Princeton eating clubs in the news

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Anonymous wrote:Coed or not, I don't get how you work your ass of in high school and go through a rigorous and selective admissions application process, to then have to "interview" for a decent place to eat, study and socialize.

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You don't have to "interview" for a decent place to eat, study and socialize. Plenty of other "decent' places to eat, study, and socialize" on the campus that have a more relaxed atmosphere and less of the country club vibe.

Oh, I get it. Separate but equal.

No, not really. Plenty of Princeton students opt for the sign-in clubs, a dining hall option (often if they are an RA) or to go independent because they are choosing an environment that is a better fit for them, though any given student is free to choose the bicker route. And the clubs do serve a purpose of providing a social scene on campus, as well as providing a sized grouping of people that is psychologically easier to manage. The University provides that freshman and sophomore year by grouping students into residential colleges, but upperclass housing is a separate free for all, so club membership can serve to replace that.

Which isn't to say that there aren't issues with bicker and the club system, there are, but like most issues this is more nuanced than it may at first appear.

Of course, Princeton could easily continue residential colleges into junior and senior year.

It could, but the moment probably has passed for Princeton to build a lot of student dormitories around the residential college concept. If it ever went to four-year residential colleges, it would highlight how they don't quite have the same distinct identities as the residential colleges at Yale, which went on a building spree after it had embraced the concept.

So, like them or not, the eating clubs remain part of what differentiates Princeton from other schools. As far as I'm aware, TI and Cottage have always been the rowdy ones.

....which used to be called "Frottage Club" back in the day.

Some things I'd just as soon not know about.

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"Frottage", had to look that one up.

[Anonymous]

I don't understand, as the newspaper reported, why the police are waiting for the woman in the picture to complain before they prosecute these guys. The people who received the picture were wronged, and its a criminal code violation.
I am so glad my child chose not to accept Princeton's offer. Very degrading atmosphere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand, as the newspaper reported, why the police are waiting for the woman in the picture to complain before they prosecute these guys. The people who received the picture were wronged, and its a criminal code violation.
I am so glad my child chose not to accept Princeton's offer. Very degrading atmosphere.

So true. Princeton women can't accomplish anything in that atmosphere. Just ask Meg Whitman, Lisa Belkin, Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan, Beth Wilkinson, etc.

[Anonymous]

Meg Whitman's son was in the newspapers for attacking a girl at Princeton. I know Whitman has given them a lot of money. Your point?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Meg Whitman's son was in the newspapers for attacking a girl at Princeton. I know Whitman has given them a lot of money. Your point?

Plenty of women went there who did fine and will achieve far more than you ever will.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand, as the newspaper reported, why the police are waiting for the woman in the picture to complain before they prosecute these guys. The people who received the picture were wronged, and its a criminal code violation.
I am so glad my child chose not to accept Princeton's offer. Very degrading atmosphere.

So true. Princeton women can't accomplish anything in that atmosphere. Just ask Meg Whitman, Lisa Belkin, Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan, Beth Wilkinson, etc.

Michelle Obama

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand, as the newspaper reported, why the police are waiting for the woman in the picture to complain before they prosecute these guys. The people who received the picture were wronged, and its a criminal code violation.
I am so glad my child chose not to accept Princeton's offer. Very degrading atmosphere.

Best not to have your kids apply there....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand, as the newspaper reported, why the police are waiting for the woman in the picture to complain before they prosecute these guys. The people who received the picture were wronged, and its a criminal code violation.
I am so glad my child chose not to accept Princeton's offer. Very degrading atmosphere.

So true. Princeton women can't accomplish anything in that atmosphere. Just ask Meg Whitman, Lisa Belkin, Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan, Beth Wilkinson, etc.

Michelle Obama

And she hated it there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Coed or not, I don't get how you work your ass of in high school and go through a rigorous and selective admissions application process, to then have to "interview" for a decent place to eat, study and socialize.

I agree and wonder what the point of these "eating clubs" (ridiculous name, BTW) is. Why not just have a huge dining hall where everyone goes to eat, socialize, etc., and then parties in various dorms/apts.? I went to a school with no Greek system, eating clubs, etc. and that's how we did it. Everyone partied together, ate together, etc. No problems and no elitism.

I think it's just an attempt to reinvent the frat system and make them more exclusive, less inclusive. They're tired of dealing with outsiders coming to their parties.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand, as the newspaper reported, why the police are waiting for the woman in the picture to complain before they prosecute these guys. The people who received the picture were wronged, and its a criminal code violation.
I am so glad my child chose not to accept Princeton's offer. Very degrading atmosphere.

So true. Princeton women can't accomplish anything in that atmosphere. Just ask Meg Whitman, Lisa Belkin, Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan, Beth Wilkinson, etc.

Michelle Obama

And she hated it there.

Did she really? She experienced culture shock there, like many students. But she sure didn't mind raising money from Princeton residents and alumni a few years ago.

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/09/michelle_obama_princeton_fundr.html

Close to 20% of Princeton's Board of Trustees is now African American, by the way: http://www.princeton.edu/vpsec/trustees/current/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand, as the newspaper reported, why the police are waiting for the woman in the picture to complain before they prosecute these guys. The people who received the picture were wronged, and its a criminal code violation.
I am so glad my child chose not to accept Princeton's offer. Very degrading atmosphere.

Best not to have your kids apply there....

+1. That may drive the admissions rate all the way up to 7.3% next year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand, as the newspaper reported, why the police are waiting for the woman in the picture to complain before they prosecute these guys. The people who received the picture were wronged, and its a criminal code violation.
I am so glad my child chose not to accept Princeton's offer. Very degrading atmosphere.

Best not to have your kids apply there....

+1. That may drive the admissions rate all the way up to 7.3% next year.

Excellent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand, as the newspaper reported, why the police are waiting for the woman in the picture to complain before they prosecute these guys. The people who received the picture were wronged, and its a criminal code violation.
I am so glad my child chose not to accept Princeton's offer. Very degrading atmosphere.

So true. Princeton women can't accomplish anything in that atmosphere. Just ask Meg Whitman, Lisa Belkin, Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan, Beth Wilkinson, etc.

Michelle Obama

And she hated it there.

Did she really? She experienced culture shock there, like many students. But she sure didn't mind raising money from Princeton residents and alumni a few years ago.

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/09/michelle_obama_princeton_fundr.html

Close to 20% of Princeton's Board of Trustees is now African American, by the way: http://www.princeton.edu/vpsec/trustees/current/

I believe she's never been to a reunion -- virtually unheard of for most Princeton alumni/ae.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand, as the newspaper reported, why the police are waiting for the woman in the picture to complain before they prosecute these guys. The people who received the picture were wronged, and its a criminal code violation.
I am so glad my child chose not to accept Princeton's offer. Very degrading atmosphere.

So true. Princeton women can't accomplish anything in that atmosphere. Just ask Meg Whitman, Lisa Belkin, Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan, Beth Wilkinson, etc.

Michelle Obama

And she hated it there.

Did she really? She experienced culture shock there, like many students. But she sure didn't mind raising money from Princeton residents and alumni a few years ago.

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/09/michelle_obama_princeton_fundr.html

Close to 20% of Princeton's Board of Trustees is now African American, by the way: http://www.princeton.edu/vpsec/trustees/current/

I believe she's never been to a reunion -- virtually unheard of for most Princeton alumni/ae.

Indeed. The true test will be if they give her an honorary degree, which so far they haven't.