New TJ principal announced

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Anonymous wrote:I am hopeful that the new principal can keep the low stress environment without abandoning rigor.

For a change, the new principal has STEM background. Merit is back, beginning with the new principal.


Bonitatibus has a computer science background.

Maybe for a change you can try to post something truthful?



She has a what?

It says she graduated from indiana university of pennsylvania in communications education.

Nothing about computer science, english or math. I'm not saying you need a degree to teach those subjects at the high school level but just saying you have a background in computer science doesn't make it so.

I think she is perfectly well qualified to be a principal of a base school but TJ needs a principal that understands gifted education and why it is not a waste of taxpayer money like so many on DCUM seem to think.



If you can say that he “has a STEM background”, then you can say that about her as well.

Both studied STEM in college; both went directly into teaching; both taught math in the past.

He did more STEM in college but that doesn’t mean she did zero.


Does a college student who takes a required distributional course in "physics for poets" count as studying STEM in college by your definition?


She did enough to be qualified to teach math and has mentioned her background in computer science in college.

Is she the STEMiest person out there? No. But she does have a “STEM background” if we are considering his background to be a “STEM background” (AKA studied and taught STEM topics decades ago).


Looks like you are having a hard time accepting it. But FCPS is letting her go due to poor performance.


They didn’t let her go. She received a promotion.

I have no problem with the transition - Mukai sounds great. I just hate liars.

Moved to a back office role, no one hears about or cares. Just glad TJ is turning the corner with qualified leadership.



Bonitatibus is qualified.



She has lost the confidence of the students, the faculty and the parents. She could no longer be effective in her role. She chose political alignment with the FCPS board over the mission of the school.


#fakenews She was a great principal who did great things for TJ and the county.


She facilitated a push to change admission standards that discriminated against asians.
Asians constituted the overwhelming majority of her students and families.
The asians at at TJ either hate her or hate their own race.


Fake news from RWNJ trolls.

No discrimination.

Many Asian people, including TJ students and alum, support the change.


It's so laughable really. I mean the school is majority Asian. Asian enrollment is at a historic high and the largest beneficiaries of the change were again Asians.


Asians are the only racial group[ thaty saw a decline in admissions.


You mean, Asian students from affluent families.

The Asian students from low-income families saw the biggest increase in representation.


When you data scrape subsets of data to find a subset that supports your argument, you have a weak argument.
We measure racial discrimination along racial lines and you are using a subset of a racial group that has seen an increase.
The racial group that saw the largest increase were white students.
The only group that saw a decrease were asian students.
This was by design.


Since we are talking about the analysis in the court case — the justices called out the low-income students as highest beneficiaries — the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students also saw huge increases in representation.

If we also look at actual enrollment and yield, we see that white students didn’t have the largest increase, even though they make up the plurality. They just aren’t as interested in TJ - lower application and acceptance rates.


Circuit court judges are not called justices.
They were looking for reasons to avoid acknowledging the racial discrimination.

When you analyze racial discrimination, you look at the racial group, you don't pore over the data until you find some subset of that discriminated group that did better than average.

If we are talking about racial discrimination in admissions, we look at admissions data, not matriculation data.


Again, the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students saw huge increases in representation.

Before the change, the admission rate for black students was 25% of the admission rate for Asian students. Then, went up to 75% after the change. Still less than the 80% guideline.

The disparate impact for black students has lessened significantly but still remains after the change.

So by your explanation this admissions change is nothing but racial percentage manipulation.


No, the admissions change was about opening up TJ to all middle schools.
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Anonymous wrote:I am hopeful that the new principal can keep the low stress environment without abandoning rigor.

For a change, the new principal has STEM background. Merit is back, beginning with the new principal.


Bonitatibus has a computer science background.

Maybe for a change you can try to post something truthful?



She has a what?

It says she graduated from indiana university of pennsylvania in communications education.

Nothing about computer science, english or math. I'm not saying you need a degree to teach those subjects at the high school level but just saying you have a background in computer science doesn't make it so.

I think she is perfectly well qualified to be a principal of a base school but TJ needs a principal that understands gifted education and why it is not a waste of taxpayer money like so many on DCUM seem to think.



If you can say that he “has a STEM background”, then you can say that about her as well.

Both studied STEM in college; both went directly into teaching; both taught math in the past.

He did more STEM in college but that doesn’t mean she did zero.


Does a college student who takes a required distributional course in "physics for poets" count as studying STEM in college by your definition?


She did enough to be qualified to teach math and has mentioned her background in computer science in college.

Is she the STEMiest person out there? No. But she does have a “STEM background” if we are considering his background to be a “STEM background” (AKA studied and taught STEM topics decades ago).


Looks like you are having a hard time accepting it. But FCPS is letting her go due to poor performance.


They didn’t let her go. She received a promotion.

I have no problem with the transition - Mukai sounds great. I just hate liars.

Moved to a back office role, no one hears about or cares. Just glad TJ is turning the corner with qualified leadership.



Bonitatibus is qualified.



She has lost the confidence of the students, the faculty and the parents. She could no longer be effective in her role. She chose political alignment with the FCPS board over the mission of the school.


#fakenews She was a great principal who did great things for TJ and the county.


She facilitated a push to change admission standards that discriminated against asians.
Asians constituted the overwhelming majority of her students and families.
The asians at at TJ either hate her or hate their own race.


Fake news from RWNJ trolls.

No discrimination.

Many Asian people, including TJ students and alum, support the change.


It's so laughable really. I mean the school is majority Asian. Asian enrollment is at a historic high and the largest beneficiaries of the change were again Asians.


Asians are the only racial group[ thaty saw a decline in admissions.


You mean, Asian students from affluent families.

The Asian students from low-income families saw the biggest increase in representation.


When you data scrape subsets of data to find a subset that supports your argument, you have a weak argument.
We measure racial discrimination along racial lines and you are using a subset of a racial group that has seen an increase.
The racial group that saw the largest increase were white students.
The only group that saw a decrease were asian students.
This was by design.


Since we are talking about the analysis in the court case — the justices called out the low-income students as highest beneficiaries — the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students also saw huge increases in representation.

If we also look at actual enrollment and yield, we see that white students didn’t have the largest increase, even though they make up the plurality. They just aren’t as interested in TJ - lower application and acceptance rates.


Circuit court judges are not called justices.
They were looking for reasons to avoid acknowledging the racial discrimination.

When you analyze racial discrimination, you look at the racial group, you don't pore over the data until you find some subset of that discriminated group that did better than average.

If we are talking about racial discrimination in admissions, we look at admissions data, not matriculation data.


Again, the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students saw huge increases in representation.

Before the change, the admission rate for black students was 25% of the admission rate for Asian students. Then, went up to 75% after the change. Still less than the 80% guideline.

The disparate impact for black students has lessened significantly but still remains after the change.


White admits went from 86 in the last year of the old system to 140 last year. An increase of 54
Hispanic admits went from 16 the last uear of the old system to 41. An increase of 25

If we are talking about discrimination in the admissions process, we don't care how many kids accept and attend, we are [/b]ONLY[/b] concerns about admission statistics, not yield.

And you still don't understand disparate impact.


LOL. Speaking of “data scraping”…

White families DGAF about TJ. As demonstrated by application and yield numbers.

You are deflecting from the relevant math on disparate impact. The admissions change lessened the disparate impact of black students. (from 25% of the Asian rate to 75%, still below 80% guideline).

