New USNWR rankings coming out in one week. Post predictions here!

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Anonymous wrote:Maryland is (still) woefully underranked.

How so in your view?

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Anonymous wrote:The Chicago thing is crazy because from top private high schools they only matriculate kids who are well out of the top 20%. Maybe this year will be different.

Chicago and Hopkins are T10 oddballs. I’ve never met a kid who dreams of going to either.

you bitter. get over it

Different poster. He's not wrong. They're the only top10 schools that have ED2.
The only reason to have ED2 is to get a second shot at top students who didn't choose you ED1.

Kind of a dumb take. No one EDs to brown, dartmouth, cornell, etc as a dream school. It's because they didn't feel as confident going for HYPSM. I think it's smart to offer ED2. Most people who end up at lower top 10s had bigger dreams but landed at a solid backup.

I am not a big fan of Chicago or Hopkins but their top students are probably smarter than a lot of HYP these days. HYP admissions is not based on academic merit.

I would agree with this, though it is also true at many flagships.

Yes. In fact, due simply to its sheer size, a top public school like Michigan has more 1500+ SAT students in its incoming class than Harvard. The math is simple: In Fall 2024, Michigan has 8858 freshmen and a 75th percentile SAT of 1530, meaning it has 2214 freshmen scoring above 1530. In comparison, Harvard has 1647 freshmen and a 25th percentile SAT of 1500, meaning it has 1235 freshmen scoring above 1500. Of course, both schools were test optional in Fall 2024 which skewed these numbers, but the errors were unlikely to drop Michigan's 2214 below Harvard's 1235, especially when Michigan's threshold was 1530 while Harvard's was 1500. (And of course Harvard is significantly better on a per capita basis, just not the headcount.)

michigan is 51% test submitted. If test required, i suspect 75th percentile is under 1500 easy

PP. Even if Michigan's 75th percentile is 1500, it still has 2214 above 1500 whereas Harvard only has 1235 above 1500 assuming 100% submitted SAT at Harvard. Almost double. Again this is not to say that Michigan is better on a per capita basis. It has more 1500+ scorers than Harvard simply because it is gigantic.

Take a look at national merit scholars. https://www.nationalmerit.org/s/1758/images/gid2/editor_documents/annual_report.pdf?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&gid=2&pgid=61&sessionid=95e8c223-1c14-43e9-96d6-3fcd0d0626cc&cc=1

Harvard has 147. Michigan has 89.

Irrelevant stat

why?

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Anonymous wrote:Go UC Davis! California’s 5th best state school, with a 42% admit rate, is ranked #32 in the country.

How many times can a shark be jumped?

UC Davis is an excellent, all around school, with a charming college town setting, without toxic, competitive students.

In California, it is considered too far from the coast, from the mountains, from SF, even though it would be considered close to them if it were on the east coast.

Davis is a great school. Better than many overpriced privates like wake, emory, and georgetown.

UC Davis-
1160- 1370/25-31
Emory
1470-1550/32-35
Georgetown
1390-1550/30-35

UC Davis is overrated, Emory and GU underrated.

Davis a great school but not in same category by a mile.

According to USNWR, it is. How does your data/analysis differ?

Davis is not T25. Thats Emory's and GUs category.

24 to 32 is not a big difference

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Anonymous wrote:Go UC Davis! California’s 5th best state school, with a 42% admit rate, is ranked #32 in the country.

How many times can a shark be jumped?

UC Davis is an excellent, all around school, with a charming college town setting, without toxic, competitive students.

In California, it is considered too far from the coast, from the mountains, from SF, even though it would be considered close to them if it were on the east coast.

Davis is a great school. Better than many overpriced privates like wake, emory, and georgetown.

UC Davis-
1160- 1370/25-31
Emory
1470-1550/32-35
Georgetown
1390-1550/30-35

UC Davis is overrated, Emory and GU underrated.

Davis a great school but not in same category by a mile.

According to USNWR, it is. How does your data/analysis differ?

I think you are inadvertently making an excellent point: most of us could come up with a much better list out of our arse. The bar is low.

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Anonymous wrote:You can look at the Harvard Westlake data over the past 3 years.

Vandy admit rate 9%
Duke 9%
Princeton 9%
Notre Dame 7%
Hopkins 8%
And I could go on...

Chicago 30% admit rate, and 22% of the admittances had a 3.5 GPA or lower.

They have a different admission standard for private high schools.

Ok

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Anonymous wrote:Go UC Davis! California’s 5th best state school, with a 42% admit rate, is ranked #32 in the country.

How many times can a shark be jumped?

UC Davis is an excellent, all around school, with a charming college town setting, without toxic, competitive students.

In California, it is considered too far from the coast, from the mountains, from SF, even though it would be considered close to them if it were on the east coast.

Davis is a great school. Better than many overpriced privates like wake, emory, and georgetown.

UC Davis-
1160- 1370/25-31
Emory
1470-1550/32-35
Georgetown
1390-1550/30-35

UC Davis is overrated, Emory and GU underrated.

