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Black households in Prince George’s County, MD have significantly higher median incomes ($100,334)
than their counterparts in Montgomery County, MD ($89,362) PG also has less-wealthy white households and Asian households than MoCo. https://www.neilsberg.com/insights/prince-georges-county-md-median-household-income-by-race/ https://www.neilsberg.com/insights/montgomery-county-md-median-household-income-by-race/ With MCAP pass rates astoundingly low for almost every group almost everywhere, it's not a good metric for drawing fine distinctions. |
Given how much MCPS outperforms PGCPS in math among Black students in the lower grades, my guess is that a lot of the gap here is pushing too many MCPS kids into Algebra 1 in 7th when they're not ready, whereas PGCPS gives them another year or two to prepare and then (unsurprisingly) more of them succeed. (I wonder if this is partially due to the middle school magnet lottery process? Do all/most of the kids in the math lottery pool get placed in Pre-Algebra in 6th and then go on to Algebra 1 in 7th, whether they're ready or not?) |
Looking through the list of schools, it looks like it's still the same trend. Where students who take the Algebra I MCAP in high school have lower proficiency rates then students who take it in middle schools. So there are still some middle schools in PG County that have higher Algebra I proficiency rates then schools in MCPS. Such as Kenmoor (64.4) and Trask (63) having higher proficiency rates then Hoover (57.8) and Cabin John (55.3) In case you're trying to imply that students should be taking Algebra I in high school. The list of MCPS and PG county schools listed by proficiency rates in descending order is below: LEA Name--School--School Name--Assessment--Student Group--Tested Count--Proficient Count--Proficient Pct Prince George's--0104--Beltsville Academy--Algebra 1 --All Students--17--16--94.1 Prince George's--0509--Accokeek Academy--Algebra 1 --All Students--82--72--87.8 Montgomery--0428--Thomas W. Pyle Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--405--326--80.5 Prince George's--1814--Thomas G. Pullen--Algebra 1 --All Students--26--20--76.9 Prince George's--2141--Greenbelt Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--73--56--76.7 Prince George's--1015--Chesapeake Math and IT Public Charter--Algebra 1 --All Students--39--29--74.4 Prince George's--1416--Dora Kennedy French Immersion--Algebra 1 --All Students--30--21--70.0 Montgomery--0237--Robert Frost Middle School--Algebra 1 --All Students--262--177--67.6 Montgomery--0413--North Bethesda Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--276--181--65.6 Montgomery--0211--Julius West Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--309--199--64.4 Prince George's--1330--Kenmoor Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--59--38--64.4 Montgomery--0755--Takoma Park Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--273--170--62.3 Prince George's--1908--William Wirt Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--15--9--60.0 Prince George's--0714--Benjamin Tasker Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--63--37--58.7 Montgomery--0228--Herbert Hoover Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--275--159--57.8 Montgomery--0412--Westland Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--199--114--57.3 Prince George's--1350--Academy of Health Sciences at PGCC--Algebra 1 --All Students--128--73--57.0 Montgomery--0107--Martin Luther King Jr. Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--109--62--56.9 Montgomery--0345--Hallie Wells Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--249--139--55.8 Prince George's--1417--Robert Goddard Montessori--Algebra 1 --All Students--18--10--55.6 Montgomery--0606--Cabin John Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--304--168--55.3 Montgomery--0820--Earle B. Wood Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--156--85--54.5 Montgomery--0522--Lakelands Park Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--198--107--54.0 Montgomery--0247--John Poole Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--110--58--52.7 Montgomery--0792--Newport Mill Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--86--43--50.0 Montgomery--0835--Silver Creek Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--149--71--47.7 