Protests on college campuses

[Anonymous]

The “hunger strikers” in Princeton — I cannot in good conscience use the term without scare quotes — are now doing their hunger striking in shifts for health reasons.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/princeton-university-students-end-anti-081421803.html

A satirist could not make this up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The “hunger strikers” in Princeton — I cannot in good conscience use the term without scare quotes — are now doing their hunger striking in shifts for health reasons.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/princeton-university-students-end-anti-081421803.html

A satirist could not make this up.

Don't worry, they will eventually get to the no hot food strike and they we will know they mean business.

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Anonymous wrote:I miss Obama era progressives, who understood how to deal with terrorists. By droning them into little splatters.

Remember when Obama ordered a drone hit on American Anwar al Awlaki? He was the son of a PhD Fulbright scholar. He went to GWU, like a lot of the pro-Hamas protestors. He died in a splat next to his 16 year old son, who was also American. And then his branch of al Qaeda atrophied and no one thinks about them anymore. It's hard to even remember that stuff. I suspect that some of these campus Hamas losers will go the same way. And inshallah they will meet the same fate, if they do.

+1. I feel like I am going insane watching people try to justify letting Hamas (and other terrorist organizations) recruit on our college campuses and convert our young students to their radical Islamic worldview.

Pretty horrifying to celebrate the killing of a child, no matter who's son he was. You are a ghoul. I also don't celebrate government killing of Americans through drone strikes.

I'm the pp that wrote about how the left used to drone terrorists all the time, blasting terrorist a$$ into next week. I'm not the one expressing shock at how college students are now terrorist sympathizers.

It's good that you think I'm a ghoul. Remember that most of GenX and above are all about killing terrorists. If they don't want their teenage kids killed, they shouldn't launch attacks. It's that simple. Terrorists use murder and violence to try to defeat their enemies. You're okay with Hamas doing it because you think it's a righteous cause to murder families to punish Israel. We aren't required to be pacifists. Hamas hates us. We need to crush them now while they are weak. I think Israel is being far too cautious and protective of Palestinians. They should rain fire in the skies until there is nothing, but peace.

OK, so you support genocide. Thanks for clarifying.

You call it genocide, I call it justice.

DP

Killing babies in NICU units constitutes justice? For whom?

Hamas deliberately set up its operational HQ in the basement of a hospital because they know that Israel would blink, that they would not want to bomb the hospital. And they did issue warnings for several days that they were going to bomb the hospital so people would leave.

Hamas does this stuff on purpose because they want to exploit our sense of what's right and just. And this is who Palestinians voted in to office. They choose to be represented by people who expose their NICU babies to danger by using them as shields.

What's fascinating is that it is Hamas who violated the Geneva Convention protocols, not Israel. Militaries are expressly prohibited from using civilians as shields. But once they do, its within bounds to attack them and the civilians are collateral damage.

This is not genocide. Turnabout is fairplay, even if it's dirty business. War is hell, it's kind of bizarre to me that college protestors don't expect that war creates casualties. Most likely we are headed to war in the Middle East, possibly the South China Sea and/or Europe. These young people are the people who will fight it, and they are going to find out that the rule of war is that you kill or be killed.

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So when challenged to rebut one by one these so-called “vile”, “anti-semitic” “lies”, all the propaganda-skewing extremists could muster was a feeble round of name calling. Literally. That’s it. Name calling. Embarrassing.

Again, hardly surprising. Nutters, word salad, and more, but zero substantive response. It’s been the same noise for months, apparently. The defenders of Israel have nothing.

I don’t engage with people who believe in adrenochrome harvesting and the like. Sorry. I don’t engage with adults who believe in the tooth fairy either.

tl/dr: Nothing. You have nothing.

Please note that, Jeff. Repeated histrionic accusations, but zip, zero, zilch when it comes to backing it up or identifying anything that was written that is untrue or that a reasonable person would characterize as vile or anti-semitic.

All sizzle, no steak.

You are so crazy it’s almost fascinating.

Again, just name calling. Between that and frothing at the mouth in support of genocide, sounds like a busy day.

