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GP no longer cares if they are in the IAC or not. The IAC is essentially dead anyway. Hockey is down to 3/4. Football is down to 3/4, basketball is completely split. It's a dead league.

I agree. The IAC is definitely fading; I expect the league to be gone in 5 years or look dramatically different.

Saint Stephen's dropped out of the conference for football entirely and rumors going around they might drop out of the league entirely. Where they go, maybe the MAC? Episcopal might leave entirely and focus solely on competing with its VISAA counterparts, since the Maroons currently compete in two leagues.

Perhaps GP becomes a full-fledged member of the WCAC, but the larger GP community thinks their academics are too holy to be associated with the likes of DeMatha, SJC, or a Bishop McNamara etc, etc. Prep has outgrown the IAC, and they know this. And their recent emphasis on recruiting aggressively to fill their dorms with athletes further illustrates this.

Landon, Bullis and STA will likely stick together, where they end up, who the hell knows!

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Anonymous wrote:Plus the star rating process says right there on the website you can pay for a rating??!! Nothing smells about that at all.

In all fairness, it's paying for an evaluation - not a rating. Still a money grab, but not paying for a rating.

It’s a scam that prays on wealthy lax familes. No one who pays for a rating gets less than 3 stars

You don't get any stars when you pay. You get an evaluation. They are different things.

The IL evaluations/ratings are a bit confusing.

According to IL, the evaluations are a number rating given for a particular event or video, a snapshot in time. And the star ratings are for a body of work. So I think of it like an evaluation is a test score and a star rating is the final grade for the semester. What I don't understand is how IL is giving star ratings without ever evaluating the player. You mean to tell me they saw a player enough times to give a star rating but that player never stood out enough to warrant an evaluation.

it's not a scam. of course people don't always agree with the rankings and stars (or lack thereof) that their own son or other players get, but the system is genuine and not pay for play. To get a ranking, the player submits film of one game (or two halves from different games) and pays in the vicinity of $200. The fee is to cover the costs and time of the evaluator who watches the film. The end product is a number in the 70's or 80's (or possibly the 90's if your name is Powell or Kavanaugh) and a written evaluation of your strengths as a player. That number is publicly reported on Inside Lacrosse. as a Dad of two boys in travel lacrosse, my own humble opinion of my sons and their teammates rankings are pretty accurate. The stars are a separate system, and I honestly do not know who awards them, but my guess is Inside Lacrosse, and I believe they interview college coaches as part of that process. You do not apply or pay anything - you simply get the stars based on how you play on your club team, and at showcases. The only way to rig the system slightly would be to attend certain showcases that weigh more heavily into the rankings. if you get three stars, you are likely to end up on a top to mid level D1 roster, and if you get four or five, you are likely to be a hot commodity that practically all D1 teams will try to recruit, depending on your grades.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone should listen to the IL recruiting podcast with York coach. He basically said recruiting process for D1 is heavily focused on the top showcases and top clubs. If you are not involved with those two things then getting recruited at D1 is challenging. The recruiting process is broken because getting into the top showcases is partially about who you know. Getting on to the top club teams is geography. Finding that “special” player not in those circles takes a lot of effort and coaches don’t have the time.

All of this talk sounds like FOMO. The truth is the system works because top coaches can spot talent. It is not 100% but neither is the NFL. Look at the local players from 2019-2024 who were highly recruited. They were also the top HS players. Coaches did not miss any player i can think of.

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I just took a peek at the UVA roster and they show 45 players, of which 9 (i.e., 20%) are from public school. the coaches will find the best players no matter where they come from.

Can you identify the 9? AI only says 3. Also, last year's roster had around 55 players so I don't think you have accurate information. There is an absolute bias for privates over publics and the reasons are many and systemic (super hot catchword).

Not the OP but you can pull up the roster with the touch of a few buttons and count them yourself, they list the high school with each player. And there are actually 10.
No idea what last year having a bigger roster has to do with anything, but they didn't have 55 (again, you can count them yourself) and 17 were from publics. But again, don't understand your point about why last year is disqualifying.

Typical dcum dbag. Dude, not everyone knows a public school from the private. No need for the snark when someone asks a question.

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Anonymous wrote:Plus the star rating process says right there on the website you can pay for a rating??!! Nothing smells about that at all.

In all fairness, it's paying for an evaluation - not a rating. Still a money grab, but not paying for a rating.

