Mueller Report is being delivered to Barr today

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Anonymous wrote:The Trump supporters think they control the narrative, they want everyone to completely ignore the 34 indictments of Trump campaign staff, his attorney, other close Trump associates, et cetera. Mueller's team turned up a huge amount of gross corruption and criminal behavior. There is absolutely no way the Trump camp can pretend that this was nothing. There is also no way that they can pretend it was some kind of political hit job, either. Dems didn't do this, Manafort, Cohen and the others did it to themselves. Nobody on the Dem side forced them to commit the crimes they did.

Let's get something straight........

Of those "34 indictments" that liberals and the left wing media continue to scream about, only 6 - yes, SIX - of them were associated with Trump's campaign. And, of those 6 - how many were charged with collusion or conspiracy? ZERO. Yep, nada. Most of the charges were around things they did BEFORE serving on the campaign OR process crimes like lying to investigators - something that would have never happened if this investigation had not happened to begin with. The rest of those charged were mostly Russians that had NOTHING to do with Trump's campaign.

Bottom line - a special counsel was not needed to prosecute any crimes here.

It was needed because Trump fired the FBI director while the investigation was already underway.

That is such crap. If you think an investigation ends because of a change in directors, you are clueless. Really. That's NOT how the FBI works.

Then why did Trump ask the director to go easy on Flynn? And why did Trump tell the Russian ambassador that the pressure of the investigation had been lifted after he fired Comey?

I will refer you to Spicer's statement regarding Trump's comments....

"The President has always emphasized the importance of making deals with Russia as it relates to Syria, Ukraine, defeating ISIS and other key issues for the benefit and safety of the American people," Spicer said in a statement to CNN. "By grandstanding and politicizing the investigation into Russia's actions, James Comey created unnecessary pressure on our ability to engage and negotiate with Russia."
He added, "The investigation would have always continued, and obviously, the termination of Comey would not have ended it. Once again, the real story is that our national security has been undermined by the leaking of private and highly classified conversations."

And, asking him to go easy on Flynn? Because he knew Flynn did nothing wrong.

Once again, investigations do NOT end with the change of a director. My spouse is ex-FBI and worked under 3 different directors. NO investigation was ever ended when one of them left.

Oh, jeez. You're going to have to do better than Sean Spicer if you're just going to requote something. He is not a credible source for truthful information. And if Trump knew Flynn did nothing wrong, why did he fire him? And why did Flynn plead guilty?

Investigations can end with the change of a director. All it takes is to switch in a Trump-friendly director who will terminate it.

[Anonymous]

Just announced on NPR that Barr and Tosenstein will release a summarybtoday

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Trump supporters think they control the narrative, they want everyone to completely ignore the 34 indictments of Trump campaign staff, his attorney, other close Trump associates, et cetera. Mueller's team turned up a huge amount of gross corruption and criminal behavior. There is absolutely no way the Trump camp can pretend that this was nothing. There is also no way that they can pretend it was some kind of political hit job, either. Dems didn't do this, Manafort, Cohen and the others did it to themselves. Nobody on the Dem side forced them to commit the crimes they did.

Let's get something straight........

Of those "34 indictments" that liberals and the left wing media continue to scream about, only 6 - yes, SIX - of them were associated with Trump's campaign. And, of those 6 - how many were charged with collusion or conspiracy? ZERO. Yep, nada. Most of the charges were around things they did BEFORE serving on the campaign OR process crimes like lying to investigators - something that would have never happened if this investigation had not happened to begin with. The rest of those charged were mostly Russians that had NOTHING to do with Trump's campaign.

Bottom line - a special counsel was not needed to prosecute any crimes here.

It was needed because Trump fired the FBI director while the investigation was already underway.

That is such crap. If you think an investigation ends because of a change in directors, you are clueless. Really. That's NOT how the FBI works.

Then why did Trump ask the director to go easy on Flynn? And why did Trump tell the Russian ambassador that the pressure of the investigation had been lifted after he fired Comey?

I will refer you to Spicer's statement regarding Trump's comments....

