UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve come to the conclusion Gen Z is the most mentally unstable generation. Zero resilience and coping strategies outside of their therapists and pharmaceuticals

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Anonymous wrote:When they said he ran across Central Park I thought that made such good sense—that he had stashed a bag with change of shirt and jacket and new fake ID, and would easily be able to ditch the gun in the park and make it really hard to find. But it seems like he did none of that. If he had fresh clothes and new bag and ID, he could have stayed on that bus until Oregon and disappeared forever.

He should have used his rich pretty privilege to his advantage and threw on a Penn sweatshirt and nobody would have batted an eye at him. He probably look insane in that McDonalds

You're probably right. He's a charismatic guy; he could have blended right in, and if anyone was suspicious, easily thrown them off by laughing with them "yea, I keep getting told I look like that guy. Crazy, huh?"

No doubt he regrets that now.

He ain't acting remorseful nor regretful.


He's shoving policemen in the courthouse and shouting out his personal gospel to the media and spectators.

Nor like he has chronic back pain.
He's throwing himself at walls and furniture and on the ground. Whilst shouting his amateur manifesto.

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't have called him in on a suspicion if he was my son (especially if I was uncertain of his mental health). I'd pray that he surface and I'd try to locate him myself but there's no way I'd call the cops and give him the name.

Let's say it turns out not to be my kid but the cops track my son down and there is an police altercation and my kid ends up being harmed or killed.

There is no way I'd ID my son. Way too much risk.

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+1. There’s been too many instances of people being shot while getting apprehended, especially when mental instability is involved. I wouldn’t hand a possible death sentence to my son by IDing him to the police.

Didn’t David Kacyzinski (sp?) think he had a deal with DOJ for no death penalty for his brother Ted then they turned right around and threw it out the window once apprehended?

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Anonymous wrote:When they said he ran across Central Park I thought that made such good sense—that he had stashed a bag with change of shirt and jacket and new fake ID, and would easily be able to ditch the gun in the park and make it really hard to find. But it seems like he did none of that. If he had fresh clothes and new bag and ID, he could have stayed on that bus until Oregon and disappeared forever.

He should have used his rich pretty privilege to his advantage and threw on a Penn sweatshirt and nobody would have batted an eye at him. He probably look insane in that McDonalds

You're probably right. He's a charismatic guy; he could have blended right in, and if anyone was suspicious, easily thrown them off by laughing with them "yea, I keep getting told I look like that guy. Crazy, huh?"

No doubt he regrets that now.

He ain't acting remorseful nor regretful.


He's shoving policemen in the courthouse and shouting out his personal gospel to the media and spectators.

Prob withdrawal

He looks like your garden variety crazy that you might see on a subway. Not a Robin Hood with a well thought out plan.

People here are crazy.
Hoping someone is tracking IP addresses

FBI does. and saves your social media posts long after you delete them.

Comes in handy for when you derail.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve come to the conclusion Gen Z is the most mentally unstable generation. Zero resilience and coping strategies outside of their therapists and pharmaceuticals

Agree. I think the best thing is a rude awakening.

Have the government go after them for anything and everything - pro-Hamas; any protests; online crazy posts that hinge on inciting violence. I’m all for it even as a Democrat.

We need better people.

Unfortunately, Gen Alpha isn't looking promising.

These kids didn’t raise themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:In case you are one of those who are morally confused:

Good guy: Daniel Penny
Bad Guy: Luigi Mangione

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There are lots of seriously twisted and perverted people out there. So much justification over an assassination. There are people comparing this to what the founding fathers did for political change and text pretzel logic to reach those conclusions.

I think there's a LOT of righteous anger in this country towards the insurance industry. Righteous.

Sure, some people try to game the system. Those individuals pale in comparison to how the insurance industry is gaming the system.

If you can't understand these simple facts, neither I nor anyone else can help you.

So far as the vast majority of people are concerned, the murder of a corrupt, crooked member of this perverted insurance scam industry was a *shrug* event.

You must work in the insurance industry if you can't appreciate the frustration and anger the average America feels.

I don’t work for the insurance industry and I have had claims denied by insurance companies. I understand there is a lot of frustration, but frustration does not make murder acceptable. I bet you yourself feel frustration about many things. I bet you feel frustrations over things like politics, but you’re not going to go out and assassinate a politician, a president or a CEO. Just because you’re frustrated does not mean murder is acceptable.

