Saturday - Thousands expected to attend pro-Palestine march in DC for ceasefire in Israel-Hamas war

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Anonymous wrote:So, it's OK now to scale the white house gate and vandalize? The new normal? Just asking.

Evidently.......

Police in Washington, D.C. arrested just one person as tens of thousands of pro-Palestinian protesters demonstrated in the city on Saturday night.

Protesters could be seen vandalizing the White House fence and wrenching at the gate, and antisemitic graffiti was left on several buildings along the protesters' path through the city. The Metropolitan Police Department says it made sole arrest of an adult male during the hours-long march.

"During the event, several minor incidents of property damage and vandalism were reported to police. One adult male was arrested for Destruction of Property in the 700 block of 17th Street, Northwest. In addition, MPD is currently investigating acts of vandalism that damaged the McPherson Square Metro Station and several police vehicles," the MPD wrote in a press release provided to Fox News Digital.

The Secret Service says its agents around the White House and other executive branch buildings made no arrests during the protest.

The protesters could be seen defacing multiple statues in downtown Washington as well, wrapping Palestinian flags around a statue of Benjamin Franklin and another of General Marquis de Lafayette near the White House.

“Just” is really showing your bias here. Perpetrator was arrested, but that’s not enough for the pro-Israel crowd. Collective punishment for all!

Singular.
They were climbing the WH gate. They smeared paint and vandalized several buildings.
But, they were able to arrest ONE person. Bravo, I guess.

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Anonymous wrote:Did any of the protesters condemn Hamas? Serious question?

You need to face the music. People have been angry for a long time about how much money our govt wastes propping up a belligerent theocratic "democracy," and this might be the straw the breaks the camel's back.

Right, US interests are totally served by letting Israel be destroyed

The state of Israel has resulted in nearly 7 decades of apartheid and oppression. Maybe it’s time for the US to stop giving it money and shielding it from the consequences of its actions on the world stage.

Look, many other states have failed and their people are fine. The third Reich was wiped off the face of the map and the German people have never been better. The USSR was wiped off the map and Russians are still invading other countries. The confederacy was wiped off the map and idiot Americans are thriving. If Israel is wiped off the map and Jews have to coexist in a democracy where everyone has a vote, they will be fine. And maybe they won’t have to build bomb shelters in their homes.

You mean the Third Reich that tried to exterminate all Jews and almost succeeded, leading the UN to create a safe haven for Jews on their indigenous lands that they had been living on for millennia even despite attempts to expel them? That Third Reich?

Please tell us more about the current Israeli Jews having lived on that land for millennia …

By this definition, you are a settler here in America. Why don’t you offer up your land to a Native American?

There’s no known dispute related to the coastal property I own right now. I also paid for it. If someone asserted ownership in the past 100 years, a system exists to sort that out.

You, on the other hand, are trying to keep a straight face while arguing that people from the Ukraine, Poland, and Brooklyn who descended on indigenous people in that region as far back as 100 years ago or so, and as recent as last week, to terrorize them into abandoning their property, have the same land rights as me.

You did not pay the indigenous people for your land. So arbitrary time parameter you are going with is 100 years? The Native Americans have the same rights to their land as the Palestinians. Furthermore, Jews have been in Palestine since before Islam was invented unlike your ancestors in the US.

You know nothing about my property ownership, so that’s a pointless diversion. Nevertheless, if a member of one of the local native tribes in my region of the country knocked on my door and laid claim to the 9,000 square feet my property is comprised of, I’d at least hear them out.

Of course, you didn’t consider relative population density in the two scenarios you’ve tried to conflate, but you can’t get everything right.

Hey, look, just tell me why any Palestinian, whose ancestors have occupied the land in question on an uninterrupted basis for thousands of years, should not be outraged that immigrants from Russia, Poland, and Brooklyn descended on the land in the past 100 years and, for the most part, terrorized their recent ancestors to the point where they were left with two choices: leave now or die. The convergence of biblical Jews indigenous to that region and the modern Israelis living in that region is what? 10 - 15%? The other 85 - 90% have as much historical claim to that land as the rest of us, if we’re to belief their own holy texts.

You can’t win this war of words.

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Anonymous wrote:Did any of the protesters condemn Hamas? Serious question?

You need to face the music. People have been angry for a long time about how much money our govt wastes propping up a belligerent theocratic "democracy," and this might be the straw the breaks the camel's back.

Right, US interests are totally served by letting Israel be destroyed

The state of Israel has resulted in nearly 7 decades of apartheid and oppression. Maybe it’s time for the US to stop giving it money and shielding it from the consequences of its actions on the world stage.

