Psyched! He's closing the Department of Education in Washignton DC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Arizona is the worst ranked state in the nation for education. Not the model the rest of the US should be looking to. https://www.12news.com/article/news/education/arizona-ranks-51st-education-survey-worst-state-country-public-education/75-b9de7076-a84b-4cc1-b439-7b56b34338ff#:~:text=A%20new%20survey%20rates%20Arizona,the%20non%2Dpartisan%20Consumer%20Affairs.

Did they take that honor away from Mississippi ?

You don't want to dig into why Mississippi has such bad metrics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every single quarter, school districts must file two voluminous tomes of reports with the Department of Education and also with the Department of Commerce.

How do you think those reports get filed? You think somebody chants a spell and waves a magic wand?

It takes 800 labor hours to complete each of those reports. For the Department of Commerce, stupid stuff like how many kilowatt hours of electricity were consumed and how many gallons of water and what did they purchase and what did the sell/auction/destroy/dispose of and what assets were depreciated and how many hours did teachers, staff, administrators and other employees work and how many injuries and reported illnesses and time off and badabeebadaboo.

And that's just for the Department of Commerce quarterly report.

Do you have any idea what school districts spend on compliance?

Compliance is not optional. It's a requirement. Failure to comply invites sanctions for the school district, the State or both and the Departments of Education and Commerce have wide-ranging powers to levy sanctions.

Don't file your quarterly report with the Department of Ed? Better hope there was an earthquake, tornado or hurricane because you're gonna be fined.

The discipline section alone is a nightmare. It's no wonder schools don't want to discipline kids because you gotta spend 40 labor hours gathering the data to report a single incident.

In fact, if you bothered to read any of the reports issued by Senate and House Committees on education you'd know the States spend in excess of 50 Million labor hours to process the paperwork mandated by the federal government.

Y'all whine about teachers salaries, well end the federal mandates and there'll be tons o' money to give teachers a pay raise. In fact, you could probably increase their salaries 50% because that's how much money school districts spend to be compliant with federal mandates.

What the Department of Education does is raise the cost of education without raising student achievement.

Milton Friedman was right. Education need to be publicly funded because it's in the country's best interest but families must have choices.

To that end Arizona does it right. 90% of the money spent on your child at a public school can be used by the family to pay for a private school.

Arizona also added on-line learning to reduce costs to tax-payers.

How? These so-called autistic students are disruptive and distracting and ruin learning in the classroom because of their frequent outbursts and it costs money because school districts have to hire people to help teachers manage these autistic kids in the classroom and the autistic kids aren't learning anything.

By letting those students stay home with their care-giver who knows them way better than school staff and can supervise them properly saves school districts money and the care-giver knows when their child is "in a learning mood" and can get them online to complete tasks and assignments.

It's a win-win for everyone.

So I guess it is better to fly blind and make decisions on whims than, you know, data.

This is why our country is failing, it is so sad.

If there are no reports with data in them, then those pesky libs won’t be able to keep pointing out how bad the schools in red states are.

[Anonymous]

Exactly. Comparison data is helpful to see what is working and what isn't and where problems are being solved and where they are being created. So stupid.

[Anonymous]

Elimination of the Department of Education is the easiest decision in the world. It will be addition by subtraction. The people who work there can go find jobs as teachers; we are always told there aren't enough. I assume they all have education degrees; maybe they can use them to actually teach.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Every single quarter, school districts must file two voluminous tomes of reports with the Department of Education and also with the Department of Commerce.

How do you think those reports get filed? You think somebody chants a spell and waves a magic wand?

It takes 800 labor hours to complete each of those reports. For the Department of Commerce, stupid stuff like how many kilowatt hours of electricity were consumed and how many gallons of water and what did they purchase and what did the sell/auction/destroy/dispose of and what assets were depreciated and how many hours did teachers, staff, administrators and other employees work and how many injuries and reported illnesses and time off and badabeebadaboo.

And that's just for the Department of Commerce quarterly report.

Do you have any idea what school districts spend on compliance?

Compliance is not optional. It's a requirement. Failure to comply invites sanctions for the school district, the State or both and the Departments of Education and Commerce have wide-ranging powers to levy sanctions.

Don't file your quarterly report with the Department of Ed? Better hope there was an earthquake, tornado or hurricane because you're gonna be fined.

The discipline section alone is a nightmare. It's no wonder schools don't want to discipline kids because you gotta spend 40 labor hours gathering the data to report a single incident.

In fact, if you bothered to read any of the reports issued by Senate and House Committees on education you'd know the States spend in excess of 50 Million labor hours to process the paperwork mandated by the federal government.

