Teacher still hasn’t submitted letter of recommendation

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid's teacher still has just over 4 hours, application still not submitted, so I hope she's almost done. Yes, he requested it back in April per our school's policy and yes, followed up as recently as a few days ago. I believe she will get it done, but geez, this is last minute!

Well, you had one student’s application to worry about.

She may have 50 or so students to help, plus her real job and her home obligations on top of that. Just because she hasn’t done yours doesn’t mean she hasn’t been working diligently.

this is part of her read job. if she had too many already, she should have said no

Sigh. No, it is NOT part of a teacher’s job. That has been repeatedly clarified throughout this thread. It isn’t in a teacher’s contract. And as your comment demonstrates, teachers can say no. Since they can say no, it clearly isn’t part of their job.

And because some teachers do say no, those of us who agree to write letters get slammed.

If parents would actually understand that we have until 11/1, then this thread would have stopped on page 1. Interestingly, nobody has come back and said the letters were late. It’s just a ton of parents assuming teachers aren’t fulfilling the task (even though they clearly are).

Man, I hope some of these parents actually encourage their kids to say thank you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid's teacher still has just over 4 hours, application still not submitted, so I hope she's almost done. Yes, he requested it back in April per our school's policy and yes, followed up as recently as a few days ago. I believe she will get it done, but geez, this is last minute!

Well, you had one student’s application to worry about.

She may have 50 or so students to help, plus her real job and her home obligations on top of that. Just because she hasn’t done yours doesn’t mean she hasn’t been working diligently.

this is part of her read job. if she had too many already, she should have said no

Sigh. No, it is NOT part of a teacher’s job. That has been repeatedly clarified throughout this thread. It isn’t in a teacher’s contract. And as your comment demonstrates, teachers can say no. Since they can say no, it clearly isn’t part of their job.

And because some teachers do say no, those of us who agree to write letters get slammed.

If parents would actually understand that we have until 11/1, then this thread would have stopped on page 1. Interestingly, nobody has come back and said the letters were late. It’s just a ton of parents assuming teachers aren’t fulfilling the task (even though they clearly are).

Man, I hope some of these parents actually encourage their kids to say thank you.

If you're a jr year teacher and you don't see this as part of your job, you should do something else.

[Anonymous]

I dont know everyone's contract, but my kids are at a private school and both junior and senior year teachers have this as part of their job description, but there's also a max number they can write

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That makes no sense. Many schools require recommendations. if you submit without them the application is incomplete and wouldn’t be considered.

And they aren’t late. This thread has been going on for a week. Applications aren’t even due until tomorrow.

And, as it has been pointed out many times, schools actually have a grace period and can submit after the deadline. The deadline is for the student.

There’s been a whole lot of angst over nothing.

+1

My DS was informed that the LOR hadn’t been received (through no fault of the teacher who had submitted it on time) so he reached out to the teacher who promptly sent it and he was subsequently admitted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was on the teacher's side of this debate until the last 48 hours when there seem to be a lot of, "well if a students asks me Junior year but then doesn't re-ask me in September even if the counselor has it down and it's in naviance and there were three emails, I just dont do it" defenses started coming in

Literally no one wrote that. The opposite, in fact.

There are so many injustices in the world right now. If you feel like complaining, you don't have to make something up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Still, it's such a bad look, sets a very bad example for their own students, when a teacher can't manage their tasks.

yeah i bet they have no problem marking the kids down for being late with their assignments

I doubt they mark them down before the due date, though.

[Anonymous]

Mine last year had an LOR go in a week late. “These schools have leeway for teachers recs”. Um, not all schools. The guidance counselor actually got so mad at this teacher, which was lucky bcs I was about to go ballistic. Better that it happened on the school side

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid's teacher still has just over 4 hours, application still not submitted, so I hope she's almost done. Yes, he requested it back in April per our school's policy and yes, followed up as recently as a few days ago. I believe she will get it done, but geez, this is last minute!

Well, you had one student’s application to worry about.

She may have 50 or so students to help, plus her real job and her home obligations on top of that. Just because she hasn’t done yours doesn’t mean she hasn’t been working diligently.

this is part of her read job. if she had too many already, she should have said no

Sigh. No, it is NOT part of a teacher’s job. That has been repeatedly clarified throughout this thread. It isn’t in a teacher’s contract. And as your comment demonstrates, teachers can say no. Since they can say no, it clearly isn’t part of their job.

And because some teachers do say no, those of us who agree to write letters get slammed.

If parents would actually understand that we have until 11/1, then this thread would have stopped on page 1. Interestingly, nobody has come back and said the letters were late. It’s just a ton of parents assuming teachers aren’t fulfilling the task (even though they clearly are).

Man, I hope some of these parents actually encourage their kids to say thank you.

If you're a jr year teacher and you don't see this as part of your job, you should do something else.

No, it’s not a part of our job. Screaming the opposite doesn’t change reality.

There’s an assumption/hope we will write some, but we are able to say no as often as we like. And think about this logically: would you want it to be a requirement? What if I can’t say anything positive about your student?

I write close to 50. All on time / early. I do that out of respect for my students and a desire to help them out, NOT because it’s a requirement of my job.

[Anonymous]

NP okay well 50 makes no sense either! Nobody is writing 50 great letters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid's teacher still has just over 4 hours, application still not submitted, so I hope she's almost done. Yes, he requested it back in April per our school's policy and yes, followed up as recently as a few days ago. I believe she will get it done, but geez, this is last minute!

Well, you had one student’s application to worry about.