Look, many other states have failed and their people are fine. The third Reich was wiped off the face of the map and the German people have never been better. The USSR was wiped off the map and Russians are still invading other countries. The confederacy was wiped off the map and idiot Americans are thriving. If Israel is wiped off the map and Jews have to coexist in a democracy where everyone has a vote, they will be fine. And maybe they won’t have to build bomb shelters in their homes.

You mean the Third Reich that tried to exterminate all Jews and almost succeeded, leading the UN to create a safe haven for Jews on their indigenous lands that they had been living on for millennia even despite attempts to expel them? That Third Reich?

Please tell us more about the current Israeli Jews having lived on that land for millennia …

By this definition, you are a settler here in America. Why don’t you offer up your land to a Native American?

There’s no known dispute related to the coastal property I own right now. I also paid for it. If someone asserted ownership in the past 100 years, a system exists to sort that out.

You, on the other hand, are trying to keep a straight face while arguing that people from the Ukraine, Poland, and Brooklyn who descended on indigenous people in that region as far back as 100 years ago or so, and as recent as last week, to terrorize them into abandoning their property, have the same land rights as me.

You did not pay the indigenous people for your land. So arbitrary time parameter you are going with is 100 years? The Native Americans have the same rights to their land as the Palestinians. Furthermore, Jews have been in Palestine since before Islam was invented unlike your ancestors in the US.

You know nothing about my property ownership, so that’s a pointless diversion. Nevertheless, if a member of one of the local native tribes in my region of the country knocked on my door and laid claim to the 9,000 square feet my property is comprised of, I’d at least hear them out.

Of course, you didn’t consider relative population density in the two scenarios you’ve tried to conflate, but you can’t get everything right.

Hey, look, just tell me why any Palestinian, whose ancestors have occupied the land in question on an uninterrupted basis for thousands of years, should not be outraged that immigrants from Russia, Poland, and Brooklyn descended on the land in the past 100 years and, for the most part, terrorized their recent ancestors to the point where they were left with two choices: leave now or die. The convergence of biblical Jews indigenous to that region and the modern Israelis living in that region is what? 10 - 15%? The other 85 - 90% have as much historical claim to that land as the rest of us, if we’re to belief their own holy texts.

You can’t win this war of words.

I know that you didn’t buy your property from the indigenous native Americans. And that makes you a liar and a hypocrite.

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Anonymous wrote:Did any of the protesters condemn Hamas? Serious question?

You need to face the music. People have been angry for a long time about how much money our govt wastes propping up a belligerent theocratic "democracy," and this might be the straw the breaks the camel's back.

Right, US interests are totally served by letting Israel be destroyed

The state of Israel has resulted in nearly 7 decades of apartheid and oppression. Maybe it’s time for the US to stop giving it money and shielding it from the consequences of its actions on the world stage.

Look, many other states have failed and their people are fine. The third Reich was wiped off the face of the map and the German people have never been better. The USSR was wiped off the map and Russians are still invading other countries. The confederacy was wiped off the map and idiot Americans are thriving. If Israel is wiped off the map and Jews have to coexist in a democracy where everyone has a vote, they will be fine. And maybe they won’t have to build bomb shelters in their homes.

You mean the Third Reich that tried to exterminate all Jews and almost succeeded, leading the UN to create a safe haven for Jews on their indigenous lands that they had been living on for millennia even despite attempts to expel them? That Third Reich?

Please tell us more about the current Israeli Jews having lived on that land for millennia …

By this definition, you are a settler here in America. Why don’t you offer up your land to a Native American?

There’s no known dispute related to the coastal property I own right now. I also paid for it. If someone asserted ownership in the past 100 years, a system exists to sort that out.

You, on the other hand, are trying to keep a straight face while arguing that people from the Ukraine, Poland, and Brooklyn who descended on indigenous people in that region as far back as 100 years ago or so, and as recent as last week, to terrorize them into abandoning their property, have the same land rights as me.

You did not pay the indigenous people for your land. So arbitrary time parameter you are going with is 100 years? The Native Americans have the same rights to their land as the Palestinians. Furthermore, Jews have been in Palestine since before Islam was invented unlike your ancestors in the US.

You know nothing about my property ownership, so that’s a pointless diversion. Nevertheless, if a member of one of the local native tribes in my region of the country knocked on my door and laid claim to the 9,000 square feet my property is comprised of, I’d at least hear them out.

