Paused: sidewalk snow clearing

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We live on a corner and our sidewalk is on the way to a school so many kids pass by on their walk to school. Yesterday I spent 1 hour on the sidewalk and managed to clear about 10 feet of length until my back could take it no more.

I can't see any way I'll be able to get all the sidewalks in the front/side of our house cleared even by that deadline. My back and leg muscles still hurt from yesterday's attempt... and I'm in pretty good shape.

Why doesn't the county take responsibility for clearing the sidewalks, given the already take the responsibility for maintaining them otherwise (paving them and fixing cracks)?


The cost of this would be huge. There is a difference between paving and fixing cracks for each sidewalk every however many years and clearing snow from all the sidewalks within 24 hours (24 hours is the rule though the time was extended for this storm).


Yes, but fining homeowners because the County added this responsibility and made it difficult to meet does not seem fair.

It's not like a requirement you keep your grass mowed. You have weeks to get that done, and when you need it done, it's easy to accomplish or hire someone to do so.

With snow clearing, you're given 24 hours, and it's at a time when the roads may be difficult to pass, so expecting someone you hire to be able to make it over and do it would be difficult also... and everyone else would want that person's time to do such work at the same time.


Fabulous point. And County should be helping low income apartments dig out. At one building, the apartment management cleaned out the area immediately outside the front office/leasing with a F machine, BUT hasn't cleared the other walkways used by little kids, elderly, nor the sidewalks outside the apartment that are used by people getting off buses and walking home in the dark.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We live on a corner and our sidewalk is on the way to a school so many kids pass by on their walk to school. Yesterday I spent 1 hour on the sidewalk and managed to clear about 10 feet of length until my back could take it no more.

I can't see any way I'll be able to get all the sidewalks in the front/side of our house cleared even by that deadline. My back and leg muscles still hurt from yesterday's attempt... and I'm in pretty good shape.

Why doesn't the county take responsibility for clearing the sidewalks, given the already take the responsibility for maintaining them otherwise (paving them and fixing cracks)?


The cost of this would be huge. There is a difference between paving and fixing cracks for each sidewalk every however many years and clearing snow from all the sidewalks within 24 hours (24 hours is the rule though the time was extended for this storm).


Yes, but fining homeowners because the County added this responsibility and made it difficult to meet does not seem fair.

It's not like a requirement you keep your grass mowed. You have weeks to get that done, and when you need it done, it's easy to accomplish or hire someone to do so.

With snow clearing, you're given 24 hours, and it's at a time when the roads may be difficult to pass, so expecting someone you hire to be able to make it over and do it would be difficult also... and everyone else would want that person's time to do such work at the same time.


Fabulous point. And County should be helping low income apartments dig out. At one building, the apartment management cleaned out the area immediately outside the front office/leasing with a F machine, BUT hasn't cleared the other walkways used by little kids, elderly, nor the sidewalks outside the apartment that are used by people getting off buses and walking home in the dark.


The county is still digging out public land. There is no way to get to our bus stop.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How many threads do we need on this subject??

Ice is ice. Nothing going to change that fact.

Freezing temps today again ice is ice.

Grow up people and shut up


You can skip over the threads that triggers your mental issues. Take GOOD care.
Anonymous
They should have made the deadline Sunday so that sidewalks would be clear on Monday for school to open.

(They may in fact actually mean that the deadline is Sunday, and just be mentioning Monday as the first day that would be considered "too late," but the wording and coverage is all making it sound like "you have until Monday to clear your sidewalks" which is not great for school opening purposes.)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:They should have made the deadline Sunday so that sidewalks would be clear on Monday for school to open.

(They may in fact actually mean that the deadline is Sunday, and just be mentioning Monday as the first day that would be considered "too late," but the wording and coverage is all making it sound like "you have until Monday to clear your sidewalks" which is not great for school opening purposes.)


Enforcement is paused till Monday. Those clearing can continue to chip away if they can because this county is not helping it seems. If a sidewalk isn't cleared Monday, the management or owner gets notice and they have 24 hours to clear it before a fine. Wed looks like the earliest day school (district wide) can open. Will bus drivers be willing to drive in this mess???
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Because Karens are calling on their neighbors and the neighbors physically cant move the frozen tundra and moco does not have the resources for enforcement when the karens keep calling.
So the solution is, suspend it for now.


Yes, but - unless you are elderly, you could have cleared the snow. We have one neighbor on our street who hasn't yet cleared the snow, and they are the youngest couple on the street. He just didn't do it, and now it will be tough to clear.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:They should have made the deadline Sunday so that sidewalks would be clear on Monday for school to open.

(They may in fact actually mean that the deadline is Sunday, and just be mentioning Monday as the first day that would be considered "too late," but the wording and coverage is all making it sound like "you have until Monday to clear your sidewalks" which is not great for school opening purposes.)


Sorry Mother Nature doesn’t follow your schedule
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because Karens are calling on their neighbors and the neighbors physically cant move the frozen tundra and moco does not have the resources for enforcement when the karens keep calling.
So the solution is, suspend it for now.


Yes, but - unless you are elderly, you could have cleared the snow. We have one neighbor on our street who hasn't yet cleared the snow, and they are the youngest couple on the street. He just didn't do it, and now it will be tough to clear.


We can’t clear snow covered in over 3” of ice. It’s thicker than that in many spots.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because Karens are calling on their neighbors and the neighbors physically cant move the frozen tundra and moco does not have the resources for enforcement when the karens keep calling.
So the solution is, suspend it for now.


Yes, but - unless you are elderly, you could have cleared the snow. We have one neighbor on our street who hasn't yet cleared the snow, and they are the youngest couple on the street. He just didn't do it, and now it will be tough to clear.


We can’t clear snow covered in over 3” of ice. It’s thicker than that in many spots.


BS
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because Karens are calling on their neighbors and the neighbors physically cant move the frozen tundra and moco does not have the resources for enforcement when the karens keep calling.
So the solution is, suspend it for now.


Yes, but - unless you are elderly, you could have cleared the snow. We have one neighbor on our street who hasn't yet cleared the snow, and they are the youngest couple on the street. He just didn't do it, and now it will be tough to clear.


We can’t clear snow covered in over 3” of ice. It’s thicker than that in many spots.


BS


I mean the Plow walls are likely thicker than 3 inches but I would have hoped people would have attacked them by now
Anonymous
I saw a guy pouring water (assuming hot water) on the sidewalk by the McDonalds near me. Wouldn'it just refreeze again? One was pouring water and the second guy was trying to chip at the ice.

When will the county get to the sidewalks that are not in front of anyone's house?

In my neighborhood most of us cleared the sidewalks. A neighbor few houses down is out of town and I saw a crew come in on Sunday but after that nothing so their driveway and long sidewalk stretch will be iced till it melts.

Anonymous
The county desperately needs to hire out to clear sidewalks for those unable and those unwilling to
Anonymous
Why do people get so worked up if schools are open? You are allowed to keep your child at home even if the school is open. If you feel uncomfortable then say your child is ill, send a note and keep the kid home. No one cares.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why do people get so worked up if schools are open? You are allowed to keep your child at home even if the school is open. If you feel uncomfortable then say your child is ill, send a note and keep the kid home. No one cares.


Who is worked up? Everyone is pointing out how government works or in this case doesn't work.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why do people get so worked up if schools are open? You are allowed to keep your child at home even if the school is open. If you feel uncomfortable then say your child is ill, send a note and keep the kid home. No one cares.


Any class I teach that has more than like 10 kids absent will not be learning new material that day. I'm not teaching the same thing twice. If half my kids stay home because of weather, we are having a read silently day.
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