Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem is again is that the loudest voices will be heard and not the voices of parents who don’t speak English and the families that are receiving FARMS. Where is their voice. I work with these families and they too want their kids in better schools and not have poverty concentrated. What you are proposing with option 4 does not address this. Option 3 does and many of them are okay with bussing to get their kid to a better school and are okay with option 3. There is no reason the povery should be concentrated one part of the county. I plan to present my arguments to the board and represent these families who have been excluded for too long.

I think they should speak for themselves rather than have you assume you know what they want.

+1

MCPS should be doing outreach work directly in communities with low-income students who would be affected to speak with parents, rather than waiting for parents to fill out a survey.

MCPS is not doing much outreach, particularly on the program analysis for high schools. This is going to be a sh-- show.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem is again is that the loudest voices will be heard and not the voices of parents who don’t speak English and the families that are receiving FARMS. Where is their voice. I work with these families and they too want their kids in better schools and not have poverty concentrated. What you are proposing with option 4 does not address this. Option 3 does and many of them are okay with bussing to get their kid to a better school and are okay with option 3. There is no reason the povery should be concentrated one part of the county. I plan to present my arguments to the board and represent these families who have been excluded for too long.

I think they should speak for themselves rather than have you assume you know what they want.

+1

MCPS should be doing outreach work directly in communities with low-income students who would be affected to speak with parents, rather than waiting for parents to fill out a survey.

MCPS is not doing much outreach, particularly on the program analysis for high schools. This is going to be a sh-- show.

+1
The people in the know will advocate and continue to push for inequitable solutions.

[Anonymous]

With KSAC closed, we drove from the Tilden area to the aquatic center in DTSS for swim all year. It is a 45 minute drive every time. It was miserable and we won't be signing up to do it again in the Fall.

Traffic in MoCo is miserable - whether west to east or vice versa. I don't know why people are arguing that this is not the case. And obviously a bus ride is much longer because of the stops.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not everyone can be a doctor, lawyer, or engineer. Let's push the smart and well resourced kids up so they can help the rest of society . That would be best use of tax dollars

Saying the quiet part out loud

Yes, it helps to have family resources. This country needs more doctors. Let's put the societal resources in that bag too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not everyone can be a doctor, lawyer, or engineer. Let's push the smart and well resourced kids up so they can help the rest of society . That would be best use of tax dollars

Discrimination undermines capitalism and the free market. You just want the government to give you a leg up over other people. That is picking winners otherwise known as socialism.

Isn't that was DEI is? I guess you didn't understand sarcasm

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not everyone can be a doctor, lawyer, or engineer. Let's push the smart and well resourced kids up so they can help the rest of society . That would be best use of tax dollars

OK, but that means giving our smart kids in DCC the opportutines that they don't have now like AP classes in science and advanced classes in math.

Ok. But they better get 5s. All 3 students who want those classes. Better for you to just get an apt next to WJ

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem is again is that the loudest voices will be heard and not the voices of parents who don’t speak English and the families that are receiving FARMS. Where is their voice. I work with these families and they too want their kids in better schools and not have poverty concentrated. What you are proposing with option 4 does not address this. Option 3 does and many of them are okay with bussing to get their kid to a better school and are okay with option 3. There is no reason the povery should be concentrated one part of the county. I plan to present my arguments to the board and represent these families who have been excluded for too long.

I think they should speak for themselves rather than have you assume you know what they want.

+1

MCPS should be doing outreach work directly in communities with low-income students who would be affected to speak with parents, rather than waiting for parents to fill out a survey.

MCPS is not doing much outreach, particularly on the program analysis for high schools. This is going to be a sh-- show.

The program analysis is even worse than the boundary study. Many people have no clue how it will shift the Hs experience. And not in a positive way!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not everyone can be a doctor, lawyer, or engineer. Let's push the smart and well resourced kids up so they can help the rest of society . That would be best use of tax dollars

Discrimination undermines capitalism and the free market. You just want the government to give you a leg up over other people. That is picking winners otherwise known as socialism.

Isn't that was DEI is? I guess you didn't understand sarcasm

No, it isn't. Not having DEI ensures discrimination. Mountains of data show that recruiters discriminate against Black candidates with the same experience and education as White candidates. See the work of Gary Becker to learn the impact of this on a free market economy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:With KSAC closed, we drove from the Tilden area to the aquatic center in DTSS for swim all year. It is a 45 minute drive every time. It was miserable and we won't be signing up to do it again in the Fall.

Traffic in MoCo is miserable - whether west to east or vice versa. I don't know why people are arguing that this is not the case. And obviously a bus ride is much longer because of the stops.

Was this RMSC or lessons? For lessons, you are better off going to the city of Rockville. If its RMSC, some groups have split options for up county and down county. But, its easily a 45 minute or more drive with traffic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem is again is that the loudest voices will be heard and not the voices of parents who don’t speak English and the families that are receiving FARMS. Where is their voice. I work with these families and they too want their kids in better schools and not have poverty concentrated. What you are proposing with option 4 does not address this. Option 3 does and many of them are okay with bussing to get their kid to a better school and are okay with option 3. There is no reason the povery should be concentrated one part of the county. I plan to present my arguments to the board and represent these families who have been excluded for too long.

