NYT: Men where have you gone, please come back.

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Anonymous wrote:Cooking, cleaning, and laundry just isn't all that hard. The dudes caterwauling like their dicks will fall off if they have to put forth that level of effort are pretty weak.

I think it's that they have self inflated egos, and think "that's women's work". Very unattractive quality. Only desperate women go for these types.

I don't know. I work in tech, and am married to a wife who graduated from Harvard. I neither cook nor clean because my wife takes care of those things. I do, however, bring home 2M/yr in salary + bonus. All of my colleagues do the same.

All that money and you spend your time here. That's messed up.

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Anonymous wrote:Cooking, cleaning, and laundry just isn't all that hard. The dudes caterwauling like their dicks will fall off if they have to put forth that level of effort are pretty weak.

I think it's that they have self inflated egos, and think "that's women's work". Very unattractive quality. Only desperate women go for these types.

I don't know. I work in tech, and am married to a wife who graduated from Harvard. I neither cook nor clean because my wife takes care of those things. I do, however, bring home 2M/yr in salary + bonus. All of my colleagues do the same.

Safe to say that anyone of means outsources domestic work. We also hire Nannies.

Sure, for some. Others enjoy raising their kids and prefer being self sufficient.

Nobody with money. BTW, nobody enjoys changing shit diapers or dealing with throw up etc.

You can still raise your kids and outsource the shit work (literally).

Not true at all. You must live in a very little bubble if you think that's true.

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Anonymous wrote:American women don't care about men's struggles, they wait at the finish line and pick the winners.

Men’s struggles? Tell us more.

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Anonymous wrote:I think our society is slowly realizing that serial dating (and sleeping around) to the edge of the fertility window is not working and it was better when started pairing off in the early to mid 20s and having babies in their late 20s.

Uh no not really. What alternate reality are you living in

+1 haha. Look at the fertility and marriage rate over the years. People are waiting longer to get married and have kids, if at all.

That's some Project 2025 Gilead wishful thinking there.

I didn’t say behavior was currently changing drastically. I said people are slowly realizing it’s a bad idea and it’s part of the reason the dating scene is such a mess right now.

People like me are outproducing and outperforming people like you so things will shift eventually, it really is just a matter of timing. If hearts and minds change, changes will be quick. If they don’t, we will get there eventually through trial and error and process of elimination.

? well, I'm 54 with two kids. So, sure, you will outperform me in having kids because I'm done. Thank god. I would not want more than two kids. I come from a family of 4 siblings. No way in h3ll would I have ever done that nor advocate for my DD to do that.

People who had a lot of kids back in the day did so because they were too poor to get birth control, like my parents, or due to religion (another form of being somewhat uneducated). Educated women don't want to just be baby making machines.

Perhaps if there was a paradigm shift in our culture where men were expected to be equal partners, women would be more willing to have more children at an earlier age. Alas, until that happens, the trend of not having kids or having a few later in life will continue.

That’s great but recognize you are increasingly part of a dwindling subculture, like a more moderate version of the Shakers.

There are plenty of people still having 3+ kids and most importantly, they and their kids think nothing like you.

I agree it can be difficult for women to have a kid of children if they are only capable of attracting a low quality mate. But women who attract high quality mates don’t have problems to the your family did.

You literally have no basis in reality. People aren’t routinely having 3+ kids because it’s too expensive.

You need to come back to earth, Andrew Tate is lying to you.

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Anonymous wrote:I call this BS. If he cooks, clean, and does his laundry, he is basically a simp.

I’m 42 and I’ve been married 15 years and together for 20.

I guess I’ve reached the age of fatherly wisdom so here goes…

Son, if you think a man who cooks, cleans, and does his own laundry is a “simp” you have no business being a part of society. Where did your parents fail you? If you can’t be self sufficient you have nothing and you are nothing. I was raised by men who could basically do any task they needed to from sewing on a button to field dressing a deer. Clean up your act. You’re a f’ing joke.

Basically you're a "simp".

My father is Chinese, and my mother is Vietnamese, and they have been married for over 50 years. My father never had to cook, clean, or do his own laundry because my mother did everything around the house. My mother taught me how to cook, clean, and do my own laundry so that I know how to do it, but that does not mean I have to do it. I know how to change car tires, oil change, and fix cars, but that does not mean I have to do them. My mother taught me that I should learn the necessary skills (i.e. sports, music, working out), and make a lot of money if I wanted to attract women. My mother also told me that when I get married, my wife should do the cooking, cleaning, and laundry because I am making a lot more $$$ than she does. If she doesn't like it, do not let the door hit her on the way out. A woman will put up with a lot of things with a guy if that guy is way out of her league. That was advices from my mother to me when I was 22 years old. I am now married with a wife and two kids, and I neither cook, clean, nor do laundry because my wife does that.

Any guys that cook, clean, and do laundry are simply simp.

Your mother was raised in a misogynistic culture, old world, and probably grew up post the war, which means she was poor or a refugee. She didn't have that many choices.

My mother also grew up in a poor Asian country, decimated by war, and she too had some misogynistic notions. They can't help it. That's the way they grew up.

