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Anonymous
| What an uptight group of parents and admins. |
Anonymous
What did they say in the video? |
Anonymous
BASIS "brain drain" of top performing kids is a real problem in my child's grade. We are losing multiple top of the class kids (and we all know who these kids are, because BASIS tells everyone three times a year). |
Anonymous
You are misusing the words "fact", "always" and "at least". The data is public; you are wrong. 25% of classes* lost less then half by 9th and 20% lost less than 60%* by 12th. The asterisks are because I am excluding classes that were year one at BASIS since those families had no idea what BASIS was and because BASIS added some kids after 6th into those classes so the data is dirty. There are reasonable arguments to be made here. People like you who gaslight and make things up are not credible voices with which to engage. |
Anonymous
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You're really splitting hairs here in asserting that there are reasonable arguments even as you deny inconvenient realities. PPs are not wrong in pointing out that most BASIS cohorts indeed lose half, or more than half, of their members before high school. Also true that more families bail after enrolling in the HS. Right, "always" was a hyperbolic descriptor above, but the trend is clear.
That's the BASIS model: the program actively weeds out at least one-third of the students. I don't blame them--there should obviously be criteria for elections beyond lottery luck-but that's how it works. People like you who protest too much are a drag. |
Anonymous
| for admissions/enrollment |
Anonymous
Why is this a bad thing? If all the top performers leave, doesn't that mean the middle performers now have a chance to be the top? And wouldn't it be easier for the few top that remain to stay at the top? |
Anonymous
Because that's not really being the top. And there won't be kids to fill the most advanced courses so it's hard to offer them. |
Anonymous
If that's not the top, what is? |
Anonymous
It's high performance compared to a statistically significant pool of students, such as all students citywide. Being the "top" of whoever's left at BASIS after the higher performing kids leave for Walls isn't that meaningful, because it's a small comparison group and because BASIS' weird model causes the lower performers but also the higher performers to want to leave. So you're left with a group that isn't a representative sample. I have no idea why anyone would think being the "top" of 50 or so kids is a meaningful measure. |
Anonymous
| It really is a weird model. Instead of scaring away top 8th graders why not try to incentivize them to stay? |
Anonymous
I’m worried we are going to hemorrhage 6th graders this year. |
Anonymous
| Why 6th graders? Where would they go? 7th isn’t a standard entry year anywhere in this area. |
Anonymous
I know one headed to private. Several moving. We lost one mid-year. All very good students. |
Anonymous
All you do is endlessly sh*t on BASIS and then complain when people call you out. What is your goal here? Do you have a kid at the school and just want to vent? Did your kid drop out and you want to get revenge? What is the point of your posts? So, yeah, I have zero problem labeling you the Carping Mom and dismissing your completely unhelpful rants. You have added absolutely nothing constructive to this conversation. Given the Basis charter, advanced curriculum, inability to do do placement tests, and no-social-promotion policy, the school has to follow an attrition model. As kids drop out (for whatever reason), they aren’t replaced. Most of the kids who drop out are struggling academically; some drop out because they move out of the area or go overseas; and some go to other schools such as Walls, Duke, Coolidge, or private. I’m sure Basis would love to replace the kids who leave with high-fliers but they can’t under their charter. Plenty of top kids stay at Basis and the ones who go to Walls, Duke, or private are not necessarily the top ones. I would say that the handful of students who decamp to Walls every year are generally good students but they are hardly all at the top of the class. Similarly, kids who go to Duke are often not top students and go to Duke for non-academic reasons. Finally, kids that go private are not necessarily top students either--some of them are talented athletes who who rather go to a school where they shine in that area. For example, here are last year’s high school 4+ PARCC scores for Walls and BASIS: Walls ELA 94.07 Math 67.44 BASIS ELA 92.06 Math 66.12 In other words, BASIS a 100% lottery school, basically has the same PARCC results as Walls, which supposedly selects the top students in the city for the school. So, you are absolutely wrong to think that the best students leave for Walls. Those that remain for high school are just as good as Walls. Lastly, you really think Basis is poorly run compared to, say, Walls? You have no clue. So, maybe you should pipe down Carping Mom. We are tired of your constant BS. |