Of course, you didn’t consider relative population density in the two scenarios you’ve tried to conflate, but you can’t get everything right.

Hey, look, just tell me why any Palestinian, whose ancestors have occupied the land in question on an uninterrupted basis for thousands of years, should not be outraged that immigrants from Russia, Poland, and Brooklyn descended on the land in the past 100 years and, for the most part, terrorized their recent ancestors to the point where they were left with two choices: leave now or die. The convergence of biblical Jews indigenous to that region and the modern Israelis living in that region is what? 10 - 15%? The other 85 - 90% have as much historical claim to that land as the rest of us, if we’re to belief their own holy texts.

You can’t win this war of words.

I know that you didn’t buy your property from the indigenous native Americans. And that makes you a liar and a hypocrite.

Did they acquire their property in the U.S. via the MLS, or through the Zionist method of “Leave or die” ultimatum? If the latter, hell yes, they are a hypocrite.

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Anonymous wrote:Did any of the protesters condemn Hamas? Serious question?

You need to face the music. People have been angry for a long time about how much money our govt wastes propping up a belligerent theocratic "democracy," and this might be the straw the breaks the camel's back.

Right, US interests are totally served by letting Israel be destroyed

The state of Israel has resulted in nearly 7 decades of apartheid and oppression. Maybe it’s time for the US to stop giving it money and shielding it from the consequences of its actions on the world stage.

Look, many other states have failed and their people are fine. The third Reich was wiped off the face of the map and the German people have never been better. The USSR was wiped off the map and Russians are still invading other countries. The confederacy was wiped off the map and idiot Americans are thriving. If Israel is wiped off the map and Jews have to coexist in a democracy where everyone has a vote, they will be fine. And maybe they won’t have to build bomb shelters in their homes.

You mean the Third Reich that tried to exterminate all Jews and almost succeeded, leading the UN to create a safe haven for Jews on their indigenous lands that they had been living on for millennia even despite attempts to expel them? That Third Reich?

Please tell us more about the current Israeli Jews having lived on that land for millennia …

By this definition, you are a settler here in America. Why don’t you offer up your land to a Native American?

There’s no known dispute related to the coastal property I own right now. I also paid for it. If someone asserted ownership in the past 100 years, a system exists to sort that out.

You, on the other hand, are trying to keep a straight face while arguing that people from the Ukraine, Poland, and Brooklyn who descended on indigenous people in that region as far back as 100 years ago or so, and as recent as last week, to terrorize them into abandoning their property, have the same land rights as me.

You did not pay the indigenous people for your land. So arbitrary time parameter you are going with is 100 years? The Native Americans have the same rights to their land as the Palestinians. Furthermore, Jews have been in Palestine since before Islam was invented unlike your ancestors in the US.

You know nothing about my property ownership, so that’s a pointless diversion. Nevertheless, if a member of one of the local native tribes in my region of the country knocked on my door and laid claim to the 9,000 square feet my property is comprised of, I’d at least hear them out.

Of course, you didn’t consider relative population density in the two scenarios you’ve tried to conflate, but you can’t get everything right.

Hey, look, just tell me why any Palestinian, whose ancestors have occupied the land in question on an uninterrupted basis for thousands of years, should not be outraged that immigrants from Russia, Poland, and Brooklyn descended on the land in the past 100 years and, for the most part, terrorized their recent ancestors to the point where they were left with two choices: leave now or die. The convergence of biblical Jews indigenous to that region and the modern Israelis living in that region is what? 10 - 15%? The other 85 - 90% have as much historical claim to that land as the rest of us, if we’re to belief their own holy texts.

You can’t win this war of words.

I know that you didn’t buy your property from the indigenous native Americans. And that makes you a liar and a hypocrite.

DP.

Agree.

No one is putting the genie back in the bottle. It’s preposterous.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did any of the protesters condemn Hamas? Serious question?

You need to face the music. People have been angry for a long time about how much money our govt wastes propping up a belligerent theocratic "democracy," and this might be the straw the breaks the camel's back.

Right, US interests are totally served by letting Israel be destroyed

The state of Israel has resulted in nearly 7 decades of apartheid and oppression. Maybe it’s time for the US to stop giving it money and shielding it from the consequences of its actions on the world stage.

Look, many other states have failed and their people are fine. The third Reich was wiped off the face of the map and the German people have never been better. The USSR was wiped off the map and Russians are still invading other countries. The confederacy was wiped off the map and idiot Americans are thriving. If Israel is wiped off the map and Jews have to coexist in a democracy where everyone has a vote, they will be fine. And maybe they won’t have to build bomb shelters in their homes.

