Bye-bye Chevron

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

For those who don't understand what Chevron Deference is, and why SCOTUS ended it, here's the long and short of it:

A family fishing company, Loper Bright Enterprises, was being driven out of business, because they couldn't afford the $700 per day they were being charged by the National Marine Fisheries Service to monitor their company.

The thing is, federal law doesn't authorize NMFS to charge businesses for this. They just decided to start doing it in 2013.

Why did they think they could away with just charging people without any legal authorization?

Because in 1984, in the Chevron decision, the Supreme Court decided that regulatory agencies were the "experts" in their field, and the courts should just defer to their "interpretation" of the law.

So for the past 40 years, federal agencies have been able to "interpret" laws to mean whatever they want, and the courts had to just go with it.

It was called Chevron Deference, and it put bureaucrats in charge of the country.

It's how the OHSA was able to decide that everyone who worked for a large company had to get the jab, or be fired.

No law gave them that authority, they just made it up.

It's how the ATF was able to decide a piece of plastic was a "machine gun".

It's how the NCRS was able to decide that a small puddle was a "protected wetlands".

It's how out-of-control agencies have been able to create rules out of thin air, and force you to comply, and the courts had to simply defer to them, because they were the "experts".

Imagine if your local police could just arrest you, for any reason, and no judge or jury was allowed to determine if you'd actually committed a crime or not. Just off to jail you go.

That's what Chevron Deference was.

It was not only blatantly unconstitutional, it caused immeasurable harm to everyone.

Thankfully, it's now gone.

We haven't even begun to feel the effects of this decision in the courts. It will be used, for years to come, to roll back federal agencies, and we'll all be better of for it.

And that's why politicians and corporate media are freaking out about it.

Fwiw, your guy Spike has his facts wrong. But don't let that stop you. Carry on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

For those who don't understand what Chevron Deference is, and why SCOTUS ended it, here's the long and short of it:

A family fishing company, Loper Bright Enterprises, was being driven out of business, because they couldn't afford the $700 per day they were being charged by the National Marine Fisheries Service to monitor their company.

The thing is, federal law doesn't authorize NMFS to charge businesses for this. They just decided to start doing it in 2013.

Why did they think they could away with just charging people without any legal authorization?

Because in 1984, in the Chevron decision, the Supreme Court decided that regulatory agencies were the "experts" in their field, and the courts should just defer to their "interpretation" of the law.

So for the past 40 years, federal agencies have been able to "interpret" laws to mean whatever they want, and the courts had to just go with it.

It was called Chevron Deference, and it put bureaucrats in charge of the country.

It's how the OHSA was able to decide that everyone who worked for a large company had to get the jab, or be fired.

No law gave them that authority, they just made it up.

It's how the ATF was able to decide a piece of plastic was a "machine gun".

It's how the NCRS was able to decide that a small puddle was a "protected wetlands".

It's how out-of-control agencies have been able to create rules out of thin air, and force you to comply, and the courts had to simply defer to them, because they were the "experts".

Imagine if your local police could just arrest you, for any reason, and no judge or jury was allowed to determine if you'd actually committed a crime or not. Just off to jail you go.

That's what Chevron Deference was.

It was not only blatantly unconstitutional, it caused immeasurable harm to everyone.

Thankfully, it's now gone.

We haven't even begun to feel the effects of this decision in the courts. It will be used, for years to come, to roll back federal agencies, and we'll all be better of for it.

And that's why politicians and corporate media are freaking out about it.

That’s a BINGO!!!!!

Anyone can just go out in the ocean or lake and take whatever the f they want? Why does that belong to you? If we have no limits on things a few self centered selfish pigs always go out and take everything ruin if for everyone. If you intend to go out and take your living from communal natural resources, how in heck can there not be rules and limits and costs associated with that? I don't get the issue.

If I’m not doing anything illegal you and your agency can get fxxked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

For those who don't understand what Chevron Deference is, and why SCOTUS ended it, here's the long and short of it:

A family fishing company, Loper Bright Enterprises, was being driven out of business, because they couldn't afford the $700 per day they were being charged by the National Marine Fisheries Service to monitor their company.

The thing is, federal law doesn't authorize NMFS to charge businesses for this. They just decided to start doing it in 2013.

Why did they think they could away with just charging people without any legal authorization?

Because in 1984, in the Chevron decision, the Supreme Court decided that regulatory agencies were the "experts" in their field, and the courts should just defer to their "interpretation" of the law.

So for the past 40 years, federal agencies have been able to "interpret" laws to mean whatever they want, and the courts had to just go with it.

It was called Chevron Deference, and it put bureaucrats in charge of the country.

It's how the OHSA was able to decide that everyone who worked for a large company had to get the jab, or be fired.

No law gave them that authority, they just made it up.

It's how the ATF was able to decide a piece of plastic was a "machine gun".

It's how the NCRS was able to decide that a small puddle was a "protected wetlands".

It's how out-of-control agencies have been able to create rules out of thin air, and force you to comply, and the courts had to simply defer to them, because they were the "experts".

Imagine if your local police could just arrest you, for any reason, and no judge or jury was allowed to determine if you'd actually committed a crime or not. Just off to jail you go.

That's what Chevron Deference was.

