King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS can use this property as a stand alone special ed or alternative school, or a magnet HS. They aren't locked into using it as a regular HS.

Given that they looked high and low for ten years for land suitable for a Western HS, this property being for sale and basically turnkey is incredibly lucky.

I agree this is a rare smart call by fcps admin.

They won't do that, precisely because the "Western HS" to which you refer was never envisionsed as a stand-alone special education, alternative, or magnet HS.

It would be the classic case of Lucy pulling the football away from Charlie Brown at the last second.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I really don't see any downsides to this property. Someone explain to me the motivations behind the naysayers?

1. Great Falls families concerned that this will create even more capacity at Herndon for them to be moved to. 2. The people who hate on FCPS for everything.

Everyone else is excited about this opportunity and believes it smart that FCPS jumped on it. And some of us are surprised that the did the right thing this time!

1. How will this create more capacity at Herndon when no one has suggested moving anyone at Herndon to this school? Every suggestion involves moving people at Westfield, South Lakes, Chantilly and/or Oakton to this school.

2. It's both false and lazy to suggest anyone outside Great Falls asking questions here hates on FCPS for everything, even if FCPS is certainly giving people plenty to dislike. The waste, along with the lack of transparency and consistency in FCPS's decisions, is enough to make anyone paying attention uncomfortable with current FCPS stewardship.

+1. No one is talking about moving a high school with a major anticipated under capacity into the new school. Only those with an agenda would push for that “solution” in search of a problem.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS can use this property as a stand alone special ed or alternative school, or a magnet HS. They aren't locked into using it as a regular HS.

Given that they looked high and low for ten years for land suitable for a Western HS, this property being for sale and basically turnkey is incredibly lucky.

I agree this is a rare smart call by fcps admin.

They won't do that, precisely because the "Western HS" to which you refer was never envisionsed as a stand-alone special education, alternative, or magnet HS.

It would be the classic case of Lucy pulling the football away from Charlie Brown at the last second.

It gives them options.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCPS can use this property as a stand alone special ed or alternative school, or a magnet HS. They aren't locked into using it as a regular HS.

Given that they looked high and low for ten years for land suitable for a Western HS, this property being for sale and basically turnkey is incredibly lucky.

I agree this is a rare smart call by fcps admin.

They won't do that, precisely because the "Western HS" to which you refer was never envisionsed as a stand-alone special education, alternative, or magnet HS.

It would be the classic case of Lucy pulling the football away from Charlie Brown at the last second.

It gives them options.

Which we already know they won't exercise and are therefore illusory.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really don't see any downsides to this property. Someone explain to me the motivations behind the naysayers?

1. Great Falls families concerned that this will create even more capacity at Herndon for them to be moved to. 2. The people who hate on FCPS for everything.

Everyone else is excited about this opportunity and believes it smart that FCPS jumped on it. And some of us are surprised that the did the right thing this time!

1. How will this create more capacity at Herndon when no one has suggested moving anyone at Herndon to this school? Every suggestion involves moving people at Westfield, South Lakes, Chantilly and/or Oakton to this school.

2. It's both false and lazy to suggest anyone outside Great Falls asking questions here hates on FCPS for everything, even if FCPS is certainly giving people plenty to dislike. The waste, along with the lack of transparency and consistency in FCPS's decisions, is enough to make anyone paying attention uncomfortable with current FCPS stewardship.

Huh? FCPS hasn’t provided any ideas yet. Do you think DCUM posts are the controlling guidance?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS can use this property as a stand alone special ed or alternative school, or a magnet HS. They aren't locked into using it as a regular HS.

Given that they looked high and low for ten years for land suitable for a Western HS, this property being for sale and basically turnkey is incredibly lucky.

I agree this is a rare smart call by fcps admin.

They won't do that, precisely because the "Western HS" to which you refer was never envisionsed as a stand-alone special education, alternative, or magnet HS.

It would be the classic case of Lucy pulling the football away from Charlie Brown at the last second.

It gives them options.