If you’re advocating for people assassinating people they’re frustrated with well then I can’t help you understand how wrong it is.

What Luigi did wasn’t heroic. In fact, he was a coward. He shot the man in the back. He didn’t even have the righteous indignation or guts to say something to his face.

I am telling you that people are frustrated and angry. Where did I state I am advocating for murder?

Please read what I stated again.

The industry needs to get overhauled with closer regulation. Sure, they shouldn't be required to cover weight loss medication for cosmetic reasons. Sure, they shouldn't be required to cover every politicized and popular medical procedure that is not medically necessary. But denying and delaying medically critical covered procedures is immoral, unethical, and inexcusable. BC/BS trying to limit anesthesia in the middle of a complicated surgery is BEYOND reasonable denial. They were going for it. BC/BS was really going for it.

Discussions of the proposed BCBS policy have been insane. Anesthesiologists' lobbying firm deserves a huge bonus.

Obviously they weren't going to wake people up in the middle of the surgery. The idea was clearly to limit billing and reimbursement based on how long the procedure should have taken. Kind of like a mechanic billing you for labor hours based on the book times. If they opened you up and found another problem, then that could and would be added to the claim.

Yes, sometimes one case will take a little bit longer than another case, and you'll get paid the same for both, but that's pretty normal. This is basically how it works for other doctors.

This is a weird thing to complain about when people generally want to know how much a procedure will cost before going in.

+1

A big insurer backed off its plan to pay less for anesthesia. That’s bad.
https://www.vox.com/policy/390031/anthem-blue-cross-blue-shield-anesthesia-limits-insurance

Many pages ago, a poster asked why health care costs are so much higher than other countries. Anesthesiologists are just one of many reasons, but it's a big one. As an example, the most expensive part of a colonoscopy is the anesthesia, not the gastroenterologist. And that's for a procedure where the gastroenterologist themselves could administer and monitor the anesthesia, but they don't want to piss off the anesthesiologists that they need for the more complicated cases. So the anesthesiologists typically come in for every case, resulting in much higher costs. Colonoscopies are great deals for anesthesiologists.

You are partially right. While the GI dr or colorectal surgeon can write for the drugs, they cannot give it and monitor/manage the patient’s airway under general anesthesia while they are doing their procedure. They are 100% focused on their scope, the findings/taking biopsies , and going in/out without perforating your bowel. But a RN (doesn’t need to even be a CRNA) can be certified in conscious sedation and give that and monitor the patient. That is how these scopes are done acutely at bedside in the ICUs here. This is also how they are done routinely in other counties- no one is getting general anesthesia for scopes in other counties

Airway?

It's through the IV bag already set up. gawd .

that's cool. You just proved to the world that you have no idea how general anesthesia.

Am I suppose to say "gawd" now?

nurses put in IVs all day long. then hook up the anesthesia mixture for your weight.

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Anonymous wrote:In case you are one of those who are morally confused:

Good guy: Daniel Penny
Bad Guy: Luigi Mangione

+1

There are lots of seriously twisted and perverted people out there. So much justification over an assassination. There are people comparing this to what the founding fathers did for political change and text pretzel logic to reach those conclusions.

I think there's a LOT of righteous anger in this country towards the insurance industry. Righteous.

Sure, some people try to game the system. Those individuals pale in comparison to how the insurance industry is gaming the system.

If you can't understand these simple facts, neither I nor anyone else can help you.

So far as the vast majority of people are concerned, the murder of a corrupt, crooked member of this perverted insurance scam industry was a *shrug* event.

You must work in the insurance industry if you can't appreciate the frustration and anger the average America feels.

I don’t work for the insurance industry and I have had claims denied by insurance companies. I understand there is a lot of frustration, but frustration does not make murder acceptable. I bet you yourself feel frustration about many things. I bet you feel frustrations over things like politics, but you’re not going to go out and assassinate a politician, a president or a CEO. Just because you’re frustrated does not mean murder is acceptable.

If you’re advocating for people assassinating people they’re frustrated with well then I can’t help you understand how wrong it is.

What Luigi did wasn’t heroic. In fact, he was a coward. He shot the man in the back. He didn’t even have the righteous indignation or guts to say something to his face.

I am telling you that people are frustrated and angry. Where did I state I am advocating for murder?

Please read what I stated again.