She may have 50 or so students to help, plus her real job and her home obligations on top of that. Just because she hasn’t done yours doesn’t mean she hasn’t been working diligently.

this is part of her read job. if she had too many already, she should have said no

Sigh. No, it is NOT part of a teacher’s job. That has been repeatedly clarified throughout this thread. It isn’t in a teacher’s contract. And as your comment demonstrates, teachers can say no. Since they can say no, it clearly isn’t part of their job.

And because some teachers do say no, those of us who agree to write letters get slammed.

If parents would actually understand that we have until 11/1, then this thread would have stopped on page 1. Interestingly, nobody has come back and said the letters were late. It’s just a ton of parents assuming teachers aren’t fulfilling the task (even though they clearly are).

Man, I hope some of these parents actually encourage their kids to say thank you.

If you're a jr year teacher and you don't see this as part of your job, you should do something else.

No, it’s not a part of our job. Screaming the opposite doesn’t change reality.

There’s an assumption/hope we will write some, but we are able to say no as often as we like. And think about this logically: would you want it to be a requirement? What if I can’t say anything positive about your student?

I write close to 50. All on time / early. I do that out of respect for my students and a desire to help them out, NOT because it’s a requirement of my job.

50 is insane. you should go to your admin and get a limit and better process. i bet some of your fellow teacher are refusing to write them which is why you end up with so many. that should not be allowed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid's teacher still has just over 4 hours, application still not submitted, so I hope she's almost done. Yes, he requested it back in April per our school's policy and yes, followed up as recently as a few days ago. I believe she will get it done, but geez, this is last minute!

Well, you had one student’s application to worry about.

She may have 50 or so students to help, plus her real job and her home obligations on top of that. Just because she hasn’t done yours doesn’t mean she hasn’t been working diligently.

this is part of her read job. if she had too many already, she should have said no

Sigh. No, it is NOT part of a teacher’s job. That has been repeatedly clarified throughout this thread. It isn’t in a teacher’s contract. And as your comment demonstrates, teachers can say no. Since they can say no, it clearly isn’t part of their job.

And because some teachers do say no, those of us who agree to write letters get slammed.

If parents would actually understand that we have until 11/1, then this thread would have stopped on page 1. Interestingly, nobody has come back and said the letters were late. It’s just a ton of parents assuming teachers aren’t fulfilling the task (even though they clearly are).

Man, I hope some of these parents actually encourage their kids to say thank you.

If you're a jr year teacher and you don't see this as part of your job, you should do something else.

No, it’s not a part of our job. Screaming the opposite doesn’t change reality.

There’s an assumption/hope we will write some, but we are able to say no as often as we like. And think about this logically: would you want it to be a requirement? What if I can’t say anything positive about your student?

I write close to 50. All on time / early. I do that out of respect for my students and a desire to help them out, NOT because it’s a requirement of my job.

No I don't think a teacher should have to write a letter for a particular kid if they can't write a good one. But they also should not be able to refuse to write any at all, so I don't think that should be allowed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid's teacher still has just over 4 hours, application still not submitted, so I hope she's almost done. Yes, he requested it back in April per our school's policy and yes, followed up as recently as a few days ago. I believe she will get it done, but geez, this is last minute!

Well, you had one student’s application to worry about.

She may have 50 or so students to help, plus her real job and her home obligations on top of that. Just because she hasn’t done yours doesn’t mean she hasn’t been working diligently.

this is part of her read job. if she had too many already, she should have said no

Sigh. No, it is NOT part of a teacher’s job. That has been repeatedly clarified throughout this thread. It isn’t in a teacher’s contract. And as your comment demonstrates, teachers can say no. Since they can say no, it clearly isn’t part of their job.

And because some teachers do say no, those of us who agree to write letters get slammed.

If parents would actually understand that we have until 11/1, then this thread would have stopped on page 1. Interestingly, nobody has come back and said the letters were late. It’s just a ton of parents assuming teachers aren’t fulfilling the task (even though they clearly are).

Man, I hope some of these parents actually encourage their kids to say thank you.

If you're a jr year teacher and you don't see this as part of your job, you should do something else.

No, it’s not a part of our job. Screaming the opposite doesn’t change reality.

There’s an assumption/hope we will write some, but we are able to say no as often as we like. And think about this logically: would you want it to be a requirement? What if I can’t say anything positive about your student?

I write close to 50. All on time / early. I do that out of respect for my students and a desire to help them out, NOT because it’s a requirement of my job.

No I don't think a teacher should have to write a letter for a particular kid if they can't write a good one. But they also should not be able to refuse to write any at all, so I don't think that should be allowed.

Considering the nature of these letters, you simply cannot (and should not) make them job requirements.

Some teachers aren’t strong writers. Some teachers won’t write favorable letters.
Some teachers don’t make connections with students the way others do.

If you want strong, well-written letters, you can’t make these a job requirement. Students would suffer. They must remain optional.

Schools could provide time to teachers to write these in the form of admin leave. That would be a solid accommodation, especially for the teachers who get asked the most.

[Anonymous]

Our school has it in the job description. Usually kids stop asking the teachers w low success rates.

One teacher only writes 5 and those are coveted. Those kids get into t10 schools every single year

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our school has it in the job description. Usually kids stop asking the teachers w low success rates.

One teacher only writes 5 and those are coveted. Those kids get into t10 schools every single year

I’d be curious to hear more about how this plays out. So teachers must write letters, but they can limit it to only 5? What if every teacher limits it to only 5? How would the majority of students get letters?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our school has it in the job description. Usually kids stop asking the teachers w low success rates.

One teacher only writes 5 and those are coveted. Those kids get into t10 schools every single year

This is kind of a scam in the teacher’s part. She only has to write 5, and she can pick the absolute best students, who are most likely to get into top colleges regardless of who writes their letters. Then she can pretend she has the magic touch.