School board results?

[Anonymous]

Here's what burns me about SBG, not all high schools use it. So if schools 1 and 2 use it, but schools 3, 4, and 5 don't, and use the old system...how are grades standardized? When kids from each those schools apply to let's say VA Tech, who does better from a grade/GPA standpoint? The kids who have grades based on SBG or the regular way? In this area where so many kids in FCPS apply to many of the same schools, I am wondering how this affects their ability to be accepted grade wise. Is the B student from SBG the same as a B student from the regular grading?

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Anonymous wrote:It is a shame that the Demo party even backed Rachna Sizemore Heizer. She was a HUGE part of the school closure issue with COVID and is only politically driven and does not care about the children at all. I am still in shock that she won.

Most people understand people were making tough decisions with limited knowledge in an unprecedented situation during Covid. As a parent at that time I didn't want my kids going to school, getting Covid, bringing it back home to more vulnerable family members etc. It was a scary time that was disruptive whether schools were virtual or in person. Most of us know people who died and even more who were hospitalized. I don't blame any school board member for that--and I imagine many others feel the same.

I preferred McLaughlin, but I don't see Sizemore Heizer through the same lens as you.

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The crazy Open Schools Now! people were very vocal, but not representative of most parents.

That’s not true. Or, it’s a significant re-write of history. When parents were given an option in summer. 2020 between virtual and in person for 2020-2021, a significant majority chose in person. And people who wanted more caution in fall 2020 were over it by spring when FCPS failed again and again to reopen because (in one instance), they couldn’t figure out lunch logistics. FCPS was one of the last school districts to reopen. And they would not have in Spring 2021 if the State Senate hadn’t voted almost unanimously to make them. And even then, any teacher with with any medical condition, including a BMI of 26, didn’t have to come back, and we got Monitors and virtual learning for kids in school. Even though they were first in line for vaccines and had the option to be fully vaccines when they returned.

Heck, Youngkin won BA based label on suburban moms pissed about the failure to schools to reopen. Without that (and McAwful being a crap candidate), he never would ha won.

Crazy was teachers standing outside school board meetings carrying small coffins.

Repeat this to yourself as needed: You have no entitlement to dictate the health risks for other people. None. ZERO.

I'm not a teacher. But I've been in the schools a lot in various capacities. And those places, esp the lunch rooms in our HS, are petri dishes in GOOD years. If they did not want that exposure for themselves, or to bring home to vulnerable family members, that is their right. And you should have absolutely ZERO say in that.

Mic drop.

Nope, if you have an issue with germ exposure, maybe don't choose a job that exposes you to 100s of other people daily.

You do realize that your health at 25 when you start your job as a teacher is not going to be the same at 55?

During the COVID remote learning year, DD had really wonderful teachers. One was near retirement. The other had nearly died of health complications the previous year. If they didn’t want to come in to work, I would absolutely understand why.

One of the things I don’t really understand is y’all screaming about teacher retention on the one hand, and crapping on the teachers on the other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's what burns me about SBG, not all high schools use it. So if schools 1 and 2 use it, but schools 3, 4, and 5 don't, and use the old system...how are grades standardized? When kids from each those schools apply to let's say VA Tech, who does better from a grade/GPA standpoint? The kids who have grades based on SBG or the regular way? In this area where so many kids in FCPS apply to many of the same schools, I am wondering how this affects their ability to be accepted grade wise. Is the B student from SBG the same as a B student from the regular grading?

It has no effect because universities do not compare kids across different high schools. Kids are only compared against kids applying from the same high school. This is a well-known practice that all major universities follow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's what burns me about SBG, not all high schools use it. So if schools 1 and 2 use it, but schools 3, 4, and 5 don't, and use the old system...how are grades standardized? When kids from each those schools apply to let's say VA Tech, who does better from a grade/GPA standpoint? The kids who have grades based on SBG or the regular way? In this area where so many kids in FCPS apply to many of the same schools, I am wondering how this affects their ability to be accepted grade wise. Is the B student from SBG the same as a B student from the regular grading?

