NYU

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting thread My DC (currently a sophomore) has their heart set on NYU. Won't have the stats to get into Columbia, and quite possibly not NYU either. We have a good amount of $$ saved, but not enough for four years of full-pay there.

My kid loves NYC more than anything in the world. I have been researching (and gently suggesting DC consider) other NYC options, including Fordham, The New School, and CUNY-Hunter.

I wouldn’t recommend Fordham without a visit first. Don’t let the NYC address fool you. It’s in one of the roughest areas of the Bronx and it can take well over an hour on trains to get into midtown manhattan from there.

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Anonymous wrote:In this thread: State school parents who can't afford NYU, nearly all of which have never stepped foot on campus.

What campus?

Exactly.

I think it depends on your perspective and your child’s’.

I wanted my children to have the four year residential college experience so I’m not a fan of NYU for undergrad. I would support my children attending for grad school as at that level they do seem to have legitimate top tier programs and living in NYC for grad school is a natural progression from living in a true undergrad residential campus environment.

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Anonymous wrote:NYU professor here. One thing to know, as some PPs have alluded to, is that students apply to individual schools within NYU. These schools function almost wholly independently. It's hard to speak broadly across NYU, as each individual school has its own micro culture.

How does changing majors work?

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting thread My DC (currently a sophomore) has their heart set on NYU. Won't have the stats to get into Columbia, and quite possibly not NYU either. We have a good amount of $$ saved, but not enough for four years of full-pay there.

My kid loves NYC more than anything in the world. I have been researching (and gently suggesting DC consider) other NYC options, including Fordham, The New School, and CUNY-Hunter.

I wouldn’t recommend Fordham without a visit first. Don’t let the NYC address fool you. It’s in one of the roughest areas of the Bronx and it can take well over an hour on trains to get into midtown manhattan from there.

Fordham has two campuses: Lincoln Center and Rose Hill. The Lincoln Center campus is in Manhattan and very much part of the city.

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Anonymous wrote:NYU professor here. One thing to know, as some PPs have alluded to, is that students apply to individual schools within NYU. These schools function almost wholly independently. It's hard to speak broadly across NYU, as each individual school has its own micro culture.

How does changing majors work?

You apply. Most are straight forward but some require perquisites. For example Tisch does not require math while stern has very specific math requirements. Also schools have different acceptance levels and gpa/SAT ranges. Stern has an 8% acceptance rate while NYU had a 15% acceptance rate overall.

FYI The students consider WASHINGTON Square their campus and the entire area is very NYU focused. It’s just an open campus.

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Anonymous wrote:NYU professor here. One thing to know, as some PPs have alluded to, is that students apply to individual schools within NYU. These schools function almost wholly independently. It's hard to speak broadly across NYU, as each individual school has its own micro culture.

How does changing majors work?

You apply. Most are straight forward but some require perquisites. For example Tisch does not require math while stern has very specific math requirements. Also schools have different acceptance levels and gpa/SAT ranges. Stern has an 8% acceptance rate while NYU had a 15% acceptance rate overall.

FYI The students consider WASHINGTON Square their campus and the entire area is very NYU focused. It’s just an open campus.

NYU has been buying up the Village. Walk around Washington Square and you see mostly NYU banners hanging from builidngs. I went to Stern for an MBA but my sister went undergrad. She fits the type who does well there - very urban oriented, self assured, takes advantage of every opportunity, driven.

History - my father went there in the 50s under the GI Bill. Columbia has always been the big deal in NYC and always will. NYU was mostly a commuter school and the poor man's Columbia. CCNY was dirt cheap and another alternative. Right around the late 1970s is when NYU started sheddng the commuter school image. It has taken many years but in survey after survey, employers rate it highly and it has a high number of millionaire alumni. The endowment is nothing to brag about but that is also a a function of being a commuter school for so long. There president has been there a couple of years and appears much more people oriented than the ones before, who ran it mostly for the almighty dollar.