"The President has always emphasized the importance of making deals with Russia as it relates to Syria, Ukraine, defeating ISIS and other key issues for the benefit and safety of the American people," Spicer said in a statement to CNN. "By grandstanding and politicizing the investigation into Russia's actions, James Comey created unnecessary pressure on our ability to engage and negotiate with Russia."
He added, "The investigation would have always continued, and obviously, the termination of Comey would not have ended it. Once again, the real story is that our national security has been undermined by the leaking of private and highly classified conversations."

And, asking him to go easy on Flynn? Because he knew Flynn did nothing wrong.

Once again, investigations do NOT end with the change of a director. My spouse is ex-FBI and worked under 3 different directors. NO investigation was ever ended when one of them left.

Oh, jeez. You're going to have to do better than Sean Spicer if you're just going to requote something. He is not a credible source for truthful information. And if Trump knew Flynn did nothing wrong, why did he fire him? And why did Flynn plead guilty?

Investigations can end with the change of a director. All it takes is to switch in a Trump-friendly director who will terminate it.

You really ARE clueless. Totally.

[Anonymous]

Tosenstein= Rosenstein

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Trump supporters think they control the narrative, they want everyone to completely ignore the 34 indictments of Trump campaign staff, his attorney, other close Trump associates, et cetera. Mueller's team turned up a huge amount of gross corruption and criminal behavior. There is absolutely no way the Trump camp can pretend that this was nothing. There is also no way that they can pretend it was some kind of political hit job, either. Dems didn't do this, Manafort, Cohen and the others did it to themselves. Nobody on the Dem side forced them to commit the crimes they did.

Let's get something straight........

Of those "34 indictments" that liberals and the left wing media continue to scream about, only 6 - yes, SIX - of them were associated with Trump's campaign. And, of those 6 - how many were charged with collusion or conspiracy? ZERO. Yep, nada. Most of the charges were around things they did BEFORE serving on the campaign OR process crimes like lying to investigators - something that would have never happened if this investigation had not happened to begin with. The rest of those charged were mostly Russians that had NOTHING to do with Trump's campaign.

Bottom line - a special counsel was not needed to prosecute any crimes here.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Trump supporters think they control the narrative, they want everyone to completely ignore the 34 indictments of Trump campaign staff, his attorney, other close Trump associates, et cetera. Mueller's team turned up a huge amount of gross corruption and criminal behavior. There is absolutely no way the Trump camp can pretend that this was nothing. There is also no way that they can pretend it was some kind of political hit job, either. Dems didn't do this, Manafort, Cohen and the others did it to themselves. Nobody on the Dem side forced them to commit the crimes they did.

Let's get something straight........

Of those "34 indictments" that liberals and the left wing media continue to scream about, only 6 - yes, SIX - of them were associated with Trump's campaign. And, of those 6 - how many were charged with collusion or conspiracy? ZERO. Yep, nada. Most of the charges were around things they did BEFORE serving on the campaign OR process crimes like lying to investigators - something that would have never happened if this investigation had not happened to begin with. The rest of those charged were mostly Russians that had NOTHING to do with Trump's campaign.

Bottom line - a special counsel was not needed to prosecute any crimes here.

It was needed because Trump fired the FBI director while the investigation was already underway.

That is such crap. If you think an investigation ends because of a change in directors, you are clueless. Really. That's NOT how the FBI works.

Then why did Trump ask the director to go easy on Flynn? And why did Trump tell the Russian ambassador that the pressure of the investigation had been lifted after he fired Comey?

I will refer you to Spicer's statement regarding Trump's comments....

"The President has always emphasized the importance of making deals with Russia as it relates to Syria, Ukraine, defeating ISIS and other key issues for the benefit and safety of the American people," Spicer said in a statement to CNN. "By grandstanding and politicizing the investigation into Russia's actions, James Comey created unnecessary pressure on our ability to engage and negotiate with Russia."
He added, "The investigation would have always continued, and obviously, the termination of Comey would not have ended it. Once again, the real story is that our national security has been undermined by the leaking of private and highly classified conversations."

And, asking him to go easy on Flynn? Because he knew Flynn did nothing wrong.

Once again, investigations do NOT end with the change of a director. My spouse is ex-FBI and worked under 3 different directors. NO investigation was ever ended when one of them left.

