FCPS Half Day Mondays

[Anonymous]

yeah, those whiny teachers. I mean, they hardly work with all of their time off and then, when they do go in, they only work 6 hours a day! What a dream job!

Having had 10 years of teaching experience around here, I find it funny that parents rag on teachers as whiny for wanting to have 2 hours a week to do the mountains of paperwork and reports, lesson planning, meetings, and trainings that are required. I mean, judging from some of the kids I've had it seems the parents can barely handle keeping 1 or 2 kids under control, much less 30, much less actually teach them something after developing social skills and setting standards for acceptable behavior.

When you want to bitch at a teacher, take your kid on a bad day, multiply it by 30, throw in some vomit, and ask....do I want this job? Cause it's pretty damn hard. I don't want spectacular pay...I do it because I love it. But I'd also like some respect, regardless of the fact that there may be some teachers out there who are whiny. It would be awesome if some parents could work their precious work schedules out to become even somewhat involved...hell, how about appear....at their child's school.

[Anonymous]

Try finding a job for those weeks in the summer. Tons of teachers apply to teach summer school but there aren't enough positions. It is extremely difficult to find a short-term summer job that pays what teaching pays. Teachers have bills 52 weeks a year just like everyone else. Some counties allow teachers to spread out their paychecks to cover the entire year but not my county. The fact that what I make qualifies my kids for free preschool in my county b/c I am low income irks me. I have as much education as lawyers (my Master's degree plus 30 credits beyond it) and my kids qualify for free preschool. They might even qualify for reduced or free lunch too. I'm not going to go there. Yes, teachers get their summers off. I stress every year to figure out how to finance it as do nearly all of the other teachers I work with at my school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:yeah, those whiny teachers. I mean, they hardly work with all of their time off and then, when they do go in, they only work 6 hours a day! What a dream job!

Having had 10 years of teaching experience around here, I find it funny that parents rag on teachers as whiny for wanting to have 2 hours a week to do the mountains of paperwork and reports, lesson planning, meetings, and trainings that are required.

I don't rag on teachers for wanting 2 hours a week. But when I hear teachers complain about all the work they do "after hours," I really want to say "get in line." I'm a salaried employee (and no, not a lawyer) and I worked an average of 60 hours a week last year. Yes, all year. And yes, that factors in vacation time.

Working beyond core hours is pretty much a given in the real world. We salaried employees that work those long hours are quite thankful to have a job.

Teachers may not like working "after hours" but it is the real world.

[Anonymous]

But how much do you get paid PP? Maybe the salary you earn makes all of the "extra hours" worth it. I work my butt off and can barely afford to live here. If I had the money to move, I would do so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Try finding a job for those weeks in the summer. Tons of teachers apply to teach summer school but there aren't enough positions. It is extremely difficult to find a short-term summer job that pays what teaching pays. Teachers have bills 52 weeks a year just like everyone else. Some counties allow teachers to spread out their paychecks to cover the entire year but not my county. The fact that what I make qualifies my kids for free preschool in my county b/c I am low income irks me. I have as much education as lawyers (my Master's degree plus 30 credits beyond it) and my kids qualify for free preschool. They might even qualify for reduced or free lunch too. I'm not going to go there. Yes, teachers get their summers off. I stress every year to figure out how to finance it as do nearly all of the other teachers I work with at my school.

Teachers get paid 1 full year salary for working 3/4 of the year. They get the entire summer off for that. If they want to work during the summer for more money, well, that's above and beyond, and above and beyond is not guaranteed.

[Anonymous]

Maybe in certain counties, they get paid for 12 months. In my county, teachers get paid for 10 months. Only administrators and other full year staff (grounds, maintenance and custodians, etc) get paid for 12 months.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But how much do you get paid PP?

I have two Masters degrees and 24 years experience in my field and I'm paid $83K per year. Compared to the FCPS teacher scale for a teacher with a MA plus 30 hour at step 22, I'm quite underpaid. (I also have not had a pay raise in two years.)

http://www.fcps.edu/DHR/salary/scalepdfs/fy11/FY11-194-day_teacher.pdf

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:But how much do you get paid PP?

I have two Masters degrees and 24 years experience in my field and I'm paid $83K per year. Compared to the FCPS teacher scale for a teacher with a MA plus 30 hour at step 22, I'm quite underpaid. (I also have not had a pay raise in two years.)

http://www.fcps.edu/DHR/salary/scalepdfs/fy11/FY11-194-day_teacher.pdf

Not all masters degrees are created equal. What are your degrees in?

[Anonymous]

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Not all masters degrees are created equal. What are your degrees in?

MS/MIS and MPP

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
Not all masters degrees are created equal. What are your degrees in?

MS/MIS and MPP

Hopefully you can lobby for a raise soon. Similar grad degrees and experience here and I'm at six-figures.

[Anonymous]

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Not all masters degrees are created equal. What are your degrees in?

MS/MIS and MPP

I don't see how MIS is related to MPP or how they enhance one another.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
Not all masters degrees are created equal. What are your degrees in?

MS/MIS and MPP

I don't see how MIS is related to MPP or how they enhance one another.

Pretty closely related in public administration circles. Could probably even be used at Gatehouse. : )

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Not all masters degrees are created equal. What are your degrees in?

MS/MIS and MPP

I don't see how MIS is related to MPP or how they enhance one another.

Pretty closely related in public administration circles. Could probably even be used at Gatehouse. : )

I guess it goes back to supply and demand.

Too many chiefs, not enough Indians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I guess it goes back to supply and demand.

Absolutely. There are lots of teachers out there looking for work.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

I guess it goes back to supply and demand.

Absolutely. There are lots of teachers out there looking for work.

And of course, low demand and high supply results in lower salary offerings.