You mean the Third Reich that tried to exterminate all Jews and almost succeeded, leading the UN to create a safe haven for Jews on their indigenous lands that they had been living on for millennia even despite attempts to expel them? That Third Reich?

Please tell us more about the current Israeli Jews having lived on that land for millennia …

By this definition, you are a settler here in America. Why don’t you offer up your land to a Native American?

There’s no known dispute related to the coastal property I own right now. I also paid for it. If someone asserted ownership in the past 100 years, a system exists to sort that out.

You, on the other hand, are trying to keep a straight face while arguing that people from the Ukraine, Poland, and Brooklyn who descended on indigenous people in that region as far back as 100 years ago or so, and as recent as last week, to terrorize them into abandoning their property, have the same land rights as me.

You did not pay the indigenous people for your land. So arbitrary time parameter you are going with is 100 years? The Native Americans have the same rights to their land as the Palestinians. Furthermore, Jews have been in Palestine since before Islam was invented unlike your ancestors in the US.

You know nothing about my property ownership, so that’s a pointless diversion. Nevertheless, if a member of one of the local native tribes in my region of the country knocked on my door and laid claim to the 9,000 square feet my property is comprised of, I’d at least hear them out.

Of course, you didn’t consider relative population density in the two scenarios you’ve tried to conflate, but you can’t get everything right.

Hey, look, just tell me why any Palestinian, whose ancestors have occupied the land in question on an uninterrupted basis for thousands of years, should not be outraged that immigrants from Russia, Poland, and Brooklyn descended on the land in the past 100 years and, for the most part, terrorized their recent ancestors to the point where they were left with two choices: leave now or die. The convergence of biblical Jews indigenous to that region and the modern Israelis living in that region is what? 10 - 15%? The other 85 - 90% have as much historical claim to that land as the rest of us, if we’re to belief their own holy texts.

You can’t win this war of words.

I know that you didn’t buy your property from the indigenous native Americans. And that makes you a liar and a hypocrite.

Did they acquire their property in the U.S. via the MLS, or through the Zionist method of “Leave or die” ultimatum? If the latter, hell yes, they are a hypocrite.

You know so there are a lot of people living in Israel who had nothing to do with the past right?? But you want them to just give their country back?

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Anonymous wrote:Here are some nice signs the protesters came up with

https://twitter.com/StopAntisemites/status/1721193930551623760

I would interpret this sign that the protester wants to keep American hands clean of killing people in the Middle East (ie not wanting tax dollars to fund overseas wars).

I guess given your post you read that it is antisemitic sentiment and that the sign means let’s clear the world of all Jews?

Is there consensus that the second message is true? Sources / facts?

The message is quite clear - purge the world of Israel; Jews are dirty.

Right. That is your interpretation. It’s not mine (and to respond to a PP I’m not particularly creative it’s just my immediate reaction).

I could definitely be wrong. But I cannot understand how you are so certain you are right.

Because I have eyes and a brain that can draw the inference between the Star of David and the Israeli flag over an open trash can and the horrific slogan above.

Stop gaslighting, for goodness sakes. Are you also going to tell me that the Israeli flag burning at at least one of these protests was a sign of respect for Israel? Or that the swastikas present at several rallies are just an ode to Hindu symbolism?

No, not everyone at these rallies is virulently anti-Jewish, but they don’t mind keeping company with those that are.

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Anonymous wrote:I have an idea. They should call for Hamas to release the hostages, which would instantly end the hostilities.

It would certainly be a step in the right direction, but it wouldn't end the way instantly. Hamas still needs to be rooted out

The protest was not organized to call for the release of the hostages. It was organized to draw attention to the suffering of the Palestinian people and call for a cease - fire.

There are many other ways the attention has been on the hostages (the posters, profiles on network TV, politicians statements, etc etc).

Because there wasn't enough attention drawn to this already everywhere around the world? How is this not a well coordinated campaign, you think it's organic grass roots thing to draw crowds into the streets when most people just go about their lives and are more interested in sports and vanity tik tok videos? Explain why the protests commenced before Israel even started bombing Gaza? Because it was needed to divert attention from the horror of the medieval attack on Oct 7 that would make Genghis Khan blush? Before people had a chance to master the outrage against Hamas.. protests were quickly organized and masses of people mobilized just like this?

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Anonymous wrote:You think it was a coincidence that this protest was on the Jewish sabbath? The one day when many Jewish people don’t drive and practice a day of rest?

