New when will furloughed feds go back to work guesses

[Anonymous]

How many users of ACA subsidies are rich retirees versus people that work but don’t have coverage? Anyway the Democrats are asking for 1 more year, and in that time they should straighten this out.

Earlier in the shutdown, back when I got yelled at for being selfish on here for worrying about my paycheck, I read that 51 percent of ACA subsidy recipients are early retirees - I don’t think that figure distinguished between rich and not rich early retirees, but there were examples of people who had paid off houses and healthy retirement account balances but low “income” who were receiving substantial subsidies. And then the shutdown made sense to me, because if this really were about subsidies for the poor, people would not be quite so agitated. But early retirees tend to vote and tend to complain, so there you go.

[Anonymous]

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/07/us/politics/shutdown-democrats-schumer-thune.html

And now it looks like Feds really were just fodder for the election, because a one year extension of ACA subsidies was on the table a few weeks ago and Dems said no.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Senate will vote later today? If they agree to extend the ACA for one year, the government will be reopened likely on Wednesday?

They aren't going to accept the proposal.

Why not? What exactly is the problem with funding health care?

WSJ podcast “The Journal” featured one of these people who was getting their healthcare subsidized. It was a 64 yr old guy in California who retired early from a career as a consultant. We used to be paying $31k of his health insurance as taxpayers while he paid $7k. When he saw he has to pay for himself, he decided he will just travel internationally on travel insurance until he turns 65.

So yeah. I don’t want to subsidize rich early retirees. And Obamacare didn’t cover them either. This was a SHORT TERM Covid thing.

You should check out the latest Senate hearing on the ACA, subsidies, and enhanced subsidies. They heard testimony from a married mother of two who was concerned that the $460 she paid a month for 4 family members was going to lose the enhanced subsidy which would increase her monthly costs for 4 to $700. In addition to that enhanced subsidy of $240 a month, she also receives $800 a month in regular subsidies. She and her husband work at a small gym as personal trainers and she is worried that to cover this additional $240 a month, her husband will need to find a job with benefits and she will need to cut back on her children's sport and social activities. She considers herself middle class.

I'm all for the ACA and subsidies, but these folks come across like leeches.

How is someone paying almost $500 a month for insurance a leech?? It's the insurance companies who are the leeches!

Because the cost is a lot higher than what they are paying. We pay a lot more than that for family coverage through an employer.

We don't have universal free health care. I don't want to subsidize other UMC people, personally, until we are all getting subsidized.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Senate will vote later today? If they agree to extend the ACA for one year, the government will be reopened likely on Wednesday?

They aren't going to accept the proposal.

Why not? What exactly is the problem with funding health care?

WSJ podcast “The Journal” featured one of these people who was getting their healthcare subsidized. It was a 64 yr old guy in California who retired early from a career as a consultant. We used to be paying $31k of his health insurance as taxpayers while he paid $7k. When he saw he has to pay for himself, he decided he will just travel internationally on travel insurance until he turns 65.

So yeah. I don’t want to subsidize rich early retirees. And Obamacare didn’t cover them either. This was a SHORT TERM Covid thing.

You should check out the latest Senate hearing on the ACA, subsidies, and enhanced subsidies. They heard testimony from a married mother of two who was concerned that the $460 she paid a month for 4 family members was going to lose the enhanced subsidy which would increase her monthly costs for 4 to $700. In addition to that enhanced subsidy of $240 a month, she also receives $800 a month in regular subsidies. She and her husband work at a small gym as personal trainers and she is worried that to cover this additional $240 a month, her husband will need to find a job with benefits and she will need to cut back on her children's sport and social activities. She considers herself middle class.

I'm all for the ACA and subsidies, but these folks come across like leeches.

How is someone paying almost $500 a month for insurance a leech?? It's the insurance companies who are the leeches!

Because the cost is a lot higher than what they are paying. We pay a lot more than that for family coverage through an employer.

We don't have universal free health care. I don't want to subsidize other UMC people, personally, until we are all getting subsidized.

This is tough because I feel the same way, our employer plans are now hitting her "unsubsidized" cost to us...but the more working age, relatively healthy people you drive out of the market, the more premiums tend to increase across the board. It's a collective problem. I'm in favor of single payer, but politically that's not on the table and damage control is the best we can hope for.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Senate will vote later today? If they agree to extend the ACA for one year, the government will be reopened likely on Wednesday?

They aren't going to accept the proposal.

Why not? What exactly is the problem with funding health care?

WSJ podcast “The Journal” featured one of these people who was getting their healthcare subsidized. It was a 64 yr old guy in California who retired early from a career as a consultant. We used to be paying $31k of his health insurance as taxpayers while he paid $7k. When he saw he has to pay for himself, he decided he will just travel internationally on travel insurance until he turns 65.

