Did Christian homophobia come from a mistranslation of the Bible?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Too bad this thread went off the rails. It actually started as a good faith discussion

And as with most threads here, atheists simply cannot resist inserting themselves into the middle of the discussion and calling everyone not an atheist a kook. They’re drawn to it like moths to porch light. It’s fetishistic.

No one would GAF what the religious nutters are doing if they weren’t trying to force their beliefs on everyone else.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Too bad this thread went off the rails. It actually started as a good faith discussion

And as with most threads here, atheists simply cannot resist inserting themselves into the middle of the discussion and calling everyone not an atheist a kook. They’re drawn to it like moths to porch light. It’s fetishistic.

+1 it’s obsessive

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“Homophobia” literally means “fear of homosexuality/homosexuals”.

I don’t know a single person who fears them, or their lifestyle.

But the Bible is quite clear that it is a Sin. All peoples are deserving of love and are able to receive the mercy of God if they seek it. But that doesn’t mean they aren’t sinners.

Homosexuals are sinners. But I don’t know anyone who fears them.

See the Bible doesn’t say anywhere that being homosexual and loving another adult of the sane sex is a sin.

Lust is a sin, regardless of the sex of the subject of the attraction. Sex between men, between women, or between people and animals, are all explicitly defined as sin in the Book of Leviticus.

This really isn’t subject to argument or interpretation.

You can choose to agree or not, but the text itself is perfectly unambiguous.

So then just as "sinful" as sex between men and women.

Outside of marriage, yes. Different by degree perhaps, but both are sin.

Did you think I would argue about that? Wow. You really don’t understand me then.

Lust is lust. Even for a heterosexual married couple.

God created hetero marriage for the husband and wife to be lustful and have sex.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And that’s fine. Hell has unlimited room. As they will one day come to find.

How very Christian of you!

Religion convinced the world that there's an invisible man in the sky who watches everything you do. And there's 10 things he doesn't want you to do or else you'll go to a burning place with a lake of fire until the end of eternity. But he loves you!
- George Carlin

George Carlin was addicted to drugs and got his daughter addicted to drugs.

Really a sad man who hurt his daughter very much.

You just love ad hominems, don't you! And you love to ignore the point! And you don't understand I was quoting a joke to make fun of your evil wish that I suffer eternally. I don't wish that on you, or anybody. That makes you a bad person, and me a better one than you. End period.

Prefer that to the Carlin quote?

I don’t take any advice from drug addicted comedians.

Carlin didn’t believe in God, but believed God sent people to hell?

A God that doesn’t exist doesn’t do anything, much less send humans to hell.

It's not advice, it's a joke. Showing the ridiculousness and moral repulsiveness of your claim that god is sending people to hell.

You are the one making that claim.

God doesn’t send people to Hell. People send themselves there, by Free Will.

Correct. We make the choice.

We can’t blame God.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Homophobia” literally means “fear of homosexuality/homosexuals”.

I don’t know a single person who fears them, or their lifestyle.

But the Bible is quite clear that it is a Sin. All peoples are deserving of love and are able to receive the mercy of God if they seek it. But that doesn’t mean they aren’t sinners.

Homosexuals are sinners. But I don’t know anyone who fears them.

See the Bible doesn’t say anywhere that being homosexual and loving another adult of the sane sex is a sin.

Lust is a sin, regardless of the sex of the subject of the attraction. Sex between men, between women, or between people and animals, are all explicitly defined as sin in the Book of Leviticus.

This really isn’t subject to argument or interpretation.

You can choose to agree or not, but the text itself is perfectly unambiguous.

So then just as "sinful" as sex between men and women.

Outside of marriage, yes. Different by degree perhaps, but both are sin.

Did you think I would argue about that? Wow. You really don’t understand me then.

Lust is lust. Even for a heterosexual married couple.

God created hetero marriage for the husband and wife to be lustful and have sex.

Then I guess they "sin" as much as any other two "lustful" people. By design.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Too bad this thread went off the rails. It actually started as a good faith discussion

And as with most threads here, atheists simply cannot resist inserting themselves into the middle of the discussion and calling everyone not an atheist a kook. They’re drawn to it like moths to porch light. It’s fetishistic.

+1 it’s obsessive

Are you kidding? Do you see the topic of this thread?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And that’s fine. Hell has unlimited room. As they will one day come to find.

How very Christian of you!

Religion convinced the world that there's an invisible man in the sky who watches everything you do. And there's 10 things he doesn't want you to do or else you'll go to a burning place with a lake of fire until the end of eternity. But he loves you!
- George Carlin

George Carlin was addicted to drugs and got his daughter addicted to drugs.

Really a sad man who hurt his daughter very much.

You just love ad hominems, don't you! And you love to ignore the point! And you don't understand I was quoting a joke to make fun of your evil wish that I suffer eternally. I don't wish that on you, or anybody. That makes you a bad person, and me a better one than you. End period.

Prefer that to the Carlin quote?

What has possibly convinced you that everyone must respond to you in a way you think is acceptable? And that you qualify every interaction as a attack or philosophical argument is just weird.

Do you see the irony in your post? Of course people can respond however they like. As can I.

You're still a horrible person for wishing people to suffer for eternity simply because they have different beliefs than you. Don't you see that? Don't you ever question that position?

You’re replying to the wrong person.

I’m the one who pointed out that those who choose to turn their backs on God and urge others to as well, or make jokes of sexually defiling a church or religious practice, would one day learn that Hell is indeed quite real. And it will be quite crowded, I’m sure - but it will always have room for one more.

You’ve got the ability (at the present) to spare yourself of that. But as they say in commercials, it’s a limited time offer. When you die, it’s too late. We’re only alive on earth for a lifetime. What’s a lifetime compared to eternity?