Hey idiot, the Jewish sabbath is the Muslim sabbath as well.

The Muslim sabbath is on Friday, not Saturday. Maybe check your facts before insulting people.

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Anonymous wrote:Did any of the protesters condemn Hamas? Serious question?

You need to face the music. People have been angry for a long time about how much money our govt wastes propping up a belligerent theocratic "democracy," and this might be the straw the breaks the camel's back.

Right, US interests are totally served by letting Israel be destroyed

The state of Israel has resulted in nearly 7 decades of apartheid and oppression. Maybe it’s time for the US to stop giving it money and shielding it from the consequences of its actions on the world stage.

Look, many other states have failed and their people are fine. The third Reich was wiped off the face of the map and the German people have never been better. The USSR was wiped off the map and Russians are still invading other countries. The confederacy was wiped off the map and idiot Americans are thriving. If Israel is wiped off the map and Jews have to coexist in a democracy where everyone has a vote, they will be fine. And maybe they won’t have to build bomb shelters in their homes.

You mean the Third Reich that tried to exterminate all Jews and almost succeeded, leading the UN to create a safe haven for Jews on their indigenous lands that they had been living on for millennia even despite attempts to expel them? That Third Reich?

Please tell us more about the current Israeli Jews having lived on that land for millennia …

By this definition, you are a settler here in America. Why don’t you offer up your land to a Native American?

There’s no known dispute related to the coastal property I own right now. I also paid for it. If someone asserted ownership in the past 100 years, a system exists to sort that out.

You, on the other hand, are trying to keep a straight face while arguing that people from the Ukraine, Poland, and Brooklyn who descended on indigenous people in that region as far back as 100 years ago or so, and as recent as last week, to terrorize them into abandoning their property, have the same land rights as me.

You did not pay the indigenous people for your land. So arbitrary time parameter you are going with is 100 years? The Native Americans have the same rights to their land as the Palestinians. Furthermore, Jews have been in Palestine since before Islam was invented unlike your ancestors in the US.

You know nothing about my property ownership, so that’s a pointless diversion. Nevertheless, if a member of one of the local native tribes in my region of the country knocked on my door and laid claim to the 9,000 square feet my property is comprised of, I’d at least hear them out.

Of course, you didn’t consider relative population density in the two scenarios you’ve tried to conflate, but you can’t get everything right.

Hey, look, just tell me why any Palestinian, whose ancestors have occupied the land in question on an uninterrupted basis for thousands of years, should not be outraged that immigrants from Russia, Poland, and Brooklyn descended on the land in the past 100 years and, for the most part, terrorized their recent ancestors to the point where they were left with two choices: leave now or die. The convergence of biblical Jews indigenous to that region and the modern Israelis living in that region is what? 10 - 15%? The other 85 - 90% have as much historical claim to that land as the rest of us, if we’re to belief their own holy texts.

You can’t win this war of words.

I know that you didn’t buy your property from the indigenous native Americans. And that makes you a liar and a hypocrite.

DP.

Agree.

No one is putting the genie back in the bottle. It’s preposterous.

We don't have to. For "culture revolution" we just need to redefine things. Let me make a little prediction that soon term "antisemitism" will no longer refer to Jews only but also will include All the speakers of Semitic languages and would be used as an umbrella term for "Jew hate and Islamophobia". Tell me you don't see this coming. With all the honestly, there are both: hatred of Jews AND Islamophobia. And whatever is happening now is exacerbating both.

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Anonymous wrote:Did any of the protesters condemn Hamas? Serious question?

You need to face the music. People have been angry for a long time about how much money our govt wastes propping up a belligerent theocratic "democracy," and this might be the straw the breaks the camel's back.

Right, US interests are totally served by letting Israel be destroyed

The state of Israel has resulted in nearly 7 decades of apartheid and oppression. Maybe it’s time for the US to stop giving it money and shielding it from the consequences of its actions on the world stage.

Look, many other states have failed and their people are fine. The third Reich was wiped off the face of the map and the German people have never been better. The USSR was wiped off the map and Russians are still invading other countries. The confederacy was wiped off the map and idiot Americans are thriving. If Israel is wiped off the map and Jews have to coexist in a democracy where everyone has a vote, they will be fine. And maybe they won’t have to build bomb shelters in their homes.

You mean the Third Reich that tried to exterminate all Jews and almost succeeded, leading the UN to create a safe haven for Jews on their indigenous lands that they had been living on for millennia even despite attempts to expel them? That Third Reich?