The fact is…there is better representation from kids across the county at TJ today. All MSs, more kids from economically-disadvantaged families, more black and Hispanic kids, more girls, etc.


Disparity /= disparate impact.

Of course white families want TJ. They don't want the work and competition that comes with it.

If you think the TJ mission is to collect a racially and economically representative sample of students from across Fairfax, then the new system does that better.
If you think the TJ mission is to collect the best and brightest students, then the new system is pretty bad.



The best and brightest across the county, not just a handful of affluent MSs.

Disparate impact is measured by the 80% rule.
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Anonymous wrote:I am hopeful that the new principal can keep the low stress environment without abandoning rigor.

For a change, the new principal has STEM background. Merit is back, beginning with the new principal.


Bonitatibus has a computer science background.

Maybe for a change you can try to post something truthful?



She has a what?

It says she graduated from indiana university of pennsylvania in communications education.

Nothing about computer science, english or math. I'm not saying you need a degree to teach those subjects at the high school level but just saying you have a background in computer science doesn't make it so.

I think she is perfectly well qualified to be a principal of a base school but TJ needs a principal that understands gifted education and why it is not a waste of taxpayer money like so many on DCUM seem to think.



If you can say that he “has a STEM background”, then you can say that about her as well.

Both studied STEM in college; both went directly into teaching; both taught math in the past.

He did more STEM in college but that doesn’t mean she did zero.


Does a college student who takes a required distributional course in "physics for poets" count as studying STEM in college by your definition?


She did enough to be qualified to teach math and has mentioned her background in computer science in college.

Is she the STEMiest person out there? No. But she does have a “STEM background” if we are considering his background to be a “STEM background” (AKA studied and taught STEM topics decades ago).


Looks like you are having a hard time accepting it. But FCPS is letting her go due to poor performance.


They didn’t let her go. She received a promotion.

I have no problem with the transition - Mukai sounds great. I just hate liars.

Moved to a back office role, no one hears about or cares. Just glad TJ is turning the corner with qualified leadership.



Bonitatibus is qualified.



She has lost the confidence of the students, the faculty and the parents. She could no longer be effective in her role. She chose political alignment with the FCPS board over the mission of the school.


#fakenews She was a great principal who did great things for TJ and the county.


She facilitated a push to change admission standards that discriminated against asians.
Asians constituted the overwhelming majority of her students and families.
The asians at at TJ either hate her or hate their own race.


Fake news from RWNJ trolls.

No discrimination.

Many Asian people, including TJ students and alum, support the change.


It's so laughable really. I mean the school is majority Asian. Asian enrollment is at a historic high and the largest beneficiaries of the change were again Asians.


Asians are the only racial group[ thaty saw a decline in admissions.


You mean, Asian students from affluent families.

The Asian students from low-income families saw the biggest increase in representation.


When you data scrape subsets of data to find a subset that supports your argument, you have a weak argument.
We measure racial discrimination along racial lines and you are using a subset of a racial group that has seen an increase.
The racial group that saw the largest increase were white students.
The only group that saw a decrease were asian students.
This was by design.


Since we are talking about the analysis in the court case — the justices called out the low-income students as highest beneficiaries — the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students also saw huge increases in representation.

If we also look at actual enrollment and yield, we see that white students didn’t have the largest increase, even though they make up the plurality. They just aren’t as interested in TJ - lower application and acceptance rates.


Circuit court judges are not called justices.
They were looking for reasons to avoid acknowledging the racial discrimination.

When you analyze racial discrimination, you look at the racial group, you don't pore over the data until you find some subset of that discriminated group that did better than average.

If we are talking about racial discrimination in admissions, we look at admissions data, not matriculation data.


Again, the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students saw huge increases in representation.

Before the change, the admission rate for black students was 25% of the admission rate for Asian students. Then, went up to 75% after the change. Still less than the 80% guideline.

The disparate impact for black students has lessened significantly but still remains after the change.

So by your explanation this admissions change is nothing but racial percentage manipulation.


No, the admissions change was about opening up TJ to all middle schools.


It's always been open to all middle schools.
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Anonymous wrote:I am hopeful that the new principal can keep the low stress environment without abandoning rigor.

For a change, the new principal has STEM background. Merit is back, beginning with the new principal.


Bonitatibus has a computer science background.

Maybe for a change you can try to post something truthful?



She has a what?

It says she graduated from indiana university of pennsylvania in communications education.

Nothing about computer science, english or math. I'm not saying you need a degree to teach those subjects at the high school level but just saying you have a background in computer science doesn't make it so.

I think she is perfectly well qualified to be a principal of a base school but TJ needs a principal that understands gifted education and why it is not a waste of taxpayer money like so many on DCUM seem to think.



If you can say that he “has a STEM background”, then you can say that about her as well.

Both studied STEM in college; both went directly into teaching; both taught math in the past.

He did more STEM in college but that doesn’t mean she did zero.


Does a college student who takes a required distributional course in "physics for poets" count as studying STEM in college by your definition?


She did enough to be qualified to teach math and has mentioned her background in computer science in college.

Is she the STEMiest person out there? No. But she does have a “STEM background” if we are considering his background to be a “STEM background” (AKA studied and taught STEM topics decades ago).


Looks like you are having a hard time accepting it. But FCPS is letting her go due to poor performance.


They didn’t let her go. She received a promotion.

I have no problem with the transition - Mukai sounds great. I just hate liars.

Moved to a back office role, no one hears about or cares. Just glad TJ is turning the corner with qualified leadership.



Bonitatibus is qualified.



She has lost the confidence of the students, the faculty and the parents. She could no longer be effective in her role. She chose political alignment with the FCPS board over the mission of the school.


#fakenews She was a great principal who did great things for TJ and the county.


She facilitated a push to change admission standards that discriminated against asians.
Asians constituted the overwhelming majority of her students and families.
The asians at at TJ either hate her or hate their own race.


Fake news from RWNJ trolls.

No discrimination.

Many Asian people, including TJ students and alum, support the change.


It's so laughable really. I mean the school is majority Asian. Asian enrollment is at a historic high and the largest beneficiaries of the change were again Asians.


Asians are the only racial group[ thaty saw a decline in admissions.


You mean, Asian students from affluent families.

The Asian students from low-income families saw the biggest increase in representation.


When you data scrape subsets of data to find a subset that supports your argument, you have a weak argument.
We measure racial discrimination along racial lines and you are using a subset of a racial group that has seen an increase.
The racial group that saw the largest increase were white students.
The only group that saw a decrease were asian students.
This was by design.


Since we are talking about the analysis in the court case — the justices called out the low-income students as highest beneficiaries — the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students also saw huge increases in representation.

If we also look at actual enrollment and yield, we see that white students didn’t have the largest increase, even though they make up the plurality. They just aren’t as interested in TJ - lower application and acceptance rates.


Circuit court judges are not called justices.
They were looking for reasons to avoid acknowledging the racial discrimination.

When you analyze racial discrimination, you look at the racial group, you don't pore over the data until you find some subset of that discriminated group that did better than average.

If we are talking about racial discrimination in admissions, we look at admissions data, not matriculation data.


Again, the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students saw huge increases in representation.

Before the change, the admission rate for black students was 25% of the admission rate for Asian students. Then, went up to 75% after the change. Still less than the 80% guideline.

The disparate impact for black students has lessened significantly but still remains after the change.


White admits went from 86 in the last year of the old system to 140 last year. An increase of 54
Hispanic admits went from 16 the last uear of the old system to 41. An increase of 25

If we are talking about discrimination in the admissions process, we don't care how many kids accept and attend, we are [/b]ONLY[/b] concerns about admission statistics, not yield.