So yeah. I don’t want to subsidize rich early retirees. And Obamacare didn’t cover them either. This was a SHORT TERM Covid thing.

You should check out the latest Senate hearing on the ACA, subsidies, and enhanced subsidies. They heard testimony from a married mother of two who was concerned that the $460 she paid a month for 4 family members was going to lose the enhanced subsidy which would increase her monthly costs for 4 to $700. In addition to that enhanced subsidy of $240 a month, she also receives $800 a month in regular subsidies. She and her husband work at a small gym as personal trainers and she is worried that to cover this additional $240 a month, her husband will need to find a job with benefits and she will need to cut back on her children's sport and social activities. She considers herself middle class.

I'm all for the ACA and subsidies, but these folks come across like leeches.

Except for the fact that every other advanced country similar to the US has universal healthcare pa id for by income taxes.

+1. Healthcare should be free for everyone. What is the point of society??

+2. Trump sent $40 billion in our tax dollars in a failed attempt to prop up the Argentine currency last month without Congressional approval. Yet Republicans are nickeling and diming Americans struggling to afford health insurance premiums so they can lead healthy and productive lives.

[Anonymous]

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How many users of ACA subsidies are rich retirees versus people that work but don’t have coverage? Anyway the Democrats are asking for 1 more year, and in that time they should straighten this out.

Earlier in the shutdown, back when I got yelled at for being selfish on here for worrying about my paycheck, I read that 51 percent of ACA subsidy recipients are early retirees - I don’t think that figure distinguished between rich and not rich early retirees, but there were examples of people who had paid off houses and healthy retirement account balances but low “income” who were receiving substantial subsidies. And then the shutdown made sense to me, because if this really were about subsidies for the poor, people would not be quite so agitated. But early retirees tend to vote and tend to complain, so there you go.

In America, early retirees often just mean you got laid off in 50s and can’t find another job. That happened to all of my family.

It should be income and wealth means tested, that’s it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/07/us/politics/shutdown-democrats-schumer-thune.html

And now it looks like Feds really were just fodder for the election, because a one year extension of ACA subsidies was on the table a few weeks ago and Dems said no.

Not sure what you mean by “on the table” because the republicans haven’t agreed to negotiate about anything so far. And the Senate Rs resoundingly rejected the one year extension offer yesterday, plus House is staying out of session yet again next week.

The Republicans are treating this like a hostage situation vs a negotiation.

[Anonymous]

Woke up really salty and agitated about missing another paycheck. We are okay for now thanks to a credit union loan, but a woman in my neighborhood who works for TSA is collecting food, diapers, and gas cards for her colleagues.

And now the proposal from Schumer is a one year extension of the ACA subsidies, which was on the table (proposed by Thune) on October 17 -- but the Democrats rejected it then, and now Thune is rejecting it.

Here is the cite: https://taxnews.ey.com/news/2025-2099-what-to-expect-in-washington-october-17 ("Punchbowl News reported Leader Thune as saying he has offered Democrats a two-vote deal: one on opening the government, the other on a separate one-year extension of enhanced premium tax credits.")

These people are playing with people's lives and DO NOT CARE.

Open the goddamned government, I don't care how.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Woke up really salty and agitated about missing another paycheck. We are okay for now thanks to a credit union loan, but a woman in my neighborhood who works for TSA is collecting food, diapers, and gas cards for her colleagues.

And now the proposal from Schumer is a one year extension of the ACA subsidies, which was on the table (proposed by Thune) on October 17 -- but the Democrats rejected it then, and now Thune is rejecting it.

Here is the cite: https://taxnews.ey.com/news/2025-2099-what-to-expect-in-washington-october-17 ("Punchbowl News reported Leader Thune as saying he has offered Democrats a two-vote deal: one on opening the government, the other on a separate one-year extension of enhanced premium tax credits.")

These people are playing with people's lives and DO NOT CARE.

Open the goddamned government, I don't care how.

"Punchbowl News"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Senate will vote later today? If they agree to extend the ACA for one year, the government will be reopened likely on Wednesday?

They aren't going to accept the proposal.

Why not? What exactly is the problem with funding health care?

WSJ podcast “The Journal” featured one of these people who was getting their healthcare subsidized. It was a 64 yr old guy in California who retired early from a career as a consultant. We used to be paying $31k of his health insurance as taxpayers while he paid $7k. When he saw he has to pay for himself, he decided he will just travel internationally on travel insurance until he turns 65.

So yeah. I don’t want to subsidize rich early retirees. And Obamacare didn’t cover them either. This was a SHORT TERM Covid thing.

How many users of ACA subsidies are rich retirees versus people that work but don’t have coverage? Anyway the Democrats are asking for 1 more year, and in that time they should straighten this out.

This fight isn't about "ACA subsidies." It's about the covid-era expansion of subsidies that incuded wealthy early retirees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Senate will vote later today? If they agree to extend the ACA for one year, the government will be reopened likely on Wednesday?