Please tell us more about the current Israeli Jews having lived on that land for millennia …

By this definition, you are a settler here in America. Why don’t you offer up your land to a Native American?

There’s no known dispute related to the coastal property I own right now. I also paid for it. If someone asserted ownership in the past 100 years, a system exists to sort that out.

You, on the other hand, are trying to keep a straight face while arguing that people from the Ukraine, Poland, and Brooklyn who descended on indigenous people in that region as far back as 100 years ago or so, and as recent as last week, to terrorize them into abandoning their property, have the same land rights as me.

You did not pay the indigenous people for your land. So arbitrary time parameter you are going with is 100 years? The Native Americans have the same rights to their land as the Palestinians. Furthermore, Jews have been in Palestine since before Islam was invented unlike your ancestors in the US.

You know nothing about my property ownership, so that’s a pointless diversion. Nevertheless, if a member of one of the local native tribes in my region of the country knocked on my door and laid claim to the 9,000 square feet my property is comprised of, I’d at least hear them out.

Of course, you didn’t consider relative population density in the two scenarios you’ve tried to conflate, but you can’t get everything right.

Hey, look, just tell me why any Palestinian, whose ancestors have occupied the land in question on an uninterrupted basis for thousands of years, should not be outraged that immigrants from Russia, Poland, and Brooklyn descended on the land in the past 100 years and, for the most part, terrorized their recent ancestors to the point where they were left with two choices: leave now or die. The convergence of biblical Jews indigenous to that region and the modern Israelis living in that region is what? 10 - 15%? The other 85 - 90% have as much historical claim to that land as the rest of us, if we’re to belief their own holy texts.

You can’t win this war of words.

I know that you didn’t buy your property from the indigenous native Americans. And that makes you a liar and a hypocrite.

Indigenous peoples of the Americas intermixed with the European settlers to the extent that pure-blooded indigenous people are relatively rare. You can be 3/4 Irish and still be eligible for tribal enrollment in some tribes. Any brown haired hazel eyed freckled Apache claiming their land was stolen can go suck a lemon.

Muslims and Jews dont mix. Their various ancestral claims to land are not as muddled. Apples and Oranges.

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Anonymous wrote:Did any of the protesters condemn Hamas? Serious question?

You need to face the music. People have been angry for a long time about how much money our govt wastes propping up a belligerent theocratic "democracy," and this might be the straw the breaks the camel's back.

Right, US interests are totally served by letting Israel be destroyed

The state of Israel has resulted in nearly 7 decades of apartheid and oppression. Maybe it’s time for the US to stop giving it money and shielding it from the consequences of its actions on the world stage.

Look, many other states have failed and their people are fine. The third Reich was wiped off the face of the map and the German people have never been better. The USSR was wiped off the map and Russians are still invading other countries. The confederacy was wiped off the map and idiot Americans are thriving. If Israel is wiped off the map and Jews have to coexist in a democracy where everyone has a vote, they will be fine. And maybe they won’t have to build bomb shelters in their homes.

You mean the Third Reich that tried to exterminate all Jews and almost succeeded, leading the UN to create a safe haven for Jews on their indigenous lands that they had been living on for millennia even despite attempts to expel them? That Third Reich?

Please tell us more about the current Israeli Jews having lived on that land for millennia …

By this definition, you are a settler here in America. Why don’t you offer up your land to a Native American?

There’s no known dispute related to the coastal property I own right now. I also paid for it. If someone asserted ownership in the past 100 years, a system exists to sort that out.

You, on the other hand, are trying to keep a straight face while arguing that people from the Ukraine, Poland, and Brooklyn who descended on indigenous people in that region as far back as 100 years ago or so, and as recent as last week, to terrorize them into abandoning their property, have the same land rights as me.

You did not pay the indigenous people for your land. So arbitrary time parameter you are going with is 100 years? The Native Americans have the same rights to their land as the Palestinians. Furthermore, Jews have been in Palestine since before Islam was invented unlike your ancestors in the US.

You know nothing about my property ownership, so that’s a pointless diversion. Nevertheless, if a member of one of the local native tribes in my region of the country knocked on my door and laid claim to the 9,000 square feet my property is comprised of, I’d at least hear them out.

Of course, you didn’t consider relative population density in the two scenarios you’ve tried to conflate, but you can’t get everything right.