It’s a scam that prays on wealthy lax familes. No one who pays for a rating gets less than 3 stars

You don't get any stars when you pay. You get an evaluation. They are different things.

The IL evaluations/ratings are a bit confusing.

According to IL, the evaluations are a number rating given for a particular event or video, a snapshot in time. And the star ratings are for a body of work. So I think of it like an evaluation is a test score and a star rating is the final grade for the semester. What I don't understand is how IL is giving star ratings without ever evaluating the player. You mean to tell me they saw a player enough times to give a star rating but that player never stood out enough to warrant an evaluation.

it's not a scam. of course people don't always agree with the rankings and stars (or lack thereof) that their own son or other players get, but the system is genuine and not pay for play. To get a ranking, the player submits film of one game (or two halves from different games) and pays in the vicinity of $200. The fee is to cover the costs and time of the evaluator who watches the film. The end product is a number in the 70's or 80's (or possibly the 90's if your name is Powell or Kavanaugh) and a written evaluation of your strengths as a player. That number is publicly reported on Inside Lacrosse. as a Dad of two boys in travel lacrosse, my own humble opinion of my sons and their teammates rankings are pretty accurate. The stars are a separate system, and I honestly do not know who awards them, but my guess is Inside Lacrosse, and I believe they interview college coaches as part of that process. You do not apply or pay anything - you simply get the stars based on how you play on your club team, and at showcases. The only way to rig the system slightly would be to attend certain showcases that weigh more heavily into the rankings. if you get three stars, you are likely to end up on a top to mid level D1 roster, and if you get four or five, you are likely to be a hot commodity that practically all D1 teams will try to recruit, depending on your grades.

Anyone can see the star system and top 100 is heavily, heavily slanted towards the NE academies and the current hot national programs like Mad Dog and Hilltop with their recruiting services. Slanted means a lot but not totally and your kid better get minutes at a good school as a sophomore.

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GP no longer cares if they are in the IAC or not. The IAC is essentially dead anyway. Hockey is down to 3/4. Football is down to 3/4, basketball is completely split. It's a dead league.

I agree. The IAC is definitely fading; I expect the league to be gone in 5 years or look dramatically different.

Saint Stephen's dropped out of the conference for football entirely and rumors going around they might drop out of the league entirely. Where they go, maybe the MAC? Episcopal might leave entirely and focus solely on competing with its VISAA counterparts, since the Maroons currently compete in two leagues.

Perhaps GP becomes a full-fledged member of the WCAC, but the larger GP community thinks their academics are too holy to be associated with the likes of DeMatha, SJC, or a Bishop McNamara etc, etc. Prep has outgrown the IAC, and they know this. And their recent emphasis on recruiting aggressively to fill their dorms with athletes further illustrates this.

Landon, Bullis and STA will likely stick together, where they end up, who the hell knows!

I think long term will end up with Prep to the WCAC and then the rest of the IAC (outside of Episcopal) combines with the MAC to form something like the girls ISL with A and AA divisions.

So lacrosse could have something like

AA - Landon, Bullis, STA, SSSAS, Potomac and whoever of SAES or St. James is better in a given year.

A - Sidwell, Maret, Flint Hill, Georgetown Day, and SAES/St. James

Or basketball would be something like:

AA - Sidwell, Bullis, SAES, Maret, Flint Hill
A - Landon, Potomac, STA, GDS, St. James, SSSAS

That would lead to a lot more competitive games across all sports probably. But there’s a lot of inertia to overcome so could be years before it happens

[Anonymous]

Money is on Prep going independent like Lawrenceville and Culver. No need to associate with DMV riff raft.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone should listen to the IL recruiting podcast with York coach. He basically said recruiting process for D1 is heavily focused on the top showcases and top clubs. If you are not involved with those two things then getting recruited at D1 is challenging. The recruiting process is broken because getting into the top showcases is partially about who you know. Getting on to the top club teams is geography. Finding that “special” player not in those circles takes a lot of effort and coaches don’t have the time.

All of this talk sounds like FOMO. The truth is the system works because top coaches can spot talent. It is not 100% but neither is the NFL. Look at the local players from 2019-2024 who were highly recruited. They were also the top HS players. Coaches did not miss any player i can think of.

+1
I just took a peek at the UVA roster and they show 45 players, of which 9 (i.e., 20%) are from public school. the coaches will find the best players no matter where they come from.