Oh, jeez. You're going to have to do better than Sean Spicer if you're just going to requote something. He is not a credible source for truthful information. And if Trump knew Flynn did nothing wrong, why did he fire him? And why did Flynn plead guilty?

Investigations can end with the change of a director. All it takes is to switch in a Trump-friendly director who will terminate it.

You really ARE clueless. Totally.

Uh huh. How about you provide a citation for your claim, other than hearsay. Or Sean Spicer.

[Anonymous]

For anyone denying that Mueller's report dispels any evidence of collusion or conspiracy, or believing that the media hasn't played a huge role in placing guilt on Trump throughout this investigation, you must read this.... The author is NOT a Trump fan, BTW.
He outlines how CNN, WaPo, NYTimes, and members of Congress (Schiff and others) totally f'ed up in the narratives they advanced with scant evidence.

There will be people protesting: the Mueller report doesn’t prove anything! What about the 37 indictments? The convictions? The Trump tower revelations? The lies! The meeting with Don, Jr.? The financial matters! There’s an ongoing grand jury investigation, and possible sealed indictments, and the House will still investigate, and…

Stop. Just stop. Any journalist who goes there is making it worse.

For years, every pundit and Democratic pol in Washington hyped every new Russia headline like the Watergate break-in. Now, even Nancy Pelosi has said impeachment is out, unless something “so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan” against Trump is uncovered it would be worth their political trouble to prosecute.

The biggest thing this affair has uncovered so far is Donald Trump paying off a porn star. That’s a hell of a long way from what this business was supposedly about at the beginning, and shame on any reporter who tries to pretend this isn’t so.

The story hyped from the start was espionage: a secret relationship between the Trump campaign and Russian spooks who’d helped him win the election.

The betrayal narrative was not reported as metaphor. It was not “Trump likes the Russians so much, he might as well be a spy for them.” It was literal spying, treason, and election-fixing – crimes so severe, former NSA employee John Schindler told reporters, Trump “will die in jail.”

There was never real gray area here. Either Trump is a compromised foreign agent, or he isn’t. If he isn’t, news outlets once again swallowed a massive disinformation campaign, only this error is many orders of magnitude more stupid than any in the recent past, WMD included. Honest reporters like ABC’s Terry Moran understand: Mueller coming back empty-handed on collusion means a “reckoning for the media.”

Of course, there won’t be such a reckoning. (There never is). But there should be. We broke every written and unwritten rule in pursuit of this story, starting with the prohibition on reporting things we can’t confirm.

And then,....

There were other curious lines, including the bit about Russians having “moles” in the DNC, plus some linguistic details that made me wonder at the nationality of the report author.

Still, who knew? It could be true. But even the most cursory review showed the report had issues and would need a lot of confirming. This made it more amazing that the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, Adam Schiff, held hearings on March 20, 2017 that blithely read out Steele report details as if they were fact. From Schiff’s opening statement:

According to Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence officer who is reportedly held in high regard by U.S. Intelligence, Russian sources tell him that Page has also had a secret meeting with Igor Sechin (SEH-CHIN), CEO of Russian gas giant Rosneft… Page is offered brokerage fees by Sechin on a deal involving a 19 percent share of the company.

I was stunned watching this. It’s generally understood that members of congress, like reporters, make an effort to vet at least their prepared remarks before making them public.

But here was Schiff, telling the world Trump aide Carter Page had been offered huge fees on a 19% stake in Rosneft – a company with a $63 billion market capitalization – in a secret meeting with a Russian oligarch who was also said to be “a KGB agent and close friend of Putin’s.”

(Schiff meant “FSB agent.” The inability of #Russiagaters to remember Russia is not the Soviet Union became increasingly maddening over time. Donna Brazile still hasn’t deleted her tweet about how “The Communists are now dictating the terms of the debate.” )

Schiff’s speech raised questions. Do we no longer have to worry about getting accusations right if the subject is tied to Russiagate? What if Page hadn’t done any of these things? To date, he hasn’t been charged with anything. Shouldn’t a member of congress worry about this?

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/russiagate-is-wmd-times-a-million

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For anyone denying that Mueller's report dispels any evidence of collusion or conspiracy, or believing that the media hasn't played a huge role in placing guilt on Trump throughout this investigation, you must read this.... The author is NOT a Trump fan, BTW.
He outlines how CNN, WaPo, NYTimes, and members of Congress (Schiff and others) totally f'ed up in the narratives they advanced with scant evidence.