What do you mean, overrated? Test scores comprise 5% of the rankings calculation. https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/how-us-news-calculated-the-rankings#:~:text=Within%20their%20category%2C%20each%20school,education%20leaders%20and%20institutional%20researchers.

Did you not get the message that we think US News’ methodology long ago jumped the shark? We are talking reality here, not what US News says.

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Anonymous wrote:np it's pretty true for our nyc private. not down to top 50%, but top 1/3rd easily. Maybe top 40%. to be fair, quite common to be top half and have a 1550 and awards etc. And maybe only top half because of poor grades in Spanish and you're a STEM kid. In which case, I dont know why any college dings you. This is why I think GPA should be more overlooked by more schools. Chem major who gets Bs in history? Why is this such a disqualifier

No one here cares about what goes on at nyc privates. Truly. Not sure why you spend all your time here.

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Anonymous wrote:The Chicago thing is crazy because from top private high schools they only matriculate kids who are well out of the top 20%. Maybe this year will be different.

this is total bs. chicago has 96% of freshmen in top 10% of class

Not sure what the other poster is using as their basis, but I have 2 kids in 2 different “top privates”. Kids from both schools who’ve gone to Chicago were not well outside top 20%. In fact the opposite.

Same here.

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Anonymous wrote:Go UC Davis! California’s 5th best state school, with a 42% admit rate, is ranked #32 in the country.

How many times can a shark be jumped?

UC Davis is an excellent, all around school, with a charming college town setting, without toxic, competitive students.

In California, it is considered too far from the coast, from the mountains, from SF, even though it would be considered close to them if it were on the east coast.

Davis is a great school. Better than many overpriced privates like wake, emory, and georgetown.

UC Davis-
1160- 1370/25-31
Emory
1470-1550/32-35
Georgetown
1390-1550/30-35

UC Davis is overrated, Emory and GU underrated.

Davis a great school but not in same category by a mile.

According to USNWR, it is. How does your data/analysis differ?

I think you are inadvertently making an excellent point: most of us could come up with a much better list out of our arse. The bar is low.

Actually that was the point I was trying to make. According to USNWR's metrics these are their rankings. Posters are proceeding to claim they are "wrong" and certain schools are over/under ranked. Its their damn rankings. Find another or come up with your own that meets your narrative.

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Anonymous wrote:Still vastly overranks public’s especially the underfunded uc system. Until the undo the changes from two years ago, garbage in, garbage out.

All of the publics are 5 spots too high.

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Anonymous wrote:Maryland is (still) woefully underranked.

How so in your view?

Body lice

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Anonymous wrote:Go UC Davis! California’s 5th best state school, with a 42% admit rate, is ranked #32 in the country.

How many times can a shark be jumped?

UC Davis is an excellent, all around school, with a charming college town setting, without toxic, competitive students.

In California, it is considered too far from the coast, from the mountains, from SF, even though it would be considered close to them if it were on the east coast.

Davis is a great school. Better than many overpriced privates like wake, emory, and georgetown.

UC Davis-
1160- 1370/25-31
Emory
1470-1550/32-35
Georgetown
1390-1550/30-35

UC Davis is overrated, Emory and GU underrated.

What do you mean, overrated? Test scores comprise 5% of the rankings calculation. https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/how-us-news-calculated-the-rankings#:~:text=Within%20their%20category%2C%20each%20school,education%20leaders%20and%20institutional%20researchers.

Did you not get the message that we think US News’ methodology long ago jumped the shark? We are talking reality here, not what US News says.

Then start a new thread. This topic is USNWR.

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Anonymous wrote:Go UC Davis! California’s 5th best state school, with a 42% admit rate, is ranked #32 in the country.

How many times can a shark be jumped?

UC Davis is an excellent, all around school, with a charming college town setting, without toxic, competitive students.

In California, it is considered too far from the coast, from the mountains, from SF, even though it would be considered close to them if it were on the east coast.

Davis is a great school. Better than many overpriced privates like wake, emory, and georgetown.

UC Davis-
1160- 1370/25-31
Emory
1470-1550/32-35
Georgetown
1390-1550/30-35

UC Davis is overrated, Emory and GU underrated.

Davis a great school but not in same category by a mile.

According to USNWR, it is. How does your data/analysis differ?

I think you are inadvertently making an excellent point: most of us could come up with a much better list out of our arse. The bar is low.

Actually that was the point I was trying to make. According to USNWR's metrics these are their rankings. Posters are proceeding to claim they are "wrong" and certain schools are over/under ranked. It’s their damn rankings. Find another or come up with your own that meets your narrative.

Nobody, but you, is implying that US News miscalculated using its own, flawed methodology. We are commenting on shark jumping distance, like watching a train wreck.

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Anonymous wrote:Still vastly overranks public’s especially the underfunded uc system. Until the undo the changes from two years ago, garbage in, garbage out.

All of the publics are 5 spots too high.

More like 10, 20, or more.

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UChicago #6!!!