The industry needs to get overhauled with closer regulation. Sure, they shouldn't be required to cover weight loss medication for cosmetic reasons. Sure, they shouldn't be required to cover every politicized and popular medical procedure that is not medically necessary. But denying and delaying medically critical covered procedures is immoral, unethical, and inexcusable. BC/BS trying to limit anesthesia in the middle of a complicated surgery is BEYOND reasonable denial. They were going for it. BC/BS was really going for it.

Discussions of the proposed BCBS policy have been insane. Anesthesiologists' lobbying firm deserves a huge bonus.

Obviously they weren't going to wake people up in the middle of the surgery. The idea was clearly to limit billing and reimbursement based on how long the procedure should have taken. Kind of like a mechanic billing you for labor hours based on the book times. If they opened you up and found another problem, then that could and would be added to the claim.

Yes, sometimes one case will take a little bit longer than another case, and you'll get paid the same for both, but that's pretty normal. This is basically how it works for other doctors.

This is a weird thing to complain about when people generally want to know how much a procedure will cost before going in.

+1

A big insurer backed off its plan to pay less for anesthesia. That’s bad.
https://www.vox.com/policy/390031/anthem-blue-cross-blue-shield-anesthesia-limits-insurance

Many pages ago, a poster asked why health care costs are so much higher than other countries. Anesthesiologists are just one of many reasons, but it's a big one. As an example, the most expensive part of a colonoscopy is the anesthesia, not the gastroenterologist. And that's for a procedure where the gastroenterologist themselves could administer and monitor the anesthesia, but they don't want to piss off the anesthesiologists that they need for the more complicated cases. So the anesthesiologists typically come in for every case, resulting in much higher costs. Colonoscopies are great deals for anesthesiologists.

You are partially right. While the GI dr or colorectal surgeon can write for the drugs, they cannot give it and monitor/manage the patient’s airway under general anesthesia while they are doing their procedure. They are 100% focused on their scope, the findings/taking biopsies , and going in/out without perforating your bowel. But a RN (doesn’t need to even be a CRNA) can be certified in conscious sedation and give that and monitor the patient. That is how these scopes are done acutely at bedside in the ICUs here. This is also how they are done routinely in other counties- no one is getting general anesthesia for scopes in other counties

Airway?

It's through the IV bag already set up. gawd .

that's cool. You just proved to the world that you have no idea how general anesthesia.

Am I suppose to say "gawd" now?

nurses put in IVs all day long. then hook up the anesthesia mixture for your weight.

Exactly! That's when it gets "warm"... and they start asking you fun questions...

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think people realize how many innocent people are killed by way of limiting access to affordable healthcare in this country by none other than Brian Thompson and those like him leading private health insurance companies.

This kid murdered Thompson in cold blood publicly and got caught.

That's the difference. If you saw even one insurance case of a family at their wits end trying to get a claim approved to help their loved one, I'm not sure how you would not feel that it's a kind of murder or your torture. Because these things are not put forth on a public forum enacted as a play for all to see, it's considered acceptable.

It's very much cold blooded murder however. Ask anyone who has worked a length of time in the healthcare industries.

Tell us! Show us the data!

There is data showing 55% of Americans WITH insurance don't do their annual physical. Many of that cohort haven't had a physical in years.

Tell us more about how "limiting access to "affordable" healthcare", as defined by you personally of course, will help what you are so vaguely referring to.

Our physicals cost $1K. With a high-deductible plan we use because it’s cheaper. I’m guessing that’s why. Ped visits are $250-500.

You’re also willfully ignoring all the doctors who are furious at UHC for denying their patients’ claims. Several have said patients died as a result.

Excellent.

So intead of paying $800/month for a family plan and your employer paying $1500/ month for yours, skip insurance and pay out of pocket cash prices. You have $30k to work with per year.

I'm not actually sure what point you're making...but my family plan costs $4K/month total. It's Carefirst off the Exchange. My employer pays the $1500 for me, but I then pay the other $2500/month for my spouse and kids.

A PP mentioned that health insurance is different from many other insurances because you are not only paying for risk pooling, but you are also paying for the negotiated rates (not paying rack rate). It's not really feasible to pay rack rates for most procedures -- you need the benefit of those insurance negotiated rates. 30K or 40K a year won't go very far on the rack rates for an ER visit, for instance. And even if you're pretty rich, you still need some risk pooling -- you could pretty easily end up with a condition or catastrophic illness that costs many millions per year. So I don't know anyone that would skip insurance entirely. Maybe Elon Musk does!