Can you identify the 9? AI only says 3. Also, last year's roster had around 55 players so I don't think you have accurate information. There is an absolute bias for privates over publics and the reasons are many and systemic (super hot catchword).

Not the OP but you can pull up the roster with the touch of a few buttons and count them yourself, they list the high school with each player. And there are actually 10.
No idea what last year having a bigger roster has to do with anything, but they didn't have 55 (again, you can count them yourself) and 17 were from publics. But again, don't understand your point about why last year is disqualifying.

Typical dcum dbag. Dude, not everyone knows a public school from the private. No need for the snark when someone asks a question.

Nah, stfu. You said somebody was wrong when in actuality you were. Your source and backup was AI. You wanted someone else to do your homework and prove themselves after all of that nonsense. Take the L and move on.

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Anonymous wrote:Plus the star rating process says right there on the website you can pay for a rating??!! Nothing smells about that at all.

In all fairness, it's paying for an evaluation - not a rating. Still a money grab, but not paying for a rating.

It’s a scam that prays on wealthy lax familes. No one who pays for a rating gets less than 3 stars

You don't get any stars when you pay. You get an evaluation. They are different things.

The IL evaluations/ratings are a bit confusing.

According to IL, the evaluations are a number rating given for a particular event or video, a snapshot in time. And the star ratings are for a body of work. So I think of it like an evaluation is a test score and a star rating is the final grade for the semester. What I don't understand is how IL is giving star ratings without ever evaluating the player. You mean to tell me they saw a player enough times to give a star rating but that player never stood out enough to warrant an evaluation.

it's not a scam. of course people don't always agree with the rankings and stars (or lack thereof) that their own son or other players get, but the system is genuine and not pay for play. To get a ranking, the player submits film of one game (or two halves from different games) and pays in the vicinity of $200. The fee is to cover the costs and time of the evaluator who watches the film. The end product is a number in the 70's or 80's (or possibly the 90's if your name is Powell or Kavanaugh) and a written evaluation of your strengths as a player. That number is publicly reported on Inside Lacrosse. as a Dad of two boys in travel lacrosse, my own humble opinion of my sons and their teammates rankings are pretty accurate. The stars are a separate system, and I honestly do not know who awards them, but my guess is Inside Lacrosse, and I believe they interview college coaches as part of that process. You do not apply or pay anything - you simply get the stars based on how you play on your club team, and at showcases. The only way to rig the system slightly would be to attend certain showcases that weigh more heavily into the rankings. if you get three stars, you are likely to end up on a top to mid level D1 roster, and if you get four or five, you are likely to be a hot commodity that practically all D1 teams will try to recruit, depending on your grades.

Anyone can see the star system and top 100 is heavily, heavily slanted towards the NE academies and the current hot national programs like Mad Dog and Hilltop with their recruiting services. Slanted means a lot but not totally and your kid better get minutes at a good school as a sophomore.

A big part of why they are slanted that way (and why college coaches recruit heavily from the NE boarding schools and national lax programs) is that those kids have already been through a vetting process to get where they are. It's very hard to make the top Mad Dog, Hilltop and WCS teams. Tons of those kids go to Culver and other elite boarding schools. While you can pay your way into many of the boarding schools, you can't pay your way into getting playing time for their lax teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Money is on Prep going independent like Lawrenceville and Culver. No need to associate with DMV riff raft.

This, yes

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Anonymous wrote:Money is on Prep going independent like Lawrenceville and Culver. No need to associate with DMV riff raft.

This, yes

Hate to bring up something so clearly in the distant past for some of you psychologically, but Prep sucked last year, as in 4 months ago. So much so that they canned their long tenured HC. So maybe see how things go for even a few games under the new regime before joining Lawrenceville and Culver?

