Become a teacher in FCPS! Virtual job fair.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My husband is an fcps teacher. They weren’t even able to offer their yearly step increase in pay for this year (about $1000). They will need to step up if they want to retain good teachers.

Newsflash, No one is getting pay increases. This isn’t a hill you want to die on.

[Anonymous]

There are currently 114 teacher vacancies. This does not include instructional assistants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are only 91 positions listed as open. I doubt that is much more than usual.

That's a lot for mid-August.

It does seem low. There are four vacancies listed for kindergarten, four for grades 1-3 and fifteen for grades 4-6.

[Anonymous]

Teachers in fairfax county get paid pretty well! 80k with an MA and 10 years experience, plus summer off. Doesn’t seem too shabby to me. All the crying you’d think they made like 25k

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Teachers in fairfax county get paid pretty well! 80k with an MA and 10 years experience, plus summer off. Doesn’t seem too shabby to me. All the crying you’d think they made like 25k

If you started in FCPS today with 10 years experience and a MA you would make $73,834.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Out of more than 20,000 teaching positions and how many other staff, 91 is not a lot.

You’re acting as if they started out with 20,000 vacancies. If that were the case, then being down to 91 wouldn’t be bad BUT most this close to the start of school it is bad. AND we’re talking virtual. Imagine if this were in person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Teachers in fairfax county get paid pretty well! 80k with an MA and 10 years experience, plus summer off. Doesn’t seem too shabby to me. All the crying you’d think they made like 25k

Not sure where you got that number, a teacher coming in to FCPS with 10 years experience would make $73,843. There are some years where step increases are not granted so you don't always know how much someone makes from looking at the payscale.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Teachers in fairfax county get paid pretty well! 80k with an MA and 10 years experience, plus summer off. Doesn’t seem too shabby to me. All the crying you’d think they made like 25k

So are you going to jump on one of the available jobs?

Where are all the teacher bashing parents who inspired this thread? If this were a Teachers Are Lazy and Suck Ass thread we’d be at 10 pages minimum now. Here’s a thread telling parents how to get in on the job since they think they can do it so much better and we get nothing.

I know. Maybe they’re busy filling out the lengthy application online-a part-time job in itself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is it true they will take any warm body without even a degree and give them a special ed teaching license?

It's a provisional license and there's a little more to it than that. Even so, they aren't having an easy time filling those positions. They need to raise the pay by a lot (and I defy anyone to visit a CSS site, Enhanced Autism classroom, or ED center and say that's not justified), and also raise the qualifications. That goes for the aides, too. Otherwise, they'll keep getting a bunch of minimally qualified people who don't even make it two years.

The sped IAs should absolutely be paid more and their work respected more. The goods ones are amazing.

But the minimal requirements and training make me wonder if this is how we end up with IAs who abuse non-verbal autistic children. What were the qualifications of the IAs and teachers who were secluding and restraining the kids and not telling their parents?

I notice there has been no news about any of those investigations or prosecutions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it true they will take any warm body without even a degree and give them a special ed teaching license?

It's a provisional license and there's a little more to it than that. Even so, they aren't having an easy time filling those positions. They need to raise the pay by a lot (and I defy anyone to visit a CSS site, Enhanced Autism classroom, or ED center and say that's not justified), and also raise the qualifications. That goes for the aides, too. Otherwise, they'll keep getting a bunch of minimally qualified people who don't even make it two years.

The sped IAs should absolutely be paid more and their work respected more. The goods ones are amazing.

But the minimal requirements and training make me wonder if this is how we end up with IAs who abuse non-verbal autistic children. What were the qualifications of the IAs and teachers who were secluding and restraining the kids and not telling their parents?

I notice there has been no news about any of those investigations or prosecutions.

That absolutely has something to do with it. I often see stories of teachers at early childhood centers and preschools (not public) that are in trouble for abusing the kids. A lot of those private schools only require a high school diploma and whatever an EEC ever entails (I think it’s a few classes?). They are typically paid minimum wage. Many are wonderful but it doesn’t shock me when they end up with people who abuse the children. The pay is absolute crap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Out of more than 20,000 teaching positions and how many other staff, 91 is not a lot.

You’re acting as if they started out with 20,000 vacancies. If that were the case, then being down to 91 wouldn’t be bad BUT most this close to the start of school it is bad. AND we’re talking virtual. Imagine if this were in person.

Again, there are NOT 91 open positions. They are collecting resumes for 91 different job descriptions. There are more than 91 open positions.

[Anonymous]

I was at a baby shower almost two years ago with a roomful of teachers, and when a relative of the baby’s mother suggested that the baby might grow up to be a teacher, virtually every teacher in the room spontaneously said, “Oh, no!” These were almost all excellent elementary teachers, considered to be among the best in the school. It was a very sad to thing to witness, although I was one who agreed with the group. It’s a complex issue with a lot of factors. It is not an easy job. If you haven’t been there, you really would have trouble understanding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is what we wanted right for teachers to quit. Well they are and more will next year too. Who wants to put up with being bashed, the headaches that come with DL all for low pay?

Yep. The loudmouths should be celebrating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s laughable to me because we have states like Virginia and Arizona that can’t even fill vacancies with certified staff, so they take any warm body once they assign all certified applicants to a position.

Then we have states like MA, NY, CT, PA, much of the northeast where there are far more certified teachers than there are applicants. They get tenure and don’t leave. They have unions to help them get salaries that correlate better with the cost of living. There is more respect because they seek candidates with classroom teaching experience and dual or tri certifications. I’m from MA and even Concord which is mostly white says they what diverse candidates on the job post for a long term sub job... Boston also wants diverse candidates and bilingual ones who are certified in their subject of choice and ELL and SPeD. It’s VERY competitive to get a job even to long term sub in MA. A lot of people from my college couldn’t make it on sub or aide pay in MA and left for office jobs. I know people waiting for their school to finally hire them to teach but they’ve been an aide or sub for several years which pays around $20k. They’re married and seem okay with no making much on their own, but that didn’t appeal to me. I was recruited to teach for FCPS while in Boston...

What I don’t understand is why don’t the states that have trouble attracting teaching applicants make changes to be more like the states that have surpluses of candidates for every opening? People would prefer to teach in certain areas for certain reasons.

Just pass along the virtual job fair thing to people in northeast states and maybe you’ll find someone... but most people I know would rather leave teaching or make $20k as an aide back home before moving. I don’t blame them because moving alone was emotionally a lot for me. I plan to leave teaching when the economy improves so I can live near my family and make a livable wage.

Have you even looked at the requirements and hoops they want you to jump through in order to apply? I fit into one of their categories for Application for a VA License to teach--there aren't many. (I'm a veteran). I have 20+ yrs of experience outside of the military and teaching experience, and I could teach in any number of the open positions. They make applying such a pita that I really wouldn't bother. Better to just go private.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is it true they will take any warm body without even a degree and give them a special ed teaching license?

Yes! You know that homeless guy who hangs out in front of CVS? On the little bench out front?

He is managing your child’s IEP this year. Congratulations!