important it is for their member clubs in the 26/27 season. I know they are slow but waiting well over a year (from the messaging they just put out) to make an announcement seems far fetched even for them. There is no way they let their member clubs hang without a decision in the next two months. And once the member clubs know, it will get out so they might as well announce...

Its almost like they dont plan to change from BY.

What messaging are you referring to? The likely fake screenshot posted to reddit?

Yes, that screenshot. It is definitely not fake.

If they don't plan on changing from BY (which is completely fine) then they need to just come out and tell their own damn member clubs who have no clue what is going on or what is going to happen. You don't see how that might be a problem?

I dont see the problem. Eventually MLS Next will need to release its 2026/27 season rules. When they do this everything will be clear. Until then or if they release a statement, BY.

Ok, that will certainly make their member clubs feel good. All of whom are telling parents all kinds of different things because they don't know what is going to happen! The 26/27 rules won't come out until August... Great way to run an organization.

Doesnt this tell you that they intend to stay BY?

If they intend to stay BY why not just come out and say it? Then no guessing is needed. Their own clubs don't know. Should they all just base their tryout season plans on guesses and tea-leaves?

Not saying anything clearly means something is up. It would take 10 seconds to put out an official message that they are staying BY. Then their clubs all know and can plan accordingly.

I'm good friends with the director and an MLSN2 club. The rest of the club is USYS and going to SY. His main competitors in the small-city market are ECRL and NPL. He is pulling his hair out because he has to field questions about this from parents constantly and has heard absolutely nothing from MLSN. How is he going to recruit players over from his competitors if he doesn't even know what the age brackets will be? It is a shit show. But that is cool, I'll just tell him he needs to read between the lines and figure it out for himself.

Likely MLSN is just slow to announce and just waits for prompts from clubs to pile up and/or they were thinking BY all along until complaints from clubs started piling up.

This.

I’m hoping we don’t get announcement that there is no change for 26/27 but they will continue to monitor and make a decision about 27/28 later.

I’m hoping they don’t overthink this change, should be a no brainer to simplify what’s in the best combined interest for them and their clubs.

I hope they stay BY to maintain international Academy relevance and integrity.

Right! that way US can have even more integrity than England and Germany, who do not use Jan 1. And when MLSN plays all those international matches and sells all those players…

Both England and Germany Acadmies use BY groupings

Lol. No.

Lol yes
https://www.bvb.de/de/en/teams/football/youth/academy/youth-teams.html

post the same for England please.

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Anonymous wrote:So….will mls next 2 announce they are going SY? GA did….

I think the suspicion now is both MLSN 1 and 2 will announce SY soon but still close to a coin toss chance if I had to guess

If that screenshot is real (it is real by the way), there is no way they come back in a few weeks and say "Sorry for the long wait and massive confusion for our member clubs, but we're not changing anything even though that will be hugely problematic for you as a partner club".

They are obviously debating what and how much to change. So there will 100% be a change in their current BY system. No doubt about that now, but to what extent is the question. Possible scenarios:

1- Total change to SY across the board (still seems unlikely to me but maybe not)
2- Partial SY change (just the P2P clubs at MLSN1 and MLSN2).
3- Just MLSN2 changes to SY
4- Enhanced biobanding allowing Q4 SY players to play 'down'.
5- ? Something else ?

6. All mlsn platforms go 8/1 for the 27/28 season and announce end of summer 26. I don’t see the advantage of changing a year later, but I’ve heard this from multiple people over the past 2 months.

Interesting. That is not power move at all. If true, it means they were unprepared for this, had to change course/strategy and are now going to lame duck an entire year while everyone else acclimates.

"announce end of summer 26". They just posted that they are reviewing this now and how important it is for their member clubs in the 26/27 season. I know they are slow but waiting well over a year (from the messaging they just put out) to make an announcement seems far fetched even for them. There is no way they let their member clubs hang without a decision in the next two months. And once the member clubs know, it will get out so they might as well announce...

Its almost like they dont plan to change from BY.

What messaging are you referring to? The likely fake screenshot posted to reddit?

Yes, that screenshot. It is definitely not fake.

If they don't plan on changing from BY (which is completely fine) then they need to just come out and tell their own damn member clubs who have no clue what is going on or what is going to happen. You don't see how that might be a problem?

I dont see the problem. Eventually MLS Next will need to release its 2026/27 season rules. When they do this everything will be clear. Until then or if they release a statement, BY.

Ok, that will certainly make their member clubs feel good. All of whom are telling parents all kinds of different things because they don't know what is going to happen! The 26/27 rules won't come out until August... Great way to run an organization.

Doesnt this tell you that they intend to stay BY?

If they intend to stay BY why not just come out and say it? Then no guessing is needed. Their own clubs don't know. Should they all just base their tryout season plans on guesses and tea-leaves?

Not saying anything clearly means something is up. It would take 10 seconds to put out an official message that they are staying BY. Then their clubs all know and can plan accordingly.

I'm good friends with the director and an MLSN2 club. The rest of the club is USYS and going to SY. His main competitors in the small-city market are ECRL and NPL. He is pulling his hair out because he has to field questions about this from parents constantly and has heard absolutely nothing from MLSN. How is he going to recruit players over from his competitors if he doesn't even know what the age brackets will be? It is a shit show. But that is cool, I'll just tell him he needs to read between the lines and figure it out for himself.

Likely MLSN is just slow to announce and just waits for prompts from clubs to pile up and/or they were thinking BY all along until complaints from clubs started piling up.

This.

I’m hoping we don’t get announcement that there is no change for 26/27 but they will continue to monitor and make a decision about 27/28 later.

I’m hoping they don’t overthink this change, should be a no brainer to simplify what’s in the best combined interest for them and their clubs.

I hope they stay BY to maintain international Academy relevance and integrity.

Right! that way US can have even more integrity than England and Germany, who do not use Jan 1. And when MLSN plays all those international matches and sells all those players…

Both England and Germany Acadmies use BY groupings

Lol. No.

Lol, Yes...
https://www.cpfc.co.uk/teams/under-18/

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Well known PREM Academies use Sep1.