Do you just sit here endlessly refreshing? It’s bizarre how fast you respond to every single poster.

Also, a pro-tip: the description of you as utterly insane, one of the adrenochrome nutters, isn’t “name calling.” It’s spot-on accurate. It’s not name-calling when it’s 100% true.

But, you might as well entertain us since you are here and hitting refresh like a frantic rat attacking a pellet. Tell us about Pizzagate. Did you find the Jewish child traffickers in the basement? How do the Protocols of the Elders of Zion fit in? I want to see what your fevered racist imagination will come up with next.

Your obsession with others is frankly disturbing - the kind of disturbing that typically results in an involuntary psychiatric hold. Initially, it was just frothy, spittle-laced lashing out with your nutters and word salad attacks. But now, the level of desperation has entered cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs territory.

Repeatedly assuming you’re responding to one poster critical of Israel’s policies and actions, repeatedly attributing random things to other posters that I’ve yet to see referenced here by anyone other than angry, unhinged defenders of genocidal Israel - these things say a lot more about you and those like you than they say about those you’re lashing out against in defense of genocide.

Sit with that.

I know you feel righteous in telling people what they really think. And I know that you cannot distinguish between Jewish people and the State of Israel. These are all pathological shortcomings. I also know you’re completely incapable of backing up a single accusation you make.

But adrenochrome? Pizzagate? Protocols of the Elders of Zion? Who even mentioned any of that?

Bizarre-o … truly. Nevertheless, here’s hoping today is a better day for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How is it "unsafe" in America for jewish students today? Talk about being thin skinned.

I encourage you to think about what it was like to be brown in America in the years after 2001, or even more damningly, Black in the south as the net tightened in the Jim Crow South. Or hell, to be black today.

Jewish people have it great in America. There is some nonsense being spouted by brainwashed college students (let's call this "rabble-rousing" anti-semitism since the river-to-the-sea'ers have no idea what they're actually saying). But really, "actionable" anti-semitism is a non-entity in 2024 in America.

Sorry the antisemitism isn’t more actionable as you put it for you to think it’s serious. The number of antisemitic incidents both on Jewish students and other Jews has risen dramatically.

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Anonymous wrote:I miss Obama era progressives, who understood how to deal with terrorists. By droning them into little splatters.

Remember when Obama ordered a drone hit on American Anwar al Awlaki? He was the son of a PhD Fulbright scholar. He went to GWU, like a lot of the pro-Hamas protestors. He died in a splat next to his 16 year old son, who was also American. And then his branch of al Qaeda atrophied and no one thinks about them anymore. It's hard to even remember that stuff. I suspect that some of these campus Hamas losers will go the same way. And inshallah they will meet the same fate, if they do.

+1. I feel like I am going insane watching people try to justify letting Hamas (and other terrorist organizations) recruit on our college campuses and convert our young students to their radical Islamic worldview.

Pretty horrifying to celebrate the killing of a child, no matter who's son he was. You are a ghoul. I also don't celebrate government killing of Americans through drone strikes.

I'm the pp that wrote about how the left used to drone terrorists all the time, blasting terrorist a$$ into next week. I'm not the one expressing shock at how college students are now terrorist sympathizers.

It's good that you think I'm a ghoul. Remember that most of GenX and above are all about killing terrorists. If they don't want their teenage kids killed, they shouldn't launch attacks. It's that simple. Terrorists use murder and violence to try to defeat their enemies. You're okay with Hamas doing it because you think it's a righteous cause to murder families to punish Israel. We aren't required to be pacifists. Hamas hates us. We need to crush them now while they are weak. I think Israel is being far too cautious and protective of Palestinians. They should rain fire in the skies until there is nothing, but peace.

OK, so you support genocide. Thanks for clarifying.

You call it genocide, I call it justice.

DP

Killing babies in NICU units constitutes justice? For whom?

Hamas deliberately set up its operational HQ in the basement of a hospital because they know that Israel would blink, that they would not want to bomb the hospital. And they did issue warnings for several days that they were going to bomb the hospital so people would leave.