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Anonymous wrote:In case you are one of those who are morally confused:

Good guy: Daniel Penny
Bad Guy: Luigi Mangione

+1

There are lots of seriously twisted and perverted people out there. So much justification over an assassination. There are people comparing this to what the founding fathers did for political change and text pretzel logic to reach those conclusions.

I think there's a LOT of righteous anger in this country towards the insurance industry. Righteous.

Sure, some people try to game the system. Those individuals pale in comparison to how the insurance industry is gaming the system.

If you can't understand these simple facts, neither I nor anyone else can help you.

So far as the vast majority of people are concerned, the murder of a corrupt, crooked member of this perverted insurance scam industry was a *shrug* event.

You must work in the insurance industry if you can't appreciate the frustration and anger the average America feels.

I don’t work for the insurance industry and I have had claims denied by insurance companies. I understand there is a lot of frustration, but frustration does not make murder acceptable. I bet you yourself feel frustration about many things. I bet you feel frustrations over things like politics, but you’re not going to go out and assassinate a politician, a president or a CEO. Just because you’re frustrated does not mean murder is acceptable.

If you’re advocating for people assassinating people they’re frustrated with well then I can’t help you understand how wrong it is.

What Luigi did wasn’t heroic. In fact, he was a coward. He shot the man in the back. He didn’t even have the righteous indignation or guts to say something to his face.

I am telling you that people are frustrated and angry. Where did I state I am advocating for murder?

Please read what I stated again.

The industry needs to get overhauled with closer regulation. Sure, they shouldn't be required to cover weight loss medication for cosmetic reasons. Sure, they shouldn't be required to cover every politicized and popular medical procedure that is not medically necessary. But denying and delaying medically critical covered procedures is immoral, unethical, and inexcusable. BC/BS trying to limit anesthesia in the middle of a complicated surgery is BEYOND reasonable denial. They were going for it. BC/BS was really going for it.

Discussions of the proposed BCBS policy have been insane. Anesthesiologists' lobbying firm deserves a huge bonus.

Obviously they weren't going to wake people up in the middle of the surgery. The idea was clearly to limit billing and reimbursement based on how long the procedure should have taken. Kind of like a mechanic billing you for labor hours based on the book times. If they opened you up and found another problem, then that could and would be added to the claim.

Yes, sometimes one case will take a little bit longer than another case, and you'll get paid the same for both, but that's pretty normal. This is basically how it works for other doctors.

This is a weird thing to complain about when people generally want to know how much a procedure will cost before going in.

+1

A big insurer backed off its plan to pay less for anesthesia. That’s bad.
https://www.vox.com/policy/390031/anthem-blue-cross-blue-shield-anesthesia-limits-insurance

Many pages ago, a poster asked why health care costs are so much higher than other countries. Anesthesiologists are just one of many reasons, but it's a big one. As an example, the most expensive part of a colonoscopy is the anesthesia, not the gastroenterologist. And that's for a procedure where the gastroenterologist themselves could administer and monitor the anesthesia, but they don't want to piss off the anesthesiologists that they need for the more complicated cases. So the anesthesiologists typically come in for every case, resulting in much higher costs. Colonoscopies are great deals for anesthesiologists.

You are partially right. While the GI dr or colorectal surgeon can write for the drugs, they cannot give it and monitor/manage the patient’s airway under general anesthesia while they are doing their procedure. They are 100% focused on their scope, the findings/taking biopsies , and going in/out without perforating your bowel. But a RN (doesn’t need to even be a CRNA) can be certified in conscious sedation and give that and monitor the patient. That is how these scopes are done acutely at bedside in the ICUs here. This is also how they are done routinely in other counties- no one is getting general anesthesia for scopes in other counties

Airway?

It's through the IV bag already set up. gawd .

It's amazing how arrogant someone can be despite total ignorance.

Yes, the anesthesia drugs enter through the IV. But one of the primary tasks of an anesthesiologist or CRNA is to monitor the patient's airway while they are under. That is, to make sure they're still breathing. JFC.

so 1:1 a paid nurse stands there watching you breathe for your entire baby delivery, or colonosopy, or wisdom tooth extraction, or open chest surgery?

Or the screen starts beeping?

What’s amazing is that those 4 procedures you randomly typed out actually utilize 3 (or 4) different types of anesthesia.

And yes, exactly. The anesthesiologist stands there and stares at you, watching you breathe, or else a screen beeps. You have summarized anesthesiology. Might as well just not use one for your next surgery. Just let the “nurse” put the “medicine in the bag” and tell the surgeon you’re good to go.

