Bowe Bergdahl

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

We sent him there and it was our responsibly to get him back. If there are some charges pending against him then go through due process. War is hell and people get confused, but you don't write them off over allegations.

Who knows, maybe John McCain violated some flying protocols. Maybe he flew too low or too high, or off course. No one ever said we should consider his service record before we negotiate his release.

He was released and then South Vietnam fell to the Communists. If for some reason we ever need to go back there and fight again we will. That's the way it works.

If those five Taliban soldiers go back and wage war against the US again we may again need to go to war in Afganistan again. That's just the way it works.

There has not been an external attack on the US since 911 and these five members of the Taliban are not going to personally change that fact.

Instead of trying to swift boat good men who served their country you should be asking why Dick Cheney and his entire generation of Republican politicians were able to be draft dodgers and avoid military service in Vietnam.

What bunch of f-king cowards and now they have the balls to criticize this returning home POW.

Where the hell are all the Vietnam Vets on this issue? Where the hell are all the Vietnam Vets who have been complainiing for the past forty years that no one appreciated them and no one gave them a ticker-tape parade when they returned home from Nam? There is a soldier who is being returned home right now from five years in captivity as a POW and he's being dragged through the mud. You belly a ached about not getting a parade and you ride your motorcycles around the beltway celebrating "Rolling Thunder" and bemoaning the POWs we left behind, but you don't have the balls to stand up in defense of Sgt. Bergdahl.

Take those POW flags off your motorcycles and your jackets. You a just as bad as the money grubbing politicians and arms suppliers who sent you to Nam in the first place. You were just part of the plan then and you are still just part of the game today.

Go to your American Legion and VFW Posts. Watch Fox News, complain about how you got screwed and help drag Sgt. Bergdahl through the mud!

You f-king Americans make me sick!


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Your last line reveals a lot. You are not an American.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Astounding.

There were a few men killed looking for Bergdahl. That has not been debated. Men in those units came forward and said out of the six reported, three were not a result. That was good of these soldiers, and it seems liberals here are willing to take the at their word, as I've read

The men in Bergdahll's unit came forward and stated that he went AWOL. They were there, they knew him, and they expected it based on his prior questions to fellow soldiers. This bit of information, liberals here are not willing to consider factual. Not surprising.

Rice came forward saying Bergdahl served honorably. Obama and those in his administration did not expect these soldiers to talk, let alone to conservative media. They clearly do not understand that a good soldier would not allow the families of those killed in action to live on not knowing the truth. Bad miscalculation on the administration's part. Bad.

The Taliban had no reason not to behead him, unless they were getting something from holding him. He was reportedly allowed to carry a gun with them, and shot with them. If you don't think that's unusual, I would advise you to speak to men who were there.

People get killed during wars, that's why they suck! You don't leave anyone behind or is that what you want to do in the future? Perhaps you'd like to be the final arbiter of who is rescued and who gets left behind.

[Anonymous]

People get killed during wars, that's why they suck! You don't leave anyone behind or is that what you want to do in the future? Perhaps you'd like to be the final arbiter of who is rescued and who gets left behind.

I think it is a good thing that he is back. I don't like the exchange. But, you apparently think that Bergdahl's life is more important than those killed looking for him.

[Anonymous]

What I also love, is the media reports a story, and the a White House or a "Pentagon Official" comes up with some talking points about it. The soldiers in his unit say that a soldier who is captured will try to get back to his unit, and magically, a story them appears stating that he tried to escape. Ad nauseam. And so transparent to those of us looking at all sources.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Astounding.

There were a few men killed looking for Bergdahl. That has not been debated. Men in those units came forward and said out of the six reported, three were not a result. That was good of these soldiers, and it seems liberals here are willing to take the at their word, as I've read

The men in Bergdahll's unit came forward and stated that he went AWOL. They were there, they knew him, and they expected it based on his prior questions to fellow soldiers. This bit of information, liberals here are not willing to consider factual. Not surprising.

Rice came forward saying Bergdahl served honorably. Obama and those in his administration did not expect these soldiers to talk, let alone to conservative media. They clearly do not understand that a good soldier would not allow the families of those killed in action to live on not knowing the truth. Bad miscalculation on the administration's part. Bad.