Hamas does this stuff on purpose because they want to exploit our sense of what's right and just. And this is who Palestinians voted in to office. They choose to be represented by people who expose their NICU babies to danger by using them as shields.

What's fascinating is that it is Hamas who violated the Geneva Convention protocols, not Israel. Militaries are expressly prohibited from using civilians as shields. But once they do, its within bounds to attack them and the civilians are collateral damage.

This is not genocide. Turnabout is fairplay, even if it's dirty business. War is hell, it's kind of bizarre to me that college protestors don't expect that war creates casualties. Most likely we are headed to war in the Middle East, possibly the South China Sea and/or Europe. These young people are the people who will fight it, and they are going to find out that the rule of war is that you kill or be killed.

DP

That response demonstrates that there is no mercy in the pro-Israel perspective, including for innocent non-combatants like newborn infants. Given that, it seems really odd that pro-Israel posters expect others to rush to their defense in the face of what they claim are their own existential threats. If they think others are trying to annihilate them, by their own logic, so what?

I don’t agree with that logic, but what am I missing that you find those two conflicting views acceptable? “We can kill all of them because we argue that combatants cannot be separated from non-combatants, but they’re trying to annihilate us!”

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Anonymous wrote:How is it "unsafe" in America for jewish students today? Talk about being thin skinned.

I encourage you to think about what it was like to be brown in America in the years after 2001, or even more damningly, Black in the south as the net tightened in the Jim Crow South. Or hell, to be black today.

Jewish people have it great in America. There is some nonsense being spouted by brainwashed college students (let's call this "rabble-rousing" anti-semitism since the river-to-the-sea'ers have no idea what they're actually saying). But really, "actionable" anti-semitism is a non-entity in 2024 in America.

Sorry the antisemitism isn’t more actionable as you put it for you to think it’s serious. The number of antisemitic incidents both on Jewish students and other Jews has risen dramatically.

Actually the number of antisemitic and Islamophobic incidents have both risen and are just about the same in terms of volume. We should care about both. Not just one.

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Anonymous wrote:I miss Obama era progressives, who understood how to deal with terrorists. By droning them into little splatters.

Remember when Obama ordered a drone hit on American Anwar al Awlaki? He was the son of a PhD Fulbright scholar. He went to GWU, like a lot of the pro-Hamas protestors. He died in a splat next to his 16 year old son, who was also American. And then his branch of al Qaeda atrophied and no one thinks about them anymore. It's hard to even remember that stuff. I suspect that some of these campus Hamas losers will go the same way. And inshallah they will meet the same fate, if they do.

+1. I feel like I am going insane watching people try to justify letting Hamas (and other terrorist organizations) recruit on our college campuses and convert our young students to their radical Islamic worldview.

Pretty horrifying to celebrate the killing of a child, no matter who's son he was. You are a ghoul. I also don't celebrate government killing of Americans through drone strikes.

I'm the pp that wrote about how the left used to drone terrorists all the time, blasting terrorist a$$ into next week. I'm not the one expressing shock at how college students are now terrorist sympathizers.

It's good that you think I'm a ghoul. Remember that most of GenX and above are all about killing terrorists. If they don't want their teenage kids killed, they shouldn't launch attacks. It's that simple. Terrorists use murder and violence to try to defeat their enemies. You're okay with Hamas doing it because you think it's a righteous cause to murder families to punish Israel. We aren't required to be pacifists. Hamas hates us. We need to crush them now while they are weak. I think Israel is being far too cautious and protective of Palestinians. They should rain fire in the skies until there is nothing, but peace.

OK, so you support genocide. Thanks for clarifying.

You call it genocide, I call it justice.

DP

Killing babies in NICU units constitutes justice? For whom?

Hamas deliberately set up its operational HQ in the basement of a hospital because they know that Israel would blink, that they would not want to bomb the hospital. And they did issue warnings for several days that they were going to bomb the hospital so people would leave.