While this is an issue, the bigger issue is that it just doesn't work with natural human tendencies or help students learn good behavior traits for life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can we give this board a chance before acting like the sky is falling?

Well we have no choice.

The superintendent hasn't changed and it's the same party ruling though, so there is no reason to expect anything different.

Reid is on VERY thin ice. For a number of reasons. The more competent and moderate entering School Board will not work in her favor.

If she is still the Superintendent at the start of, say, the 24-25 school year I will be SHOCKED.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is a shame that the Demo party even backed Rachna Sizemore Heizer. She was a HUGE part of the school closure issue with COVID and is only politically driven and does not care about the children at all. I am still in shock that she won.

Most people understand people were making tough decisions with limited knowledge in an unprecedented situation during Covid. As a parent at that time I didn't want my kids going to school, getting Covid, bringing it back home to more vulnerable family members etc. It was a scary time that was disruptive whether schools were virtual or in person. Most of us know people who died and even more who were hospitalized. I don't blame any school board member for that--and I imagine many others feel the same.

I preferred McLaughlin, but I don't see Sizemore Heizer through the same lens as you.

+1 million

The crazy Open Schools Now! people were very vocal, but not representative of most parents.

That’s not true. Or, it’s a significant re-write of history. When parents were given an option in summer. 2020 between virtual and in person for 2020-2021, a significant majority chose in person. And people who wanted more caution in fall 2020 were over it by spring when FCPS failed again and again to reopen because (in one instance), they couldn’t figure out lunch logistics. FCPS was one of the last school districts to reopen. And they would not have in Spring 2021 if the State Senate hadn’t voted almost unanimously to make them. And even then, any teacher with with any medical condition, including a BMI of 26, didn’t have to come back, and we got Monitors and virtual learning for kids in school. Even though they were first in line for vaccines and had the option to be fully vaccines when they returned.

Heck, Youngkin won BA based label on suburban moms pissed about the failure to schools to reopen. Without that (and McAwful being a crap candidate), he never would ha won.

Crazy was teachers standing outside school board meetings carrying small coffins.

Repeat this to yourself as needed: You have no entitlement to dictate the health risks for other people. None. ZERO.

I'm not a teacher. But I've been in the schools a lot in various capacities. And those places, esp the lunch rooms in our HS, are petri dishes in GOOD years. If they did not want that exposure for themselves, or to bring home to vulnerable family members, that is their right. And you should have absolutely ZERO say in that.

Mic drop.

Nope, if you have an issue with germ exposure, maybe don't choose a job that exposes you to 100s of other people daily.

Because we don’t already have problems with teacher shortages and qualified individuals choosing a deeply underpaid and disrespected profession.

Eff right off with that nonsense and stop treating teachers like glorified babysitters. You sound like you care more about getting your kids out of your hair for seven hours a day than about their education.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Many of us wish we could have moderate democrats as well. Not counting homework for grading and regrading old assessments based on a future assessment to me is an experiment that isn't well thought out and impacts my kid daily verses some book banning that my kid didn't care about because the majority of students don't even go to the library for books at their school.

Test retakes are great - they promote learning.

That's the theory. In actual practice, they promote the opposite.

It turns out, the old fashioned way of doing things is the most effective. Students study, learn, are tested, get grades. Everyone knows where they stand. It's clear.

What’s clear is that you understand education as a separator rather than as a public good.

They get grades in the first place before retakes. So they know where they stand. And then they have a chance to improve.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can we give this board a chance before acting like the sky is falling?

Well we have no choice.

The superintendent hasn't changed and it's the same party ruling though, so there is no reason to expect anything different.

Reid is on VERY thin ice. For a number of reasons. The more competent and moderate entering School Board will not work in her favor.