I fought that culture tooth and nail. And I'm happy that my DD has more choices, and my DS will have his pick of women because not only is he good looking and very fit, but he earns good money, knows how to cook and keeps his place clean. He's a catch. My DH was like this, and he had no shortage of women.

Your son will have no issues - this is what women have been asking for! Be educated, be kind, share the load. That pp is raising 2 kids who will need a lot of therapy to deprogram what he taught them if they ever want to interact with women in the real world.

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Anonymous wrote:Cooking, cleaning, and laundry just isn't all that hard. The dudes caterwauling like their dicks will fall off if they have to put forth that level of effort are pretty weak.

I think it's that they have self inflated egos, and think "that's women's work". Very unattractive quality. Only desperate women go for these types.

I don't know. I work in tech, and am married to a wife who graduated from Harvard. I neither cook nor clean because my wife takes care of those things. I do, however, bring home 2M/yr in salary + bonus. All of my colleagues do the same.

You make 2m per year and don’t have cleaners? This doesn’t sound believable at all, but then again everyone is a millionaire on the internet.

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Anonymous wrote:The majority of young men these days are unmarriable.

Came for the misandry. Was not disappointed.

It doesn’t matter whether women think they are marriageable. Most young men don’t really want to get married. The ones who are considered appealing by women have zero need of monogamy and accountability to a spouse. The unappealing ones have AI girlfriends and are looking forward to sexbots.

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Anonymous wrote:Cooking, cleaning, and laundry just isn't all that hard. The dudes caterwauling like their dicks will fall off if they have to put forth that level of effort are pretty weak.

I think it's that they have self inflated egos, and think "that's women's work". Very unattractive quality. Only desperate women go for these types.

I don't know. I work in tech, and am married to a wife who graduated from Harvard. I neither cook nor clean because my wife takes care of those things. I do, however, bring home 2M/yr in salary + bonus. All of my colleagues do the same.

First of all, most people, men included on this forum, are not making $2mil.

Secondly, if you are making that much money your wife can outsource everything, including things like cooking, where she can order from Blue Apron.

If you were making $200K , which is more likely for people on this forum and IRL, you cannot outsource everything on that salary. So, in that case, if the man doesn't do anything, the wife would not be happy with him because, more than likely, she is also having to work to afford living around here.

More than likely, your marriage would not be a happy one because she is tired, stressed out from having to do everything.

That is the type of relationship that is common on this forum.

So, again, most men who aren't equal partners are not attractive to most women.

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Anonymous wrote:Men have had it with American women who just take take take and don’t give. Too many gold diggers with the 6/6/6 rule. Passport bros are a real thing. Most men would not want to marry American women especially the ones who post on DCUM.

Men who go to poorer countries to get laid are pathetic and not a catch. Win/win.

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Anonymous wrote:Men have had it with American women who just take take take and don’t give. Too many gold diggers with the 6/6/6 rule. Passport bros are a real thing. Most men would not want to marry American women especially the ones who post on DCUM.

Men who go to poorer countries to get laid are pathetic and not a catch. Win/win.

Exactly. I would encourage them to look elsewhere as they are not wanted here, but then I feel bad for the women of developing countries.

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Anonymous wrote:Men have had it with American women who just take take take and don’t give. Too many gold diggers with the 6/6/6 rule. Passport bros are a real thing. Most men would not want to marry American women especially the ones who post on DCUM.

Men who go to poorer countries to get laid are pathetic and not a catch. Win/win.

These men are a really small group to be fair. The vast majority of men who are left out simple drop out of the dating market, dont bother anyone and get their sexual urges met through pixels.

The men who go overseas often have serious mental health issues.

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Anonymous wrote:Men have had it with American women who just take take take and don’t give. Too many gold diggers with the 6/6/6 rule. Passport bros are a real thing. Most men would not want to marry American women especially the ones who post on DCUM.

Men who go to poorer countries to get laid are pathetic and not a catch. Win/win.

These men are a really small group to be fair. The vast majority of men who are left out simple drop out of the dating market, dont bother anyone and get their sexual urges met through pixels.

The men who go overseas often have serious mental health issues.

+1 they come back to the US and bang American women who also have mental issues.

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Anonymous wrote:Men have had it with American women who just take take take and don’t give. Too many gold diggers with the 6/6/6 rule. Passport bros are a real thing. Most men would not want to marry American women especially the ones who post on DCUM.

Men who go to poorer countries to get laid are pathetic and not a catch. Win/win.

These men are a really small group to be fair. The vast majority of men who are left out simple drop out of the dating market, dont bother anyone and get their sexual urges met through pixels.

The men who go overseas often have serious mental health issues.

You’re right, they’re just a very vocal minority of weirdos.

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Here's what I don't get. Women don't want to be approached in public -- let me live my life in peace!!!! -- but then complain that they aren't meeting anyone and the apps suck. Make it make sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's what I don't get. Women don't want to be approached in public -- let me live my life in peace!!!! -- but then complain that they aren't meeting anyone and the apps suck. Make it make sense.

Some women want to be approached in real life. It's all about reading signals. If someone gets offended, just apologize and move on with life