Hamas does this stuff on purpose because they want to exploit our sense of what's right and just. And this is who Palestinians voted in to office. They choose to be represented by people who expose their NICU babies to danger by using them as shields.

What's fascinating is that it is Hamas who violated the Geneva Convention protocols, not Israel. Militaries are expressly prohibited from using civilians as shields. But once they do, its within bounds to attack them and the civilians are collateral damage.

This is not genocide. Turnabout is fairplay, even if it's dirty business. War is hell, it's kind of bizarre to me that college protestors don't expect that war creates casualties. Most likely we are headed to war in the Middle East, possibly the South China Sea and/or Europe. These young people are the people who will fight it, and they are going to find out that the rule of war is that you kill or be killed.

DP

That response demonstrates that there is no mercy in the pro-Israel perspective, including for innocent non-combatants like newborn infants. Given that, it seems really odd that pro-Israel posters expect others to rush to their defense in the face of what they claim are their own existential threats. If they think others are trying to annihilate them, by their own logic, so what?

I don’t agree with that logic, but what am I missing that you find those two conflicting views acceptable? “We can kill all of them because we argue that combatants cannot be separated from non-combatants, but they’re trying to annihilate us!”

Palestinians elected their government and are protecting Hamas. That is the difference. If a terrorist attack on Americans happened in let’s say France the French government would work to find and oust the terrorist group and cooperate with the US. The Palestinians seem to welcome their actions. There was no Palestinian government apology or offer to work with Israel to find Hamas and bring justice to the situation. That’s how they ended up in war.

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Anonymous wrote:I miss Obama era progressives, who understood how to deal with terrorists. By droning them into little splatters.

Remember when Obama ordered a drone hit on American Anwar al Awlaki? He was the son of a PhD Fulbright scholar. He went to GWU, like a lot of the pro-Hamas protestors. He died in a splat next to his 16 year old son, who was also American. And then his branch of al Qaeda atrophied and no one thinks about them anymore. It's hard to even remember that stuff. I suspect that some of these campus Hamas losers will go the same way. And inshallah they will meet the same fate, if they do.

Israeli using drone strikes to kill Hamas targets in the wake of 10/7 completely understandable. Killing 35k, more than 10k, blowing of limbs of thousands more = not ok.

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Anonymous wrote:How is it "unsafe" in America for jewish students today? Talk about being thin skinned.

I encourage you to think about what it was like to be brown in America in the years after 2001, or even more damningly, Black in the south as the net tightened in the Jim Crow South. Or hell, to be black today.

Jewish people have it great in America. There is some nonsense being spouted by brainwashed college students (let's call this "rabble-rousing" anti-semitism since the river-to-the-sea'ers have no idea what they're actually saying). But really, "actionable" anti-semitism is a non-entity in 2024 in America.

Sorry the antisemitism isn’t more actionable as you put it for you to think it’s serious. The number of antisemitic incidents both on Jewish students and other Jews has risen dramatically.

Actually the number of antisemitic and Islamophobic incidents have both risen and are just about the same in terms of volume. We should care about both. Not just one.

While both should be addressed Islamophobic incidents rose by 216% and antisemitic incidents rose 388%. The antisemitic incidents are almost double Islamophobic incidents since 10/7. https://www.voanews.com/amp/antisemitism-islamophobia-surge-in-2023-watchdogs-say/7407451.html

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Anonymous wrote:I miss Obama era progressives, who understood how to deal with terrorists. By droning them into little splatters.

Remember when Obama ordered a drone hit on American Anwar al Awlaki? He was the son of a PhD Fulbright scholar. He went to GWU, like a lot of the pro-Hamas protestors. He died in a splat next to his 16 year old son, who was also American. And then his branch of al Qaeda atrophied and no one thinks about them anymore. It's hard to even remember that stuff. I suspect that some of these campus Hamas losers will go the same way. And inshallah they will meet the same fate, if they do.

+1. I feel like I am going insane watching people try to justify letting Hamas (and other terrorist organizations) recruit on our college campuses and convert our young students to their radical Islamic worldview.

