PARCC scores for at-risk kids at ITDS?

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Anonymous wrote:So, a lot of states have done away with these types of tests. Because we know it doesn't show what a kids actually knows, thinking skills and so forth. It tells you mostly how well kids can test, what they memorize and spit back out, and has a bunch of social and economic bias. Unless kids are prepared specifically with tools to over come those limits and bias on the test.

This is a cop-out.

When our "non-brown" child was at ITDS, we did no preparations for the test, other than trying to ensure that DC got a good night sleep and some form of breakfast. And DC consistently got 5s in both categories. What we did do was read to DC daily in the early years and discuss complicated concepts and ideas, plus limit useless screen time.

The main reason we left in middle school is the stark delta between "white" and "brown" performance, together with the sense that the school emphasized building identify-group self-esteem over teaching hard skills and critical thinking.

There is definitely a disparity in the experiences of students of color and other students at ITS, which is unfortunate and surprising for a school that wears its SJW badge so proudly. Not for every student and not as pronounced for girls, but it's definitely there, not just in performance but also in discipline and culture. We aren't the only family who left because our experience was so different - and not in a good way - from those of our non-brown friends.

If you're Caucasian and upper middle class, your child will probably be fine at ITS and pretty much anywhere. If you have a student of color, especially a boy, be alert.

We have a black boy that has thrived at ITS. I wish you wouldn’t spread stories like this. Did you ever think that maybe the problem Children you mentioned happened to be brown? In our grade, the “problem” children happen to be white. There are always going to be children that require a lot of support along with family cooperation. I’d refrain from making generalizations about an entire school unless you have facts vs hearsay. FWIW my son’s black middle school peers have been accepted to Walls, Banneker, and several high demand private schools.

Your post makes no sense. The previous poster is not talking about what races are problem child. He is talking about the inherent bias of teachers in targeting and disciplining brown kids more than white, especially boys. You know this exists and what the previous poster is saying from their own experience.

It may exist but PP is taking her experience and extrapolating it for an entire school. I suspect I know who the PP is. There are extremely misbehaved kids of all colors. Just because your kid is getting disciplined, does not mean they are getting disciplined because they are black. As a black mom, one has to take comfort in knowing that problem children are addressed evenly and kids that are physically violent are dealt with. It has been my experience that ITS has been a little too liberal when it comes to this. I am all for restorative justice, but I have seen kids (of all colors) continue to act out physically and it takes a toll.

I do have an issue with the disparity of black/white scores. Especially when many of my black peers at the school are middle to upper middle class. If there’s anything I’d want the school to improve on it would be that. I just don’t see the uneven discipline that PP is referring to. Some people don’t want to come to terms that they have a difficult child. It’s my belief that some actions by parents condone some poor behavior as they’re always blaming the school despite many valid attempts to help. Children are smart and they know how to play these situations. I’ve seen to before in the classroom. Kids come back into the classroom emboldened and seeming untouchable because their parents have condoned their behavior is some respect.

It’s not 1 black family’s experience above. There have been many posts about this concern towards disciplining and targeting black kids.

And I can show you 3 white kids that have also had continuous discipline issues.

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Anonymous wrote:So, a lot of states have done away with these types of tests. Because we know it doesn't show what a kids actually knows, thinking skills and so forth. It tells you mostly how well kids can test, what they memorize and spit back out, and has a bunch of social and economic bias. Unless kids are prepared specifically with tools to over come those limits and bias on the test.

This is a cop-out.

When our "non-brown" child was at ITDS, we did no preparations for the test, other than trying to ensure that DC got a good night sleep and some form of breakfast. And DC consistently got 5s in both categories. What we did do was read to DC daily in the early years and discuss complicated concepts and ideas, plus limit useless screen time.

The main reason we left in middle school is the stark delta between "white" and "brown" performance, together with the sense that the school emphasized building identify-group self-esteem over teaching hard skills and critical thinking.

There is definitely a disparity in the experiences of students of color and other students at ITS, which is unfortunate and surprising for a school that wears its SJW badge so proudly. Not for every student and not as pronounced for girls, but it's definitely there, not just in performance but also in discipline and culture. We aren't the only family who left because our experience was so different - and not in a good way - from those of our non-brown friends.

If you're Caucasian and upper middle class, your child will probably be fine at ITS and pretty much anywhere. If you have a student of color, especially a boy, be alert.

We have a black boy that has thrived at ITS. I wish you wouldn’t spread stories like this. Did you ever think that maybe the problem Children you mentioned happened to be brown? In our grade, the “problem” children happen to be white. There are always going to be children that require a lot of support along with family cooperation. I’d refrain from making generalizations about an entire school unless you have facts vs hearsay. FWIW my son’s black middle school peers have been accepted to Walls, Banneker, and several high demand private schools.

Your post makes no sense. The previous poster is not talking about what races are problem child. He is talking about the inherent bias of teachers in targeting and disciplining brown kids more than white, especially boys. You know this exists and what the previous poster is saying from their own experience.

It may exist but PP is taking her experience and extrapolating it for an entire school. I suspect I know who the PP is. There are extremely misbehaved kids of all colors. Just because your kid is getting disciplined, does not mean they are getting disciplined because they are black. As a black mom, one has to take comfort in knowing that problem children are addressed evenly and kids that are physically violent are dealt with. It has been my experience that ITS has been a little too liberal when it comes to this. I am all for restorative justice, but I have seen kids (of all colors) continue to act out physically and it takes a toll.

I do have an issue with the disparity of black/white scores. Especially when many of my black peers at the school are middle to upper middle class. If there’s anything I’d want the school to improve on it would be that. I just don’t see the uneven discipline that PP is referring to. Some people don’t want to come to terms that they have a difficult child. It’s my belief that some actions by parents condone some poor behavior as they’re always blaming the school despite many valid attempts to help. Children are smart and they know how to play these situations. I’ve seen to before in the classroom. Kids come back into the classroom emboldened and seeming untouchable because their parents have condoned their behavior is some respect.

It’s not 1 black family’s experience above. There have been many posts about this concern towards disciplining and targeting black kids.

And I can show you 3 white kids that have also had continuous discipline issues.

Don’t see any white parents on this board from ITDS complaining about it but OK.

Strong schools acknowledges their weaknesses and improves on it. But if you want to accept the attitude of denial or let’s move on, you are just like administration with their take it like it is or leave it.

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Gin what grades ares these differences being noticed?

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Discipline is definitely an area that has needed some new leadership for quite some time, and now it looks like we are getting it, so that is hopefully a positive change.