How on Earth do you know whose voices are being heard? And why do you think that parents who don’t speak English or families receiving FARMS are a monolith who all want the same things you think they should want? MCPS bends over backwards to get feedback from as many families as possible in numerous languages. It’s like elections. Those who make a point to vote get to vote. Can’t force people to get involved or provide feedback, and all families are being given opportunities through numerous channels. It’s also possible some of these folks don’t have strong opinions and trust the school system to educate their kids in any school building.

Oh you mean online surveys that require internet access and competency and in person meetings that require transportation and time? It took me as a master's educated professional 30 minutes minimum to review the 4 options and generally understand their impacts on me and more broadly.

Saying "they probably just don't have strong opinions" is disgusting.

I didn’t say they probably don’t have strong opinions. I said it’s possible some don’t. There are also probably lots of non FARMS English speakers who also do not care enough to fill out the survey. Not everyone is obsessed with the outcome like you seem to be. Try to understand that other people may have bigger life issues before them and just want their kids to go to school in a safe place they trust. You think families with chronic absenteeism care deeply whether their kid goes to Whitman?

I think it’s disgusting that you assume these adults can’t possibly figure out how to function and are helpless and can’t determine their own priorities without your help from your super special masters degree.

Wow, triggered much?

They could do much more to reach out to communities that aren't technologically savvy and lack transportation. Many live in multifamily housing so canvassing those properties would be a lot faster than canvassing mansions in Potomac. Not a priority for MCPS though.

Agreed more outreach is needed so that people can share their own experiences and concerns with MCPS rather than having a savior imagine what they experience and need speak for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem is again is that the loudest voices will be heard and not the voices of parents who don’t speak English and the families that are receiving FARMS. Where is their voice. I work with these families and they too want their kids in better schools and not have poverty concentrated. What you are proposing with option 4 does not address this. Option 3 does and many of them are okay with bussing to get their kid to a better school and are okay with option 3. There is no reason the povery should be concentrated one part of the county. I plan to present my arguments to the board and represent these families who have been excluded for too long.

I think they should speak for themselves rather than have you assume you know what they want.

+1

MCPS should be doing outreach work directly in communities with low-income students who would be affected to speak with parents, rather than waiting for parents to fill out a survey.

MCPS is not doing much outreach, particularly on the program analysis for high schools. This is going to be a sh-- show.

+1
The people in the know will advocate and continue to push for inequitable solutions.

These are huge changes - not sure Taylor realizes how inferior some of his top staff are. Whatever MCPS springs on people, might cost Taylor his job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:With KSAC closed, we drove from the Tilden area to the aquatic center in DTSS for swim all year. It is a 45 minute drive every time. It was miserable and we won't be signing up to do it again in the Fall.

Traffic in MoCo is miserable - whether west to east or vice versa. I don't know why people are arguing that this is not the case. And obviously a bus ride is much longer because of the stops.

Are you trying to argue traveling from one part of the county to another will always take 45 minutes? Obviously that's absurd but I can't think of any other way your little anecdote is relevant to this thread. If anything it highlights a commute that Option 3 isn't proposing (with good reason, that particular route is a disaster).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not everyone can be a doctor, lawyer, or engineer. Let's push the smart and well resourced kids up so they can help the rest of society . That would be best use of tax dollars

Discrimination undermines capitalism and the free market. You just want the government to give you a leg up over other people. That is picking winners otherwise known as socialism.

Isn't that was DEI is? I guess you didn't understand sarcasm

No, it isn't. Not having DEI ensures discrimination. Mountains of data show that recruiters discriminate against Black candidates with the same experience and education as White candidates. See the work of Gary Becker to learn the impact of this on a free market economy.

This opinion is not relevant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With KSAC closed, we drove from the Tilden area to the aquatic center in DTSS for swim all year. It is a 45 minute drive every time. It was miserable and we won't be signing up to do it again in the Fall.

Traffic in MoCo is miserable - whether west to east or vice versa. I don't know why people are arguing that this is not the case. And obviously a bus ride is much longer because of the stops.

Are you trying to argue traveling from one part of the county to another will always take 45 minutes? Obviously that's absurd but I can't think of any other way your little anecdote is relevant to this thread. If anything it highlights a commute that Option 3 isn't proposing (with good reason, that particular route is a disaster).

No, with traffic it can be longer even in the back roads.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem is again is that the loudest voices will be heard and not the voices of parents who don’t speak English and the families that are receiving FARMS. Where is their voice. I work with these families and they too want their kids in better schools and not have poverty concentrated. What you are proposing with option 4 does not address this. Option 3 does and many of them are okay with bussing to get their kid to a better school and are okay with option 3. There is no reason the povery should be concentrated one part of the county. I plan to present my arguments to the board and represent these families who have been excluded for too long.

I think they should speak for themselves rather than have you assume you know what they want.

+1

MCPS should be doing outreach work directly in communities with low-income students who would be affected to speak with parents, rather than waiting for parents to fill out a survey.

MCPS is not doing much outreach, particularly on the program analysis for high schools. This is going to be a sh-- show.

+1
The people in the know will advocate and continue to push for inequitable solutions.

These are huge changes - not sure Taylor realizes how inferior some of his top staff are. Whatever MCPS springs on people, might cost Taylor his job.

He doesn’t care and the BOE wants them.