And you still don't understand disparate impact.


LOL. Speaking of “data scraping”…

White families DGAF about TJ. As demonstrated by application and yield numbers.

You are deflecting from the relevant math on disparate impact. The admissions change lessened the disparate impact of black students. (from 25% of the Asian rate to 75%, still below 80% guideline).

The fact is…there is better representation from kids across the county at TJ today. All MSs, more kids from economically-disadvantaged families, more black and Hispanic kids, more girls, etc.


Disparity /= disparate impact.

Of course white families want TJ. They don't want the work and competition that comes with it.

If you think the TJ mission is to collect a racially and economically representative sample of students from across Fairfax, then the new system does that better.
If you think the TJ mission is to collect the best and brightest students, then the new system is pretty bad.



The best and brightest across the county, not just a handful of affluent MSs.

Disparate impact is measured by the 80% rule.


The best and brightest are not evenly distributed across all middle schools

You don't understand disparate impact and its role in discrimination law. The 80% rule is meant to ferret out unintentional or non-obvious discrimination. It does not apply the same when you are talking about adverse impacts of intentional discrimination. It is absolutely incorrect to say that you can discriminate as long as the group being discriminated against is at least 80% proportionally selected.
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Anonymous wrote:I am hopeful that the new principal can keep the low stress environment without abandoning rigor.

For a change, the new principal has STEM background. Merit is back, beginning with the new principal.


Bonitatibus has a computer science background.

Maybe for a change you can try to post something truthful?



She has a what?

It says she graduated from indiana university of pennsylvania in communications education.

Nothing about computer science, english or math. I'm not saying you need a degree to teach those subjects at the high school level but just saying you have a background in computer science doesn't make it so.

I think she is perfectly well qualified to be a principal of a base school but TJ needs a principal that understands gifted education and why it is not a waste of taxpayer money like so many on DCUM seem to think.



If you can say that he “has a STEM background”, then you can say that about her as well.

Both studied STEM in college; both went directly into teaching; both taught math in the past.

He did more STEM in college but that doesn’t mean she did zero.


Does a college student who takes a required distributional course in "physics for poets" count as studying STEM in college by your definition?


She did enough to be qualified to teach math and has mentioned her background in computer science in college.

Is she the STEMiest person out there? No. But she does have a “STEM background” if we are considering his background to be a “STEM background” (AKA studied and taught STEM topics decades ago).


Looks like you are having a hard time accepting it. But FCPS is letting her go due to poor performance.


They didn’t let her go. She received a promotion.

I have no problem with the transition - Mukai sounds great. I just hate liars.

Moved to a back office role, no one hears about or cares. Just glad TJ is turning the corner with qualified leadership.



Bonitatibus is qualified.



She has lost the confidence of the students, the faculty and the parents. She could no longer be effective in her role. She chose political alignment with the FCPS board over the mission of the school.


#fakenews She was a great principal who did great things for TJ and the county.


She facilitated a push to change admission standards that discriminated against asians.
Asians constituted the overwhelming majority of her students and families.
The asians at at TJ either hate her or hate their own race.


Fake news from RWNJ trolls.

No discrimination.

Many Asian people, including TJ students and alum, support the change.


It's so laughable really. I mean the school is majority Asian. Asian enrollment is at a historic high and the largest beneficiaries of the change were again Asians.


Asians are the only racial group[ thaty saw a decline in admissions.


You mean, Asian students from affluent families.

The Asian students from low-income families saw the biggest increase in representation.


When you data scrape subsets of data to find a subset that supports your argument, you have a weak argument.
We measure racial discrimination along racial lines and you are using a subset of a racial group that has seen an increase.
The racial group that saw the largest increase were white students.
The only group that saw a decrease were asian students.
This was by design.


Since we are talking about the analysis in the court case — the justices called out the low-income students as highest beneficiaries — the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students also saw huge increases in representation.

If we also look at actual enrollment and yield, we see that white students didn’t have the largest increase, even though they make up the plurality. They just aren’t as interested in TJ - lower application and acceptance rates.


Circuit court judges are not called justices.
They were looking for reasons to avoid acknowledging the racial discrimination.

When you analyze racial discrimination, you look at the racial group, you don't pore over the data until you find some subset of that discriminated group that did better than average.

If we are talking about racial discrimination in admissions, we look at admissions data, not matriculation data.


Again, the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students saw huge increases in representation.

Before the change, the admission rate for black students was 25% of the admission rate for Asian students. Then, went up to 75% after the change. Still less than the 80% guideline.

The disparate impact for black students has lessened significantly but still remains after the change.

So by your explanation this admissions change is nothing but racial percentage manipulation.


No, the admissions change was about opening up TJ to all middle schools.


It's always been open to all middle schools.


Not when the process strongly favored kids who gamed the system.
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Anonymous wrote:I am hopeful that the new principal can keep the low stress environment without abandoning rigor.

For a change, the new principal has STEM background. Merit is back, beginning with the new principal.


Bonitatibus has a computer science background.

Maybe for a change you can try to post something truthful?



She has a what?

It says she graduated from indiana university of pennsylvania in communications education.

Nothing about computer science, english or math. I'm not saying you need a degree to teach those subjects at the high school level but just saying you have a background in computer science doesn't make it so.

I think she is perfectly well qualified to be a principal of a base school but TJ needs a principal that understands gifted education and why it is not a waste of taxpayer money like so many on DCUM seem to think.



If you can say that he “has a STEM background”, then you can say that about her as well.

Both studied STEM in college; both went directly into teaching; both taught math in the past.

He did more STEM in college but that doesn’t mean she did zero.


Does a college student who takes a required distributional course in "physics for poets" count as studying STEM in college by your definition?


She did enough to be qualified to teach math and has mentioned her background in computer science in college.

Is she the STEMiest person out there? No. But she does have a “STEM background” if we are considering his background to be a “STEM background” (AKA studied and taught STEM topics decades ago).


Looks like you are having a hard time accepting it. But FCPS is letting her go due to poor performance.


They didn’t let her go. She received a promotion.

I have no problem with the transition - Mukai sounds great. I just hate liars.

Moved to a back office role, no one hears about or cares. Just glad TJ is turning the corner with qualified leadership.



Bonitatibus is qualified.



She has lost the confidence of the students, the faculty and the parents. She could no longer be effective in her role. She chose political alignment with the FCPS board over the mission of the school.


#fakenews She was a great principal who did great things for TJ and the county.


She facilitated a push to change admission standards that discriminated against asians.
Asians constituted the overwhelming majority of her students and families.
The asians at at TJ either hate her or hate their own race.


Fake news from RWNJ trolls.

No discrimination.

Many Asian people, including TJ students and alum, support the change.


It's so laughable really. I mean the school is majority Asian. Asian enrollment is at a historic high and the largest beneficiaries of the change were again Asians.


Asians are the only racial group[ thaty saw a decline in admissions.


You mean, Asian students from affluent families.

The Asian students from low-income families saw the biggest increase in representation.


When you data scrape subsets of data to find a subset that supports your argument, you have a weak argument.
We measure racial discrimination along racial lines and you are using a subset of a racial group that has seen an increase.
The racial group that saw the largest increase were white students.
The only group that saw a decrease were asian students.
This was by design.


Since we are talking about the analysis in the court case — the justices called out the low-income students as highest beneficiaries — the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students also saw huge increases in representation.