The Taliban had no reason not to behead him, unless they were getting something from holding him. He was reportedly allowed to carry a gun with them, and shot with them. If you don't think that's unusual, I would advise you to speak to men who were there.

People get killed during wars, that's why they suck! You don't leave anyone behind or is that what you want to do in the future? Perhaps you'd like to be the final arbiter of who is rescued and who gets left behind.

It's not about the leaving or not leaving behind, though I know that's a huge liberal talking point meant to distract from the lies. The soldiers in his unit spoke out because Susan Rice lied about him serving honorably.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Astounding.

There were a few men killed looking for Bergdahl. That has not been debated. Men in those units came forward and said out of the six reported, three were not a result. That was good of these soldiers, and it seems liberals here are willing to take the at their word, as I've read

The men in Bergdahll's unit came forward and stated that he went AWOL. They were there, they knew him, and they expected it based on his prior questions to fellow soldiers. This bit of information, liberals here are not willing to consider factual. Not surprising.

Rice came forward saying Bergdahl served honorably. Obama and those in his administration did not expect these soldiers to talk, let alone to conservative media. They clearly do not understand that a good soldier would not allow the families of those killed in action to live on not knowing the truth. Bad miscalculation on the administration's part. Bad.

The Taliban had no reason not to behead him, unless they were getting something from holding him. He was reportedly allowed to carry a gun with them, and shot with them. If you don't think that's unusual, I would advise you to speak to men who were there.

People get killed during wars, that's why they suck! You don't leave anyone behind or is that what you want to do in the future? Perhaps you'd like to be the final arbiter of who is rescued and who gets left behind.

It's not about the leaving or not leaving behind, though I know that's a huge liberal talking point meant to distract from the lies. The soldiers in his unit spoke out because Susan Rice lied about him serving honorably.

That's a lie. She didn't speak until Sunday. Nice try though.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ Just an observation - Conservatives are not the only ones against this exchange. There are plenty of Dems/Liberals speaking out against it. And, there are Conservatives speaking out in support of it. So, go ahead and make this a partisan issue. It is not.

This issue is simply support or oppose, it's bashing Obama for not freeing Bergdahl and then bashing him for freeing Bergdahl. Can you find one individual of any political persuasion that has consistently said, "Bergdahl is a traitor and we should do nothing to free him"? There probably is such a person, but I don't know about him. Rather, I see a lot of conservatives who flip-flopped once Bergdahl was exchanged.

Would we have known he was a traitor if members of his unit hadn't spoken out?

I still don't know if he was a traitor. Every day we learn that much that has been reported previously was wrong. Sadly, few of you have the capacity to admit to being wrong. So, to you, he will always be a traitor regardless of the facts that become known.

Please list the story that is wrong, and the counter-story, in each instance.

[Anonymous]

It's not about the leaving or not leaving behind, though I know that's a huge liberal talking point meant to distract from the lies. The soldiers in his unit spoke out because Susan Rice lied about him serving honorably.

Exactly. The soldiers interviewed have all said they are glad he is back. They have also said they believe he deserted. I don't know how they feel about the exchange.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Astounding.

There were a few men killed looking for Bergdahl. That has not been debated. Men in those units came forward and said out of the six reported, three were not a result. That was good of these soldiers, and it seems liberals here are willing to take the at their word, as I've read

The men in Bergdahll's unit came forward and stated that he went AWOL. They were there, they knew him, and they expected it based on his prior questions to fellow soldiers. This bit of information, liberals here are not willing to consider factual. Not surprising.

Rice came forward saying Bergdahl served honorably. Obama and those in his administration did not expect these soldiers to talk, let alone to conservative media. They clearly do not understand that a good soldier would not allow the families of those killed in action to live on not knowing the truth. Bad miscalculation on the administration's part. Bad.

The Taliban had no reason not to behead him, unless they were getting something from holding him. He was reportedly allowed to carry a gun with them, and shot with them. If you don't think that's unusual, I would advise you to speak to men who were there.

People get killed during wars, that's why they suck! You don't leave anyone behind or is that what you want to do in the future? Perhaps you'd like to be the final arbiter of who is rescued and who gets left behind.