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Anonymous wrote:In this thread: State school parents who can't afford NYU, nearly all of which have never stepped foot on campus.

I don’t know why you are so threatened by the notion that NYU is not for everyone, and that there are some very real considerations one must make before deciding to attend there (much like any school). Oh, and that it’s expensive and the financial aid sucks. It has nothing to do with state schools — both of my kids are at privates.

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Anonymous wrote:In this thread: State school parents who can't afford NYU, nearly all of which have never stepped foot on campus.

I don’t know why you are so threatened by the notion that NYU is not for everyone, and that there are some very real considerations one must make before deciding to attend there (much like any school). Oh, and that it’s expensive and the financial aid sucks. It has nothing to do with state schools — both of my kids are at privates.

PP I am new poster. I think all the top schools that are private cost about the same and have a lot of rich kids. I also think the rich kids self segregate are most schools. Is it being in NY that makes you perceive NYU as so expensive?? The NYU jet set is with kids at top schools from other cities doing the same activities so I am confused? I don’t know that a kid in Boston, LA or philly (whatever city) is spending less.

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Anonymous wrote:In this thread: State school parents who can't afford NYU, nearly all of which have never stepped foot on campus.

I don’t know why you are so threatened by the notion that NYU is not for everyone, and that there are some very real considerations one must make before deciding to attend there (much like any school). Oh, and that it’s expensive and the financial aid sucks. It has nothing to do with state schools — both of my kids are at privates.

PP I am new poster. I think all the top schools that are private cost about the same and have a lot of rich kids. I also think the rich kids self segregate are most schools. Is it being in NY that makes you perceive NYU as so expensive?? The NYU jet set is with kids at top schools from other cities doing the same activities so I am confused? I don’t know that a kid in Boston, LA or philly (whatever city) is spending less.

Yes, being in NY is incredibly expensive and the fact that NYU’s endowment is tiny compared to other schools of similar cost so the financial aid is poor so it is very hard for middle to upper middle class students to attend.

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Anonymous wrote:In this thread: State school parents who can't afford NYU, nearly all of which have never stepped foot on campus.

I don’t know why you are so threatened by the notion that NYU is not for everyone, and that there are some very real considerations one must make before deciding to attend there (much like any school). Oh, and that it’s expensive and the financial aid sucks. It has nothing to do with state schools — both of my kids are at privates.

PP I am new poster. I think all the top schools that are private cost about the same and have a lot of rich kids. I also think the rich kids self segregate are most schools. Is it being in NY that makes you perceive NYU as so expensive?? The NYU jet set is with kids at top schools from other cities doing the same activities so I am confused? I don’t know that a kid in Boston, LA or philly (whatever city) is spending less.

Yes, being in NY is incredibly expensive and the fact that NYU’s endowment is tiny compared to other schools of similar cost so the financial aid is poor so it is very hard for middle to upper middle class students to attend.

I did not see an appreciable difference having kids at different schools in other major cities. They all spent a lot but we are not on aid so maybe it would have been different if we were in aid.

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Anonymous wrote:In this thread: State school parents who can't afford NYU, nearly all of which have never stepped foot on campus.

I don’t know why you are so threatened by the notion that NYU is not for everyone, and that there are some very real considerations one must make before deciding to attend there (much like any school). Oh, and that it’s expensive and the financial aid sucks. It has nothing to do with state schools — both of my kids are at privates.

PP I am new poster. I think all the top schools that are private cost about the same and have a lot of rich kids. I also think the rich kids self segregate are most schools. Is it being in NY that makes you perceive NYU as so expensive?? The NYU jet set is with kids at top schools from other cities doing the same activities so I am confused? I don’t know that a kid in Boston, LA or philly (whatever city) is spending less.

Yes, being in NY is incredibly expensive and the fact that NYU’s endowment is tiny compared to other schools of similar cost so the financial aid is poor so it is very hard for middle to upper middle class students to attend.

