NYT story: Trump administration could strike abortion almost immediately using Comstock law

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Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of abortions are elective.

Birth control has become more reliable.

The same people who ignore ^^^ are trying to tell you unborn babies are not human and unborn babies are not alive.

Please do not have an abortion if that is your choice. Everyone will respect your decision. Just stay out of this matter for other women. It does not concern you.

But it concerns you?

What any other woman decides is none of my or your business.

Elective abortion is choosing to kill an unborn child. There is no medical reason to kill a healthy unborn baby, and my tax dollars are used against my will to fund Planned Parenthood.

And you would have the state force a woman to use her body against her will.

The GOP gets sick pleasure out of forcing women to do things without their consent.

Citation needed. GOP is forcing women to have sex and become pregnant?

Are you only capable of making childish strawman arguments?

The GOP is forcing women to give birth against their will.

And clearly they get some kind of sick perverted pleasure out of it. Fcking masochists.

No, because the GOP can’t force women to become pregnant. The GOP can’t force men to ejaculate in women and father children.

Democrats are trying to convince people there is an alternative society occurring where political parties are forcing American citizens to have sex and forcing parents to donate organs to their children and dying as a result.

So it does seem that you are only capable of childish strawman arguments.

Sit down until you learn more about perspective taking, human reproduction, and just how complicated real life can be.

Homework:

Forced birthers seem so intellectually and emotionally stunted.

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Anonymous wrote:I would love to know the medical reason to kill a healthy woman when her only condition that is killing her is pregnancy

Elective abortion means neither mother nor baby are not experiencing any medical issues or health problems. That’s what the majority of abortions performed in the US are- elective.

Any pregnancy can turn deadly at any moment. Every pregnancy has the potential to kill or maim or wound the person who carries it. Every pregnancy changes a woman’s or girl’s body forever and entails serious pain. That is why the person who has the uterus needed to gestate is the one who gets to decide if she is willing to do it.

Your argument applies to every human being on earth every second of the day. Just being alive brings risks, and everyone dies. Birth control is more reliable and effective now than at any previous time in history and elective abortion is risky as well.

“Everyone dies.” Ladies, here’s the GOP argument for why the government should be able to force you to continue an unwanted pregnancy.

The GOP has nothing to do with this; women are not being forced to have sex and become pregnant. People are not being forced to donate organs. Anyone who is pretending those things are occurring are delusional and need therapy.

Yep. That 10 year old in Ohio consented to it, right?

SO gross.

No, her own mother and her mom’s pedo boyfriend forced her to be raped.

It’s totally disgusting and gross what happened to her. And aren’t you relieved she was able to terminate the resulting pregnancy so she didn’t have to go through another trauma, the trauma of giving birth?

Who knows what the girl wanted? She’s still living with her forced pedo rapist mother. Mom didn’t go to jail for allowing her 9 year old to be raped and impregnated by her adult boyfriend.

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Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of abortions are elective.

Birth control has become more reliable.

The same people who ignore ^^^ are trying to tell you unborn babies are not human and unborn babies are not alive.

Please do not have an abortion if that is your choice. Everyone will respect your decision. Just stay out of this matter for other women. It does not concern you.

But it concerns you?

What any other woman decides is none of my or your business.

Elective abortion is choosing to kill an unborn child. There is no medical reason to kill a healthy unborn baby, and my tax dollars are used against my will to fund Planned Parenthood.

And you would have the state force a woman to use her body against her will.

The GOP gets sick pleasure out of forcing women to do things without their consent.

Citation needed. GOP is forcing women to have sex and become pregnant?

Are you only capable of making childish strawman arguments?

The GOP is forcing women to give birth against their will.

And clearly they get some kind of sick perverted pleasure out of it. Fcking masochists.

No, because the GOP can’t force women to become pregnant. The GOP can’t force men to ejaculate in women and father children.

Democrats are trying to convince people there is an alternative society occurring where political parties are forcing American citizens to have sex and forcing parents to donate organs to their children and dying as a result.

Are you claiming rape does not exist?

Things that do not exist: forced organ donation and the GOP forcing people to have sex.

Things that make you sound like ignorant child throwing a tantrum: constant stream of dumb strawman arguments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The conclusion that human life begins at sperm-egg fusion is uncontested, objective, based on the universally accepted scientific method of distinguishing different cell types from each other and on ample scientific evidence (thousands of independent, peer-reviewed publications).

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Anonymous wrote:I would love to know the medical reason to kill a healthy woman when her only condition that is killing her is pregnancy

Elective abortion means neither mother nor baby are not experiencing any medical issues or health problems. That’s what the majority of abortions performed in the US are- elective.

Any pregnancy can turn deadly at any moment. Every pregnancy has the potential to kill or maim or wound the person who carries it. Every pregnancy changes a woman’s or girl’s body forever and entails serious pain. That is why the person who has the uterus needed to gestate is the one who gets to decide if she is willing to do it.

Your argument applies to every human being on earth every second of the day. Just being alive brings risks, and everyone dies. Birth control is more reliable and effective now than at any previous time in history and elective abortion is risky as well.