If we also look at actual enrollment and yield, we see that white students didn’t have the largest increase, even though they make up the plurality. They just aren’t as interested in TJ - lower application and acceptance rates.


Circuit court judges are not called justices.
They were looking for reasons to avoid acknowledging the racial discrimination.

When you analyze racial discrimination, you look at the racial group, you don't pore over the data until you find some subset of that discriminated group that did better than average.

If we are talking about racial discrimination in admissions, we look at admissions data, not matriculation data.


Again, the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students saw huge increases in representation.

Before the change, the admission rate for black students was 25% of the admission rate for Asian students. Then, went up to 75% after the change. Still less than the 80% guideline.

The disparate impact for black students has lessened significantly but still remains after the change.

So by your explanation this admissions change is nothing but racial percentage manipulation.


No, the admissions change was about opening up TJ to all middle schools.


It's always been open to all middle schools.


Not when the process strongly favored kids who gamed the system.


Liar. It was always open to kids at all middle schools.
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Anonymous wrote:I am hopeful that the new principal can keep the low stress environment without abandoning rigor.

For a change, the new principal has STEM background. Merit is back, beginning with the new principal.


Bonitatibus has a computer science background.

Maybe for a change you can try to post something truthful?



She has a what?

It says she graduated from indiana university of pennsylvania in communications education.

Nothing about computer science, english or math. I'm not saying you need a degree to teach those subjects at the high school level but just saying you have a background in computer science doesn't make it so.

I think she is perfectly well qualified to be a principal of a base school but TJ needs a principal that understands gifted education and why it is not a waste of taxpayer money like so many on DCUM seem to think.



If you can say that he “has a STEM background”, then you can say that about her as well.

Both studied STEM in college; both went directly into teaching; both taught math in the past.

He did more STEM in college but that doesn’t mean she did zero.


Does a college student who takes a required distributional course in "physics for poets" count as studying STEM in college by your definition?


She did enough to be qualified to teach math and has mentioned her background in computer science in college.

Is she the STEMiest person out there? No. But she does have a “STEM background” if we are considering his background to be a “STEM background” (AKA studied and taught STEM topics decades ago).


Looks like you are having a hard time accepting it. But FCPS is letting her go due to poor performance.


They didn’t let her go. She received a promotion.

I have no problem with the transition - Mukai sounds great. I just hate liars.

Moved to a back office role, no one hears about or cares. Just glad TJ is turning the corner with qualified leadership.



Bonitatibus is qualified.



She has lost the confidence of the students, the faculty and the parents. She could no longer be effective in her role. She chose political alignment with the FCPS board over the mission of the school.


#fakenews She was a great principal who did great things for TJ and the county.


She facilitated a push to change admission standards that discriminated against asians.
Asians constituted the overwhelming majority of her students and families.
The asians at at TJ either hate her or hate their own race.


Fake news from RWNJ trolls.

No discrimination.

Many Asian people, including TJ students and alum, support the change.


It's so laughable really. I mean the school is majority Asian. Asian enrollment is at a historic high and the largest beneficiaries of the change were again Asians.


Asians are the only racial group[ thaty saw a decline in admissions.


You mean, Asian students from affluent families.

The Asian students from low-income families saw the biggest increase in representation.


When you data scrape subsets of data to find a subset that supports your argument, you have a weak argument.
We measure racial discrimination along racial lines and you are using a subset of a racial group that has seen an increase.
The racial group that saw the largest increase were white students.
The only group that saw a decrease were asian students.
This was by design.


Since we are talking about the analysis in the court case — the justices called out the low-income students as highest beneficiaries — the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students also saw huge increases in representation.

If we also look at actual enrollment and yield, we see that white students didn’t have the largest increase, even though they make up the plurality. They just aren’t as interested in TJ - lower application and acceptance rates.


Circuit court judges are not called justices.
They were looking for reasons to avoid acknowledging the racial discrimination.

When you analyze racial discrimination, you look at the racial group, you don't pore over the data until you find some subset of that discriminated group that did better than average.

If we are talking about racial discrimination in admissions, we look at admissions data, not matriculation data.


Again, the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students saw huge increases in representation.

Before the change, the admission rate for black students was 25% of the admission rate for Asian students. Then, went up to 75% after the change. Still less than the 80% guideline.

The disparate impact for black students has lessened significantly but still remains after the change.

So by your explanation this admissions change is nothing but racial percentage manipulation.


No, the admissions change was about opening up TJ to all middle schools.


It's always been open to all middle schools.


Not when the process strongly favored kids who gamed the system.


Liar. It was always open to kids at all middle schools.


Liar. Rich kids had a MUCH better chance of getting in.
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Anonymous wrote:I am hopeful that the new principal can keep the low stress environment without abandoning rigor.

For a change, the new principal has STEM background. Merit is back, beginning with the new principal.


Bonitatibus has a computer science background.

Maybe for a change you can try to post something truthful?



She has a what?

It says she graduated from indiana university of pennsylvania in communications education.

Nothing about computer science, english or math. I'm not saying you need a degree to teach those subjects at the high school level but just saying you have a background in computer science doesn't make it so.

I think she is perfectly well qualified to be a principal of a base school but TJ needs a principal that understands gifted education and why it is not a waste of taxpayer money like so many on DCUM seem to think.



If you can say that he “has a STEM background”, then you can say that about her as well.

Both studied STEM in college; both went directly into teaching; both taught math in the past.

He did more STEM in college but that doesn’t mean she did zero.


Does a college student who takes a required distributional course in "physics for poets" count as studying STEM in college by your definition?


She did enough to be qualified to teach math and has mentioned her background in computer science in college.

Is she the STEMiest person out there? No. But she does have a “STEM background” if we are considering his background to be a “STEM background” (AKA studied and taught STEM topics decades ago).


Looks like you are having a hard time accepting it. But FCPS is letting her go due to poor performance.


They didn’t let her go. She received a promotion.

I have no problem with the transition - Mukai sounds great. I just hate liars.

Moved to a back office role, no one hears about or cares. Just glad TJ is turning the corner with qualified leadership.



Bonitatibus is qualified.



She has lost the confidence of the students, the faculty and the parents. She could no longer be effective in her role. She chose political alignment with the FCPS board over the mission of the school.


#fakenews She was a great principal who did great things for TJ and the county.


She facilitated a push to change admission standards that discriminated against asians.
Asians constituted the overwhelming majority of her students and families.
The asians at at TJ either hate her or hate their own race.


Fake news from RWNJ trolls.

No discrimination.

Many Asian people, including TJ students and alum, support the change.


It's so laughable really. I mean the school is majority Asian. Asian enrollment is at a historic high and the largest beneficiaries of the change were again Asians.


Asians are the only racial group[ thaty saw a decline in admissions.


You mean, Asian students from affluent families.

The Asian students from low-income families saw the biggest increase in representation.


When you data scrape subsets of data to find a subset that supports your argument, you have a weak argument.
We measure racial discrimination along racial lines and you are using a subset of a racial group that has seen an increase.
The racial group that saw the largest increase were white students.
The only group that saw a decrease were asian students.
This was by design.


Since we are talking about the analysis in the court case — the justices called out the low-income students as highest beneficiaries — the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students also saw huge increases in representation.

If we also look at actual enrollment and yield, we see that white students didn’t have the largest increase, even though they make up the plurality. They just aren’t as interested in TJ - lower application and acceptance rates.


Circuit court judges are not called justices.
They were looking for reasons to avoid acknowledging the racial discrimination.

