ECNL moving to school year part 2

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This poster is trying to provoke outrage regarding a group of kids who will be playing their correct age group within the new age range. He’s encouraging coaches to ignore them and other parents to bully them. It’s inappropriate and shouldn’t be on here.

Give me a break. You're getting your nose rubbed in reality and dont like it.

Seems like someone remains unhappy that no one liked it when this idea was framed as SY+30 or 60.

They changed the date from 9/1 to 8/1 wonder why?

You can play up but can't play down and it worked before. Not a mystery.

But what does play up and play down mean?

Are you talking about grade in school?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This poster is trying to provoke outrage regarding a group of kids who will be playing their correct age group within the new age range. He’s encouraging coaches to ignore them and other parents to bully them. It’s inappropriate and shouldn’t be on here.

Give me a break. You're getting your nose rubbed in reality and dont like it.

Seems like someone remains unhappy that no one liked it when this idea was framed as SY+30 or 60.

They changed the date from 9/1 to 8/1 wonder why?

Because no trapped (yeah yeah except holdbacks which I dont care about) is MUCH better than some August birthdates that can play up or with their technical age group. Thats why.

Such crying about the August playing “down” but didnt seem to bother anyone that a third of all teams had kids not playing with their age groups prior.

Such hypocrisy it is astounding………

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This poster is trying to provoke outrage regarding a group of kids who will be playing their correct age group within the new age range. He’s encouraging coaches to ignore them and other parents to bully them. It’s inappropriate and shouldn’t be on here.

Give me a break. You're getting your nose rubbed in reality and dont like it.

Seems like someone remains unhappy that no one liked it when this idea was framed as SY+30 or 60.

They changed the date from 9/1 to 8/1 wonder why?

You can play up but can't play down and it worked before. Not a mystery.

But what does play up and play down mean?

Are you talking about grade in school?

Nope, because no one cares about grade. Play up based on the assigned cutoff dates. Duh.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This poster is trying to provoke outrage regarding a group of kids who will be playing their correct age group within the new age range. He’s encouraging coaches to ignore them and other parents to bully them. It’s inappropriate and shouldn’t be on here.

Give me a break. You're getting your nose rubbed in reality and dont like it.

Seems like someone remains unhappy that no one liked it when this idea was framed as SY+30 or 60.

They changed the date from 9/1 to 8/1 wonder why?

You can play up but can't play down and it worked before. Not a mystery.

But what does play up and play down mean?

Are you talking about grade in school?

If yes this means the soccer gods that pushed for changing from SY to BY did it because of grade in school.

If they made the decision to switch from BY to SY because of grade in school wouldn't it also make sense to implement a rule that younger players than the eligibility window must play on the team thats their grade in school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This poster is trying to provoke outrage regarding a group of kids who will be playing their correct age group within the new age range. He’s encouraging coaches to ignore them and other parents to bully them. It’s inappropriate and shouldn’t be on here.

Give me a break. You're getting your nose rubbed in reality and dont like it.

Seems like someone remains unhappy that no one liked it when this idea was framed as SY+30 or 60.

They changed the date from 9/1 to 8/1 wonder why?

You can play up but can't play down and it worked before. Not a mystery.

But what does play up and play down mean?

Are you talking about grade in school?

If yes this means the soccer gods that pushed for changing from SY to BY did it because of grade in school.

If they made the decision to switch from BY to SY because of grade in school wouldn't it also make sense to implement a rule that younger players than the eligibility window must play on the team thats their grade in school?

No, they specialty said grade doesn't matter in an FAQ.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This poster is trying to provoke outrage regarding a group of kids who will be playing their correct age group within the new age range. He’s encouraging coaches to ignore them and other parents to bully them. It’s inappropriate and shouldn’t be on here.

Give me a break. You're getting your nose rubbed in reality and dont like it.

Seems like someone remains unhappy that no one liked it when this idea was framed as SY+30 or 60.

They changed the date from 9/1 to 8/1 wonder why?

You can play up but can't play down and it worked before. Not a mystery.

But what does play up and play down mean?

Are you talking about grade in school?

If yes this means the soccer gods that pushed for changing from SY to BY did it because of grade in school.

If they made the decision to switch from BY to SY because of grade in school wouldn't it also make sense to implement a rule that younger players than the eligibility window must play on the team thats their grade in school?

No, they specialty said grade doesn't matter in an FAQ.

is this thr section youre referring to?

Aligning with the school-year calendar is a return to a policy in place prior to a 2016 U.S. Soccer decision to move to birth-year registration (January 1 – December 31). The change was made in effort to align with international soccer standards.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This poster is trying to provoke outrage regarding a group of kids who will be playing their correct age group within the new age range. He’s encouraging coaches to ignore them and other parents to bully them. It’s inappropriate and shouldn’t be on here.

Give me a break. You're getting your nose rubbed in reality and dont like it.

Seems like someone remains unhappy that no one liked it when this idea was framed as SY+30 or 60.

They changed the date from 9/1 to 8/1 wonder why?

You can play up but can't play down and it worked before. Not a mystery.

But what does play up and play down mean?

Are you talking about grade in school?

If yes this means the soccer gods that pushed for changing from SY to BY did it because of grade in school.

If they made the decision to switch from BY to SY because of grade in school wouldn't it also make sense to implement a rule that younger players than the eligibility window must play on the team thats their grade in school?