Pretty horrifying to celebrate the killing of a child, no matter who's son he was. You are a ghoul. I also don't celebrate government killing of Americans through drone strikes.

I'm the pp that wrote about how the left used to drone terrorists all the time, blasting terrorist a$$ into next week. I'm not the one expressing shock at how college students are now terrorist sympathizers.

It's good that you think I'm a ghoul. Remember that most of GenX and above are all about killing terrorists. If they don't want their teenage kids killed, they shouldn't launch attacks. It's that simple. Terrorists use murder and violence to try to defeat their enemies. You're okay with Hamas doing it because you think it's a righteous cause to murder families to punish Israel. We aren't required to be pacifists. Hamas hates us. We need to crush them now while they are weak. I think Israel is being far too cautious and protective of Palestinians. They should rain fire in the skies until there is nothing, but peace.

OK, so you support genocide. Thanks for clarifying.

You call it genocide, I call it justice.

DP

Killing babies in NICU units constitutes justice? For whom?

Hamas deliberately set up its operational HQ in the basement of a hospital because they know that Israel would blink, that they would not want to bomb the hospital. And they did issue warnings for several days that they were going to bomb the hospital so people would leave.

Hamas does this stuff on purpose because they want to exploit our sense of what's right and just. And this is who Palestinians voted in to office. They choose to be represented by people who expose their NICU babies to danger by using them as shields.

What's fascinating is that it is Hamas who violated the Geneva Convention protocols, not Israel. Militaries are expressly prohibited from using civilians as shields. But once they do, its within bounds to attack them and the civilians are collateral damage.

This is not genocide. Turnabout is fairplay, even if it's dirty business. War is hell, it's kind of bizarre to me that college protestors don't expect that war creates casualties. Most likely we are headed to war in the Middle East, possibly the South China Sea and/or Europe. These young people are the people who will fight it, and they are going to find out that the rule of war is that you kill or be killed.

DP

That response demonstrates that there is no mercy in the pro-Israel perspective, including for innocent non-combatants like newborn infants. Given that, it seems really odd that pro-Israel posters expect others to rush to their defense in the face of what they claim are their own existential threats. If they think others are trying to annihilate them, by their own logic, so what?

I don’t agree with that logic, but what am I missing that you find those two conflicting views acceptable? “We can kill all of them because we argue that combatants cannot be separated from non-combatants, but they’re trying to annihilate us!”

Palestinians elected their government and are protecting Hamas. That is the difference. If a terrorist attack on Americans happened in let’s say France the French government would work to find and oust the terrorist group and cooperate with the US. The Palestinians seem to welcome their actions. There was no Palestinian government apology or offer to work with Israel to find Hamas and bring justice to the situation. That’s how they ended up in war.

It’s been said that over 60% of Gaza’s population wasn’t even born yet (or of the age to vote) the last time an election was held. It’s also been said, credibly, that the ones who were alive and of voting age at the time of the last election were faced with what amounted to a non-democratic process that was endorsed by both Israel and the U.S.

I mean, these people are refugees. I don’t think there is enough official government apparatus that could even extend an apology or offer to help, right?

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Anonymous wrote:How is it "unsafe" in America for jewish students today? Talk about being thin skinned.

I encourage you to think about what it was like to be brown in America in the years after 2001, or even more damningly, Black in the south as the net tightened in the Jim Crow South. Or hell, to be black today.

Jewish people have it great in America. There is some nonsense being spouted by brainwashed college students (let's call this "rabble-rousing" anti-semitism since the river-to-the-sea'ers have no idea what they're actually saying). But really, "actionable" anti-semitism is a non-entity in 2024 in America.

"Jewish people have it great" he says during a dramatic spike in global antisemitism...

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Anonymous wrote:I miss Obama era progressives, who understood how to deal with terrorists. By droning them into little splatters.

Remember when Obama ordered a drone hit on American Anwar al Awlaki? He was the son of a PhD Fulbright scholar. He went to GWU, like a lot of the pro-Hamas protestors. He died in a splat next to his 16 year old son, who was also American. And then his branch of al Qaeda atrophied and no one thinks about them anymore. It's hard to even remember that stuff. I suspect that some of these campus Hamas losers will go the same way. And inshallah they will meet the same fate, if they do.