Prince George's--1602--Hyattsville Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--21--10--47.6 Montgomery--0333--Benjamin Banneker Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--43--20--46.5 Montgomery--0708--Kingsview Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--254--118--46.5 Montgomery--0775--Eastern Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--211--97--46.0 Prince George's--2011--Charles Carroll Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--17--7--41.2 Prince George's--0638--Benjamin D. Foulois Academy--Algebra 1 --All Students--22--9--40.9 Prince George's--2009--Thomas Johnson Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--57--23--40.4 Montgomery--0232--Tilden Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--281--109--38.8 Montgomery--0155--Rosa M. Parks Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--179--68--38.0 Montgomery--0647--Silver Spring International Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--145--54--37.2 Prince George's--0110--Martin Luther King, Jr. Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--30--11--36.7 Prince George's--1428--Samuel Ogle Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--60--22--36.7 Montgomery--0707--Rocky Hill Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--159--58--36.5 Montgomery--0778--Sligo Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--119--43--36.1 Prince George's--1718--Nicholas Orem Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--20--7--35.0 Montgomery--0705--John T. Baker Middle School--Algebra 1 --All Students--136--47--34.6 Montgomery--0157--Roberto W. Clemente Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--138--47--34.1 Montgomery--0562--Redland Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--114--37--32.5 Prince George's--0639--Maya Angelou French Immersion--Algebra 1 --All Students--22--7--31.8 Prince George's--1819--Walker Mill Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--48--15--31.3 Prince George's--1209--Oxon Hill High--Algebra 1 --All Students--43--13--30.2 Prince George's--1206--John Hanson Montessori--Algebra 1 --All Students--20--6--30.0 Montgomery--0507--William H. Farquhar Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--175--52--29.7 Montgomery--0554--Gaithersburg Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--88--25--28.4 Prince George's--1351--Chesapeake Math and IT South Public Charter--Algebra 1 --All Students--134--36--26.9 Montgomery--0105--Ridgeview Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--140--37--26.4 Montgomery--0812--Parkland Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--190--50--26.3 Montgomery--0818--Odessa Shannon Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--85--22--25.9 Prince George's--2142--College Park Academy--Algebra 1 --All Students--54--14--25.9 Prince George's--1010--Dwight D. Eisenhower Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--21--5--23.8 Montgomery--0335--Briggs Chaney Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--143--32--22.4 Montgomery--0602--Winston Churchill High--Algebra 1 --All Students--72--16--22.2 Prince George's--1220--Potomac High--Algebra 1 --All Students--32--7--21.9 Montgomery--0152--Poolesville High--Algebra 1 --All Students--53--11--20.8 Prince George's--1326--Kettering Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--83--14--16.9 Prince George's--0512--Colin L Powell Academy--Algebra 1 --All Students--60--10--16.7 Prince George's--1217--Crossland High--Algebra 1 --All Students--12--2--16.7 Montgomery--0115--Neelsville Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--103--17--16.5 Montgomery--0427--Walt Whitman High--Algebra 1 --All Students--103--17--16.5 Montgomery--0521--Shady Grove Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--93--15--16.1 Montgomery--0311--Francis Scott Key Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--89--14--15.7 Montgomery--0406--Bethesda-Chevy Chase High--Algebra 1 --All Students--193--29--15.0 Montgomery--0787--A. Mario Loiederman Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--133--20--15.0 Prince George's--1104--Gwynn Park Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--27--4--14.8 Prince George's--2108--Buck Lodge Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--88--13--14.8 Montgomery--0503--Sherwood High--Algebra 1 --All Students--141--19--13.5 