Why all these stories about fliers not wanting to give up seats?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s way better to be up at 1A or close to it. In the last row of first class you have all the looky-loos in economy trying to stare at you through the privacy shade.

There is business class between 1st and the “looky-loos in economy”. So no, there isn’t any less privacy.

Very few planes have separate first and business class anymore. The only US airline that has it is American on about 10 of their 777-300s. Air France has it on a few 777s but is mostly phasing it out.

I did find the "looky-loo" comment funny, as if someone is staring at you for hours simply because you paid more for a nicer seat.

The lady is flying US to Paris. So, Yes, if there is a first class on the route, there is also a business class between 1st and economy on that route.

A majority of people use “first class” as a synonym for business class these days, since most international flights (outside of an handful of Asian/middle eastern carriers) only offer the latter.

The lady in question posted a picture of her seating assignment. Does that really scream international first class to you?

The statement was made in response to this comment:

"There is business class between 1st and the “looky-loos in economy”. So no, there isn’t any less privacy."

So the clarifying comment was made that it's a single business class cabin. And yes the cabin pictured appeared to be [b]Air France's A350, which does NOT have a separate first class.

And it's not only Asian/Midle Eastern gulf carriers which have a separate first class. AA, BA, Lufthansa and Air France all offer it on some of their longhaul flights, but not usually on the planes which serve Dulles. But you are correct that probably 85-90% of international long haul flights nowadays don't have a separate first class.

Sorry, PP here, it's an Air France 787 serving Seattle, which again does not have a separate first class. Air France only has it on some of their 777-300s and usually only runs it on super premium routes like JFK-CDG and SFO-CDG. They very rarely fly that plane to Dulles.

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Anonymous wrote:If y'all want to sit together, pay for your seats next to each other.

We do. But flights get cancelled and you get rebooked with hours to spare and don’t always get to pick your seats. Have some sympathy.

It happened to me a few months ago. Flight was canceled. Just canceled. I booked another flight on another airline with less than 8 hours notice so we could make our vacation. No seats to choose from. Plus since I bought this those tickets at that last minute it was a gazillion dollars.

Luckily a really nice gate agent helped me - but you have no idea.

It was very stressful and you have no idea why people so t have seats together. Might no be their fault.

So you get to wait. You don't NEED to sit next to your family.

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Anonymous wrote:I haven’t read this whole 27 page post but from now on when I fly solo with my 3 young kids and something happens I will just leave my 2 year old next to whomever they are seated and let them deal. Because obviously that makes sense.

God people are so freaking selfish and rude. The person a few pages up who said they wouldn’t move for a veteran or active duty service person - what entitlement!

You would make a parent sit apart from their kids just to spite them. Instead of being a decent human being you would rather let a young child scream and go through distress. Freaking sociopaths.

DP, but as a military spouse, I wouldn't even do that. Each January, I book 20+ flights for the year (business). I pick my seats at that time, because I'm fat, hate flying, get free premium economy, and know which seats are the most comfortable. I'm. Not. Giving. Them. Up. Your failure to prepare does not constitute an emergency on my part. The entitlement you mention is on the part of the person who expects me to move.

And yeah, my kids and I have been split up. We deal. Even the four year old.

+1 my DH is a marine who served and was injured in Fallujah. He’s disgusted by service members (the majority of whom have never seen active combat) who use the uniform to get perks and would absolutely call them out if he witnessed it happening.