It was not only blatantly unconstitutional, it caused immeasurable harm to everyone.

Thankfully, it's now gone.

We haven't even begun to feel the effects of this decision in the courts. It will be used, for years to come, to roll back federal agencies, and we'll all be better of for it.

And that's why politicians and corporate media are freaking out about it.

Fwiw, your guy Spike has his facts wrong. But don't let that stop you. Carry on.

What exactly is wrong with the facts he’s stated?

[Anonymous]

Reminds me of the EPA declaring co2 as a pollutant and then making all sorts of wild legislation to regulate everything they feel needs to be. What they did in effect is create a bunch of jobs for leeches and people who are too incompetent to do anything else in real life. That's how .gov rolls today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Reminds me of the EPA declaring co2 as a pollutant and then making all sorts of wild legislation to regulate everything they feel needs to be. What they did in effect is create a bunch of jobs for leeches and people who are too incompetent to do anything else in real life. That's how .gov rolls today.

This is the type of crap you’ll find in these agencies. They are filled with the worst kind of lazy scum you can imagine. Zero accountability for anyone besides maybe contractors.

[Anonymous]

Create legislation to protect LGBTQ+.

Then create govt organizations to enforce it and force companies to create slots for Diversity and Equity Officers at $150K - $200K a pop to do BS regulatory paperwork.

Meanwhile, the actual people who perform functions for the core mission of the company make $100K.

Ain't gubmint beautiful?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Create legislation to protect LGBTQ+.

Then create govt organizations to enforce it and force companies to create slots for Diversity and Equity Officers at $150K - $200K a pop to do BS regulatory paperwork.

Meanwhile, the actual people who perform functions for the core mission of the company make $100K.

Ain't gubmint beautiful?

AFUERA!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

For those who don't understand what Chevron Deference is, and why SCOTUS ended it, here's the long and short of it:

A family fishing company, Loper Bright Enterprises, was being driven out of business, because they couldn't afford the $700 per day they were being charged by the National Marine Fisheries Service to monitor their company.

The thing is, federal law doesn't authorize NMFS to charge businesses for this. They just decided to start doing it in 2013.

Why did they think they could away with just charging people without any legal authorization?

Because in 1984, in the Chevron decision, the Supreme Court decided that regulatory agencies were the "experts" in their field, and the courts should just defer to their "interpretation" of the law.

So for the past 40 years, federal agencies have been able to "interpret" laws to mean whatever they want, and the courts had to just go with it.

It was called Chevron Deference, and it put bureaucrats in charge of the country.

It's how the OHSA was able to decide that everyone who worked for a large company had to get the jab, or be fired.

No law gave them that authority, they just made it up.

It's how the ATF was able to decide a piece of plastic was a "machine gun".

It's how the NCRS was able to decide that a small puddle was a "protected wetlands".

It's how out-of-control agencies have been able to create rules out of thin air, and force you to comply, and the courts had to simply defer to them, because they were the "experts".

Imagine if your local police could just arrest you, for any reason, and no judge or jury was allowed to determine if you'd actually committed a crime or not. Just off to jail you go.

That's what Chevron Deference was.

It was not only blatantly unconstitutional, it caused immeasurable harm to everyone.

Thankfully, it's now gone.

We haven't even begun to feel the effects of this decision in the courts. It will be used, for years to come, to roll back federal agencies, and we'll all be better of for it.

And that's why politicians and corporate media are freaking out about it.

That’s a BINGO!!!!!

Anyone can just go out in the ocean or lake and take whatever the f they want? Why does that belong to you? If we have no limits on things a few self centered selfish pigs always go out and take everything ruin if for everyone. If you intend to go out and take your living from communal natural resources, how in heck can there not be rules and limits and costs associated with that? I don't get the issue.

If I’m not doing anything illegal you and your agency can get fxxked.

I don't have an agency. I have to share this planet with you and everyone else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Create legislation to protect LGBTQ+.

Then create govt organizations to enforce it and force companies to create slots for Diversity and Equity Officers at $150K - $200K a pop to do BS regulatory paperwork.

Meanwhile, the actual people who perform functions for the core mission of the company make $100K.

Ain't gubmint beautiful?

BTW, that's called "governance" and "frameworks".

They have neat names for everything... like "risk corridors".

Can you "ReImagine" that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Create legislation to protect LGBTQ+.

Then create govt organizations to enforce it and force companies to create slots for Diversity and Equity Officers at $150K - $200K a pop to do BS regulatory paperwork.

Meanwhile, the actual people who perform functions for the core mission of the company make $100K.

Ain't gubmint beautiful?

I mean that's essentially what they did by creating title 9 protections specifically for women and then redefining women to mean anyone who self identified as such.

[Anonymous]

I identify as a Prius.

Are there any protections for me? Can I get some free money?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I identify as a Prius.

Are there any protections for me? Can I get some free money?

At least you don't identify as a comedian. You would never earn a dime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I identify as a Prius.

Are there any protections for me? Can I get some free money?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I identify as a Prius.

Are there any protections for me? Can I get some free money?

If I buy you you come work for me and I get a $7,500 subsidy. Deal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I identify as a Prius.

Are there any protections for me? Can I get some free money?

If I buy you you come work for me and I get a $7,500 subsidy. Deal?