DP. I doubt a performing and fine arts high school would work with job prospects fairly dim except for the most talented who end up at the Julliard or John’s Hopkins/Peabody. Even fine arts graduates from RISD, Cooper Union, etc., aren’t finding high paying jobs left and right. The job landscape is evolving, and the only sure bet for a focus school is a STEM or career/tech academy. But FCPS already has programs for that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wealthy Saudis used to special treatment and hand-holding, LOL. I am honestly shocked that you expect FCPS to reach out to EVERY private school in its boundary that closes to personally counsel students on their options. All the info is on their website.

FCPS isn’t paying $150M to acquire every such school, and then likely needing to engage in several months of due diligence thereafter before closing a deal. Perfect opportunity to be decent human beings, something that apparently doesn’t align with your value system.

Are you a parent with a child in that school? It should be KAA's responsibility to help place all of its students. The administration are the ones who decided to close the school in the middle of the school year, FCPS just bought something no one else wanted.

You're being a ridiculously argumentative tool about something minor that ought to be a simple courtesy given the ongoing discussions that FCPS will be having with KAA.

All it need entail is making sure KAA staff is aware of resources and contacts within FCPS for affected families to speak with if interested.

I think you're the one being unreasonable. All of this information is available to the families very easily.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really don't see any downsides to this property. Someone explain to me the motivations behind the naysayers?

1. Great Falls families concerned that this will create even more capacity at Herndon for them to be moved to. 2. The people who hate on FCPS for everything.

Everyone else is excited about this opportunity and believes it smart that FCPS jumped on it. And some of us are surprised that the did the right thing this time!

1. How will this create more capacity at Herndon when no one has suggested moving anyone at Herndon to this school? Every suggestion involves moving people at Westfield, South Lakes, Chantilly and/or Oakton to this school.

2. It's both false and lazy to suggest anyone outside Great Falls asking questions here hates on FCPS for everything, even if FCPS is certainly giving people plenty to dislike. The waste, along with the lack of transparency and consistency in FCPS's decisions, is enough to make anyone paying attention uncomfortable with current FCPS stewardship.

Huh? FCPS hasn’t provided any ideas yet. Do you think DCUM posts are the controlling guidance?

So you're claiming Great Falls posters are reacting to possibilities that no one in a very active thread has raised and which those who are posting would actually discourage since it would reduce their own odds of being assigned to a new school?

You really do know how to tie yourself into knots.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wealthy Saudis used to special treatment and hand-holding, LOL. I am honestly shocked that you expect FCPS to reach out to EVERY private school in its boundary that closes to personally counsel students on their options. All the info is on their website.

FCPS isn’t paying $150M to acquire every such school, and then likely needing to engage in several months of due diligence thereafter before closing a deal. Perfect opportunity to be decent human beings, something that apparently doesn’t align with your value system.

Are you a parent with a child in that school? It should be KAA's responsibility to help place all of its students. The administration are the ones who decided to close the school in the middle of the school year, FCPS just bought something no one else wanted.

You're being a ridiculously argumentative tool about something minor that ought to be a simple courtesy given the ongoing discussions that FCPS will be having with KAA.

All it need entail is making sure KAA staff is aware of resources and contacts within FCPS for affected families to speak with if interested.

I think you're the one being unreasonable. All of this information is available to the families very easily.

If you're familiar with FCPS, which is why some basic courtesies shown to others who may be less familiar with FCPS might go a long way.

You're the sort of person who makes waiters want to spit in your food in the kitchen before it's served.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wealthy Saudis used to special treatment and hand-holding, LOL. I am honestly shocked that you expect FCPS to reach out to EVERY private school in its boundary that closes to personally counsel students on their options. All the info is on their website.

FCPS isn’t paying $150M to acquire every such school, and then likely needing to engage in several months of due diligence thereafter before closing a deal. Perfect opportunity to be decent human beings, something that apparently doesn’t align with your value system.

Are you a parent with a child in that school? It should be KAA's responsibility to help place all of its students. The administration are the ones who decided to close the school in the middle of the school year, FCPS just bought something no one else wanted.

You're being a ridiculously argumentative tool about something minor that ought to be a simple courtesy given the ongoing discussions that FCPS will be having with KAA.

All it need entail is making sure KAA staff is aware of resources and contacts within FCPS for affected families to speak with if interested.