If she is still the Superintendent at the start of, say, the 24-25 school year I will be SHOCKED.

DP. Are they more competent and moderate though? I'll believe it when I see it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's what burns me about SBG, not all high schools use it. So if schools 1 and 2 use it, but schools 3, 4, and 5 don't, and use the old system...how are grades standardized? When kids from each those schools apply to let's say VA Tech, who does better from a grade/GPA standpoint? The kids who have grades based on SBG or the regular way? In this area where so many kids in FCPS apply to many of the same schools, I am wondering how this affects their ability to be accepted grade wise. Is the B student from SBG the same as a B student from the regular grading?

It has no effect because universities do not compare kids across different high schools. Kids are only compared against kids applying from the same high school. This is a well-known practice that all major universities follow.

COMPLETELY false. Kids are compared with kids from their part of the country, not their school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we give this board a chance before acting like the sky is falling?

Well we have no choice.

The superintendent hasn't changed and it's the same party ruling though, so there is no reason to expect anything different.

Reid is on VERY thin ice. For a number of reasons. The more competent and moderate entering School Board will not work in her favor.

If she is still the Superintendent at the start of, say, the 24-25 school year I will be SHOCKED.

DP. Are they more competent and moderate though? I'll believe it when I see it.

In some cases, you’ve already seen it. Moon was a long-serving School Board member who is returning. McElveen similar but younger. And it would be harder to be less competent (or equally so) as the woefully unqualified Abrar Omeish.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's what burns me about SBG, not all high schools use it. So if schools 1 and 2 use it, but schools 3, 4, and 5 don't, and use the old system...how are grades standardized? When kids from each those schools apply to let's say VA Tech, who does better from a grade/GPA standpoint? The kids who have grades based on SBG or the regular way? In this area where so many kids in FCPS apply to many of the same schools, I am wondering how this affects their ability to be accepted grade wise. Is the B student from SBG the same as a B student from the regular grading?

It has no effect because universities do not compare kids across different high schools. Kids are only compared against kids applying from the same high school. This is a well-known practice that all major universities follow.

COMPLETELY false. Kids are compared with kids from their part of the country, not their school.

Their transcript is assessed by the individual school's available rigor. As long as they take the most rigorous course load available to them at their high school, they are not penalized in comparison to kids at schools with more AP availability. That is how kids from middle-of-nowhere Virginia get into UVA with only four or five AP classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is a shame that the Demo party even backed Rachna Sizemore Heizer. She was a HUGE part of the school closure issue with COVID and is only politically driven and does not care about the children at all. I am still in shock that she won.

Most people understand people were making tough decisions with limited knowledge in an unprecedented situation during Covid. As a parent at that time I didn't want my kids going to school, getting Covid, bringing it back home to more vulnerable family members etc. It was a scary time that was disruptive whether schools were virtual or in person. Most of us know people who died and even more who were hospitalized. I don't blame any school board member for that--and I imagine many others feel the same.

I preferred McLaughlin, but I don't see Sizemore Heizer through the same lens as you.

+1 million

The crazy Open Schools Now! people were very vocal, but not representative of most parents.

That’s not true. Or, it’s a significant re-write of history. When parents were given an option in summer. 2020 between virtual and in person for 2020-2021, a significant majority chose in person. And people who wanted more caution in fall 2020 were over it by spring when FCPS failed again and again to reopen because (in one instance), they couldn’t figure out lunch logistics. FCPS was one of the last school districts to reopen. And they would not have in Spring 2021 if the State Senate hadn’t voted almost unanimously to make them. And even then, any teacher with with any medical condition, including a BMI of 26, didn’t have to come back, and we got Monitors and virtual learning for kids in school. Even though they were first in line for vaccines and had the option to be fully vaccines when they returned.

Heck, Youngkin won BA based label on suburban moms pissed about the failure to schools to reopen. Without that (and McAwful being a crap candidate), he never would ha won.