Y'all whine about teachers salaries, well end the federal mandates and there'll be tons o' money to give teachers a pay raise. In fact, you could probably increase their salaries 50% because that's how much money school districts spend to be compliant with federal mandates.

What the Department of Education does is raise the cost of education without raising student achievement.

Milton Friedman was right. Education need to be publicly funded because it's in the country's best interest but families must have choices.

To that end Arizona does it right. 90% of the money spent on your child at a public school can be used by the family to pay for a private school.

Arizona also added on-line learning to reduce costs to tax-payers.

How? These so-called autistic students are disruptive and distracting and ruin learning in the classroom because of their frequent outbursts and it costs money because school districts have to hire people to help teachers manage these autistic kids in the classroom and the autistic kids aren't learning anything.

By letting those students stay home with their care-giver who knows them way better than school staff and can supervise them properly saves school districts money and the care-giver knows when their child is "in a learning mood" and can get them online to complete tasks and assignments.

It's a win-win for everyone.

Are you kidding me? Former Arizonan with a front row seat to the dismantling of the public education system and the resulting race to the bottom. Plummeting performance, corrupt leadership of privately run charter schools making 7 figures and forcing parents to “fundraise” to tip their underpaid teachers, spending a part time job’s worth of hours to get up to speed on how to play the game and get the best education for your kid, no more neighborhood school friends because everyone drives across the city for the best school they could lottery in to…it is a depressing mess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every single quarter, school districts must file two voluminous tomes of reports with the Department of Education and also with the Department of Commerce.

How do you think those reports get filed? You think somebody chants a spell and waves a magic wand?

It takes 800 labor hours to complete each of those reports. For the Department of Commerce, stupid stuff like how many kilowatt hours of electricity were consumed and how many gallons of water and what did they purchase and what did the sell/auction/destroy/dispose of and what assets were depreciated and how many hours did teachers, staff, administrators and other employees work and how many injuries and reported illnesses and time off and badabeebadaboo.

And that's just for the Department of Commerce quarterly report.

Do you have any idea what school districts spend on compliance?

Compliance is not optional. It's a requirement. Failure to comply invites sanctions for the school district, the State or both and the Departments of Education and Commerce have wide-ranging powers to levy sanctions.

Don't file your quarterly report with the Department of Ed? Better hope there was an earthquake, tornado or hurricane because you're gonna be fined.

The discipline section alone is a nightmare. It's no wonder schools don't want to discipline kids because you gotta spend 40 labor hours gathering the data to report a single incident.

In fact, if you bothered to read any of the reports issued by Senate and House Committees on education you'd know the States spend in excess of 50 Million labor hours to process the paperwork mandated by the federal government.

Y'all whine about teachers salaries, well end the federal mandates and there'll be tons o' money to give teachers a pay raise. In fact, you could probably increase their salaries 50% because that's how much money school districts spend to be compliant with federal mandates.

What the Department of Education does is raise the cost of education without raising student achievement.

Milton Friedman was right. Education need to be publicly funded because it's in the country's best interest but families must have choices.

To that end Arizona does it right. 90% of the money spent on your child at a public school can be used by the family to pay for a private school.

Arizona also added on-line learning to reduce costs to tax-payers.

How? These so-called autistic students are disruptive and distracting and ruin learning in the classroom because of their frequent outbursts and it costs money because school districts have to hire people to help teachers manage these autistic kids in the classroom and the autistic kids aren't learning anything.

By letting those students stay home with their care-giver who knows them way better than school staff and can supervise them properly saves school districts money and the care-giver knows when their child is "in a learning mood" and can get them online to complete tasks and assignments.

It's a win-win for everyone.

Are you kidding me? Former Arizonan with a front row seat to the dismantling of the public education system and the resulting race to the bottom. Plummeting performance, corrupt leadership of privately run charter schools making 7 figures and forcing parents to “fundraise” to tip their underpaid teachers, spending a part time job’s worth of hours to get up to speed on how to play the game and get the best education for your kid, no more neighborhood school friends because everyone drives across the city for the best school they could lottery in to…it is a depressing mess.

I was there for that too! So much corruption.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every single quarter, school districts must file two voluminous tomes of reports with the Department of Education and also with the Department of Commerce.

How do you think those reports get filed? You think somebody chants a spell and waves a magic wand?

It takes 800 labor hours to complete each of those reports. For the Department of Commerce, stupid stuff like how many kilowatt hours of electricity were consumed and how many gallons of water and what did they purchase and what did the sell/auction/destroy/dispose of and what assets were depreciated and how many hours did teachers, staff, administrators and other employees work and how many injuries and reported illnesses and time off and badabeebadaboo.