I think you're the one being unreasonable. All of this information is available to the families very easily.

If you're familiar with FCPS, which is why some basic courtesies shown to others who may be less familiar with FCPS might go a long way.

You're the sort of person who makes waiters want to spit in your food in the kitchen before it's served.

Only the trashiest of people ever even consider spitting in someone's food, no matter how rude they are. I've worked in restaurants. That just isn't a thing a normal person even thinks about.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wealthy Saudis used to special treatment and hand-holding, LOL. I am honestly shocked that you expect FCPS to reach out to EVERY private school in its boundary that closes to personally counsel students on their options. All the info is on their website.

FCPS isn’t paying $150M to acquire every such school, and then likely needing to engage in several months of due diligence thereafter before closing a deal. Perfect opportunity to be decent human beings, something that apparently doesn’t align with your value system.

Are you a parent with a child in that school? It should be KAA's responsibility to help place all of its students. The administration are the ones who decided to close the school in the middle of the school year, FCPS just bought something no one else wanted.

You're being a ridiculously argumentative tool about something minor that ought to be a simple courtesy given the ongoing discussions that FCPS will be having with KAA.

All it need entail is making sure KAA staff is aware of resources and contacts within FCPS for affected families to speak with if interested.

I think you're the one being unreasonable. All of this information is available to the families very easily.

If you're familiar with FCPS, which is why some basic courtesies shown to others who may be less familiar with FCPS might go a long way.

You're the sort of person who makes waiters want to spit in your food in the kitchen before it's served.

Only the trashiest of people ever even consider spitting in someone's food, no matter how rude they are. I've worked in restaurants. That just isn't a thing a normal person even thinks about.

Only a trashy person would fight so hard against the idea that one party to a significant RE transaction would extend some basic, and very low-cost, courtesies to a counter-party. That's not how normal people behave, but perhaps you have some weird bias against Muslims and want to lay claim to their former school and pretend they were never there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I really don't see any downsides to this property. Someone explain to me the motivations behind the naysayers?

I think people are concerned with FCPS constantly saying they have no money. Cutting tons of jobs because of a budget shortfall (classroom monitors, AART teachers, special ed heads in schools etc) but can fund and operate a new high school? With what money

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wealthy Saudis used to special treatment and hand-holding, LOL. I am honestly shocked that you expect FCPS to reach out to EVERY private school in its boundary that closes to personally counsel students on their options. All the info is on their website.

FCPS isn’t paying $150M to acquire every such school, and then likely needing to engage in several months of due diligence thereafter before closing a deal. Perfect opportunity to be decent human beings, something that apparently doesn’t align with your value system.

Are you a parent with a child in that school? It should be KAA's responsibility to help place all of its students. The administration are the ones who decided to close the school in the middle of the school year, FCPS just bought something no one else wanted.

You're being a ridiculously argumentative tool about something minor that ought to be a simple courtesy given the ongoing discussions that FCPS will be having with KAA.

All it need entail is making sure KAA staff is aware of resources and contacts within FCPS for affected families to speak with if interested.

I think you're the one being unreasonable. All of this information is available to the families very easily.

If you're familiar with FCPS, which is why some basic courtesies shown to others who may be less familiar with FCPS might go a long way.

You're the sort of person who makes waiters want to spit in your food in the kitchen before it's served.

Only the trashiest of people ever even consider spitting in someone's food, no matter how rude they are. I've worked in restaurants. That just isn't a thing a normal person even thinks about.

Only a trashy person would fight so hard against the idea that one party to a significant RE transaction would extend some basic, and very low-cost, courtesies to a counter-party. That's not how normal people behave, but perhaps you have some weird bias against Muslims and want to lay claim to their former school and pretend they were never there.

DP but I don’t understand why you think FCPS has any obligation to do what you’re describing. The info is publicly available. You mean to tell me people who did their research to select a private school can’t do their research about a public school district? What is so special about the KAA community that you think they are not capable of figuring things out? Do you not understand how public school works? It’s take it or leave it. Period. You’re not special.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wealthy Saudis used to special treatment and hand-holding, LOL. I am honestly shocked that you expect FCPS to reach out to EVERY private school in its boundary that closes to personally counsel students on their options. All the info is on their website.

