Why is Cleveland Park fully plowed and Ward 1 streets still covered in snow?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Um, I live in N. Cleveland Park and our street hasn't been touched. The only plowed streets are commuter roads and school roads, and even most of those are just one lane.

Nice pot stirring though!

What street do you live on, PP ?

Here is what I saw las night in Cleveland Park:

Macomb st hill is plowed and salted to the bone as is Reno/ 34th, Porter, Newark, Ordway, 35th st AND all of their sidewalks cleared by a snow blower

I assume you have to refer to your neighborhood as " North Cleveland Park" for a reason

I can see Reno/34th and Macomb being priorities, but it's not like Newark, 35th or Ordway are major streets at all.

DC doesn't clear sidewalks, and they certainly don't use snowblowers. That must be adjacent property owners.

These are definitely tertiary streets, so it's hard to figure why they would be priorities for multiple plowing when other streets are untouched.

[Anonymous]

Weird, I live in Ward 5, and my street and surrounding streets have been plowed. Yippee. We, the people in the neighborhood cleaned our own sidewalks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Um, I live in N. Cleveland Park and our street hasn't been touched. The only plowed streets are commuter roads and school roads, and even most of those are just one lane.

Nice pot stirring though!

What street do you live on, PP ?

Here is what I saw las night in Cleveland Park:

Macomb st hill is plowed and salted to the bone as is Reno/ 34th, Porter, Newark, Ordway, 35th st AND all of their sidewalks cleared by a snow blower

I assume you have to refer to your neighborhood as " North Cleveland Park" for a reason

OK, so the commuter roads and three other streets that lead to schools, so you were overstating it when you said "Cleveland Park is fully plowed."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not a DC resident, so I could be wrong, but in Maryland, sidewalks are the responsibility of the property owners -- not the city or the state govt.

So if they're sidewalks are dusted to perfection, it's probably because those business and property owners paid out of pocket to have that done. I don't think the city does that.

Am I wrong? And DC residents? I'm curious because I work in DC, and I was wondering what to expect as far as sidewalks are concerned. I figured it would be a mixed bag because it is up to property owners.

What the city can do is fine heavily property owners that don't clear their sidewalks. But I can't see how that would logistically happen immediately after a storm (i.e., I can't imagine the city sending out code people to issue citations on the Monday after a blizzard).

In our Ward 3 neighborhood (not Clev. Park) we had to pay private contractors to clean the back alleys and secondary streets yesterday. OP might consider mobilizing neighbors and paying contractors rather than bitching about Cleveland Park

DC seldom, if ever, clears the alleys anywhere - which can be a problem is that's where your trash and recycling is collected.

I'm not " bitching about CP" , PP, I do however bet that if your child or parent or husband needed emergency medical care, you'd want to be able to go to a hospital that was stafffed with enough nurses and doctors to care for them and those nurses live in neighborhoods of DC that have not been plowed. Many of them might work in FFX and can't walk to work or take a bus.

Similarly, I assume you want your ward police station fully staffed. Have you considered that the cops who patrol your neighborhood , don't live there and need the streets to be cleared so that they can get to work.

IF CP residents can afford to hire contractors, good for them, but they should not have to. The city should be doing it, but on a priority basis , based on , wait for it, where essential workers live, not where teh political influence lives.

I doubt that a lobbyist in CP is going to be able to cardiovert you husband if he has an MI.

OP, instead of bitching left and right, why don't you either a) call 311 or b) learn from what multiple people here have said, and mobilize your neighbors

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Um, I live in N. Cleveland Park and our street hasn't been touched. The only plowed streets are commuter roads and school roads, and even most of those are just one lane.

Nice pot stirring though!

What street do you live on, PP ?

Here is what I saw las night in Cleveland Park:

Macomb st hill is plowed and salted to the bone as is Reno/ 34th, Porter, Newark, Ordway, 35th st AND all of their sidewalks cleared by a snow blower

I assume you have to refer to your neighborhood as " North Cleveland Park" for a reason

OK, so the commuter roads and three other streets that lead to schools, so you were overstating it when you said "Cleveland Park is fully plowed."

That is the bulk of Cleveland Park and you know it , PP. Shall we fly the drone over CP today and post it on you tube ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not a DC resident, so I could be wrong, but in Maryland, sidewalks are the responsibility of the property owners -- not the city or the state govt.

So if they're sidewalks are dusted to perfection, it's probably because those business and property owners paid out of pocket to have that done. I don't think the city does that.

Am I wrong? And DC residents? I'm curious because I work in DC, and I was wondering what to expect as far as sidewalks are concerned. I figured it would be a mixed bag because it is up to property owners.

What the city can do is fine heavily property owners that don't clear their sidewalks. But I can't see how that would logistically happen immediately after a storm (i.e., I can't imagine the city sending out code people to issue citations on the Monday after a blizzard).

In our Ward 3 neighborhood (not Clev. Park) we had to pay private contractors to clean the back alleys and secondary streets yesterday. OP might consider mobilizing neighbors and paying contractors rather than bitching about Cleveland Park

DC seldom, if ever, clears the alleys anywhere - which can be a problem is that's where your trash and recycling is collected.