No, they specialty said grade doesn't matter in an FAQ.

is this thr section youre referring to?

Aligning with the school-year calendar is a return to a policy in place prior to a 2016 U.S. Soccer decision to move to birth-year registration (January 1 – December 31). The change was made in effort to align with international soccer standards.

No i think this was the section...

U.S. Soccer performed an assessment of available data (e.g., 2020 U.S. Census & National Center for Education Statistics) and qualitative feedback and determined that September 1 represents most school districts’ calendars (~68%) across the country.

[Anonymous]

Why would anyone care if kids play up?? If a kid can hang with 18 years old, let them play. Obviously playing down is different for fairness but if a young kid wants to play up I can't see a rule passing that prevents that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone care if kids play up?? If a kid can hang with 18 years old, let them play. Obviously playing down is different for fairness but if a young kid wants to play up I can't see a rule passing that prevents that.

No one cares if a kid plays up. Many don't think it's a good idea to force a kid to play up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone care if kids play up?? If a kid can hang with 18 years old, let them play. Obviously playing down is different for fairness but if a young kid wants to play up I can't see a rule passing that prevents that.

Its a ridiculious arguement Aug and youngers are an edge case. Playing with your grade would help out the player and be easier for clubs to manage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This poster is trying to provoke outrage regarding a group of kids who will be playing their correct age group within the new age range. He’s encouraging coaches to ignore them and other parents to bully them. It’s inappropriate and shouldn’t be on here.

Give me a break. You're getting your nose rubbed in reality and dont like it.

Seems like someone remains unhappy that no one liked it when this idea was framed as SY+30 or 60.

They changed the date from 9/1 to 8/1 wonder why?

You can play up but can't play down and it worked before. Not a mystery.

But what does play up and play down mean?

Are you talking about grade in school?

If yes this means the soccer gods that pushed for changing from SY to BY did it because of grade in school.

If they made the decision to switch from BY to SY because of grade in school wouldn't it also make sense to implement a rule that younger players than the eligibility window must play on the team thats their grade in school?

No, because that's partial GY. And because kids decide on when to go to school for a host of other factors other than sports. There are certain advantages to better align to grade but there's always going to be outliers that don't fit that mold and any system needs flexibility to deal with them. And they've communicated that ALL along. That's why it's play up when ability drives the decision.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone care if kids play up?? If a kid can hang with 18 years old, let them play. Obviously playing down is different for fairness but if a young kid wants to play up I can't see a rule passing that prevents that.

Its a ridiculious arguement Aug and youngers are an edge case. Playing with your grade would help out the player and be easier for clubs to manage.

Then let the club decide that. They can strongly encourage Aug-Sep-Oct kids to play with their grade OR not. Then parents can choose, too, for what's best for their kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone care if kids play up?? If a kid can hang with 18 years old, let them play. Obviously playing down is different for fairness but if a young kid wants to play up I can't see a rule passing that prevents that.

Its a ridiculious arguement Aug and youngers are an edge case. Playing with your grade would help out the player and be easier for clubs to manage.

Then let the club decide that. They can strongly encourage Aug-Sep-Oct kids to play with their grade OR not. Then parents can choose, too, for what's best for their kid.

Clubs will already decide to group by grade and not let players play down. What would really help is if a rule was implemented by the league saying that Aug and younger players must play on the team thats their grade in school. Then you wont have the edge case PINA parents hounding clubs to play down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This poster is trying to provoke outrage regarding a group of kids who will be playing their correct age group within the new age range. He’s encouraging coaches to ignore them and other parents to bully them. It’s inappropriate and shouldn’t be on here.

Give me a break. You're getting your nose rubbed in reality and dont like it.

Seems like someone remains unhappy that no one liked it when this idea was framed as SY+30 or 60.

They changed the date from 9/1 to 8/1 wonder why?

You can play up but can't play down and it worked before. Not a mystery.

But what does play up and play down mean?

Are you talking about grade in school?

If yes this means the soccer gods that pushed for changing from SY to BY did it because of grade in school.

If they made the decision to switch from BY to SY because of grade in school wouldn't it also make sense to implement a rule that younger players than the eligibility window must play on the team thats their grade in school?

No, because that's partial GY. And because kids decide on when to go to school for a host of other factors other than sports. There are certain advantages to better align to grade but there's always going to be outliers that don't fit that mold and any system needs flexibility to deal with them. And they've communicated that ALL along. That's why it's play up when ability drives the decision.

Once you understand that this person wants GY all of their argueing makes much more sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone care if kids play up?? If a kid can hang with 18 years old, let them play. Obviously playing down is different for fairness but if a young kid wants to play up I can't see a rule passing that prevents that.

Its a ridiculious arguement Aug and youngers are an edge case. Playing with your grade would help out the player and be easier for clubs to manage.

Then let the club decide that. They can strongly encourage Aug-Sep-Oct kids to play with their grade OR not. Then parents can choose, too, for what's best for their kid.

Clubs will already decide to group by grade and not let players play down. What would really help is if a rule was implemented by the league saying that Aug and younger players must play on the team thats their grade in school. Then you wont have the edge case PINA parents hounding clubs to play down.

No, because then parents will start to want full GY. A July kid in the younger grade will want to be on the younger team. You know, for recruiting, and all.