Unless you think you don’t need the surgeon either? I mean how hard can it be, just cut you open, remove the gallbladder, and sew you up. Done.

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Anonymous wrote:So lots of people in Baltimore, including his family must have recognized his photo from the news, but nobody turned him in?

+1 random McDonald’s worker ids him but not one of his 30 cousins do?

They probably did not know where he was - he had cut all contact.

None of them watched the news and saw his face all over it? How did the McDs employee recognize him based on that but nobody who had actually met him before?

Given how he is acting post-arrest, my guess is that he was not acting totally normal in the McD's. Acting mentally "off" combined with the age, clothes, mask, eyebrows.....someone thought "hey, I wonder if it's that guy that's all over the news...." If he had been acting normally and playing wordle on his phone while he ate a Big Mac, I bet no one would have called him in.

This is my suspicion as well. He was masked, pulling it on and off to eat, and probably acting paranoid and erratic.

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He’s not just popular with Gen Z. r/Embroidery is loving on Luigi too.

I am surprised that so many people are surprised that Luigi studied the Unabomber. As a parent of recent grads and current college students, I can tell you that his writings and story are very popular. Like Luigi, his ideology was mixed to say the least. Anti-capitalist, anti-technology, very misogynistic, and obviously brilliant but mentally ill. There is a lot of discussion around his writings and while I wouldn’t say there is admiration for him in total, there is both admiration for some of his views and sympathy for his experiences as a somewhat troubled kid who was the subject of torturous psychological experimentation.

In any case, many students and young adults are definitely very interested in Ted Kaczynski. This is not unique to Luigi.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve come to the conclusion Gen Z is the most mentally unstable generation. Zero resilience and coping strategies outside of their therapists and pharmaceuticals

Agree. I think the best thing is a rude awakening.

Have the government go after them for anything and everything - pro-Hamas; any protests; online crazy posts that hinge on inciting violence. I’m all for it even as a Democrat.

We need better people.

You and the PP sound like dumb boomers. I’m a Gen-Xer and there have been plenty of mentally ill people in previous generations. And their coping strategies (alcohol, tranquilizers, and yes, violence) have also been questionable. To say this is the first generation coping by self-medicating is laughable. And What about previous school shooters? Also, I think you are getting wanting to incite violence confused with just apathy. And anger against a crappy system. I agree what this kid did was wrong and he needs to be held accountable. But when clutch your pearls at kids these days while not acknowledging the issues facing Gen Zers-you sound stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:In case you are one of those who are morally confused:

Good guy: Daniel Penny
Bad Guy: Luigi Mangione

+1

There are lots of seriously twisted and perverted people out there. So much justification over an assassination. There are people comparing this to what the founding fathers did for political change and text pretzel logic to reach those conclusions.

I think there's a LOT of righteous anger in this country towards the insurance industry. Righteous.

Sure, some people try to game the system. Those individuals pale in comparison to how the insurance industry is gaming the system.

If you can't understand these simple facts, neither I nor anyone else can help you.

So far as the vast majority of people are concerned, the murder of a corrupt, crooked member of this perverted insurance scam industry was a *shrug* event.

You must work in the insurance industry if you can't appreciate the frustration and anger the average America feels.

I don’t work for the insurance industry and I have had claims denied by insurance companies. I understand there is a lot of frustration, but frustration does not make murder acceptable. I bet you yourself feel frustration about many things. I bet you feel frustrations over things like politics, but you’re not going to go out and assassinate a politician, a president or a CEO. Just because you’re frustrated does not mean murder is acceptable.

If you’re advocating for people assassinating people they’re frustrated with well then I can’t help you understand how wrong it is.

What Luigi did wasn’t heroic. In fact, he was a coward. He shot the man in the back. He didn’t even have the righteous indignation or guts to say something to his face.

I am telling you that people are frustrated and angry. Where did I state I am advocating for murder?

Please read what I stated again.

The industry needs to get overhauled with closer regulation. Sure, they shouldn't be required to cover weight loss medication for cosmetic reasons. Sure, they shouldn't be required to cover every politicized and popular medical procedure that is not medically necessary. But denying and delaying medically critical covered procedures is immoral, unethical, and inexcusable. BC/BS trying to limit anesthesia in the middle of a complicated surgery is BEYOND reasonable denial. They were going for it. BC/BS was really going for it.