I did not see an appreciable difference having kids at different schools in other major cities. They all spent a lot but we are not on aid so maybe it would have been different if we were in aid.

Interesting. I have one at Barnard and one at Penn and the difference is pretty stark.

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Anonymous wrote:In this thread: State school parents who can't afford NYU, nearly all of which have never stepped foot on campus.

I don’t know why you are so threatened by the notion that NYU is not for everyone, and that there are some very real considerations one must make before deciding to attend there (much like any school). Oh, and that it’s expensive and the financial aid sucks. It has nothing to do with state schools — both of my kids are at privates.

PP I am new poster. I think all the top schools that are private cost about the same and have a lot of rich kids. I also think the rich kids self segregate are most schools. Is it being in NY that makes you perceive NYU as so expensive?? The NYU jet set is with kids at top schools from other cities doing the same activities so I am confused? I don’t know that a kid in Boston, LA or philly (whatever city) is spending less.

Yes, being in NY is incredibly expensive and the fact that NYU’s endowment is tiny compared to other schools of similar cost so the financial aid is poor so it is very hard for middle to upper middle class students to attend.

I did not see an appreciable difference having kids at different schools in other major cities. They all spent a lot but we are not on aid so maybe it would have been different if we were in aid.

Interesting. I have one at Barnard and one at Penn and the difference is pretty stark.

How so? I'd be interested in hearing.

Barnard is in the city, so it's expensive. But kids at Penn are unbelievably wealthy and it's hard for a middle class kid to keep up with that crowd.

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I am really interested in hearing more about NYU from those with kids already there. My kid was accepted and is leaning there over his other choices. Will start in the Core program, with small classes and the option to transfer to almost any other program - he is interested in the BA in CS and Math right now, but that may change, of course.

DS is an introvert and very intellectual (he is easily turned off by the usual things that teen boys joke and talk about.) He is comfortable being alone, But I think if he found his group there, it would be good. DS has been pretty much sheltered and DH thinks NYC would be a great opportunity to force DS to mature, but in a somewhat controlled environment without any financial worry.

My vision was always for him to attend a "traditional" college, but he doesn't really care either way. My thoughts go to logistics of drop off and parents weekend, because that is what I am used to. DS is just excited to start his next chapter.

We are verylucky in that finances are not an issue for us at all, which makes the decision even harder.

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Anonymous wrote:In this thread: State school parents who can't afford NYU, nearly all of which have never stepped foot on campus.

I don’t know why you are so threatened by the notion that NYU is not for everyone, and that there are some very real considerations one must make before deciding to attend there (much like any school). Oh, and that it’s expensive and the financial aid sucks. It has nothing to do with state schools — both of my kids are at privates.

PP I am new poster. I think all the top schools that are private cost about the same and have a lot of rich kids. I also think the rich kids self segregate are most schools. Is it being in NY that makes you perceive NYU as so expensive?? The NYU jet set is with kids at top schools from other cities doing the same activities so I am confused? I don’t know that a kid in Boston, LA or philly (whatever city) is spending less.

Yes, being in NY is incredibly expensive and the fact that NYU’s endowment is tiny compared to other schools of similar cost so the financial aid is poor so it is very hard for middle to upper middle class students to attend.

I did not see an appreciable difference having kids at different schools in other major cities. They all spent a lot but we are not on aid so maybe it would have been different if we were in aid.

Interesting. I have one at Barnard and one at Penn and the difference is pretty stark.

How so? I'd be interested in hearing.

Barnard is in the city, so it's expensive. But kids at Penn are unbelievably wealthy and it's hard for a middle class kid to keep up with that crowd.

NP. Both Penn and NYU have a lot of wealthy kids but financial aid is way more extensive at Penn (NYU’s is widely regarded as being super paltry) so there is much more socioeconomic diversity and more middle class kids can attend.

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[phone]:50! Our EFC is $35K and we pay $29K/year at Penn. DD also got into NYU and she got $11k/year and loans. So we would’ve been paying about $68K. It’s insane.