+1. I feel like I am going insane watching people try to justify letting Hamas (and other terrorist organizations) recruit on our college campuses and convert our young students to their radical Islamic worldview.

Pretty horrifying to celebrate the killing of a child, no matter who's son he was. You are a ghoul. I also don't celebrate government killing of Americans through drone strikes.

I'm the pp that wrote about how the left used to drone terrorists all the time, blasting terrorist a$$ into next week. I'm not the one expressing shock at how college students are now terrorist sympathizers.

It's good that you think I'm a ghoul. Remember that most of GenX and above are all about killing terrorists. If they don't want their teenage kids killed, they shouldn't launch attacks. It's that simple. Terrorists use murder and violence to try to defeat their enemies. You're okay with Hamas doing it because you think it's a righteous cause to murder families to punish Israel. We aren't required to be pacifists. Hamas hates us. We need to crush them now while they are weak. I think Israel is being far too cautious and protective of Palestinians. They should rain fire in the skies until there is nothing, but peace.

OK, so you support genocide. Thanks for clarifying.

You call it genocide, I call it justice.

DP

Killing babies in NICU units constitutes justice? For whom?

Hamas deliberately set up its operational HQ in the basement of a hospital because they know that Israel would blink, that they would not want to bomb the hospital. And they did issue warnings for several days that they were going to bomb the hospital so people would leave.

Hamas does this stuff on purpose because they want to exploit our sense of what's right and just. And this is who Palestinians voted in to office. They choose to be represented by people who expose their NICU babies to danger by using them as shields.

What's fascinating is that it is Hamas who violated the Geneva Convention protocols, not Israel. Militaries are expressly prohibited from using civilians as shields. But once they do, its within bounds to attack them and the civilians are collateral damage.

This is not genocide. Turnabout is fairplay, even if it's dirty business. War is hell, it's kind of bizarre to me that college protestors don't expect that war creates casualties. Most likely we are headed to war in the Middle East, possibly the South China Sea and/or Europe. These young people are the people who will fight it, and they are going to find out that the rule of war is that you kill or be killed.

DP

That response demonstrates that there is no mercy in the pro-Israel perspective, including for innocent non-combatants like newborn infants. Given that, it seems really odd that pro-Israel posters expect others to rush to their defense in the face of what they claim are their own existential threats. If they think others are trying to annihilate them, by their own logic, so what?

I don’t agree with that logic, but what am I missing that you find those two conflicting views acceptable? “We can kill all of them because we argue that combatants cannot be separated from non-combatants, but they’re trying to annihilate us!”

Palestinians elected their government and are protecting Hamas. That is the difference. If a terrorist attack on Americans happened in let’s say France the French government would work to find and oust the terrorist group and cooperate with the US. The Palestinians seem to welcome their actions. There was no Palestinian government apology or offer to work with Israel to find Hamas and bring justice to the situation. That’s how they ended up in war.

It’s been said that over 60% of Gaza’s population wasn’t even born yet (or of the age to vote) the last time an election was held. It’s also been said, credibly, that the ones who were alive and of voting age at the time of the last election were faced with what amounted to a non-democratic process that was endorsed by both Israel and the U.S.

I mean, these people are refugees. I don’t think there is enough official government apparatus that could even extend an apology or offer to help, right?

This brings a new question. For how long and for how many generations can a group of people be considered refugees? Do you consider every Palestinian a refugee? If 60% of the population was not alive during the election these people , even if underage are not really refugees especially if they are seeking to become a legitimate country and are multiple generations after the so called Nakba.

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Anonymous wrote:I miss Obama era progressives, who understood how to deal with terrorists. By droning them into little splatters.