Hey, look, just tell me why any Palestinian, whose ancestors have occupied the land in question on an uninterrupted basis for thousands of years, should not be outraged that immigrants from Russia, Poland, and Brooklyn descended on the land in the past 100 years and, for the most part, terrorized their recent ancestors to the point where they were left with two choices: leave now or die. The convergence of biblical Jews indigenous to that region and the modern Israelis living in that region is what? 10 - 15%? The other 85 - 90% have as much historical claim to that land as the rest of us, if we’re to belief their own holy texts.

You can’t win this war of words.

Not sure what you mean by indigenous to the region and how many generations back you’re allowed to go? Where are your stats of 10-15% from? Jews have been living continuously in the land that is currently Israel for thousands of years - the land called Judea. But around 60% of Israelis currently in Israel are Mizrahi, meaning they are from the Middle East/North Africa within the last few generations. They are in Israel because they were expelled from the countries they had lived in for 100s of years - Iran, Iraq, Yemen, Morocco, Syria, etc. They arrived in Israel between 1920 and 1970. When the State of Israel was formed in 1948, there were around 1 million Arabs and 600,000 Jews (and about 150,000 Christians).

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Anonymous wrote:Did any of the protesters condemn Hamas? Serious question?

You need to face the music. People have been angry for a long time about how much money our govt wastes propping up a belligerent theocratic "democracy," and this might be the straw the breaks the camel's back.

Right, US interests are totally served by letting Israel be destroyed

The state of Israel has resulted in nearly 7 decades of apartheid and oppression. Maybe it’s time for the US to stop giving it money and shielding it from the consequences of its actions on the world stage.

Look, many other states have failed and their people are fine. The third Reich was wiped off the face of the map and the German people have never been better. The USSR was wiped off the map and Russians are still invading other countries. The confederacy was wiped off the map and idiot Americans are thriving. If Israel is wiped off the map and Jews have to coexist in a democracy where everyone has a vote, they will be fine. And maybe they won’t have to build bomb shelters in their homes.

You mean the Third Reich that tried to exterminate all Jews and almost succeeded, leading the UN to create a safe haven for Jews on their indigenous lands that they had been living on for millennia even despite attempts to expel them? That Third Reich?

Please tell us more about the current Israeli Jews having lived on that land for millennia …

By this definition, you are a settler here in America. Why don’t you offer up your land to a Native American?

There’s no known dispute related to the coastal property I own right now. I also paid for it. If someone asserted ownership in the past 100 years, a system exists to sort that out.

You, on the other hand, are trying to keep a straight face while arguing that people from the Ukraine, Poland, and Brooklyn who descended on indigenous people in that region as far back as 100 years ago or so, and as recent as last week, to terrorize them into abandoning their property, have the same land rights as me.

You did not pay the indigenous people for your land. So arbitrary time parameter you are going with is 100 years? The Native Americans have the same rights to their land as the Palestinians. Furthermore, Jews have been in Palestine since before Islam was invented unlike your ancestors in the US.

You know nothing about my property ownership, so that’s a pointless diversion. Nevertheless, if a member of one of the local native tribes in my region of the country knocked on my door and laid claim to the 9,000 square feet my property is comprised of, I’d at least hear them out.

Of course, you didn’t consider relative population density in the two scenarios you’ve tried to conflate, but you can’t get everything right.

Hey, look, just tell me why any Palestinian, whose ancestors have occupied the land in question on an uninterrupted basis for thousands of years, should not be outraged that immigrants from Russia, Poland, and Brooklyn descended on the land in the past 100 years and, for the most part, terrorized their recent ancestors to the point where they were left with two choices: leave now or die. The convergence of biblical Jews indigenous to that region and the modern Israelis living in that region is what? 10 - 15%? The other 85 - 90% have as much historical claim to that land as the rest of us, if we’re to belief their own holy texts.

You can’t win this war of words.

I know that you didn’t buy your property from the indigenous native Americans. And that makes you a liar and a hypocrite.

DP.

Agree.

No one is putting the genie back in the bottle. It’s preposterous.

We don't have to. For "culture revolution" we just need to redefine things. Let me make a little prediction that soon term "antisemitism" will no longer refer to Jews only but also will include All the speakers of Semitic languages and would be used as an umbrella term for "Jew hate and Islamophobia". Tell me you don't see this coming. With all the honestly, there are both: hatred of Jews AND Islamophobia. And whatever is happening now is exacerbating both.

I don’t understand your point. I certainly don’t agree that most of the people who are Islamophobes are the same people as the anti-semites. The forces which are amplifying anti-Semitism are not those which are amplifying Islamophobia.