[Anonymous]

DC Express 2027:
1 Navy (Bullis) Defense
1 St. Joseph's (Bullis) LSM
1 Holy Cross (GP) Midfield
 
Next Level 2027:
1 Michigan (Deerfield) Defense
1 Cornell (GC) Midfield
1 Dartmouth (Landon) LSM
1 Penn (Bullis) Midfield 
1 Cornell (Landon) Defense 
1 Brown (STA) Defense
1 Delaware (Landon) LSM
1 Brown (GP) Attack
1 Bucknell (STC) Goalie
1 Georgetown (Landon) Attack
1 Johns Hokpkins (GP) Midfield
 
Madlax 2027:
1 AF (SJC) Defense
1 Army (HP-TX) FOGO
1 Penn State (Yorktown) Attack
1 Princeton (GP) Midfield
1 Delaware (GC) Defense 
1 Villanova (SJC) LSM
1 Michigan (Deerfield) Midfield
1 Penn State (SJC) Attack/Midfield
1 Ohio State (Taft) Attack
1 Bucknell (STC) Defense
1 Bucknell (SJC) Defense
1 Providence (GZ) SSDM
1 Colgate (GZ) Midfield
 
VLC 2027:
 
IAC:
Bullis - Navy (D), Penn (M), St. Joseph's (LSM)
GP - Princeton (M), Brown (A), Johns Hopkins (Midfield), Navy (A), Holy Cross (M)
Landon - Dartmouth (LSM), Cornell (D), Delaware (LSM), Georgetown (A)
STA - Brown (D)
 
WCAC:
SJC - AF (D), Navy (M), MD (FOGO), Villanova (LSM), Penn State (A/M), Bucknell (D)
DM - AF (G)
GC - Cornell (M), Delaware (D)
GZ - Providence (M), Colgate (M)
 
MAC:

Public:
Yorktown - Penn State (A)

Others:
Deerfield - Michigan (D), Michigan (M)
Highland Park HS - Army (FOGO)
Taft - Ohio State (A)
St. Christophers - Bucknell (D), Bucknell (G)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Money is on Prep going independent like Lawrenceville and Culver. No need to associate with DMV riff raft.

This, yes

doubt Prep wants anything to do with the Culvers of the world. Culver has to play an independent schedule as the school is in the middle of nowhere.

Lawrenceville, which is central NJ (3 hours away with zero traffic) has PG's. Unless Prep is really going independent and considering addinga PG class, don't see how they would want any part of the big boys up north.

I agree with a previous poster, Mater Dei families are already looking at alternative schools. I believe last year Landon had 3 MD lax graduates enroll, which has never happened.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone should listen to the IL recruiting podcast with York coach. He basically said recruiting process for D1 is heavily focused on the top showcases and top clubs. If you are not involved with those two things then getting recruited at D1 is challenging. The recruiting process is broken because getting into the top showcases is partially about who you know. Getting on to the top club teams is geography. Finding that “special” player not in those circles takes a lot of effort and coaches don’t have the time.

All of this talk sounds like FOMO. The truth is the system works because top coaches can spot talent. It is not 100% but neither is the NFL. Look at the local players from 2019-2024 who were highly recruited. They were also the top HS players. Coaches did not miss any player i can think of.

+1
I just took a peek at the UVA roster and they show 45 players, of which 9 (i.e., 20%) are from public school. the coaches will find the best players no matter where they come from.

Can you identify the 9? AI only says 3. Also, last year's roster had around 55 players so I don't think you have accurate information. There is an absolute bias for privates over publics and the reasons are many and systemic (super hot catchword).

Not the OP but you can pull up the roster with the touch of a few buttons and count them yourself, they list the high school with each player. And there are actually 10.
No idea what last year having a bigger roster has to do with anything, but they didn't have 55 (again, you can count them yourself) and 17 were from publics. But again, don't understand your point about why last year is disqualifying.

Typical dcum dbag. Dude, not everyone knows a public school from the private. No need for the snark when someone asks a question.

Nah, stfu. You said somebody was wrong when in actuality you were. Your source and backup was AI. You wanted someone else to do your homework and prove themselves after all of that nonsense. Take the L and move on.

More dbaggery.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Money is on Prep going independent like Lawrenceville and Culver. No need to associate with DMV riff raft.

This, yes

doubt Prep wants anything to do with the Culvers of the world. Culver has to play an independent schedule as the school is in the middle of nowhere.

Lawrenceville, which is central NJ (3 hours away with zero traffic) has PG's. Unless Prep is really going independent and considering addinga PG class, don't see how they would want any part of the big boys up north.

I agree with a previous poster, Mater Dei families are already looking at alternative schools. I believe last year Landon had 3 MD lax graduates enroll, which has never happened.

A huge part of that was because Kubik went to Landon.

[Anonymous]

IAC is fraying. If one of their teams jumps ship for MAC or WCAC then maybe IAC will try to expand by picking up Heights.