It's not about the leaving or not leaving behind, though I know that's a huge liberal talking point meant to distract from the lies. The soldiers in his unit spoke out because Susan Rice lied about him serving honorably.

That's a lie. She didn't speak until Sunday. Nice try though.

And the soldiers spoke to conservative media this past week. They state, themselves, that's why they spoke out

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Where the hell are all the Vietnam Vets on this issue? Where the hell are all the Vietnam Vets who have been complainiing for the past forty years that no one appreciated them and no one gave them a ticker-tape parade when they returned home from Nam? There is a soldier who is being returned home right now from five years in captivity as a POW and he's being dragged through the mud. You belly a ached about not getting a parade and you ride your motorcycles around the beltway celebrating "Rolling Thunder" and bemoaning the POWs we left behind, but you don't have the balls to stand up in defense of Sgt. Bergdahl.

You really don't get it. Most Vietnam vets appreciate watching out for your fellow soldier. Bergdahl walked away and put his platoon in danger.

Sure, like every Vietnam Vet was as pure as the driven snow; guess again. Like no military personel in Vietnam ever messed up. War is ugly and sad. Most of us who have served have stories we won't tell our children. Like most of us Sgt. Bergdahl may not deserve a Congressional Medal of Honor, but he does not deserve to be spat upon and ridiculed as were many Vietnam Vets when they returned home from war. If you feel you deserved better treatment when you returned home from war, you should be strongly defending Sgt Berdahl's right to come home and rebuild his life.

If you can't do that then you have no right to fly or wear a POW flag.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

It's not about the leaving or not leaving behind, though I know that's a huge liberal talking point meant to distract from the lies. The soldiers in his unit spoke out because Susan Rice lied about him serving honorably.

Exactly. The soldiers interviewed have all said they are glad he is back. They have also said they believe he deserted. I don't know how they feel about the exchange.

I know Luttrell and other special forces question why they didn't raid.

There are also some special forces who question the rescue video, from the positioning of the chopper, to when they frisked Bergdahl, etc. Something is amiss.

[Anonymous]

I thought we had a long standing policy of not negotiating with terrorist for the logical reason that it breeds more terrorism.

I would think that the Bergdahl exchange will endanger Americans not just in Afghanistan but all over the world.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:
It's not about the leaving or not leaving behind, though I know that's a huge liberal talking point meant to distract from the lies. The soldiers in his unit spoke out because Susan Rice lied about him serving honorably.

"Huge liberal talking point" put on sign by guy described as "of an arch-conservative bent":

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ Just an observation - Conservatives are not the only ones against this exchange. There are plenty of Dems/Liberals speaking out against it. And, there are Conservatives speaking out in support of it. So, go ahead and make this a partisan issue. It is not.

This issue is simply support or oppose, it's bashing Obama for not freeing Bergdahl and then bashing him for freeing Bergdahl. Can you find one individual of any political persuasion that has consistently said, "Bergdahl is a traitor and we should do nothing to free him"? There probably is such a person, but I don't know about him. Rather, I see a lot of conservatives who flip-flopped once Bergdahl was exchanged.

Would we have known he was a traitor if members of his unit hadn't spoken out?

I still don't know if he was a traitor. Every day we learn that much that has been reported previously was wrong. Sadly, few of you have the capacity to admit to being wrong. So, to you, he will always be a traitor regardless of the facts that become known.

Please list the story that is wrong, and the counter-story, in each instance.

You are going to have to do some of your own research because I don't have time to go through every detail, but a couple big one:

1) it now appears that Bergdahl didn't leave a letter behind when he left the base. That's important because it was being used as evidence that he defected or renounced his citizenship or even became a Jihadist.

2) several of the soldiers said to have been killed while searching for Bergdahl turn out to have been killed in unconnected action. Of course, any deaths are too many, but the original number was exaggerated.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
It's not about the leaving or not leaving behind, though I know that's a huge liberal talking point meant to distract from the lies. The soldiers in his unit spoke out because Susan Rice lied about him serving honorably.

"Huge liberal talking point" put on sign by guy described as "of an arch-conservative bent":

What a stupid talking point. How the hell were people supposed to know he was a deserter who's desertion helped get other American soldiers killed when his fellow soldiers were under an NDA and not talking?