Government wants to recall Peloton Tread+ for safety issues

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Anonymous wrote:Can they just recall the negligent parents?

So now it’s negligent to work out while a two year old naps? She wakes up, comes to find you on the treadmill, and gets life-changing injuries. No one but Peloton to blame there.

Your kid shouldn’t be able to get near the tread. Especially if it’s moving. Ever. This is on you as a parent.

The best way to keep your kid from getting near it is for the thing not to be in the house. Never create a system that requires human perfection when you could have one that defaults to the safer circumstance.

Anything can cause anyone to be injured. Should you not keep plastic bags in the house because a kid might put it on his head? Or forks, because a kid will stick one in the electric socket?

There is no good substitute for forks. The substitute for a particularly dangerous kind of treadmill is a less dangerous kind of treadmill.

There is no substitute for good parenting. How about a monitor to watch your napping children to a baby gate to make that room off-limits. You can unplug the machine, put the safety key away from their reach so they can’t turn it on. With any equipment accidents will happen but a lot of it is negligent parenting, lack of common sense parenting.

I did watch the video where the exercise ball got sucked in under and the woman had to hop off the machine. So nothing is accident proof but a lot of it is personal responsibility.

The appropriate number of dead kids because of a more dangerous treadmill model when there is a less-dangerous treadmill model available is zero. Yes, there are things parents can and should do in order to eliminate the danger. But the standard for banning products does not involve the government saying "well, kids with bad parents, guess you're just out of luck on this."

If that's the case, let's ban gas stoves too. Electric stoves are much safer.

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Anonymous wrote:Can they just recall the negligent parents?

So now it’s negligent to work out while a two year old naps? She wakes up, comes to find you on the treadmill, and gets life-changing injuries. No one but Peloton to blame there.

Your kid shouldn’t be able to get near the tread. Especially if it’s moving. Ever. This is on you as a parent.

The best way to keep your kid from getting near it is for the thing not to be in the house. Never create a system that requires human perfection when you could have one that defaults to the safer circumstance.

Anything can cause anyone to be injured. Should you not keep plastic bags in the house because a kid might put it on his head? Or forks, because a kid will stick one in the electric socket?

There is no good substitute for forks. The substitute for a particularly dangerous kind of treadmill is a less dangerous kind of treadmill.

There is no substitute for good parenting. How about a monitor to watch your napping children to a baby gate to make that room off-limits. You can unplug the machine, put the safety key away from their reach so they can’t turn it on. With any equipment accidents will happen but a lot of it is negligent parenting, lack of common sense parenting.

I did watch the video where the exercise ball got sucked in under and the woman had to hop off the machine. So nothing is accident proof but a lot of it is personal responsibility.

The appropriate number of dead kids because of a more dangerous treadmill model when there is a less-dangerous treadmill model available is zero. Yes, there are things parents can and should do in order to eliminate the danger. But the standard for banning products does not involve the government saying "well, kids with bad parents, guess you're just out of luck on this."

If that's the case, let's ban gas stoves too. Electric stoves are much safer.

Sorry that's not good enough. A toddler might touch the plate, only Induction cooktops are acceptable now in the U.S.

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How is this any different from when Mike Tyson's daughter died from a treadmill accident?

The equipment is not intended for children to use period.

Do you let your 4 year old use the lawn mower? Do you leave chemicals and medicine out with the tops off?

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Anonymous wrote:How is this any different from when Mike Tyson's daughter died from a treadmill accident?

The equipment is not intended for children to use period.

Do you let your 4 year old use the lawn mower? Do you leave chemicals and medicine out with the tops off?

I do all of these. But I wear a mask alone in my car, so the danger factor evens itself out. Problem solved.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/04/16/peloton-treadmill-injuries-death-cpsc/

An important warning for anyone who has a Tread+ and also has small children or pets.

Thank the lord. End this terrible fad once and for all

Aww. You Peloton haters are so precious.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/04/16/peloton-treadmill-injuries-death-cpsc/

An important warning for anyone who has a Tread+ and also has small children or pets.

Thank the lord. End this terrible fad once and for all

There are 10x more peloton bikes than treadmills out there. Probably more.

Who knew trying to avoid prematurely dying by exercising was a fad. All of this can be done safely if you are responsible. The manufacturer even tells you exactly how to do that.

One really good idea is to not have a treadmill in a room full of toys that can be turned on by your kids, and only using a treadmill with HUGE rubber slats in a room inaccessible by pets or children.

It’s like driving north on GW parkway. The most optimal way to do that is to not drive off the right side where there are no barricades.

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Parents need to put up a gate or barrier of some sort so their kids cannot get to the tread while it is in operation. at the very least, turn it so that it is facing the door and you can see a child entering the room so you can stop the tread if they should come into the room. They should remove the safety key so that it cannot be operated by the kids. This isn't hard.

Hell, we have safety gates for young kids for a reason, we know that they will go places they are not suppose to go because they are not ready for them.

