Inside the great teacher resignation

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fairfax county’s school board and administration just keep piling on the demands of teachers in FCPS. Nearly all the new demands are equity-driven.

FCPS is losing teachers, both old and new, while also lowering the quality of education offered to students in the county.

This and it’s so much worse this year-more will leave

It's not just FCPS. My district in MD seems intent on piling on the work so that teachers will quit. It's insanity. My mom taught the same grade I do. She retired after 28 yrs. I tell her what we have to do and she is dumbfounded. All she had to do was teach and grade.

This is why most sped should be removed from the gen ed classroom along with kids who exhibit anti-social behaviors. Parents who can't even parent their own learning disabled or emotionally challenged children effectively are basically expecting strangers to do the work for them while managing 20-30 other kids in k-5 or 100+ kids in 6-12. They try to shame other parents and kids by saying that normal kids "need" to be around these other kids, and not the other way around. The result is a general downward trend in education for everyone, and teacher burn out.

Is there a study that shows test scores are higher for all kids in a class that has sped kids mixed with regular kids? Or does it show that gen ed kids perform lower than they should while sped kids perform better? If it's the latter, then this could translate into 100s of thousands of dollars in lost income over the course of a lifetime for gen ed kids because they're collateral damage.

You're making blanket generalizations that simply aren't true.

I'm HS gen ed teacher teaching a couple of team-taught classes this year with a mix of gen ed and SPED students. Some of my SPED kids are stronger students than a number of the gen ed kids. Most of my SPED students are very well behaved, earnest and hard working. My students with autism are great--they are kind, follow instructions, are polite, don't argue, don't cheat and don't lie to me (about having done their homework) or to their parents (about whatever excuse for why they're not doing well in class). If it weren't for some quirks, you'd never guess they were SPED and they would stand out as terrific kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fairfax county’s school board and administration just keep piling on the demands of teachers in FCPS. Nearly all the new demands are equity-driven.

FCPS is losing teachers, both old and new, while also lowering the quality of education offered to students in the county.

This and it’s so much worse this year-more will leave

It's not just FCPS. My district in MD seems intent on piling on the work so that teachers will quit. It's insanity. My mom taught the same grade I do. She retired after 28 yrs. I tell her what we have to do and she is dumbfounded. All she had to do was teach and grade.

This is why most sped should be removed from the gen ed classroom along with kids who exhibit anti-social behaviors. Parents who can't even parent their own learning disabled or emotionally challenged children effectively are basically expecting strangers to do the work for them while managing 20-30 other kids in k-5 or 100+ kids in 6-12. They try to shame other parents and kids by saying that normal kids "need" to be around these other kids, and not the other way around. The result is a general downward trend in education for everyone, and teacher burn out.

Is there a study that shows test scores are higher for all kids in a class that has sped kids mixed with regular kids? Or does it show that gen ed kids perform lower than they should while sped kids perform better? If it's the latter, then this could translate into 100s of thousands of dollars in lost income over the course of a lifetime for gen ed kids because they're collateral damage.

You're making blanket generalizations that simply aren't true.

I'm HS gen ed teacher teaching a couple of team-taught classes this year with a mix of gen ed and SPED students. Some of my SPED kids are stronger students than a number of the gen ed kids. Most of my SPED students are very well behaved, earnest and hard working. My students with autism are great--they are kind, follow instructions, are polite, don't argue, don't cheat and don't lie to me (about having done their homework) or to their parents (about whatever excuse for why they're not doing well in class). If it weren't for some quirks, you'd never guess they were SPED and they would stand out as terrific kids.

Then you don’t have the sort of classroom that pp is talking about, do you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fairfax county’s school board and administration just keep piling on the demands of teachers in FCPS. Nearly all the new demands are equity-driven.

FCPS is losing teachers, both old and new, while also lowering the quality of education offered to students in the county.

This and it’s so much worse this year-more will leave

It's not just FCPS. My district in MD seems intent on piling on the work so that teachers will quit. It's insanity. My mom taught the same grade I do. She retired after 28 yrs. I tell her what we have to do and she is dumbfounded. All she had to do was teach and grade.

This is why most sped should be removed from the gen ed classroom along with kids who exhibit anti-social behaviors. Parents who can't even parent their own learning disabled or emotionally challenged children effectively are basically expecting strangers to do the work for them while managing 20-30 other kids in k-5 or 100+ kids in 6-12. They try to shame other parents and kids by saying that normal kids "need" to be around these other kids, and not the other way around. The result is a general downward trend in education for everyone, and teacher burn out.

Is there a study that shows test scores are higher for all kids in a class that has sped kids mixed with regular kids? Or does it show that gen ed kids perform lower than they should while sped kids perform better? If it's the latter, then this could translate into 100s of thousands of dollars in lost income over the course of a lifetime for gen ed kids because they're collateral damage.

You're making blanket generalizations that simply aren't true.

I'm HS gen ed teacher teaching a couple of team-taught classes this year with a mix of gen ed and SPED students. Some of my SPED kids are stronger students than a number of the gen ed kids. Most of my SPED students are very well behaved, earnest and hard working. My students with autism are great--they are kind, follow instructions, are polite, don't argue, don't cheat and don't lie to me (about having done their homework) or to their parents (about whatever excuse for why they're not doing well in class). If it weren't for some quirks, you'd never guess they were SPED and they would stand out as terrific kids.

Then you don’t have the sort of classroom that pp is talking about, do you?

What from the description makes you think I don't? If it's the co-teaching situation, that makes no difference behavior-wise. When a kid starts to act out and one of us has to take them out in the hallway to talk or call parents, the entire class will lose the thread of what's going on for at least 5 minutes. I can assure you misbehavior is equal opportunity when it comes to SPED vs. gen ed students, and some gen ed students are way worse because they plan it out and their parents refuse to believe that their angel did anything wrong.

[Anonymous]

Don't forget the honor students. I would say 70 percent of honor students are just in that class bc their entitled parents made it happen by complaining to admin. The 30 percent of truly decent students will have their education stifled by the 70 percent that are addicted to their phone and disrespectful in.class. If the teacher doesn't inflate the bad kid grades they will have heck to pay by admin bc the bad kid parents will try to end careers through complaining and making admin punish teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s the workload. I have to work all weekend just to keep my head above water. If I’m awake, I’m working or thinking about how I should be working.

And the days at school are brutal assaults on my senses. I go into my bedroom when I get home; the lights are off and I need silence. My own family barely sees me.

I’m miserable and told my doctor that recently. She suggested I quit, and so I likely will.

Are you me?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Some here don't like hearing it, but this is all part of the GOP plan:
Get rid of the federal Department of Education, Destroy local public schools,
Complain how bad local public schools,
Give vouchers so more can go to private, meaning, Christian

You have lost the plot. Dems ask schools to do everything- all social services/safety net for entire family. Those should be an outside of education.
Dems also created the lack of enforcement on crime and expulsions.

This is true.
I am overall a Democrat and am not in favor of vouchers, but I do see the majority of the problems with my job stemming from left wing idealogy - such as no consequences for misbehavior, passing kids along, etc.

So many of the big problems with education could be fixed with a simple switch from the top-down in idealogy. But teachers, and admin are afraid to speak out against what is now considered the correct attitude to have regarding these issues. If you indicate that you are not totally on-board with this stuff you risk being socially and professionally ostracized.