Prince George's--0915--Stephen Decatur Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--38--5--13.2 Montgomery--0424--Walter Johnson High--Algebra 1 --All Students--190--22--11.6 Prince George's--1423--Bowie High--Algebra 1 --All Students--83--9--10.8 Montgomery--0757--Montgomery Blair High--Algebra 1 --All Students--393--41--10.4 Prince George's--1519--Dr. Henry A. Wise, Jr. High--Algebra 1 --All Students--80--8--10.0 Montgomery--0315--Paint Branch High--Algebra 1 --All Students--55--5--9.1 Prince George's--1348--Ernest Everett Just Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--22--2--9.1 Prince George's--2022--Online Campus Academy--Algebra 1 --All Students--11--1--9.1 Montgomery--0823--Argyle Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--297--25--8.4 Montgomery--0248--Forest Oak Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--88--7--8.0 Montgomery--0246--Northwest High--Algebra 1 --All Students--153--12--7.8 Prince George's--1510--James Madison Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--28--2--7.1 Montgomery--0798--Springbrook High--Algebra 1 --All Students--174--12--6.9 Prince George's--1502--Frederick Douglass High--Algebra 1 --All Students--59--4--6.8 Montgomery--0551--Gaithersburg High--Algebra 1 --All Students--437--27--6.2 Prince George's--1327--Charles Herbert Flowers High--Algebra 1 --All Students--65--4--6.2 Montgomery--0249--Clarksburg High--Algebra 1 --All Students--233--13--5.6 Prince George's--1008--Laurel High--Algebra 1 --All Students--90--5--5.6 Prince George's--2114--Eleanor Roosevelt High--Algebra 1 --All Students--54--3--5.6 Montgomery--0234--Thomas S. Wootton High--Algebra 1 --All Students--55--3--5.5 Montgomery--0701--Damascus High--Algebra 1 --All Students--148--8--5.4 Montgomery--0811--White Oak Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--259--14--5.4 Montgomery--0201--Richard Montgomery High--Algebra 1 --All Students--212--11--5.2 Montgomery--0789--Albert Einstein High--Algebra 1 --All Students--196--10--5.1 Montgomery--0104--Seneca Valley High--Algebra 1 --All Students--302--*--<= 5.0 Montgomery--0125--Quince Orchard High--Algebra 1 --All Students--230--*--<= 5.0 Montgomery--0230--Rockville High--Algebra 1 --All Students--35--*--<= 5.0 Montgomery--0321--James Hubert Blake High--Algebra 1 --All Students--74--*--<= 5.0 Montgomery--0510--Col. Zadok Magruder High--Algebra 1 --All Students--225--*--<= 5.0 Montgomery--0545--Watkins Mill High--Algebra 1 --All Students--137--*--<= 5.0 Montgomery--0557--Montgomery Village Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--42--*--<= 5.0 Montgomery--0782--Wheaton High--Algebra 1 --All Students--279--*--<= 5.0 Montgomery--0796--Northwood High--Algebra 1 --All Students--215--*--<= 5.0 Montgomery--0815--John F. Kennedy High--Algebra 1 --All Students--323--*--<= 5.0 Montgomery--0965--John L Gildner Regional Inst for Children & Adol--Algebra 1 --All Students--13--*--<= 5.0 Prince George's--0102--High Point High--Algebra 1 --All Students--289--*--<= 5.0 Prince George's--0208--Bladensburg High--Algebra 1 --All Students--103--*--<= 5.0 Prince George's--0303--Non-Traditional Program South--Algebra 1 --All Students--20--*--<= 5.0 Prince George's--0511--Friendly High--Algebra 1 --All Students--51--*--<= 5.0 Prince George's--0603--Suitland High--Algebra 1 --All Students--92--*--<= 5.0 Prince George's--0615--Benjamin Stoddert Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--31--*--<= 5.0 Prince George's--0705--Non-Traditional Program North--Algebra 1 --All Students--27--*--<= 5.0 Prince George's--0908--Surrattsville High--Algebra 1 --All Students--72--*--<= 5.0 Prince George's--1103--Gwynn Park High--Algebra 1 --All Students--41--*--<= 5.0 Prince George's--1234--Oxon Hill Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--38--*--<= 5.0 Prince George's--1314--Largo High--Algebra 1 --All Students--21--*--<= 5.0 Prince George's--1352--International High School at Largo--Algebra 1 --All Students--17--*--<= 5.0 Prince George's--1409--Duval High--Algebra 1 --All Students--112--*--<= 5.0 Prince George's--1708--Northwestern High--Algebra 1 --All Students--108--*--<= 5.0 Prince George's--1732--International High School @ Langley Park--Algebra 1 --All Students--91--*--<= 5.0 Prince George's--1806--Fairmont Heights High--Algebra 1 --All Students--37--*--<= 5.0 Prince George's--1810--Central