You should open yourself to God while you still have time.

I will open myself to a god as soon as I see any evidence that there is one. Right now I don't. Would you like to present me some? I will listen. Happy to have that discussion.

Whether or not I was replying to "the wrong person", as this is an anonymous forum, is irrelevant. If that person agrees with the sentiment responded to, then the response is just as applicable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Too bad this thread went off the rails. It actually started as a good faith discussion

And as with most threads here, atheists simply cannot resist inserting themselves into the middle of the discussion and calling everyone not an atheist a kook. They’re drawn to it like moths to porch light. It’s fetishistic.

+1 it’s obsessive

+2. This could have been an interesting discussion. Until a bunch of atheists joined who haven't bothered to read/watch OP's links so they can't have an opinion about the content of the OP, but they sure have their opinions on everything else Christian.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Too bad this thread went off the rails. It actually started as a good faith discussion

And as with most threads here, atheists simply cannot resist inserting themselves into the middle of the discussion and calling everyone not an atheist a kook. They’re drawn to it like moths to porch light. It’s fetishistic.

+1 it’s obsessive

Are you kidding? Do you see the topic of this thread?

DP and the thread title is obvious--you're the one who missed it. Do you have an opinion on the "mistranslation" in the thread title, or are you just here to carp?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Too bad this thread went off the rails. It actually started as a good faith discussion

And as with most threads here, atheists simply cannot resist inserting themselves into the middle of the discussion and calling everyone not an atheist a kook. They’re drawn to it like moths to porch light. It’s fetishistic.

+1 it’s obsessive

Are you kidding? Do you see the topic of this thread?

DP and the thread title is obvious--you're the one who missed it. Do you have an opinion on the "mistranslation" in the thread title, or are you just here to carp?

Nahh you didn't even read what you are responding to.

The part about "atheists simply cannot resist inserting themselves into the middle of the discussion".

The very topic thread insinuates there might be mistakes in the bible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Too bad this thread went off the rails. It actually started as a good faith discussion

And as with most threads here, atheists simply cannot resist inserting themselves into the middle of the discussion and calling everyone not an atheist a kook. They’re drawn to it like moths to porch light. It’s fetishistic.

No one would GAF what the religious nutters are doing if they weren’t trying to force their beliefs on everyone else.

OP was hardly trying to force religious based homophobia on anyone but seeking to understand where this unfortunate belief system comes from on a theological level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Homophobia” literally means “fear of homosexuality/homosexuals”.

I don’t know a single person who fears them, or their lifestyle.

But the Bible is quite clear that it is a Sin. All peoples are deserving of love and are able to receive the mercy of God if they seek it. But that doesn’t mean they aren’t sinners.

Homosexuals are sinners. But I don’t know anyone who fears them.

See the Bible doesn’t say anywhere that being homosexual and loving another adult of the sane sex is a sin.

Lust is a sin, regardless of the sex of the subject of the attraction. Sex between men, between women, or between people and animals, are all explicitly defined as sin in the Book of Leviticus.

This really isn’t subject to argument or interpretation.

You can choose to agree or not, but the text itself is perfectly unambiguous.

So then just as "sinful" as sex between men and women.

Outside of marriage, yes. Different by degree perhaps, but both are sin.

Did you think I would argue about that? Wow. You really don’t understand me then.

Lust is lust. Even for a heterosexual married couple.

God created hetero marriage for the husband and wife to be lustful and have sex.

God didn’t create marriage.

He wanted everyone to be celibate and to serve them. But realized most human he weak and if you must give in to lust then do it within the confines of marriage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Too bad this thread went off the rails. It actually started as a good faith discussion

And as with most threads here, atheists simply cannot resist inserting themselves into the middle of the discussion and calling everyone not an atheist a kook. They’re drawn to it like moths to porch light. It’s fetishistic.

No one would GAF what the religious nutters are doing if they weren’t trying to force their beliefs on everyone else.

OP was hardly trying to force religious based homophobia on anyone but seeking to understand where this unfortunate belief system comes from on a theological level.

Op is not trying to force religious based homophobia on people they are trying to understand why religious nutters are forcing homophobia on all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Too bad this thread went off the rails. It actually started as a good faith discussion

And as with most threads here, atheists simply cannot resist inserting themselves into the middle of the discussion and calling everyone not an atheist a kook. They’re drawn to it like moths to porch light. It’s fetishistic.

No one would GAF what the religious nutters are doing if they weren’t trying to force their beliefs on everyone else.

OP was hardly trying to force religious based homophobia on anyone but seeking to understand where this unfortunate belief system comes from on a theological level.

Op is not trying to force religious based homophobia on people they are trying to understand why religious nutters are forcing homophobia on all.

A lot of “Christian” organizations are actually funded by Jewish special interests so I would assume the reason is to try to further divide and goad the American public

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Too bad this thread went off the rails. It actually started as a good faith discussion

And as with most threads here, atheists simply cannot resist inserting themselves into the middle of the discussion and calling everyone not an atheist a kook. They’re drawn to it like moths to porch light. It’s fetishistic.

No one would GAF what the religious nutters are doing if they weren’t trying to force their beliefs on everyone else.

OP was hardly trying to force religious based homophobia on anyone but seeking to understand where this unfortunate belief system comes from on a theological level.

Op is not trying to force religious based homophobia on people they are trying to understand why religious nutters are forcing homophobia on all.

How are people forcing homophobia onto others? There are a couple topics about gay people and religious people do not start the threads; I have never seen a thread posted here about gay people started by religious people. If religious people were so concerned about gay people and gay sex, why would they not be posting about it? I don’t understand how religious people are supposedly so worried about gay people but the only people here talking about gay people are atheists. Atheists are the ones bringing up gay people.