There will be people protesting: the Mueller report doesn’t prove anything! What about the 37 indictments? The convictions? The Trump tower revelations? The lies! The meeting with Don, Jr.? The financial matters! There’s an ongoing grand jury investigation, and possible sealed indictments, and the House will still investigate, and…

Stop. Just stop. Any journalist who goes there is making it worse.

For years, every pundit and Democratic pol in Washington hyped every new Russia headline like the Watergate break-in. Now, even Nancy Pelosi has said impeachment is out, unless something “so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan” against Trump is uncovered it would be worth their political trouble to prosecute.

The biggest thing this affair has uncovered so far is Donald Trump paying off a porn star. That’s a hell of a long way from what this business was supposedly about at the beginning, and shame on any reporter who tries to pretend this isn’t so.

The story hyped from the start was espionage: a secret relationship between the Trump campaign and Russian spooks who’d helped him win the election.

The betrayal narrative was not reported as metaphor. It was not “Trump likes the Russians so much, he might as well be a spy for them.” It was literal spying, treason, and election-fixing – crimes so severe, former NSA employee John Schindler told reporters, Trump “will die in jail.”

There was never real gray area here. Either Trump is a compromised foreign agent, or he isn’t. If he isn’t, news outlets once again swallowed a massive disinformation campaign, only this error is many orders of magnitude more stupid than any in the recent past, WMD included. Honest reporters like ABC’s Terry Moran understand: Mueller coming back empty-handed on collusion means a “reckoning for the media.”

Of course, there won’t be such a reckoning. (There never is). But there should be. We broke every written and unwritten rule in pursuit of this story, starting with the prohibition on reporting things we can’t confirm.

And then,....

There were other curious lines, including the bit about Russians having “moles” in the DNC, plus some linguistic details that made me wonder at the nationality of the report author.

Still, who knew? It could be true. But even the most cursory review showed the report had issues and would need a lot of confirming. This made it more amazing that the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, Adam Schiff, held hearings on March 20, 2017 that blithely read out Steele report details as if they were fact. From Schiff’s opening statement:

According to Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence officer who is reportedly held in high regard by U.S. Intelligence, Russian sources tell him that Page has also had a secret meeting with Igor Sechin (SEH-CHIN), CEO of Russian gas giant Rosneft… Page is offered brokerage fees by Sechin on a deal involving a 19 percent share of the company.

I was stunned watching this. It’s generally understood that members of congress, like reporters, make an effort to vet at least their prepared remarks before making them public.

But here was Schiff, telling the world Trump aide Carter Page had been offered huge fees on a 19% stake in Rosneft – a company with a $63 billion market capitalization – in a secret meeting with a Russian oligarch who was also said to be “a KGB agent and close friend of Putin’s.”

(Schiff meant “FSB agent.” The inability of #Russiagaters to remember Russia is not the Soviet Union became increasingly maddening over time. Donna Brazile still hasn’t deleted her tweet about how “The Communists are now dictating the terms of the debate.” )

Schiff’s speech raised questions. Do we no longer have to worry about getting accusations right if the subject is tied to Russiagate? What if Page hadn’t done any of these things? To date, he hasn’t been charged with anything. Shouldn’t a member of congress worry about this?

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/russiagate-is-wmd-times-a-million

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The clearest evidence we have is of the idiocy and ineptitude of Russiagate’s champions.

[Anonymous]

It's a vast left wing conspiracy.

[Anonymous]

Summary to be released at 4.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Summary to be released at 4.

No, that's Barr's summary.

We need the actual Mueller report released.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Summary to be released at 4.

No, that's Barr's summary.

We need the actual Mueller report released.

Didn’t I say *summary*?! Why are you being pedantic? Yes, we all want to see the original report! But it won’t happen until a true patriot leaks it.

[Anonymous]

Fox is having the summary read right now.

[Anonymous]

Barr’s Summary: It’s all good! Move on.


What are your predictions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fox is having the summary read right now.

It’s the Trump Summary. Not a real one.