When you analyze racial discrimination, you look at the racial group, you don't pore over the data until you find some subset of that discriminated group that did better than average.

If we are talking about racial discrimination in admissions, we look at admissions data, not matriculation data.


Again, the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students saw huge increases in representation.

Before the change, the admission rate for black students was 25% of the admission rate for Asian students. Then, went up to 75% after the change. Still less than the 80% guideline.

The disparate impact for black students has lessened significantly but still remains after the change.


White admits went from 86 in the last year of the old system to 140 last year. An increase of 54
Hispanic admits went from 16 the last uear of the old system to 41. An increase of 25

If we are talking about discrimination in the admissions process, we don't care how many kids accept and attend, we are [/b]ONLY[/b] concerns about admission statistics, not yield.

And you still don't understand disparate impact.


LOL. Speaking of “data scraping”…

White families DGAF about TJ. As demonstrated by application and yield numbers.

You are deflecting from the relevant math on disparate impact. The admissions change lessened the disparate impact of black students. (from 25% of the Asian rate to 75%, still below 80% guideline).

The fact is…there is better representation from kids across the county at TJ today. All MSs, more kids from economically-disadvantaged families, more black and Hispanic kids, more girls, etc.


Disparity /= disparate impact.

Of course white families want TJ. They don't want the work and competition that comes with it.

If you think the TJ mission is to collect a racially and economically representative sample of students from across Fairfax, then the new system does that better.
If you think the TJ mission is to collect the best and brightest students, then the new system is pretty bad.



The best and brightest across the county, not just a handful of affluent MSs.

Disparate impact is measured by the 80% rule.


The best and brightest are not evenly distributed across all middle schools

You don't understand disparate impact and its role in discrimination law. The 80% rule is meant to ferret out unintentional or non-obvious discrimination. It does not apply the same when you are talking about adverse impacts of intentional discrimination. It is absolutely incorrect to say that you can discriminate as long as the group being discriminated against is at least 80% proportionally selected.


There is no discrimination against Asian students.

The 80% rule works here, demonstrating unintentional discrimination against black students.

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Anonymous wrote:I am hopeful that the new principal can keep the low stress environment without abandoning rigor.

For a change, the new principal has STEM background. Merit is back, beginning with the new principal.


Bonitatibus has a computer science background.

Maybe for a change you can try to post something truthful?



She has a what?

It says she graduated from indiana university of pennsylvania in communications education.

Nothing about computer science, english or math. I'm not saying you need a degree to teach those subjects at the high school level but just saying you have a background in computer science doesn't make it so.

I think she is perfectly well qualified to be a principal of a base school but TJ needs a principal that understands gifted education and why it is not a waste of taxpayer money like so many on DCUM seem to think.



If you can say that he “has a STEM background”, then you can say that about her as well.

Both studied STEM in college; both went directly into teaching; both taught math in the past.

He did more STEM in college but that doesn’t mean she did zero.


Does a college student who takes a required distributional course in "physics for poets" count as studying STEM in college by your definition?


She did enough to be qualified to teach math and has mentioned her background in computer science in college.

Is she the STEMiest person out there? No. But she does have a “STEM background” if we are considering his background to be a “STEM background” (AKA studied and taught STEM topics decades ago).


Looks like you are having a hard time accepting it. But FCPS is letting her go due to poor performance.


They didn’t let her go. She received a promotion.

I have no problem with the transition - Mukai sounds great. I just hate liars.

Moved to a back office role, no one hears about or cares. Just glad TJ is turning the corner with qualified leadership.



Bonitatibus is qualified.



She has lost the confidence of the students, the faculty and the parents. She could no longer be effective in her role. She chose political alignment with the FCPS board over the mission of the school.


#fakenews She was a great principal who did great things for TJ and the county.


She facilitated a push to change admission standards that discriminated against asians.
Asians constituted the overwhelming majority of her students and families.
The asians at at TJ either hate her or hate their own race.


Fake news from RWNJ trolls.

No discrimination.

Many Asian people, including TJ students and alum, support the change.


It's so laughable really. I mean the school is majority Asian. Asian enrollment is at a historic high and the largest beneficiaries of the change were again Asians.


Asians are the only racial group[ thaty saw a decline in admissions.


You mean, Asian students from affluent families.

The Asian students from low-income families saw the biggest increase in representation.


When you data scrape subsets of data to find a subset that supports your argument, you have a weak argument.
We measure racial discrimination along racial lines and you are using a subset of a racial group that has seen an increase.
The racial group that saw the largest increase were white students.
The only group that saw a decrease were asian students.
This was by design.


Since we are talking about the analysis in the court case — the justices called out the low-income students as highest beneficiaries — the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students also saw huge increases in representation.

If we also look at actual enrollment and yield, we see that white students didn’t have the largest increase, even though they make up the plurality. They just aren’t as interested in TJ - lower application and acceptance rates.


Circuit court judges are not called justices.
They were looking for reasons to avoid acknowledging the racial discrimination.

When you analyze racial discrimination, you look at the racial group, you don't pore over the data until you find some subset of that discriminated group that did better than average.

If we are talking about racial discrimination in admissions, we look at admissions data, not matriculation data.


Again, the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students saw huge increases in representation.

Before the change, the admission rate for black students was 25% of the admission rate for Asian students. Then, went up to 75% after the change. Still less than the 80% guideline.

The disparate impact for black students has lessened significantly but still remains after the change.

So by your explanation this admissions change is nothing but racial percentage manipulation.


No, the admissions change was about opening up TJ to all middle schools.


It's always been open to all middle schools.


Not when the process strongly favored kids who gamed the system.


Liar. It was always open to kids at all middle schools.


Liar. Rich kids had a MUCH better chance of getting in.


Income is correlated with IQ. IQ is partially genetic/partially environmental. It makes sense that the “wealthy feeder schools” would have higher IQ students. The School Board changed AAP admissions standards based on the elementary school. Higher SES schools require higher NNAT/CoGAT scores and lower SES schools have lower standards for admissions. The same is true with TJ with “experience factor” bonus points.
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Anonymous wrote:I am hopeful that the new principal can keep the low stress environment without abandoning rigor.

For a change, the new principal has STEM background. Merit is back, beginning with the new principal.


Bonitatibus has a computer science background.

Maybe for a change you can try to post something truthful?



She has a what?

It says she graduated from indiana university of pennsylvania in communications education.

Nothing about computer science, english or math. I'm not saying you need a degree to teach those subjects at the high school level but just saying you have a background in computer science doesn't make it so.

I think she is perfectly well qualified to be a principal of a base school but TJ needs a principal that understands gifted education and why it is not a waste of taxpayer money like so many on DCUM seem to think.



If you can say that he “has a STEM background”, then you can say that about her as well.

Both studied STEM in college; both went directly into teaching; both taught math in the past.

He did more STEM in college but that doesn’t mean she did zero.


Does a college student who takes a required distributional course in "physics for poets" count as studying STEM in college by your definition?


She did enough to be qualified to teach math and has mentioned her background in computer science in college.

Is she the STEMiest person out there? No. But she does have a “STEM background” if we are considering his background to be a “STEM background” (AKA studied and taught STEM topics decades ago).


Looks like you are having a hard time accepting it. But FCPS is letting her go due to poor performance.


They didn’t let her go. She received a promotion.

I have no problem with the transition - Mukai sounds great. I just hate liars.

Moved to a back office role, no one hears about or cares. Just glad TJ is turning the corner with qualified leadership.