Remember when Obama ordered a drone hit on American Anwar al Awlaki? He was the son of a PhD Fulbright scholar. He went to GWU, like a lot of the pro-Hamas protestors. He died in a splat next to his 16 year old son, who was also American. And then his branch of al Qaeda atrophied and no one thinks about them anymore. It's hard to even remember that stuff. I suspect that some of these campus Hamas losers will go the same way. And inshallah they will meet the same fate, if they do.

+1. I feel like I am going insane watching people try to justify letting Hamas (and other terrorist organizations) recruit on our college campuses and convert our young students to their radical Islamic worldview.

Pretty horrifying to celebrate the killing of a child, no matter who's son he was. You are a ghoul. I also don't celebrate government killing of Americans through drone strikes.

I'm the pp that wrote about how the left used to drone terrorists all the time, blasting terrorist a$$ into next week. I'm not the one expressing shock at how college students are now terrorist sympathizers.

It's good that you think I'm a ghoul. Remember that most of GenX and above are all about killing terrorists. If they don't want their teenage kids killed, they shouldn't launch attacks. It's that simple. Terrorists use murder and violence to try to defeat their enemies. You're okay with Hamas doing it because you think it's a righteous cause to murder families to punish Israel. We aren't required to be pacifists. Hamas hates us. We need to crush them now while they are weak. I think Israel is being far too cautious and protective of Palestinians. They should rain fire in the skies until there is nothing, but peace.

OK, so you support genocide. Thanks for clarifying.

You call it genocide, I call it justice.

DP

Killing babies in NICU units constitutes justice? For whom?

Hamas deliberately set up its operational HQ in the basement of a hospital because they know that Israel would blink, that they would not want to bomb the hospital. And they did issue warnings for several days that they were going to bomb the hospital so people would leave.

Hamas does this stuff on purpose because they want to exploit our sense of what's right and just. And this is who Palestinians voted in to office. They choose to be represented by people who expose their NICU babies to danger by using them as shields.

What's fascinating is that it is Hamas who violated the Geneva Convention protocols, not Israel. Militaries are expressly prohibited from using civilians as shields. But once they do, its within bounds to attack them and the civilians are collateral damage.

This is not genocide. Turnabout is fairplay, even if it's dirty business. War is hell, it's kind of bizarre to me that college protestors don't expect that war creates casualties. Most likely we are headed to war in the Middle East, possibly the South China Sea and/or Europe. These young people are the people who will fight it, and they are going to find out that the rule of war is that you kill or be killed.

DP

That response demonstrates that there is no mercy in the pro-Israel perspective, including for innocent non-combatants like newborn infants. Given that, it seems really odd that pro-Israel posters expect others to rush to their defense in the face of what they claim are their own existential threats. If they think others are trying to annihilate them, by their own logic, so what?

I don’t agree with that logic, but what am I missing that you find those two conflicting views acceptable? “We can kill all of them because we argue that combatants cannot be separated from non-combatants, but they’re trying to annihilate us!”

Oh. That's easy. You can easily separate combatants and noncombatants. Well, it's not easy but Israel is doing a bang up job. It's complicated by the fact that many Palestinians refuse to leave. Think New Orleans right before Hurricane Katrina. You can urge people, you can demand, but you really can't force people en mass.

I wouldn't take the maximalist read of what I wrote and apply it to all pro Israel people. I've literally gone overseas and participated in anti terror operations. Meaning, I'm completely at ease with killing terrorists. Lots of job satisfaction-- you know you make a difference in the world. Because those people have already forfeited their right to life. I'm also in favor of harsh criminal justice, limiting capital punishment appeals, and canings for lesser felonies. In other words, I'm just really comfortable with violence that protects the peace.

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Anonymous wrote:I miss Obama era progressives, who understood how to deal with terrorists. By droning them into little splatters.

Remember when Obama ordered a drone hit on American Anwar al Awlaki? He was the son of a PhD Fulbright scholar. He went to GWU, like a lot of the pro-Hamas protestors. He died in a splat next to his 16 year old son, who was also American. And then his branch of al Qaeda atrophied and no one thinks about them anymore. It's hard to even remember that stuff. I suspect that some of these campus Hamas losers will go the same way. And inshallah they will meet the same fate, if they do.