FCPS isn’t paying $150M to acquire every such school, and then likely needing to engage in several months of due diligence thereafter before closing a deal. Perfect opportunity to be decent human beings, something that apparently doesn’t align with your value system.

Are you a parent with a child in that school? It should be KAA's responsibility to help place all of its students. The administration are the ones who decided to close the school in the middle of the school year, FCPS just bought something no one else wanted.

You're being a ridiculously argumentative tool about something minor that ought to be a simple courtesy given the ongoing discussions that FCPS will be having with KAA.

All it need entail is making sure KAA staff is aware of resources and contacts within FCPS for affected families to speak with if interested.

I think you're the one being unreasonable. All of this information is available to the families very easily.

If you're familiar with FCPS, which is why some basic courtesies shown to others who may be less familiar with FCPS might go a long way.

You're the sort of person who makes waiters want to spit in your food in the kitchen before it's served.

Only the trashiest of people ever even consider spitting in someone's food, no matter how rude they are. I've worked in restaurants. That just isn't a thing a normal person even thinks about.

Only a trashy person would fight so hard against the idea that one party to a significant RE transaction would extend some basic, and very low-cost, courtesies to a counter-party. That's not how normal people behave, but perhaps you have some weird bias against Muslims and want to lay claim to their former school and pretend they were never there.

You are seriously arguing that FCPS is responsible for doing something extra for the KAA families because FCPS bought the building? The KAA administration had a responsibility to help the families find a new school before the end of the year. That could have been helping them find a good fit with another private school or helping them understand their public school options. But that was the KAA administration's responsibility, not the organization that buys the building.

I am not responsible for helping the family whose house I buy find a new home. That is their individual responsibility. Same in this case. KAA families need to have worked with the adminstration to find a new school or the Saudi government who stopped sponsoring the school.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wealthy Saudis used to special treatment and hand-holding, LOL. I am honestly shocked that you expect FCPS to reach out to EVERY private school in its boundary that closes to personally counsel students on their options. All the info is on their website.

FCPS isn’t paying $150M to acquire every such school, and then likely needing to engage in several months of due diligence thereafter before closing a deal. Perfect opportunity to be decent human beings, something that apparently doesn’t align with your value system.

Are you a parent with a child in that school? It should be KAA's responsibility to help place all of its students. The administration are the ones who decided to close the school in the middle of the school year, FCPS just bought something no one else wanted.

You're being a ridiculously argumentative tool about something minor that ought to be a simple courtesy given the ongoing discussions that FCPS will be having with KAA.

All it need entail is making sure KAA staff is aware of resources and contacts within FCPS for affected families to speak with if interested.

I think you're the one being unreasonable. All of this information is available to the families very easily.

If you're familiar with FCPS, which is why some basic courtesies shown to others who may be less familiar with FCPS might go a long way.

You're the sort of person who makes waiters want to spit in your food in the kitchen before it's served.

Only the trashiest of people ever even consider spitting in someone's food, no matter how rude they are. I've worked in restaurants. That just isn't a thing a normal person even thinks about.

Only a trashy person would fight so hard against the idea that one party to a significant RE transaction would extend some basic, and very low-cost, courtesies to a counter-party. That's not how normal people behave, but perhaps you have some weird bias against Muslims and want to lay claim to their former school and pretend they were never there.

DP but I don’t understand why you think FCPS has any obligation to do what you’re describing. The info is publicly available. You mean to tell me people who did their research to select a private school can’t do their research about a public school district? What is so special about the KAA community that you think they are not capable of figuring things out? Do you not understand how public school works? It’s take it or leave it. Period. You’re not special.

What do you think we’re talking about here? The suggestion was that, in the context of discussions that FCPS would invariably have with KAA folks if they are going to close this deal, FCPS staff could provide KAA with contact information in the event KAA families want to learn more about programs and resources available within FCPS.

It’s not a heavy lift at all, and yet you folks are acting like it’s special treatment. It really leaves me with an incredibly negative impression of families in the Carson area.