Bonitatibus is qualified.



She has lost the confidence of the students, the faculty and the parents. She could no longer be effective in her role. She chose political alignment with the FCPS board over the mission of the school.


#fakenews She was a great principal who did great things for TJ and the county.


She facilitated a push to change admission standards that discriminated against asians.
Asians constituted the overwhelming majority of her students and families.
The asians at at TJ either hate her or hate their own race.


Fake news from RWNJ trolls.

No discrimination.

Many Asian people, including TJ students and alum, support the change.


It's so laughable really. I mean the school is majority Asian. Asian enrollment is at a historic high and the largest beneficiaries of the change were again Asians.


Asians are the only racial group[ thaty saw a decline in admissions.


You mean, Asian students from affluent families.

The Asian students from low-income families saw the biggest increase in representation.


When you data scrape subsets of data to find a subset that supports your argument, you have a weak argument.
We measure racial discrimination along racial lines and you are using a subset of a racial group that has seen an increase.
The racial group that saw the largest increase were white students.
The only group that saw a decrease were asian students.
This was by design.


Since we are talking about the analysis in the court case — the justices called out the low-income students as highest beneficiaries — the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students also saw huge increases in representation.

If we also look at actual enrollment and yield, we see that white students didn’t have the largest increase, even though they make up the plurality. They just aren’t as interested in TJ - lower application and acceptance rates.


Circuit court judges are not called justices.
They were looking for reasons to avoid acknowledging the racial discrimination.

When you analyze racial discrimination, you look at the racial group, you don't pore over the data until you find some subset of that discriminated group that did better than average.

If we are talking about racial discrimination in admissions, we look at admissions data, not matriculation data.


Again, the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students saw huge increases in representation.

Before the change, the admission rate for black students was 25% of the admission rate for Asian students. Then, went up to 75% after the change. Still less than the 80% guideline.

The disparate impact for black students has lessened significantly but still remains after the change.

So by your explanation this admissions change is nothing but racial percentage manipulation.


No, the admissions change was about opening up TJ to all middle schools.


It's always been open to all middle schools.


Not when the process strongly favored kids who gamed the system.


Liar. It was always open to kids at all middle schools.


Liar. Rich kids had a MUCH better chance of getting in.


Income is correlated with IQ. IQ is partially genetic/partially environmental. It makes sense that the “wealthy feeder schools” would have higher IQ students. The School Board changed AAP admissions standards based on the elementary school. Higher SES schools require higher NNAT/CoGAT scores and lower SES schools have lower standards for admissions. The same is true with TJ with “experience factor” bonus points.


This reeks of eugenics.
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Anonymous wrote:I am hopeful that the new principal can keep the low stress environment without abandoning rigor.

For a change, the new principal has STEM background. Merit is back, beginning with the new principal.


Bonitatibus has a computer science background.

Maybe for a change you can try to post something truthful?



She has a what?

It says she graduated from indiana university of pennsylvania in communications education.

Nothing about computer science, english or math. I'm not saying you need a degree to teach those subjects at the high school level but just saying you have a background in computer science doesn't make it so.

I think she is perfectly well qualified to be a principal of a base school but TJ needs a principal that understands gifted education and why it is not a waste of taxpayer money like so many on DCUM seem to think.



If you can say that he “has a STEM background”, then you can say that about her as well.

Both studied STEM in college; both went directly into teaching; both taught math in the past.

He did more STEM in college but that doesn’t mean she did zero.


Does a college student who takes a required distributional course in "physics for poets" count as studying STEM in college by your definition?


She did enough to be qualified to teach math and has mentioned her background in computer science in college.

Is she the STEMiest person out there? No. But she does have a “STEM background” if we are considering his background to be a “STEM background” (AKA studied and taught STEM topics decades ago).


Looks like you are having a hard time accepting it. But FCPS is letting her go due to poor performance.


They didn’t let her go. She received a promotion.

I have no problem with the transition - Mukai sounds great. I just hate liars.

Moved to a back office role, no one hears about or cares. Just glad TJ is turning the corner with qualified leadership.



Bonitatibus is qualified.



She has lost the confidence of the students, the faculty and the parents. She could no longer be effective in her role. She chose political alignment with the FCPS board over the mission of the school.


#fakenews She was a great principal who did great things for TJ and the county.


She facilitated a push to change admission standards that discriminated against asians.
Asians constituted the overwhelming majority of her students and families.
The asians at at TJ either hate her or hate their own race.


Fake news from RWNJ trolls.

No discrimination.

Many Asian people, including TJ students and alum, support the change.


It's so laughable really. I mean the school is majority Asian. Asian enrollment is at a historic high and the largest beneficiaries of the change were again Asians.


Asians are the only racial group[ thaty saw a decline in admissions.


You mean, Asian students from affluent families.

The Asian students from low-income families saw the biggest increase in representation.


When you data scrape subsets of data to find a subset that supports your argument, you have a weak argument.
We measure racial discrimination along racial lines and you are using a subset of a racial group that has seen an increase.
The racial group that saw the largest increase were white students.
The only group that saw a decrease were asian students.
This was by design.


Since we are talking about the analysis in the court case — the justices called out the low-income students as highest beneficiaries — the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students also saw huge increases in representation.

If we also look at actual enrollment and yield, we see that white students didn’t have the largest increase, even though they make up the plurality. They just aren’t as interested in TJ - lower application and acceptance rates.


Circuit court judges are not called justices.
They were looking for reasons to avoid acknowledging the racial discrimination.

When you analyze racial discrimination, you look at the racial group, you don't pore over the data until you find some subset of that discriminated group that did better than average.

If we are talking about racial discrimination in admissions, we look at admissions data, not matriculation data.


Again, the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students saw huge increases in representation.

Before the change, the admission rate for black students was 25% of the admission rate for Asian students. Then, went up to 75% after the change. Still less than the 80% guideline.

The disparate impact for black students has lessened significantly but still remains after the change.

So by your explanation this admissions change is nothing but racial percentage manipulation.


No, the admissions change was about opening up TJ to all middle schools.


It's always been open to all middle schools.


Not when the process strongly favored kids who gamed the system.


Liar. It was always open to kids at all middle schools.


Liar. Rich kids had a MUCH better chance of getting in.


Income is correlated with IQ. IQ is partially genetic/partially environmental. It makes sense that the “wealthy feeder schools” would have higher IQ students. The School Board changed AAP admissions standards based on the elementary school. Higher SES schools require higher NNAT/CoGAT scores and lower SES schools have lower standards for admissions. The same is true with TJ with “experience factor” bonus points.


This reeks of eugenics.


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Anonymous wrote:I am hopeful that the new principal can keep the low stress environment without abandoning rigor.

For a change, the new principal has STEM background. Merit is back, beginning with the new principal.


Bonitatibus has a computer science background.

Maybe for a change you can try to post something truthful?



She has a what?

It says she graduated from indiana university of pennsylvania in communications education.

Nothing about computer science, english or math. I'm not saying you need a degree to teach those subjects at the high school level but just saying you have a background in computer science doesn't make it so.

I think she is perfectly well qualified to be a principal of a base school but TJ needs a principal that understands gifted education and why it is not a waste of taxpayer money like so many on DCUM seem to think.



If you can say that he “has a STEM background”, then you can say that about her as well.

Both studied STEM in college; both went directly into teaching; both taught math in the past.

He did more STEM in college but that doesn’t mean she did zero.


Does a college student who takes a required distributional course in "physics for poets" count as studying STEM in college by your definition?