+1. I feel like I am going insane watching people try to justify letting Hamas (and other terrorist organizations) recruit on our college campuses and convert our young students to their radical Islamic worldview.

Pretty horrifying to celebrate the killing of a child, no matter who's son he was. You are a ghoul. I also don't celebrate government killing of Americans through drone strikes.

I'm the pp that wrote about how the left used to drone terrorists all the time, blasting terrorist a$$ into next week. I'm not the one expressing shock at how college students are now terrorist sympathizers.

It's good that you think I'm a ghoul. Remember that most of GenX and above are all about killing terrorists. If they don't want their teenage kids killed, they shouldn't launch attacks. It's that simple. Terrorists use murder and violence to try to defeat their enemies. You're okay with Hamas doing it because you think it's a righteous cause to murder families to punish Israel. We aren't required to be pacifists. Hamas hates us. We need to crush them now while they are weak. I think Israel is being far too cautious and protective of Palestinians. They should rain fire in the skies until there is nothing, but peace.

OK, so you support genocide. Thanks for clarifying.

You call it genocide, I call it justice.

DP

Killing babies in NICU units constitutes justice? For whom?

Hamas deliberately set up its operational HQ in the basement of a hospital because they know that Israel would blink, that they would not want to bomb the hospital. And they did issue warnings for several days that they were going to bomb the hospital so people would leave.

Hamas does this stuff on purpose because they want to exploit our sense of what's right and just. And this is who Palestinians voted in to office. They choose to be represented by people who expose their NICU babies to danger by using them as shields.

What's fascinating is that it is Hamas who violated the Geneva Convention protocols, not Israel. Militaries are expressly prohibited from using civilians as shields. But once they do, its within bounds to attack them and the civilians are collateral damage.

This is not genocide. Turnabout is fairplay, even if it's dirty business. War is hell, it's kind of bizarre to me that college protestors don't expect that war creates casualties. Most likely we are headed to war in the Middle East, possibly the South China Sea and/or Europe. These young people are the people who will fight it, and they are going to find out that the rule of war is that you kill or be killed.

DP

That response demonstrates that there is no mercy in the pro-Israel perspective, including for innocent non-combatants like newborn infants. Given that, it seems really odd that pro-Israel posters expect others to rush to their defense in the face of what they claim are their own existential threats. If they think others are trying to annihilate them, by their own logic, so what?

I don’t agree with that logic, but what am I missing that you find those two conflicting views acceptable? “We can kill all of them because we argue that combatants cannot be separated from non-combatants, but they’re trying to annihilate us!”

Palestinians elected their government and are protecting Hamas. That is the difference. If a terrorist attack on Americans happened in let’s say France the French government would work to find and oust the terrorist group and cooperate with the US. The Palestinians seem to welcome their actions. There was no Palestinian government apology or offer to work with Israel to find Hamas and bring justice to the situation. That’s how they ended up in war.

It’s been said that over 60% of Gaza’s population wasn’t even born yet (or of the age to vote) the last time an election was held. It’s also been said, credibly, that the ones who were alive and of voting age at the time of the last election were faced with what amounted to a non-democratic process that was endorsed by both Israel and the U.S.

I mean, these people are refugees. I don’t think there is enough official government apparatus that could even extend an apology or offer to help, right?

This brings a new question. For how long and for how many generations can a group of people be considered refugees? Do you consider every Palestinian a refugee? If 60% of the population was not alive during the election these people , even if underage are not really refugees especially if they are seeking to become a legitimate country and are multiple generations after the so called Nakba.

The refugee status persists because Israel is unwilling to extend full citizenship rights to these indigenous people and they are unwilling to emigrate from their homeland.

That’s why a resolution of some kind is eventually going to be necessary, either a truly democratic one-state solution or a two-state solution where the Palestinian state is afforded more independence than Israel has ever been willing to recognize in past talks.

There are only four paths, the latter two obviously grim and unacceptable to reasonable minds: one-state, two-state, Palestinian genocide, or Israeli genocide.