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I'm not sure if it was in the post article or not, but the video that really struck me was the one where the woman was walking on the treadmill and it sucked up a large exercise ball. There are inherent risks will all treadmills but this looks a design flaw that should be fixed. This seemed like something that could happen under normal use and not an issue of misuse (like kids using it unattended). Although I suppose that the User's manual could have a statement that no objects should be placed within 2 feet of the back of the treadmill.

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Anonymous wrote:The video of the boy getting trapped is scary. Unless you live in a big house where you can lock the kids out of the room it's in, I wouldn't get one. Definitely not for us.

I saw that video, super scary. Wonder if its a design issue. Most treadmills I've seen have some kind of metal or plastic covering so that the running surface/mat goes "inside" that that bracket and that there is covering underneath, this treadmill appears to be "open" without any cladding/covering on the back nor underneath....

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It is clearly a design issue and all the peloton apologists make me sick

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I am a big fan of Peloton. I love the content and the bike. I will get the Peloton treadmill once my 15 year old treadmill finally breaks and once this safety issue is resolved.

I am a parent who believes the parents in the video who set up their treadmill in the kids’ playroom and then left them in there to play without removing the treadmill safety key or unplugging it were grossly negligent.

I also believe there is a design flaw in the Peloton treadmill. Things should not be sucked underneath it. Most importantly, why doesn’t the machine shut off automatically when the base becomes unstable? In the video with the children, the treadmill base was on top of the kid and the treadmill was moving all around. At one point I thought it was going to tip over. Why is the belt still running??

All of these things can be true.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a big fan of Peloton. I love the content and the bike. I will get the Peloton treadmill once my 15 year old treadmill finally breaks and once this safety issue is resolved.

I am a parent who believes the parents in the video who set up their treadmill in the kids’ playroom and then left them in there to play without removing the treadmill safety key or unplugging it were grossly negligent.

I also believe there is a design flaw in the Peloton treadmill. Things should not be sucked underneath it. Most importantly, why doesn’t the machine shut off automatically when the base becomes unstable? In the video with the children, the treadmill base was on top of the kid and the treadmill was moving all around. At one point I thought it was going to tip over. Why is the belt still running??

All of these things can be true.

Agree 100. I have a baby gate around the treadmill, I only use it with the safety key and store the safety key in a location not reachable by my kids, and onky exercise in the basement with door closed, no headphones.

That said, I also agree there is clearly a design flaw and should be recalled.

As Daniel Tiger says, we can have two feelings at the same time.

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Anonymous wrote:Can they just recall the negligent parents?

So now it’s negligent to work out while a two year old naps? She wakes up, comes to find you on the treadmill, and gets life-changing injuries. No one but Peloton to blame there.

Your kid shouldn’t be able to get near the tread. Especially if it’s moving. Ever. This is on you as a parent.

The best way to keep your kid from getting near it is for the thing not to be in the house. Never create a system that requires human perfection when you could have one that defaults to the safer circumstance.

Anything can cause anyone to be injured. Should you not keep plastic bags in the house because a kid might put it on his head? Or forks, because a kid will stick one in the electric socket?

There is no good substitute for forks. The substitute for a particularly dangerous kind of treadmill is a less dangerous kind of treadmill.

There is no substitute for good parenting. How about a monitor to watch your napping children to a baby gate to make that room off-limits. You can unplug the machine, put the safety key away from their reach so they can’t turn it on. With any equipment accidents will happen but a lot of it is negligent parenting, lack of common sense parenting.

I did watch the video where the exercise ball got sucked in under and the woman had to hop off the machine. So nothing is accident proof but a lot of it is personal responsibility.

The appropriate number of dead kids because of a more dangerous treadmill model when there is a less-dangerous treadmill model available is zero. Yes, there are things parents can and should do in order to eliminate the danger. But the standard for banning products does not involve the government saying "well, kids with bad parents, guess you're just out of luck on this."

If that's the case, let's ban gas stoves too. Electric stoves are much safer.

Sorry that's not good enough. A toddler might touch the plate, only Induction cooktops are acceptable now in the U.S.

Yeah, and eff those people who want the Consumer Product Safety Commission to address the dangers of home elevators, too! Instead just ban bad parenting.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/home-elevator-deaths/2019/07/18/27b53434-968e-11e9-830a-21b9b36b64ad_story.html

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Anonymous wrote:Over my dead body. I'm sure jet skis are dangerous for children too - you don't see them being recalled.

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Anonymous wrote:The only thing needing recall in this scenario is the parents. I pull the key on mine and have now decided to turn it off and unplug when not in use.

It can also happen while you’re using it, so hopefully you are in a locked room with no kids or pets.

All kinds of things can happen. Our dog has no interest in the treadmill while it’s in use. I also don’t wear a mask while driving in my car alone.

Not to rain on your parade but.. do you have your in car air set to recycling or intake from outside? Because you know.. if everyone else does have it on the outside then if you zoom behind 100 cars and one dude has a covid in one of the car and your car's filter does not necessarily filter viruses there you are... at risk in the temple of your own car.

little button, big difference.