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Anonymous wrote:I have an idea. They should call for Hamas to release the hostages, which would instantly end the hostilities.

It would certainly be a step in the right direction, but it wouldn't end the way instantly. Hamas still needs to be rooted out

The protest was not organized to call for the release of the hostages. It was organized to draw attention to the suffering of the Palestinian people and call for a cease - fire.

There are many other ways the attention has been on the hostages (the posters, profiles on network TV, politicians statements, etc etc).

Because there wasn't enough attention drawn to this already everywhere around the world? How is this not a well coordinated campaign, you think it's organic grass roots thing to draw crowds into the streets when most people just go about their lives and are more interested in sports and vanity tik tok videos? Explain why the protests commenced before Israel even started bombing Gaza? Because it was needed to divert attention from the horror of the medieval attack on Oct 7 that would make Genghis Khan blush? Before people had a chance to master the outrage against Hamas.. protests were quickly organized and masses of people mobilized just like this?

When I see someone burning an Israel flag, I assume they're protesting against the Israeli government, not that they're antisemites.

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Anonymous wrote:Did any of the protesters condemn Hamas? Serious question?

You need to face the music. People have been angry for a long time about how much money our govt wastes propping up a belligerent theocratic "democracy," and this might be the straw the breaks the camel's back.

Right, US interests are totally served by letting Israel be destroyed

The state of Israel has resulted in nearly 7 decades of apartheid and oppression. Maybe it’s time for the US to stop giving it money and shielding it from the consequences of its actions on the world stage.

Look, many other states have failed and their people are fine. The third Reich was wiped off the face of the map and the German people have never been better. The USSR was wiped off the map and Russians are still invading other countries. The confederacy was wiped off the map and idiot Americans are thriving. If Israel is wiped off the map and Jews have to coexist in a democracy where everyone has a vote, they will be fine. And maybe they won’t have to build bomb shelters in their homes.

You mean the Third Reich that tried to exterminate all Jews and almost succeeded, leading the UN to create a safe haven for Jews on their indigenous lands that they had been living on for millennia even despite attempts to expel them? That Third Reich?

Please tell us more about the current Israeli Jews having lived on that land for millennia …

By this definition, you are a settler here in America. Why don’t you offer up your land to a Native American?

There’s no known dispute related to the coastal property I own right now. I also paid for it. If someone asserted ownership in the past 100 years, a system exists to sort that out.

You, on the other hand, are trying to keep a straight face while arguing that people from the Ukraine, Poland, and Brooklyn who descended on indigenous people in that region as far back as 100 years ago or so, and as recent as last week, to terrorize them into abandoning their property, have the same land rights as me.

You did not pay the indigenous people for your land. So arbitrary time parameter you are going with is 100 years? The Native Americans have the same rights to their land as the Palestinians. Furthermore, Jews have been in Palestine since before Islam was invented unlike your ancestors in the US.

You know nothing about my property ownership, so that’s a pointless diversion. Nevertheless, if a member of one of the local native tribes in my region of the country knocked on my door and laid claim to the 9,000 square feet my property is comprised of, I’d at least hear them out.

Of course, you didn’t consider relative population density in the two scenarios you’ve tried to conflate, but you can’t get everything right.

Hey, look, just tell me why any Palestinian, whose ancestors have occupied the land in question on an uninterrupted basis for thousands of years, should not be outraged that immigrants from Russia, Poland, and Brooklyn descended on the land in the past 100 years and, for the most part, terrorized their recent ancestors to the point where they were left with two choices: leave now or die. The convergence of biblical Jews indigenous to that region and the modern Israelis living in that region is what? 10 - 15%? The other 85 - 90% have as much historical claim to that land as the rest of us, if we’re to belief their own holy texts.

You can’t win this war of words.

I know that you didn’t buy your property from the indigenous native Americans. And that makes you a liar and a hypocrite.

Did they acquire their property in the U.S. via the MLS, or through the Zionist method of “Leave or die” ultimatum? If the latter, hell yes, they are a hypocrite.

You know so there are a lot of people living in Israel who had nothing to do with the past right?? But you want them to just give their country back?

So the criteria is, if they bought their land in Israel, and they weren’t just given it by the government who took it straight from someone else’s hands? Ok well almost every home in Israel was bought and paid for by its current occupiers. If you’re talking about the settlers in the West Bank who have thrown people out of their homes, i and most Israelis agree with you that this is awful and should stop. But if you think that most people living in their homes in Tel Aviv and Haifa etc went and stole them from Palestinians then i suggest further research on your part.