And that's just for the Department of Commerce quarterly report.

Do you have any idea what school districts spend on compliance?

Compliance is not optional. It's a requirement. Failure to comply invites sanctions for the school district, the State or both and the Departments of Education and Commerce have wide-ranging powers to levy sanctions.

Don't file your quarterly report with the Department of Ed? Better hope there was an earthquake, tornado or hurricane because you're gonna be fined.

The discipline section alone is a nightmare. It's no wonder schools don't want to discipline kids because you gotta spend 40 labor hours gathering the data to report a single incident.

In fact, if you bothered to read any of the reports issued by Senate and House Committees on education you'd know the States spend in excess of 50 Million labor hours to process the paperwork mandated by the federal government.

Y'all whine about teachers salaries, well end the federal mandates and there'll be tons o' money to give teachers a pay raise. In fact, you could probably increase their salaries 50% because that's how much money school districts spend to be compliant with federal mandates.

What the Department of Education does is raise the cost of education without raising student achievement.

Milton Friedman was right. Education need to be publicly funded because it's in the country's best interest but families must have choices.

To that end Arizona does it right. 90% of the money spent on your child at a public school can be used by the family to pay for a private school.

Arizona also added on-line learning to reduce costs to tax-payers.

How? These so-called autistic students are disruptive and distracting and ruin learning in the classroom because of their frequent outbursts and it costs money because school districts have to hire people to help teachers manage these autistic kids in the classroom and the autistic kids aren't learning anything.

By letting those students stay home with their care-giver who knows them way better than school staff and can supervise them properly saves school districts money and the care-giver knows when their child is "in a learning mood" and can get them online to complete tasks and assignments.

It's a win-win for everyone.

So I guess it is better to fly blind and make decisions on whims than, you know, data.

This is why our country is failing, it is so sad.

If there are no reports with data in them, then those pesky libs won’t be able to keep pointing out how bad the schools in red states are.

Red states like the District of Columbia?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I did not read all the comments but does this mean the whole “inclusion” idea of kids with learning disabilities will be done? When we were growing up there was the special Ed class and then regular class. Do we go back to that?

We have been so fed up with disruptive kids in our public schools we left for private. Will the voucher system come back?

Most students in special ed are not disruptive kids.

What's wrong did the child with cerebral palsy disrupt your child by walking too slowly?

Did the kid in the wheelchair make too much noise wheeling into the classroom?

Would like the child with Down's syndrome to be put in a trailer, so as not to disrupt your perfect children?

DP
Honestly, I think my kids who had classmates with CP and Down's are much better people for having known those kids and befriending them. In their case, they were a positive influence anyone would be grateful for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every single quarter, school districts must file two voluminous tomes of reports with the Department of Education and also with the Department of Commerce.

How do you think those reports get filed? You think somebody chants a spell and waves a magic wand?

It takes 800 labor hours to complete each of those reports. For the Department of Commerce, stupid stuff like how many kilowatt hours of electricity were consumed and how many gallons of water and what did they purchase and what did the sell/auction/destroy/dispose of and what assets were depreciated and how many hours did teachers, staff, administrators and other employees work and how many injuries and reported illnesses and time off and badabeebadaboo.

And that's just for the Department of Commerce quarterly report.

Do you have any idea what school districts spend on compliance?

Compliance is not optional. It's a requirement. Failure to comply invites sanctions for the school district, the State or both and the Departments of Education and Commerce have wide-ranging powers to levy sanctions.

Don't file your quarterly report with the Department of Ed? Better hope there was an earthquake, tornado or hurricane because you're gonna be fined.

The discipline section alone is a nightmare. It's no wonder schools don't want to discipline kids because you gotta spend 40 labor hours gathering the data to report a single incident.

In fact, if you bothered to read any of the reports issued by Senate and House Committees on education you'd know the States spend in excess of 50 Million labor hours to process the paperwork mandated by the federal government.

Y'all whine about teachers salaries, well end the federal mandates and there'll be tons o' money to give teachers a pay raise. In fact, you could probably increase their salaries 50% because that's how much money school districts spend to be compliant with federal mandates.

What the Department of Education does is raise the cost of education without raising student achievement.

Milton Friedman was right. Education need to be publicly funded because it's in the country's best interest but families must have choices.

To that end Arizona does it right. 90% of the money spent on your child at a public school can be used by the family to pay for a private school.

Arizona also added on-line learning to reduce costs to tax-payers.