I'm not " bitching about CP" , PP, I do however bet that if your child or parent or husband needed emergency medical care, you'd want to be able to go to a hospital that was stafffed with enough nurses and doctors to care for them and those nurses live in neighborhoods of DC that have not been plowed. Many of them might work in FFX and can't walk to work or take a bus.

Similarly, I assume you want your ward police station fully staffed. Have you considered that the cops who patrol your neighborhood , don't live there and need the streets to be cleared so that they can get to work.

IF CP residents can afford to hire contractors, good for them, but they should not have to. The city should be doing it, but on a priority basis , based on , wait for it, where essential workers live, not where teh political influence lives.

I doubt that a lobbyist in CP is going to be able to cardiovert you husband if he has an MI.

OP, instead of bitching left and right, why don't you either a) call 311 or b) learn from what multiple people here have said, and mobilize your neighbors

try calling 311 , PP. you will get a recording referencing trash pick up.

We have contacted our council member and the director of DDOT and did so yesterday. No reposne.

so we will try publicity

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Um, I live in N. Cleveland Park and our street hasn't been touched. The only plowed streets are commuter roads and school roads, and even most of those are just one lane.

Nice pot stirring though!

What street do you live on, PP ?

Here is what I saw las night in Cleveland Park:

Macomb st hill is plowed and salted to the bone as is Reno/ 34th, Porter, Newark, Ordway, 35th st AND all of their sidewalks cleared by a snow blower

I assume you have to refer to your neighborhood as " North Cleveland Park" for a reason

OK, so the commuter roads and three other streets that lead to schools, so you were overstating it when you said "Cleveland Park is fully plowed."

If there are schools on Ordway, Newark, 35th Sts., that's news! Porter and Macomb are more major streets admittedly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Um, I live in N. Cleveland Park and our street hasn't been touched. The only plowed streets are commuter roads and school roads, and even most of those are just one lane.

Nice pot stirring though!

What street do you live on, PP ?

Here is what I saw las night in Cleveland Park:

Macomb st hill is plowed and salted to the bone as is Reno/ 34th, Porter, Newark, Ordway, 35th st AND all of their sidewalks cleared by a snow blower

I assume you have to refer to your neighborhood as " North Cleveland Park" for a reason

OK, so the commuter roads and three other streets that lead to schools, so you were overstating it when you said "Cleveland Park is fully plowed."

That is the bulk of Cleveland Park and you know it , PP. Shall we fly the drone over CP today and post it on you tube ?

If you fly a drone anywhere in DC, you may get arrested. :)

[Anonymous]

Nope, ours is registered .

lets' get back to the topic.

Hey Ward 1 : if your street is still burried under snow, post your street name and photos if you have it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: so why are most of these essential workers being left snowed in while Ward 3 is plowed and dusted to perfection ?

Because we're delightful!

[Anonymous]

Sidewalks being cleared are the responsibility of the property owner, not the government.

When I lived in Cleveland park, people from other parts of the city would take the bus in and knock on doors offering to shovel snow for pay. It's easy to find someone to shovel your walk if you live in cp.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nope, ours is registered .

lets' get back to the topic.

Hey Ward 1 : if your street is still burried under snow, post your street name and photos if you have it

"DC is a no drone zone."

https://www.faa.gov/uas/no_drone_zone/dc/

But they'd still have to get through your snowy streets to issue you a citation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Um, I live in N. Cleveland Park and our street hasn't been touched. The only plowed streets are commuter roads and school roads, and even most of those are just one lane.

Nice pot stirring though!

What street do you live on, PP ?

Here is what I saw las night in Cleveland Park:

Macomb st hill is plowed and salted to the bone as is Reno/ 34th, Porter, Newark, Ordway, 35th st AND all of their sidewalks cleared by a snow blower

I assume you have to refer to your neighborhood as " North Cleveland Park" for a reason

She means Tenleytown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Um, I live in N. Cleveland Park and our street hasn't been touched. The only plowed streets are commuter roads and school roads, and even most of those are just one lane.

Nice pot stirring though!

What street do you live on, PP ?

Here is what I saw las night in Cleveland Park:

Macomb st hill is plowed and salted to the bone as is Reno/ 34th, Porter, Newark, Ordway, 35th st AND all of their sidewalks cleared by a snow blower

I assume you have to refer to your neighborhood as " North Cleveland Park" for a reason

OK, so the commuter roads and three other streets that lead to schools, so you were overstating it when you said "Cleveland Park is fully plowed."

If there are schools on Ordway, Newark, 35th Sts., that's news! Porter and Macomb are more major streets admittedly.

Which streets don't get cleared, which get cleared somewhat and which get cleared well seems rather random.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Um, I live in N. Cleveland Park and our street hasn't been touched. The only plowed streets are commuter roads and school roads, and even most of those are just one lane.

Nice pot stirring though!

What street do you live on, PP ?

Here is what I saw las night in Cleveland Park:

Macomb st hill is plowed and salted to the bone as is Reno/ 34th, Porter, Newark, Ordway, 35th st AND all of their sidewalks cleared by a snow blower

I assume you have to refer to your neighborhood as " North Cleveland Park" for a reason

She means Tenleytown.

or "Greater Van Ness"