They aren't going to accept the proposal.

Why not? What exactly is the problem with funding health care?

WSJ podcast “The Journal” featured one of these people who was getting their healthcare subsidized. It was a 64 yr old guy in California who retired early from a career as a consultant. We used to be paying $31k of his health insurance as taxpayers while he paid $7k. When he saw he has to pay for himself, he decided he will just travel internationally on travel insurance until he turns 65.

So yeah. I don’t want to subsidize rich early retirees. And Obamacare didn’t cover them either. This was a SHORT TERM Covid thing.

You should check out the latest Senate hearing on the ACA, subsidies, and enhanced subsidies. They heard testimony from a married mother of two who was concerned that the $460 she paid a month for 4 family members was going to lose the enhanced subsidy which would increase her monthly costs for 4 to $700. In addition to that enhanced subsidy of $240 a month, she also receives $800 a month in regular subsidies. She and her husband work at a small gym as personal trainers and she is worried that to cover this additional $240 a month, her husband will need to find a job with benefits and she will need to cut back on her children's sport and social activities. She considers herself middle class.

I'm all for the ACA and subsidies, but these folks come across like leeches.

Except for the fact that every other advanced country similar to the US has universal healthcare pa id for by income taxes.

So you admit this is all just a slow-burn attempt to grow subsidies until we have single payor?

[Anonymous]

I heard a rumor it will be next week

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Senate will vote later today? If they agree to extend the ACA for one year, the government will be reopened likely on Wednesday?

They aren't going to accept the proposal.

Why not? What exactly is the problem with funding health care?

WSJ podcast “The Journal” featured one of these people who was getting their healthcare subsidized. It was a 64 yr old guy in California who retired early from a career as a consultant. We used to be paying $31k of his health insurance as taxpayers while he paid $7k. When he saw he has to pay for himself, he decided he will just travel internationally on travel insurance until he turns 65.

So yeah. I don’t want to subsidize rich early retirees. And Obamacare didn’t cover them either. This was a SHORT TERM Covid thing.

You should check out the latest Senate hearing on the ACA, subsidies, and enhanced subsidies. They heard testimony from a married mother of two who was concerned that the $460 she paid a month for 4 family members was going to lose the enhanced subsidy which would increase her monthly costs for 4 to $700. In addition to that enhanced subsidy of $240 a month, she also receives $800 a month in regular subsidies. She and her husband work at a small gym as personal trainers and she is worried that to cover this additional $240 a month, her husband will need to find a job with benefits and she will need to cut back on her children's sport and social activities. She considers herself middle class.

I'm all for the ACA and subsidies, but these folks come across like leeches.

How is someone paying almost $500 a month for insurance a leech?? It's the insurance companies who are the leeches!

Health insurance is very low profit margin (0.8% in 2024) and in MANY cases completely nonprofit including insurers like Kaiser Permanente, CareFirst BCBS, and Highmark BCBS. The idea that insurance profits are the cause of our health cost woes is a lie.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Woke up really salty and agitated about missing another paycheck. We are okay for now thanks to a credit union loan, but a woman in my neighborhood who works for TSA is collecting food, diapers, and gas cards for her colleagues.

And now the proposal from Schumer is a one year extension of the ACA subsidies, which was on the table (proposed by Thune) on October 17 -- but the Democrats rejected it then, and now Thune is rejecting it.

Here is the cite: https://taxnews.ey.com/news/2025-2099-what-to-expect-in-washington-october-17 ("Punchbowl News reported Leader Thune as saying he has offered Democrats a two-vote deal: one on opening the government, the other on a separate one-year extension of enhanced premium tax credits.")

These people are playing with people's lives and DO NOT CARE.

Open the goddamned government, I don't care how.

"Punchbowl News"?

Punchbowl it a reputable source.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Woke up really salty and agitated about missing another paycheck. We are okay for now thanks to a credit union loan, but a woman in my neighborhood who works for TSA is collecting food, diapers, and gas cards for her colleagues.

And now the proposal from Schumer is a one year extension of the ACA subsidies, which was on the table (proposed by Thune) on October 17 -- but the Democrats rejected it then, and now Thune is rejecting it.

Here is the cite: https://taxnews.ey.com/news/2025-2099-what-to-expect-in-washington-october-17 ("Punchbowl News reported Leader Thune as saying he has offered Democrats a two-vote deal: one on opening the government, the other on a separate one-year extension of enhanced premium tax credits.")

These people are playing with people's lives and DO NOT CARE.

Open the goddamned government, I don't care how.

Your post is misleading. Thune proposed to enact the extension only AFTER the government was re-opened. The dems understandably don’t trust the GOP on this and have been pretty clear about that. Schumer’s proposal tied them together, not as separate sequential actions.