How? These so-called autistic students are disruptive and distracting and ruin learning in the classroom because of their frequent outbursts and it costs money because school districts have to hire people to help teachers manage these autistic kids in the classroom and the autistic kids aren't learning anything.

By letting those students stay home with their care-giver who knows them way better than school staff and can supervise them properly saves school districts money and the care-giver knows when their child is "in a learning mood" and can get them online to complete tasks and assignments.

It's a win-win for everyone.

Are you kidding me? Former Arizonan with a front row seat to the dismantling of the public education system and the resulting race to the bottom. Plummeting performance, corrupt leadership of privately run charter schools making 7 figures and forcing parents to “fundraise” to tip their underpaid teachers, spending a part time job’s worth of hours to get up to speed on how to play the game and get the best education for your kid, no more neighborhood school friends because everyone drives across the city for the best school they could lottery in to…it is a depressing mess.

Similar to a lot of DC. Charters are full of corruption, the teachers are miserable and overworked, and the kids still aren't learning anything.

[Anonymous]

Most of you have absolutely no idea what the DoE does, you just assume it's bad because Trump told you so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I did not read all the comments but does this mean the whole “inclusion” idea of kids with learning disabilities will be done? When we were growing up there was the special Ed class and then regular class. Do we go back to that?

We have been so fed up with disruptive kids in our public schools we left for private. Will the voucher system come back?

Most students in special ed are not disruptive kids.

What's wrong did the child with cerebral palsy disrupt your child by walking too slowly?

Did the kid in the wheelchair make too much noise wheeling into the classroom?

Would like the child with Down's syndrome to be put in a trailer, so as not to disrupt your perfect children?

DP
Honestly, I think my kids who had classmates with CP and Down's are much better people for having known those kids and befriending them. In their case, they were a positive influence anyone would be grateful for.

Most people do not understand what special ed is, and how many different kinds of programs and students there actually are. CP and Downs kids are definitely not the problem. The biggest problem in elementary is kids who belong in some kind of special program (i.e. not in a mainstream classroom at all), but whose parents and/or the administration of the school refuse to move.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Arizona is the worst ranked state in the nation for education. Not the model the rest of the US should be looking to. https://www.12news.com/article/news/education/arizona-ranks-51st-education-survey-worst-state-country-public-education/75-b9de7076-a84b-4cc1-b439-7b56b34338ff#:~:text=A%20new%20survey%20rates%20Arizona,the%20non%2Dpartisan%20Consumer%20Affairs.

Did they take that honor away from Mississippi ?

You don't want to dig into why Mississippi has such bad metrics.

Mississippi was 39th. Above Texas, West Virginia, Oklahoma, Alabama.


"Sowell said that in the poorest performing states, the problems all came back to money.

"The funding really just was not there," she said.

Arizona ranked 50th on school funding and resources.

That lack of funding, Sowell said, "turns into low teacher salaries, low reading and math scores, which also translates to graduation rates." "

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every single quarter, school districts must file two voluminous tomes of reports with the Department of Education and also with the Department of Commerce.

How do you think those reports get filed? You think somebody chants a spell and waves a magic wand?

It takes 800 labor hours to complete each of those reports. For the Department of Commerce, stupid stuff like how many kilowatt hours of electricity were consumed and how many gallons of water and what did they purchase and what did the sell/auction/destroy/dispose of and what assets were depreciated and how many hours did teachers, staff, administrators and other employees work and how many injuries and reported illnesses and time off and badabeebadaboo.

And that's just for the Department of Commerce quarterly report.

Do you have any idea what school districts spend on compliance?

Compliance is not optional. It's a requirement. Failure to comply invites sanctions for the school district, the State or both and the Departments of Education and Commerce have wide-ranging powers to levy sanctions.

Don't file your quarterly report with the Department of Ed? Better hope there was an earthquake, tornado or hurricane because you're gonna be fined.

The discipline section alone is a nightmare. It's no wonder schools don't want to discipline kids because you gotta spend 40 labor hours gathering the data to report a single incident.

In fact, if you bothered to read any of the reports issued by Senate and House Committees on education you'd know the States spend in excess of 50 Million labor hours to process the paperwork mandated by the federal government.

Y'all whine about teachers salaries, well end the federal mandates and there'll be tons o' money to give teachers a pay raise. In fact, you could probably increase their salaries 50% because that's how much money school districts spend to be compliant with federal mandates.

What the Department of Education does is raise the cost of education without raising student achievement.

Milton Friedman was right. Education need to be publicly funded because it's in the country's best interest but families must have choices.