Discussions of the proposed BCBS policy have been insane. Anesthesiologists' lobbying firm deserves a huge bonus.

Obviously they weren't going to wake people up in the middle of the surgery. The idea was clearly to limit billing and reimbursement based on how long the procedure should have taken. Kind of like a mechanic billing you for labor hours based on the book times. If they opened you up and found another problem, then that could and would be added to the claim.

Yes, sometimes one case will take a little bit longer than another case, and you'll get paid the same for both, but that's pretty normal. This is basically how it works for other doctors.

This is a weird thing to complain about when people generally want to know how much a procedure will cost before going in.

+1

A big insurer backed off its plan to pay less for anesthesia. That’s bad.
https://www.vox.com/policy/390031/anthem-blue-cross-blue-shield-anesthesia-limits-insurance

Many pages ago, a poster asked why health care costs are so much higher than other countries. Anesthesiologists are just one of many reasons, but it's a big one. As an example, the most expensive part of a colonoscopy is the anesthesia, not the gastroenterologist. And that's for a procedure where the gastroenterologist themselves could administer and monitor the anesthesia, but they don't want to piss off the anesthesiologists that they need for the more complicated cases. So the anesthesiologists typically come in for every case, resulting in much higher costs. Colonoscopies are great deals for anesthesiologists.

You are partially right. While the GI dr or colorectal surgeon can write for the drugs, they cannot give it and monitor/manage the patient’s airway under general anesthesia while they are doing their procedure. They are 100% focused on their scope, the findings/taking biopsies , and going in/out without perforating your bowel. But a RN (doesn’t need to even be a CRNA) can be certified in conscious sedation and give that and monitor the patient. That is how these scopes are done acutely at bedside in the ICUs here. This is also how they are done routinely in other counties- no one is getting general anesthesia for scopes in other counties

Airway?

It's through the IV bag already set up. gawd .

It's amazing how arrogant someone can be despite total ignorance.

Yes, the anesthesia drugs enter through the IV. But one of the primary tasks of an anesthesiologist or CRNA is to monitor the patient's airway while they are under. That is, to make sure they're still breathing. JFC.

so 1:1 a paid nurse stands there watching you breathe for your entire baby delivery, or colonosopy, or wisdom tooth extraction, or open chest surgery?

Or the screen starts beeping?

What’s amazing is that those 4 procedures you randomly typed out actually utilize 3 (or 4) different types of anesthesia.

And yes, exactly. The anesthesiologist stands there and stares at you, watching you breathe, or else a screen beeps. You have summarized anesthesiology. Might as well just not use one for your next surgery. Just let the “nurse” put the “medicine in the bag” and tell the surgeon you’re good to go.

Unless you think you don’t need the surgeon either? I mean how hard can it be, just cut you open, remove the gallbladder, and sew you up. Done.

Cool, I’ll ask my anesthesiologist friends tomorrow at lunch.

We’re all well aware it’s on the list of overpaid/ bette rights sr gigs: oral surgeon, cosmetic derm, specialist radiology, anesthesiologist

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve come to the conclusion Gen Z is the most mentally unstable generation. Zero resilience and coping strategies outside of their therapists and pharmaceuticals

Agree. I think the best thing is a rude awakening.

Have the government go after them for anything and everything - pro-Hamas; any protests; online crazy posts that hinge on inciting violence. I’m all for it even as a Democrat.

We need better people.

You are a Democrat and you think the government should go after anyone engaging in “any protests?” I’m sorry, but huh? And if that’s the case, wouldn’t the government have to go after Trump and lots of his followers for posting things that “hinge on inciting violence”?

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Anonymous wrote:He’s not just popular with Gen Z. r/Embroidery is loving on Luigi too.

I am surprised that so many people are surprised that Luigi studied the Unabomber. As a parent of recent grads and current college students, I can tell you that his writings and story are very popular. Like Luigi, his ideology was mixed to say the least. Anti-capitalist, anti-technology, very misogynistic, and obviously brilliant but mentally ill. There is a lot of discussion around his writings and while I wouldn’t say there is admiration for him in total, there is both admiration for some of his views and sympathy for his experiences as a somewhat troubled kid who was the subject of torturous psychological experimentation.

In any case, many students and young adults are definitely very interested in Ted Kaczynski. This is not unique to Luigi.

Sorry, what was the “torturous psychological experiment” Luigi was apparently undergoing?

You mean go to 5-6 years of college, graduate, work fulltime and live away from your parents and structured schooling?