“Everyone dies.” Ladies, here’s the GOP argument for why the government should be able to force you to continue an unwanted pregnancy.

The GOP has nothing to do with this; women are not being forced to have sex and become pregnant. People are not being forced to donate organs. Anyone who is pretending those things are occurring are delusional and need therapy.

Yep. That 10 year old in Ohio consented to it, right?

SO gross.

No, her own mother and her mom’s pedo boyfriend forced her to be raped.

A horrible tragedy. They should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

The issue that the adults here are discussing is that the GOP wants to force ANOTHER tragedy.

How did the GOP force the 10 year old to be raped by her mom’s boyfriend and force her mom to allow the rape?

Can you follow a simple argument? Part of this tragedy is trying to force the child to carry a pregnancy and give birth.

PP sounds like a Catholic school teen trolling.

[Anonymous]

This thread has gotten wildly off topic because some misogynistic freak was too scared to take their mushy-brained “ideas” and “facts” to the appropriate thread on Roe.
Please just report their posts. They can take it over there and get their teeth kicked in by the posters over there.
This is about a legal mechanism that is on the books and will be activated during a second Trump term to greatly restrict the American people’s freedoms.

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Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of abortions are elective.

Birth control has become more reliable.

The same people who ignore ^^^ are trying to tell you unborn babies are not human and unborn babies are not alive.

Please do not have an abortion if that is your choice. Everyone will respect your decision. Just stay out of this matter for other women. It does not concern you.

But it concerns you?

What any other woman decides is none of my or your business.

Elective abortion is choosing to kill an unborn child. There is no medical reason to kill a healthy unborn baby, and my tax dollars are used against my will to fund Planned Parenthood.

And you would have the state force a woman to use her body against her will.

The GOP gets sick pleasure out of forcing women to do things without their consent.

Citation needed. GOP is forcing women to have sex and become pregnant?

Are you only capable of making childish strawman arguments?

The GOP is forcing women to give birth against their will.

And clearly they get some kind of sick perverted pleasure out of it. Fcking masochists.

No, because the GOP can’t force women to become pregnant. The GOP can’t force men to ejaculate in women and father children.

Democrats are trying to convince people there is an alternative society occurring where political parties are forcing American citizens to have sex and forcing parents to donate organs to their children and dying as a result.

Are you claiming rape does not exist?

Things that do not exist: forced organ donation and the GOP forcing people to have sex.

Things that make you sound like ignorant child throwing a tantrum: constant stream of dumb strawman arguments.

hahahaha

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Anonymous wrote:The conclusion that human life begins at sperm-egg fusion is uncontested, objective, based on the universally accepted scientific method of distinguishing different cell types from each other and on ample scientific evidence (thousands of independent, peer-reviewed publications).

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Are these all equivalent?

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Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of abortions are elective.

Birth control has become more reliable.

The same people who ignore ^^^ are trying to tell you unborn babies are not human and unborn babies are not alive.

Please do not have an abortion if that is your choice. Everyone will respect your decision. Just stay out of this matter for other women. It does not concern you.

But it concerns you?

What any other woman decides is none of my or your business.

Elective abortion is choosing to kill an unborn child. There is no medical reason to kill a healthy unborn baby, and my tax dollars are used against my will to fund Planned Parenthood.

And you would have the state force a woman to use her body against her will.

The GOP gets sick pleasure out of forcing women to do things without their consent.

Citation needed. GOP is forcing women to have sex and become pregnant?

Are you only capable of making childish strawman arguments?

The GOP is forcing women to give birth against their will.

And clearly they get some kind of sick perverted pleasure out of it. Fcking masochists.

No, because the GOP can’t force women to become pregnant. The GOP can’t force men to ejaculate in women and father children.

Democrats are trying to convince people there is an alternative society occurring where political parties are forcing American citizens to have sex and forcing parents to donate organs to their children and dying as a result.

Are you claiming rape does not exist?

Things that do not exist: forced organ donation and the GOP forcing people to have sex.

So you are still claiming rape resulting in child birth does not exist? Rare does not mean it does not exist.

Forcing a raped 10 year old to carry to term and birth a child they were forcibly impregnated with IS forced organ donation. The baby could not survive without the forced use of the 10 year old's uterus. The uterus is an organ.

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There really is a lot of nuance here. I am 100% pro-choice. But I think using abortion as a method of birth control is simply disgusting. Unfortunately, there’s too much nuance to write it into the law. People will say “only if it’s medically necessary” and then they’ll be 10,000 reasons why something is medically necessary, or 10,000 reasons why it is not medically necessary. Unfortunately the only option is to make 100% legal in any case. Because you end up punishing the people who really need it if you try to put conditions on it.

I continue to be pro choice (and always will), but people who about babies simply because they don’t want them are disgusting to me.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of abortions are elective.

Birth control has become more reliable.

The same people who ignore ^^^ are trying to tell you unborn babies are not human and unborn babies are not alive.