She did enough to be qualified to teach math and has mentioned her background in computer science in college.

Is she the STEMiest person out there? No. But she does have a “STEM background” if we are considering his background to be a “STEM background” (AKA studied and taught STEM topics decades ago).


Looks like you are having a hard time accepting it. But FCPS is letting her go due to poor performance.


They didn’t let her go. She received a promotion.

I have no problem with the transition - Mukai sounds great. I just hate liars.

Moved to a back office role, no one hears about or cares. Just glad TJ is turning the corner with qualified leadership.



Bonitatibus is qualified.



She has lost the confidence of the students, the faculty and the parents. She could no longer be effective in her role. She chose political alignment with the FCPS board over the mission of the school.


#fakenews She was a great principal who did great things for TJ and the county.


She facilitated a push to change admission standards that discriminated against asians.
Asians constituted the overwhelming majority of her students and families.
The asians at at TJ either hate her or hate their own race.


Fake news from RWNJ trolls.

No discrimination.

Many Asian people, including TJ students and alum, support the change.


It's so laughable really. I mean the school is majority Asian. Asian enrollment is at a historic high and the largest beneficiaries of the change were again Asians.


Asians are the only racial group[ thaty saw a decline in admissions.


You mean, Asian students from affluent families.

The Asian students from low-income families saw the biggest increase in representation.


When you data scrape subsets of data to find a subset that supports your argument, you have a weak argument.
We measure racial discrimination along racial lines and you are using a subset of a racial group that has seen an increase.
The racial group that saw the largest increase were white students.
The only group that saw a decrease were asian students.
This was by design.


Since we are talking about the analysis in the court case — the justices called out the low-income students as highest beneficiaries — the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students also saw huge increases in representation.

If we also look at actual enrollment and yield, we see that white students didn’t have the largest increase, even though they make up the plurality. They just aren’t as interested in TJ - lower application and acceptance rates.


Circuit court judges are not called justices.
They were looking for reasons to avoid acknowledging the racial discrimination.

When you analyze racial discrimination, you look at the racial group, you don't pore over the data until you find some subset of that discriminated group that did better than average.

If we are talking about racial discrimination in admissions, we look at admissions data, not matriculation data.


Again, the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students saw huge increases in representation.

Before the change, the admission rate for black students was 25% of the admission rate for Asian students. Then, went up to 75% after the change. Still less than the 80% guideline.

The disparate impact for black students has lessened significantly but still remains after the change.

So by your explanation this admissions change is nothing but racial percentage manipulation.


No, the admissions change was about opening up TJ to all middle schools.


It's always been open to all middle schools.


in spirit only since kids at the less affluent schools couldn't afford the prep where they get to practice using the actual test questions.
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Anonymous wrote:I am hopeful that the new principal can keep the low stress environment without abandoning rigor.

For a change, the new principal has STEM background. Merit is back, beginning with the new principal.


Bonitatibus has a computer science background.

Maybe for a change you can try to post something truthful?



She has a what?

It says she graduated from indiana university of pennsylvania in communications education.

Nothing about computer science, english or math. I'm not saying you need a degree to teach those subjects at the high school level but just saying you have a background in computer science doesn't make it so.

I think she is perfectly well qualified to be a principal of a base school but TJ needs a principal that understands gifted education and why it is not a waste of taxpayer money like so many on DCUM seem to think.



If you can say that he “has a STEM background”, then you can say that about her as well.

Both studied STEM in college; both went directly into teaching; both taught math in the past.

He did more STEM in college but that doesn’t mean she did zero.


Does a college student who takes a required distributional course in "physics for poets" count as studying STEM in college by your definition?


She did enough to be qualified to teach math and has mentioned her background in computer science in college.

Is she the STEMiest person out there? No. But she does have a “STEM background” if we are considering his background to be a “STEM background” (AKA studied and taught STEM topics decades ago).


Looks like you are having a hard time accepting it. But FCPS is letting her go due to poor performance.


They didn’t let her go. She received a promotion.

I have no problem with the transition - Mukai sounds great. I just hate liars.

Moved to a back office role, no one hears about or cares. Just glad TJ is turning the corner with qualified leadership.



Bonitatibus is qualified.



She has lost the confidence of the students, the faculty and the parents. She could no longer be effective in her role. She chose political alignment with the FCPS board over the mission of the school.


#fakenews She was a great principal who did great things for TJ and the county.


She facilitated a push to change admission standards that discriminated against asians.
Asians constituted the overwhelming majority of her students and families.
The asians at at TJ either hate her or hate their own race.


Fake news from RWNJ trolls.

No discrimination.

Many Asian people, including TJ students and alum, support the change.


It's so laughable really. I mean the school is majority Asian. Asian enrollment is at a historic high and the largest beneficiaries of the change were again Asians.


Asians are the only racial group[ thaty saw a decline in admissions.


You mean, Asian students from affluent families.

The Asian students from low-income families saw the biggest increase in representation.


When you data scrape subsets of data to find a subset that supports your argument, you have a weak argument.
We measure racial discrimination along racial lines and you are using a subset of a racial group that has seen an increase.
The racial group that saw the largest increase were white students.
The only group that saw a decrease were asian students.
This was by design.


Since we are talking about the analysis in the court case — the justices called out the low-income students as highest beneficiaries — the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students also saw huge increases in representation.

If we also look at actual enrollment and yield, we see that white students didn’t have the largest increase, even though they make up the plurality. They just aren’t as interested in TJ - lower application and acceptance rates.


Circuit court judges are not called justices.
They were looking for reasons to avoid acknowledging the racial discrimination.

When you analyze racial discrimination, you look at the racial group, you don't pore over the data until you find some subset of that discriminated group that did better than average.

If we are talking about racial discrimination in admissions, we look at admissions data, not matriculation data.


Again, the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students saw huge increases in representation.

Before the change, the admission rate for black students was 25% of the admission rate for Asian students. Then, went up to 75% after the change. Still less than the 80% guideline.

The disparate impact for black students has lessened significantly but still remains after the change.

So by your explanation this admissions change is nothing but racial percentage manipulation.


No, the admissions change was about opening up TJ to all middle schools.


It's always been open to all middle schools.


Not when the process strongly favored kids who gamed the system.


"gaming the system" is what lazy people call studying.
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Anonymous wrote:I am hopeful that the new principal can keep the low stress environment without abandoning rigor.

For a change, the new principal has STEM background. Merit is back, beginning with the new principal.


Bonitatibus has a computer science background.

Maybe for a change you can try to post something truthful?



She has a what?

It says she graduated from indiana university of pennsylvania in communications education.

Nothing about computer science, english or math. I'm not saying you need a degree to teach those subjects at the high school level but just saying you have a background in computer science doesn't make it so.

I think she is perfectly well qualified to be a principal of a base school but TJ needs a principal that understands gifted education and why it is not a waste of taxpayer money like so many on DCUM seem to think.



If you can say that he “has a STEM background”, then you can say that about her as well.

Both studied STEM in college; both went directly into teaching; both taught math in the past.

He did more STEM in college but that doesn’t mean she did zero.


Does a college student who takes a required distributional course in "physics for poets" count as studying STEM in college by your definition?


She did enough to be qualified to teach math and has mentioned her background in computer science in college.

Is she the STEMiest person out there? No. But she does have a “STEM background” if we are considering his background to be a “STEM background” (AKA studied and taught STEM topics decades ago).


Looks like you are having a hard time accepting it. But FCPS is letting her go due to poor performance.