To that end Arizona does it right. 90% of the money spent on your child at a public school can be used by the family to pay for a private school.

Arizona also added on-line learning to reduce costs to tax-payers.

How? These so-called autistic students are disruptive and distracting and ruin learning in the classroom because of their frequent outbursts and it costs money because school districts have to hire people to help teachers manage these autistic kids in the classroom and the autistic kids aren't learning anything.

By letting those students stay home with their care-giver who knows them way better than school staff and can supervise them properly saves school districts money and the care-giver knows when their child is "in a learning mood" and can get them online to complete tasks and assignments.

It's a win-win for everyone.

So I guess it is better to fly blind and make decisions on whims than, you know, data.

This is why our country is failing, it is so sad.

If there are no reports with data in them, then those pesky libs won’t be able to keep pointing out how bad the schools in red states are.

Red states like the District of Columbia?

DC was #21. Above most red states.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Arizona is the worst ranked state in the nation for education. Not the model the rest of the US should be looking to. https://www.12news.com/article/news/education/arizona-ranks-51st-education-survey-worst-state-country-public-education/75-b9de7076-a84b-4cc1-b439-7b56b34338ff#:~:text=A%20new%20survey%20rates%20Arizona,the%20non%2Dpartisan%20Consumer%20Affairs.

Did they take that honor away from Mississippi ?

You don't want to dig into why Mississippi has such bad metrics.

Mississippi was 39th. Above Texas, West Virginia, Oklahoma, Alabama.


"Sowell said that in the poorest performing states, the problems all came back to money.

"The funding really just was not there," she said.

Arizona ranked 50th on school funding and resources.

That lack of funding, Sowell said, "turns into low teacher salaries, low reading and math scores, which also translates to graduation rates." "

Well they will have $2,400 less per student now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every single quarter, school districts must file two voluminous tomes of reports with the Department of Education and also with the Department of Commerce.

How do you think those reports get filed? You think somebody chants a spell and waves a magic wand?

It takes 800 labor hours to complete each of those reports. For the Department of Commerce, stupid stuff like how many kilowatt hours of electricity were consumed and how many gallons of water and what did they purchase and what did the sell/auction/destroy/dispose of and what assets were depreciated and how many hours did teachers, staff, administrators and other employees work and how many injuries and reported illnesses and time off and badabeebadaboo.

And that's just for the Department of Commerce quarterly report.

Do you have any idea what school districts spend on compliance?

Compliance is not optional. It's a requirement. Failure to comply invites sanctions for the school district, the State or both and the Departments of Education and Commerce have wide-ranging powers to levy sanctions.

Don't file your quarterly report with the Department of Ed? Better hope there was an earthquake, tornado or hurricane because you're gonna be fined.

The discipline section alone is a nightmare. It's no wonder schools don't want to discipline kids because you gotta spend 40 labor hours gathering the data to report a single incident.

In fact, if you bothered to read any of the reports issued by Senate and House Committees on education you'd know the States spend in excess of 50 Million labor hours to process the paperwork mandated by the federal government.

Y'all whine about teachers salaries, well end the federal mandates and there'll be tons o' money to give teachers a pay raise. In fact, you could probably increase their salaries 50% because that's how much money school districts spend to be compliant with federal mandates.

What the Department of Education does is raise the cost of education without raising student achievement.

Milton Friedman was right. Education need to be publicly funded because it's in the country's best interest but families must have choices.

To that end Arizona does it right. 90% of the money spent on your child at a public school can be used by the family to pay for a private school.

Arizona also added on-line learning to reduce costs to tax-payers.

How? These so-called autistic students are disruptive and distracting and ruin learning in the classroom because of their frequent outbursts and it costs money because school districts have to hire people to help teachers manage these autistic kids in the classroom and the autistic kids aren't learning anything.

By letting those students stay home with their care-giver who knows them way better than school staff and can supervise them properly saves school districts money and the care-giver knows when their child is "in a learning mood" and can get them online to complete tasks and assignments.

It's a win-win for everyone.

Are you kidding me? Former Arizonan with a front row seat to the dismantling of the public education system and the resulting race to the bottom. Plummeting performance, corrupt leadership of privately run charter schools making 7 figures and forcing parents to “fundraise” to tip their underpaid teachers, spending a part time job’s worth of hours to get up to speed on how to play the game and get the best education for your kid, no more neighborhood school friends because everyone drives across the city for the best school they could lottery in to…it is a depressing mess.

I was there for that too! So much corruption.

In TX we just found out that a franchised charter school can send millions of their funds to failing out of state charters. It's a literal grift