Please do not have an abortion if that is your choice. Everyone will respect your decision. Just stay out of this matter for other women. It does not concern you.

But it concerns you?

What any other woman decides is none of my or your business.

Elective abortion is choosing to kill an unborn child. There is no medical reason to kill a healthy unborn baby, and my tax dollars are used against my will to fund Planned Parenthood.

And you would have the state force a woman to use her body against her will.

The GOP gets sick pleasure out of forcing women to do things without their consent.

Citation needed. GOP is forcing women to have sex and become pregnant?

Are you only capable of making childish strawman arguments?

The GOP is forcing women to give birth against their will.

And clearly they get some kind of sick perverted pleasure out of it. Fcking masochists.

No, because the GOP can’t force women to become pregnant. The GOP can’t force men to ejaculate in women and father children.

Democrats are trying to convince people there is an alternative society occurring where political parties are forcing American citizens to have sex and forcing parents to donate organs to their children and dying as a result.

What is rape if not forcing someone to be pregnant?

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Anonymous wrote:There really is a lot of nuance here. I am 100% pro-choice. But I think using abortion as a method of birth control is simply disgusting. Unfortunately, there’s too much nuance to write it into the law. People will say “only if it’s medically necessary” and then they’ll be 10,000 reasons why something is medically necessary, or 10,000 reasons why it is not medically necessary. Unfortunately the only option is to make 100% legal in any case. Because you end up punishing the people who really need it if you try to put conditions on it.

I continue to be pro choice (and always will), but people who about babies simply because they don’t want them are disgusting to me.

Yes you have said this like a million times.

There are a lot of children in foster care. What are YOU doing about THAT!???

As an adoptee myself, I am disgusted by people like who seemingly "care" about kids but only when they are able to control and demean and enslave women.

The actual real live BORN CHILDREN like me they can't be bothered to lift a finger to help.

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Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of abortions are elective.

Birth control has become more reliable.

The same people who ignore ^^^ are trying to tell you unborn babies are not human and unborn babies are not alive.

Please do not have an abortion if that is your choice. Everyone will respect your decision. Just stay out of this matter for other women. It does not concern you.

But it concerns you?

What any other woman decides is none of my or your business.

Elective abortion is choosing to kill an unborn child. There is no medical reason to kill a healthy unborn baby, and my tax dollars are used against my will to fund Planned Parenthood.

And you would have the state force a woman to use her body against her will.

The GOP gets sick pleasure out of forcing women to do things without their consent.

Citation needed. GOP is forcing women to have sex and become pregnant?

Are you only capable of making childish strawman arguments?

The GOP is forcing women to give birth against their will.

And clearly they get some kind of sick perverted pleasure out of it. Fcking masochists.

No, because the GOP can’t force women to become pregnant. The GOP can’t force men to ejaculate in women and father children.

Democrats are trying to convince people there is an alternative society occurring where political parties are forcing American citizens to have sex and forcing parents to donate organs to their children and dying as a result.

What is rape if not forcing someone to be pregnant?

They posted a table from a research article that showed abortion due to rape is rare as an insinuation that because it is rare, it does not exist.

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Anonymous wrote:There really is a lot of nuance here. I am 100% pro-choice. But I think using abortion as a method of birth control is simply disgusting. Unfortunately, there’s too much nuance to write it into the law. People will say “only if it’s medically necessary” and then they’ll be 10,000 reasons why something is medically necessary, or 10,000 reasons why it is not medically necessary. Unfortunately the only option is to make 100% legal in any case. Because you end up punishing the people who really need it if you try to put conditions on it.

I continue to be pro choice (and always will), but people who about babies simply because they don’t want them are disgusting to me.

Yes you have said this like a million times.

There are a lot of children in foster care. What are YOU doing about THAT!???

As an adoptee myself, I am disgusted by people like who seemingly "care" about kids but only when they are able to control and demean and enslave women.

The actual real live BORN CHILDREN like me they can't be bothered to lift a finger to help.

+1

-also an adoptee

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Anonymous wrote:There really is a lot of nuance here. I am 100% pro-choice. But I think using abortion as a method of birth control is simply disgusting. Unfortunately, there’s too much nuance to write it into the law. People will say “only if it’s medically necessary” and then they’ll be 10,000 reasons why something is medically necessary, or 10,000 reasons why it is not medically necessary. Unfortunately the only option is to make 100% legal in any case. Because you end up punishing the people who really need it if you try to put conditions on it.

I continue to be pro choice (and always will), but people who about babies simply because they don’t want them are disgusting to me.

Yes you have said this like a million times.

There are a lot of children in foster care. What are YOU doing about THAT!???

As an adoptee myself, I am disgusted by people like who seemingly "care" about kids but only when they are able to control and demean and enslave women.

The actual real live BORN CHILDREN like me they can't be bothered to lift a finger to help.

Are you saying that all kids in foster care are unwanted pregnancies? I beg to differ.

And I’m not sure how what I do/don’t do for kids in foster care is relevant. If people don’t want to have kids, they shouldn’t have the type of sex that results in a pregnancy. It’s not hard.