High--Algebra 1 --All Students--14--*--<= 5.0 Prince George's--1909--Parkdale High--Algebra 1 --All Students--128--*--<= 5.0 Montgomery--0227--Ritchie Park Elementary--Algebra 1 --All Students--*--*--* Montgomery--0238--Cold Spring Elementary--Algebra 1 --All Students--*--*--* Montgomery--0239--Alternative Programs--Algebra 1 --All Students--*--*--* Montgomery--0607--Bells Mill Elementary--Algebra 1 --All Students--*--*--* Prince George's--0622--Thurgood Marshall Middle School--Algebra 1 --All Students--*--*--* Prince George's--1320--G. James Gholson Middle--Algebra 1 --All Students--*--*--* Prince George's--2217--Incarcerated Youth Center (JACS)--Algebra 1 --All Students--*--*--* |
It's an issue with having so few Black students that the data is useless noise: https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/Assessments/MathPerformancev1/UALG01/U/10/3/1/15/0428 |
MCPS MS math magnet is so tiny that nothing they do affects districtwide stats. |
MCPS Algebra 1 MCAP pass rates vary from something like 5% to 95% depending on school. The phenomena of interest are not consistent across MCPS. |
| Wasn't there a compelling study years ago about kids who watched a video that made them feel good (like watching Obama succeed) vs some other video and then the first group did WAY better on the test? |
+1 Most of the kids of NASA scientists go to private school, which is the norm for most families of means in PG County. |
Not the magnets themselves. But isn't there supposed to be a consolation prize of "local enrichment" for everyone in the lottery pool who didn't get in (i.e. roughly the top 15% of kids in each middle school, regardless of their level of actual preparedness)? For the humanities side it's HIGH-- for math is it pre-algebra? |
Median incomes are not that meaningful because they reflect families whose children may not attend PGCPS. It would be more useful to compare FARMS rates. PGCPS has a much higher overall FARMS rate than MCPS, with 60% of students receiving FARMS versus 40% in MCPS. However, I don't know the rate for Black PGCPS students specifically. Per the MCPS County Summary profile, 13.5% of all students are Black students receiving FARMS and 21.5% of all students are Black. Meaning about 63% of Black students receive FARMS. https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrIjoiZWRjM2M3YWItYjdlOC00MDlmLWE2NDctYjRiMDdhZjgzMzE1IiwidCI6ImRkZjc1NWU5LWJjZDYtNGE1ZS1hNDcyLTdjMzc4YTc4YzZjNyIsImMiOjF9 |
+2 I laughed when I saw the post about how their parents must “astronauts”. I’m an MCPS teacher I’m in a position where I will watch other teachers teach. The low expectations of nearly every teacher with the exception of a very few in MCPS is tragic. It’s a culture of mediocrity. This is especially true for classrooms where the majority of the students are Hispanic and Black. I promise you the difference maker here is the PGCS teachers have more faith in their students and set higher expectations. Period. But everyone in education in Maryland outside of MCPS already knows MCPS is racist. |
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Sorry folks. It’s just a data artifact.
I found this fact: “Course sequencing changed for HS Math this year. In SY25, HS students take Geometry prior to taking Algebra 1. This has significantly impacted the total number of test takers for each course - with a significant increase for Geometry and a significant decrease for Algebra 1.” https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/pgcps/Board.nsf/files/DFMN985EAAA7/$file/April%202025%20BOE%20Work%20Session%20final.pdf |
oh so Algebra 1 proficiency rates were higher in previous years? Oh they aren't? Sorry folks, MCPS like the rest of MD is doing terrible on math instruction and it's not because of bad parenting like you all like to insist. |
I think A LOT of this is what the PP teacher mentioned about having higher expectations. In MCPS you are truly called racist or have a target on you if you dare to hold high expectations in your classes. I am a former teacher in MCPS -career changer- and I ethically could not continue. I remember getting into a literal screaming match during Covid with my STD because I refused to switch every single grade to a minimum of a C, no matter the level of effort ( or not). Granted this was middle school, but no. That STD is now an admin at a W school. |