Crazy was teachers standing outside school board meetings carrying small coffins.

Repeat this to yourself as needed: You have no entitlement to dictate the health risks for other people. None. ZERO.

I'm not a teacher. But I've been in the schools a lot in various capacities. And those places, esp the lunch rooms in our HS, are petri dishes in GOOD years. If they did not want that exposure for themselves, or to bring home to vulnerable family members, that is their right. And you should have absolutely ZERO say in that.

Mic drop.

Nope, if you have an issue with germ exposure, maybe don't choose a job that exposes you to 100s of other people daily.

Because we don’t already have problems with teacher shortages and qualified individuals choosing a deeply underpaid and disrespected profession.

Eff right off with that nonsense and stop treating teachers like glorified babysitters. You sound like you care more about getting your kids out of your hair for seven hours a day than about their education.

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There is such a thing called a self-fulfilling prophecy. It doesn't seem like their revelation of this issue with the job has helped the profession or their own outlook on their job. Teachers weren't always viewed this way. Maybe say a positive thing about the job or what you want that will also help the community and more of that will come. This labeling of the job as bad does not seem to be working for anyone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's what burns me about SBG, not all high schools use it. So if schools 1 and 2 use it, but schools 3, 4, and 5 don't, and use the old system...how are grades standardized? When kids from each those schools apply to let's say VA Tech, who does better from a grade/GPA standpoint? The kids who have grades based on SBG or the regular way? In this area where so many kids in FCPS apply to many of the same schools, I am wondering how this affects their ability to be accepted grade wise. Is the B student from SBG the same as a B student from the regular grading?

It has no effect because universities do not compare kids across different high schools. Kids are only compared against kids applying from the same high school. This is a well-known practice that all major universities follow.

COMPLETELY false. Kids are compared with kids from their part of the country, not their school.

Their transcript is assessed by the individual school's available rigor. As long as they take the most rigorous course load available to them at their high school, they are not penalized in comparison to kids at schools with more AP availability. That is how kids from middle-of-nowhere Virginia get into UVA with only four or five AP classes.

But kids in FCPS can take classes at any school in the county, so there is no real distinction between high schools unless it's a huge gap like Mount Vernon compared to Langley. Robinson is not being compared differently than South Lakes or Marshall.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's what burns me about SBG, not all high schools use it. So if schools 1 and 2 use it, but schools 3, 4, and 5 don't, and use the old system...how are grades standardized? When kids from each those schools apply to let's say VA Tech, who does better from a grade/GPA standpoint? The kids who have grades based on SBG or the regular way? In this area where so many kids in FCPS apply to many of the same schools, I am wondering how this affects their ability to be accepted grade wise. Is the B student from SBG the same as a B student from the regular grading?

It has no effect because universities do not compare kids across different high schools. Kids are only compared against kids applying from the same high school. This is a well-known practice that all major universities follow.

COMPLETELY false. Kids are compared with kids from their part of the country, not their school.

Their transcript is assessed by the individual school's available rigor. As long as they take the most rigorous course load available to them at their high school, they are not penalized in comparison to kids at schools with more AP availability. That is how kids from middle-of-nowhere Virginia get into UVA with only four or five AP classes.

But kids in FCPS can take classes at any school in the county, so there is no real distinction between high schools unless it's a huge gap like Mount Vernon compared to Langley. Robinson is not being compared differently than South Lakes or Marshall.

What on earth are you talking about?

[Anonymous]

There are many ways for kids to opt into different classes at other high schools. You can take dual enrollment, virtual, elect to attend a school that has a specific set of courses, elect to attend an academy. Most FCPS schools do not have a huge range of IB or AP classes from school to school. I don't know all of them, but the majority have all the major classes that you'd expect at any FCPS school. There isn't someone at VA tech wondering if you didn't really have the same AP classes offered at Centreville that is offered at Oakton. This analysis doesn't exist.