NYT: Men where have you gone, please come back.
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Anonymous
Nah we live in a world where women have decided to take on masculine traits and then can't figure why men aren't attracted to them |
Anonymous
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Women stay single, get divorced and publicly complain about their husbands more now.
But that doesn’t mean the husbands used to be any better or even that they haven’t improved, the women just couldn’t make those moves before. For the men, it hasn’t changed as much. |
Anonymous
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I read that article and it is complete nonsense. Any woman who isn't obese can pretty much get a date anytime she wants. It's that the standards are so high that almost no men can reach it. My dating life led to two revelations:
1) women find you more attractive when you have an MBA from one of the better business schools. 2) when I said, time out, instead of trying to morph into what women supposedly want, let me figure out and determine what I want and take it from there, I was found more desirable. |
Anonymous
Basically you're a "simp". My father is Chinese, and my mother is Vietnamese, and they have been married for over 50 years. My father never had to cook, clean, or do his own laundry because my mother did everything around the house. My mother taught me how to cook, clean, and do my own laundry so that I know how to do it, but that does not mean I have to do it. I know how to change car tires, oil change, and fix cars, but that does not mean I have to do them. My mother taught me that I should learn the necessary skills (i.e. sports, music, working out), and make a lot of money if I wanted to attract women. My mother also told me that when I get married, my wife should do the cooking, cleaning, and laundry because I am making a lot more $$$ than she does. If she doesn't like it, do not let the door hit her on the way out. A woman will put up with a lot of things with a guy if that guy is way out of her league. That was advices from my mother to me when I was 22 years old. I am now married with a wife and two kids, and I neither cook, clean, nor do laundry because my wife does that. Any guys that cook, clean, and do laundry are simply simp. |
Anonymous
by that you mean, "women are having sex with 100s of men"? Good for the goose, but not for the gander. #hypocrite |
Anonymous
I didn’t say behavior was currently changing drastically. I said people are slowly realizing it’s a bad idea and it’s part of the reason the dating scene is such a mess right now. People like me are outproducing and outperforming people like you so things will shift eventually, it really is just a matter of timing. If hearts and minds change, changes will be quick. If they don’t, we will get there eventually through trial and error and process of elimination. |
Anonymous
Hey Jackie Gleason, I cook, clean, and do laundry to help my wife and as an example of love and respect for her. I'm not a "simp" and pretty sure I could kick your A 10 ways from Friday. |
Anonymous
your mother like my parents are mired in old stereotypes and misogyny. FWIW, I'm the PP with a son who cooks, cleans, he's a great catch for any girl. He's had two gf already by 20. I'm Korean American. My parents said that no Korean man would probably want to marry me because I'm way too independent and head strong. And that was fine with me because I would not want to marry a man who's ego is so fragile that he could not handle a strong woman. So, win win. My DH is from Europe, and he did most of the cooking when we got together. It was awesome. And yes, we made about the same. My korean sister was super jealous of the fact that my DH cooked; her Korean DH did not. My mother once told me not to tell my sister that I was watching tv while my DH cooked because she would get jealous. LOL I do cook, now. My parents love my DH, sometimes I think more than me.  They think he's great that he changed diapers, cooked, and made good money.
Your marriage is transactional, and that is sad. My mother and sister has this kind of marriage, and they were miserable. They only put up with a man like this because of money. That's sad. |
Anonymous
? well, I'm 54 with two kids. So, sure, you will outperform me in having kids because I'm done. Thank god. I would not want more than two kids. I come from a family of 4 siblings. No way in h3ll would I have ever done that nor advocate for my DD to do that. People who had a lot of kids back in the day did so because they were too poor to get birth control, like my parents, or due to religion (another form of being somewhat uneducated). Educated women don't want to just be baby making machines. Perhaps if there was a paradigm shift in our culture where men were expected to be equal partners, women would be more willing to have more children at an earlier age. Alas, until that happens, the trend of not having kids or having a few later in life will continue. |
Anonymous
That’s great but recognize you are increasingly part of a dwindling subculture, like a more moderate version of the Shakers. There are plenty of people still having 3+ kids and most importantly, they and their kids think nothing like you. I agree it can be difficult for women to have a kid of children if they are only capable of attracting a low quality mate. But women who attract high quality mates don’t have problems to the your family did. |
Anonymous
Your mother was raised in a misogynistic culture, old world, and probably grew up post the war, which means she was poor or a refugee. She didn't have that many choices. My mother also grew up in a poor Asian country, decimated by war, and she too had some misogynistic notions. They can't help it. That's the way they grew up. I fought that culture tooth and nail. And I'm happy that my DD has more choices, and my DS will have his pick of women because not only is he good looking and very fit, but he earns good money, knows how to cook and keeps his place clean. He's a catch. My DH was like this, and he had no shortage of women. |
Anonymous
(There are multiple posters on this thread and I enjoy cooking and actually enjoy cleaning too. Laundry is not my thing though and I do other things instead.) |
Anonymous
Well, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree for a reason. In other words, a simp husband produces a simp kid, nothing new here. |
Anonymous
It's actually a lot easier to bang American women. Second or third date is pretty standard. Have you even been to any of these countries you old goat? |
Anonymous
| Cooking, cleaning, and laundry just isn't all that hard. The dudes caterwauling like their dicks will fall off if they have to put forth that level of effort are pretty weak. |