They didn’t let her go. She received a promotion.

I have no problem with the transition - Mukai sounds great. I just hate liars.

Moved to a back office role, no one hears about or cares. Just glad TJ is turning the corner with qualified leadership.



Bonitatibus is qualified.



She has lost the confidence of the students, the faculty and the parents. She could no longer be effective in her role. She chose political alignment with the FCPS board over the mission of the school.


#fakenews She was a great principal who did great things for TJ and the county.


She facilitated a push to change admission standards that discriminated against asians.
Asians constituted the overwhelming majority of her students and families.
The asians at at TJ either hate her or hate their own race.


Fake news from RWNJ trolls.

No discrimination.

Many Asian people, including TJ students and alum, support the change.


It's so laughable really. I mean the school is majority Asian. Asian enrollment is at a historic high and the largest beneficiaries of the change were again Asians.


Asians are the only racial group[ thaty saw a decline in admissions.


You mean, Asian students from affluent families.

The Asian students from low-income families saw the biggest increase in representation.


When you data scrape subsets of data to find a subset that supports your argument, you have a weak argument.
We measure racial discrimination along racial lines and you are using a subset of a racial group that has seen an increase.
The racial group that saw the largest increase were white students.
The only group that saw a decrease were asian students.
This was by design.


Since we are talking about the analysis in the court case — the justices called out the low-income students as highest beneficiaries — the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students also saw huge increases in representation.

If we also look at actual enrollment and yield, we see that white students didn’t have the largest increase, even though they make up the plurality. They just aren’t as interested in TJ - lower application and acceptance rates.


Circuit court judges are not called justices.
They were looking for reasons to avoid acknowledging the racial discrimination.

When you analyze racial discrimination, you look at the racial group, you don't pore over the data until you find some subset of that discriminated group that did better than average.

If we are talking about racial discrimination in admissions, we look at admissions data, not matriculation data.


Again, the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students saw huge increases in representation.

Before the change, the admission rate for black students was 25% of the admission rate for Asian students. Then, went up to 75% after the change. Still less than the 80% guideline.

The disparate impact for black students has lessened significantly but still remains after the change.

So by your explanation this admissions change is nothing but racial percentage manipulation.


No, the admissions change was about opening up TJ to all middle schools.


It's always been open to all middle schools.


Not when the process strongly favored kids who gamed the system.


Liar. It was always open to kids at all middle schools.


Liar. Rich kids had a MUCH better chance of getting in.


Academic ability is not evenly distributed across the econommic spectrum.
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Anonymous wrote:I am hopeful that the new principal can keep the low stress environment without abandoning rigor.

For a change, the new principal has STEM background. Merit is back, beginning with the new principal.


Bonitatibus has a computer science background.

Maybe for a change you can try to post something truthful?



She has a what?

It says she graduated from indiana university of pennsylvania in communications education.

Nothing about computer science, english or math. I'm not saying you need a degree to teach those subjects at the high school level but just saying you have a background in computer science doesn't make it so.

I think she is perfectly well qualified to be a principal of a base school but TJ needs a principal that understands gifted education and why it is not a waste of taxpayer money like so many on DCUM seem to think.



If you can say that he “has a STEM background”, then you can say that about her as well.

Both studied STEM in college; both went directly into teaching; both taught math in the past.

He did more STEM in college but that doesn’t mean she did zero.


Does a college student who takes a required distributional course in "physics for poets" count as studying STEM in college by your definition?


She did enough to be qualified to teach math and has mentioned her background in computer science in college.

Is she the STEMiest person out there? No. But she does have a “STEM background” if we are considering his background to be a “STEM background” (AKA studied and taught STEM topics decades ago).


Looks like you are having a hard time accepting it. But FCPS is letting her go due to poor performance.


They didn’t let her go. She received a promotion.

I have no problem with the transition - Mukai sounds great. I just hate liars.

Moved to a back office role, no one hears about or cares. Just glad TJ is turning the corner with qualified leadership.



Bonitatibus is qualified.



She has lost the confidence of the students, the faculty and the parents. She could no longer be effective in her role. She chose political alignment with the FCPS board over the mission of the school.


#fakenews She was a great principal who did great things for TJ and the county.


She facilitated a push to change admission standards that discriminated against asians.
Asians constituted the overwhelming majority of her students and families.
The asians at at TJ either hate her or hate their own race.


Fake news from RWNJ trolls.

No discrimination.

Many Asian people, including TJ students and alum, support the change.


It's so laughable really. I mean the school is majority Asian. Asian enrollment is at a historic high and the largest beneficiaries of the change were again Asians.


Asians are the only racial group[ thaty saw a decline in admissions.


You mean, Asian students from affluent families.

The Asian students from low-income families saw the biggest increase in representation.


When you data scrape subsets of data to find a subset that supports your argument, you have a weak argument.
We measure racial discrimination along racial lines and you are using a subset of a racial group that has seen an increase.
The racial group that saw the largest increase were white students.
The only group that saw a decrease were asian students.
This was by design.


Since we are talking about the analysis in the court case — the justices called out the low-income students as highest beneficiaries — the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students also saw huge increases in representation.

If we also look at actual enrollment and yield, we see that white students didn’t have the largest increase, even though they make up the plurality. They just aren’t as interested in TJ - lower application and acceptance rates.


Circuit court judges are not called justices.
They were looking for reasons to avoid acknowledging the racial discrimination.

When you analyze racial discrimination, you look at the racial group, you don't pore over the data until you find some subset of that discriminated group that did better than average.

If we are talking about racial discrimination in admissions, we look at admissions data, not matriculation data.


Again, the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students saw huge increases in representation.

Before the change, the admission rate for black students was 25% of the admission rate for Asian students. Then, went up to 75% after the change. Still less than the 80% guideline.

The disparate impact for black students has lessened significantly but still remains after the change.


White admits went from 86 in the last year of the old system to 140 last year. An increase of 54
Hispanic admits went from 16 the last uear of the old system to 41. An increase of 25

If we are talking about discrimination in the admissions process, we don't care how many kids accept and attend, we are [/b]ONLY[/b] concerns about admission statistics, not yield.

And you still don't understand disparate impact.


LOL. Speaking of “data scraping”…

White families DGAF about TJ. As demonstrated by application and yield numbers.

You are deflecting from the relevant math on disparate impact. The admissions change lessened the disparate impact of black students. (from 25% of the Asian rate to 75%, still below 80% guideline).

The fact is…there is better representation from kids across the county at TJ today. All MSs, more kids from economically-disadvantaged families, more black and Hispanic kids, more girls, etc.


Disparity /= disparate impact.

Of course white families want TJ. They don't want the work and competition that comes with it.

If you think the TJ mission is to collect a racially and economically representative sample of students from across Fairfax, then the new system does that better.
If you think the TJ mission is to collect the best and brightest students, then the new system is pretty bad.



The best and brightest across the county, not just a handful of affluent MSs.

Disparate impact is measured by the 80% rule.


The best and brightest are not evenly distributed across all middle schools

You don't understand disparate impact and its role in discrimination law. The 80% rule is meant to ferret out unintentional or non-obvious discrimination. It does not apply the same when you are talking about adverse impacts of intentional discrimination. It is absolutely incorrect to say that you can discriminate as long as the group being discriminated against is at least 80% proportionally selected.


There is no discrimination against Asian students.

The 80% rule works here, demonstrating unintentional discrimination against black students.



Academic ability is not evenly distributed across racial groups.
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